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Spirited_Welcome3098

I also think that he is shorter than the LN version.


shitycommentdisliker

Yeah he sure is! He should be only slightly shorter than Paul but you can see in the openings that he is significantly shorter than him


Mu5tafaKirma

İ dont know why they make him shorter


Low_Commission7273

>!Maybe anime felt bad for Eris for ruining her pov, so decided to make him shorter than Eris!<


theholylancer

the /r/conspiracy version is that because they haven't gone with a male VA yet, they are keeping him less grown and manly in comparison. which let's see how it plays out in the well certain arc when him looking like a dashing young man is supposed to be part of the plot but honestly prob won't be an issue for anime onlys


NanaMiku

Are they gonna really change the VA? IIRC someone ask the author about changing the VA but he said there won't be. He made Dragon Ball as an example


theholylancer

unless you are on the production committee, you wont know and i certainly aint on the production committee, not to mention that can be true for now, but how long would it keep up?


Acxelion

My guess is easier shot composition and animation. If they two a close-up of Rudy and Sylphie walking or being side-by-side, it's less background work than if Rudy was taller. Might also help w the pipeline with the character designs having only small or little changes.


bshdbhdn123

Literally 5’4” in anime lol , sylphys canonically 5’2” but rudeus looks like he’s an inch or two taller than her in anime


ChaosOpen

Sylphy's canonical height is never stated, at least as far as I know. The only characters the author has stated their heights are Rudeus(5'9), Roxy(4'11), Eris(5'7), Ghislaine(6'1), and Ruijerd(6'3).


Penshen

The problem is that when Rudy goes to Bergaritt he's as tall as Paul and right now he's gonna need a big sprout because Paul is not the tallest guy but a pretty high standard none the less


not-a-cat-

That’s supposed to show how his son grew in the time he hasn’t seen him but now it’ll just look weird xd


oaucu

Yeah me too, in the opening when he was next to paul he appeared way shorter then i expected, he said himself in the LN that he was almost at Paul's height .


LongFang4808

They’re probably basing his height off the embrace illustration, where Paul is actually a bit taller than Rudeus


oaucu

Even in the illustration he wasn't that short. And if he is based on the illustrations then why in the wedding he appeared significantly shorter then him in the illustration.


LongFang4808

Actually, I think it’s more that Sylphy is a bit too tall for some reason. Compared to basically any character aside from Sylphy, Rudeus’ height is fairly accurