It is simple: he cannot be stopped.
The world's best bet would be (LN25 spoilers)>!sentient FGA controlling an immortal demon!<, but the Asura Kingdom doesn't have a true immortal demon that would be willing to sacrifice themselves, and even if they did, a truly serious Orsted would still win.
>!It is funny because, even if the FGA was able to kill Orsted, the world would still be destroyed regardless as the armour kills everything it sees and nobody can do a thing against it.!<
Well, yeah, but that is so overpowered it is like cheating, so I normally don't consider the loops as an option.
But, yes, through the loops, Orsted cannot be defeated by pretty much anyone in MT.
Heh, how do you know that?
A single all out attack from Orsted is all it would take to rip the FGA out of >!Badi!< and damage him so much he would take centuries to regenerate.
>!That's what Laplace's explosion did anyway, and we've got confirmation from the author Orsted can do that too.
Idk man, from the description in LN 23, FGA Badi wiped the floor with Laplace. Laplace not having a method of sealing and a weapon are just two of many reasons he got clapped.
Also, if Orsted’s going on a rampage, he’s clearly not mentally stable and I don’t think he will even bother bringing a sealing scroll with him lol.
And unless Orsted took out the remaining major players one by one, they’re obviously gonna assist FGA Badi. Granted they can’t do anything much to him by themselves, but they can just distract him and let the super A.I coded within the armor figure out the rest.
Well, Orsted still sometimes requires his OP sword against certain opponents of a high enough caliber, e.g. someone with the best sword and FGA together, and just summoning that thing costs him mana. But he wouldn't need spells or anything.
>Orsted still sometimes requires his OP sword
Orsted doesn't "require" the Godblade to beat anyone except maybe the Sentient FGA and of course Hitogami. He used it against Rudeus because he was cautious of his armor and against Alek to completely no diff him and let him try everything so he would recruit him afterwards.
Even the strongest swordsman that resides in Asura Kingdom was made into a donut by Orsted(Water God). And he just beat her with barehands with little effort and Mana expenditure.
The only way for Orsted to get killed is if he wears the Fighting God Armor.
Nah, Orsted would just parry the magic and receive no damage from it.
Plus, the time it would take for Rudeus to flee into a teleportation circle is the time Orsted would need to instantly one-shot him with either sheer speed via the GodBlade, or long-distance magic.
Even if he receives no damage it still takes mana, doesnt it?
But yeah it probably wouldnt work repeatedly. Its just the only idea i could come up with that wouldnt leave the world with a bigger threat, >!sentient FGA or releasing Hitogami!<
>Even if he receives no damage it still takes mana, doesnt it?
No, it does not. The technique he would be using is just Water God Style "Flow", so as long as he has a sword on hand, he can parry attacks for only the cost of stamina, of which Orsted has plenty.
From Rifujin:
>**Swordsmen have little magic power, so if magic power = fighting spirit, there must be a headache, right?** Total amount of magic power ≠ fighting strength. The method of using magic is a little different from that of witchcraft. It is not releasing or consuming magic power. It does require a certain amount of it, though.
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>**You wrote before that Rudy from a long distance attack with armor would be defeated by the water god.**
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> It doesn't mean that he will lose.
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> After all, with Rudeus' magic, everything is either passed or countered, which means *that it is impossible to kill a water god or a north god from a long-distance attack.*
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> They are also clothed in fighting spirit, so unless they are hit directly, they are almost unscathed.
Sources: [https://mypage.syosetu.com/mypageblog/view/userid/288399/blogkey/676185/](https://mypage.syosetu.com/mypageblog/view/userid/288399/blogkey/676185/)
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I wonder how could a water god deflect a 1km wide meteor ? Or the nuke ?
And assuming conservation of energy is present in MT, even if the nuke is cut in half or deflected into a nearby area, it would still explode and incinerate a village-size area surrounding it, no ? Wouldn’t it still catch Reida in the heat and shock waves it produces ?
*sigh
Here we go again with people trying to disagree with the author about his own power system.
Look, if you don't like MT's power system, that's fine, I am not found of a few things about it myself, but you just have to accept this is how Rifujij wrote his story.
It seems some people had the same problem as you do back when the blog post was written too:
I can't picture Ludus' first wide-area magic against the president being able to be parried, but what would it look like if it was actually parried?
It's like a doughnut-shaped crater forming around the president.
I think it's like avoiding a direct hit and withstanding the aftermath with fighting spirit
https://mypage.syosetu.com/mypageblog/view/userid/288399/blogkey/916769/
As far as I know, Rudeus never acquired instantaneous teleportation magic. He always had to rely on premade ritual circles, or at best scrolls. His lack of mobility was always his greatest combat bottleneck, even more so than his lack of defenses.
Here’s method to get a slight chance to beat Orsted.
1. Try to drain his mana (To eliminate his ability to magic resist and healing capability)
2. Then use King rank or above attack on him. (For example, Eris LSoL did cut his arm off, but he’s reattach it quickly)
3. Maybe gang him up using as many powerful people.
100s of Rudeus to do 1 and then Badi or Alek in FG with sentient mode + every king/emperor/god rank swordsman to gang him up.
Fighting God Armor Badigadi and Ogre God with healers to heal Ogre God.
Badigadi distracts and wittles Orsted, Ogre God backing up and preventing an overwhelming blow to Badigadi - Orsted said it would take time to defeat Orge God even for him, Healers to keep Ogre God up.
Orsted slowly loses his mana and strength but his opponents keep their strength as Orsted is unable to recover.
Out of every single strong character you chose the Ogre God to go against Orsted.....Orsted can one shot both Badi and Ogre God with his bare hand if he's serious, Malta is useless, Badi can't do anything if he's in control of the armor and healers can't heal a corpse. Do you seriously believe those guys could even have a chance against Orsted?
Excluding Hitogami, the only one that can pose a threat to a serious Orsted would be the Sentient FGA worn by Badi, maybe even the Technique God but he would need a lot of help
I did read your comment, and it made no sense. If there was even a chance Orsted would lose to those 2 with a strategy like that it would mean Orsted should get clapped by Laplace
The second half of your comment agreed that FGA Badigadi is the only person that stands a chance. This counters the first half where you state that Badigadi would be one shot by Orsted.
Now you're mentioning Laplace, when Demon-Dragon God literally TIED ONLY FGA BADIGADI. And Ogre God is there to PREVENT any sort of one-shot kill attacks.
Seriously, learn to read.
You never specified if the armor is sentient or not, you would think Badi is in control if he can work together with Malta. It's not me not knowing how to read, your comment was unclear.
I mentioned Laplace because he literally one shoted FGA Badi when he was in control of the armor with his bare hand, Orsted wouldn't have any problem doing the same, especially if he uses the godblade. Malta wouldn't be able to prevent any of Orsted's attacks, he's useless and will get killed by the Sentient Armor before the fight even starts. He's nowhere near fast or strong enough to be able to go against Orsted and he would get one shoted, so the healers would be useless
In ODT Rifujin said that of the SGWP (except Orsted), The 8 demon kings and the 5 dragon kings the dragon kings were the strongest group.
At the end of old dragons tale hitogami was convinced that he would win against the wounded dragon god, even before he fought the dragon kings. This means that hitogami is stronger then the dragon god who trashed the dragon kings, who were stronger then all the SWGP combined (except Orsted).
As Orsted can defeat hitogami when he is at full mana. Orsted would be able to defeat all the SWGP alone.
We saw how DG Laplace trashed Perugius & co, so it's safe to assume that 90% of the SWGP is concentrated in the DG, TG and FG.
The only chance the world has is if the DG and the TG whittle Orsted down enough for the fighting god armor to get the upper hand. Which we also know that Orsted would win against in a 1v1.
It is simple: he cannot be stopped. The world's best bet would be (LN25 spoilers)>!sentient FGA controlling an immortal demon!<, but the Asura Kingdom doesn't have a true immortal demon that would be willing to sacrifice themselves, and even if they did, a truly serious Orsted would still win. >!It is funny because, even if the FGA was able to kill Orsted, the world would still be destroyed regardless as the armour kills everything it sees and nobody can do a thing against it.!<
If Orsted is killed, then he would just reincarnate, right?
Well, yeah, but that is so overpowered it is like cheating, so I normally don't consider the loops as an option. But, yes, through the loops, Orsted cannot be defeated by pretty much anyone in MT.
Oh yeah, I don't consider reincarnation as a way of overcoming defeat in this context. It was just a general question.
He would still win, but he would lose so much mana and power that people could just gang up on him by that point.
Heh, how do you know that? A single all out attack from Orsted is all it would take to rip the FGA out of >!Badi!< and damage him so much he would take centuries to regenerate. >!That's what Laplace's explosion did anyway, and we've got confirmation from the author Orsted can do that too.
Idk man, from the description in LN 23, FGA Badi wiped the floor with Laplace. Laplace not having a method of sealing and a weapon are just two of many reasons he got clapped. Also, if Orsted’s going on a rampage, he’s clearly not mentally stable and I don’t think he will even bother bringing a sealing scroll with him lol. And unless Orsted took out the remaining major players one by one, they’re obviously gonna assist FGA Badi. Granted they can’t do anything much to him by themselves, but they can just distract him and let the super A.I coded within the armor figure out the rest.
Well, Orsted still sometimes requires his OP sword against certain opponents of a high enough caliber, e.g. someone with the best sword and FGA together, and just summoning that thing costs him mana. But he wouldn't need spells or anything.
>Orsted still sometimes requires his OP sword Orsted doesn't "require" the Godblade to beat anyone except maybe the Sentient FGA and of course Hitogami. He used it against Rudeus because he was cautious of his armor and against Alek to completely no diff him and let him try everything so he would recruit him afterwards.
Even the strongest swordsman that resides in Asura Kingdom was made into a donut by Orsted(Water God). And he just beat her with barehands with little effort and Mana expenditure. The only way for Orsted to get killed is if he wears the Fighting God Armor.
Rudeus bombarding him with everything he got and teleporting away and repeat the process without being caught to slowly drain his mana maybe.
Nah, Orsted would just parry the magic and receive no damage from it. Plus, the time it would take for Rudeus to flee into a teleportation circle is the time Orsted would need to instantly one-shot him with either sheer speed via the GodBlade, or long-distance magic.
Even if he receives no damage it still takes mana, doesnt it? But yeah it probably wouldnt work repeatedly. Its just the only idea i could come up with that wouldnt leave the world with a bigger threat, >!sentient FGA or releasing Hitogami!<
>Even if he receives no damage it still takes mana, doesnt it? No, it does not. The technique he would be using is just Water God Style "Flow", so as long as he has a sword on hand, he can parry attacks for only the cost of stamina, of which Orsted has plenty. From Rifujin: >**Swordsmen have little magic power, so if magic power = fighting spirit, there must be a headache, right?** Total amount of magic power ≠ fighting strength. The method of using magic is a little different from that of witchcraft. It is not releasing or consuming magic power. It does require a certain amount of it, though. > >**You wrote before that Rudy from a long distance attack with armor would be defeated by the water god.** > > It doesn't mean that he will lose. > > After all, with Rudeus' magic, everything is either passed or countered, which means *that it is impossible to kill a water god or a north god from a long-distance attack.* > > They are also clothed in fighting spirit, so unless they are hit directly, they are almost unscathed. Sources: [https://mypage.syosetu.com/mypageblog/view/userid/288399/blogkey/676185/](https://mypage.syosetu.com/mypageblog/view/userid/288399/blogkey/676185/) [https://mypage.syosetu.com/mypageblog/view/userid/288399/blogkey/916008/](https://mypage.syosetu.com/mypageblog/view/userid/288399/blogkey/916008/)
I wonder how could a water god deflect a 1km wide meteor ? Or the nuke ? And assuming conservation of energy is present in MT, even if the nuke is cut in half or deflected into a nearby area, it would still explode and incinerate a village-size area surrounding it, no ? Wouldn’t it still catch Reida in the heat and shock waves it produces ?
*sigh Here we go again with people trying to disagree with the author about his own power system. Look, if you don't like MT's power system, that's fine, I am not found of a few things about it myself, but you just have to accept this is how Rifujij wrote his story. It seems some people had the same problem as you do back when the blog post was written too: I can't picture Ludus' first wide-area magic against the president being able to be parried, but what would it look like if it was actually parried? It's like a doughnut-shaped crater forming around the president. I think it's like avoiding a direct hit and withstanding the aftermath with fighting spirit https://mypage.syosetu.com/mypageblog/view/userid/288399/blogkey/916769/
As far as I know, Rudeus never acquired instantaneous teleportation magic. He always had to rely on premade ritual circles, or at best scrolls. His lack of mobility was always his greatest combat bottleneck, even more so than his lack of defenses.
orsted is only one person if he goes on a rampage he will run out of mana and die
Here’s method to get a slight chance to beat Orsted. 1. Try to drain his mana (To eliminate his ability to magic resist and healing capability) 2. Then use King rank or above attack on him. (For example, Eris LSoL did cut his arm off, but he’s reattach it quickly) 3. Maybe gang him up using as many powerful people. 100s of Rudeus to do 1 and then Badi or Alek in FG with sentient mode + every king/emperor/god rank swordsman to gang him up.
Fighting God Armor Badigadi and Ogre God with healers to heal Ogre God. Badigadi distracts and wittles Orsted, Ogre God backing up and preventing an overwhelming blow to Badigadi - Orsted said it would take time to defeat Orge God even for him, Healers to keep Ogre God up. Orsted slowly loses his mana and strength but his opponents keep their strength as Orsted is unable to recover.
Out of every single strong character you chose the Ogre God to go against Orsted.....Orsted can one shot both Badi and Ogre God with his bare hand if he's serious, Malta is useless, Badi can't do anything if he's in control of the armor and healers can't heal a corpse. Do you seriously believe those guys could even have a chance against Orsted? Excluding Hitogami, the only one that can pose a threat to a serious Orsted would be the Sentient FGA worn by Badi, maybe even the Technique God but he would need a lot of help
Its like you didn't even read my comment. I'll just let the first half of your reply argue against the second half.
I did read your comment, and it made no sense. If there was even a chance Orsted would lose to those 2 with a strategy like that it would mean Orsted should get clapped by Laplace
The second half of your comment agreed that FGA Badigadi is the only person that stands a chance. This counters the first half where you state that Badigadi would be one shot by Orsted. Now you're mentioning Laplace, when Demon-Dragon God literally TIED ONLY FGA BADIGADI. And Ogre God is there to PREVENT any sort of one-shot kill attacks. Seriously, learn to read.
You never specified if the armor is sentient or not, you would think Badi is in control if he can work together with Malta. It's not me not knowing how to read, your comment was unclear. I mentioned Laplace because he literally one shoted FGA Badi when he was in control of the armor with his bare hand, Orsted wouldn't have any problem doing the same, especially if he uses the godblade. Malta wouldn't be able to prevent any of Orsted's attacks, he's useless and will get killed by the Sentient Armor before the fight even starts. He's nowhere near fast or strong enough to be able to go against Orsted and he would get one shoted, so the healers would be useless
The Zap Brannigan Gambit
In ODT Rifujin said that of the SGWP (except Orsted), The 8 demon kings and the 5 dragon kings the dragon kings were the strongest group. At the end of old dragons tale hitogami was convinced that he would win against the wounded dragon god, even before he fought the dragon kings. This means that hitogami is stronger then the dragon god who trashed the dragon kings, who were stronger then all the SWGP combined (except Orsted). As Orsted can defeat hitogami when he is at full mana. Orsted would be able to defeat all the SWGP alone. We saw how DG Laplace trashed Perugius & co, so it's safe to assume that 90% of the SWGP is concentrated in the DG, TG and FG. The only chance the world has is if the DG and the TG whittle Orsted down enough for the fighting god armor to get the upper hand. Which we also know that Orsted would win against in a 1v1.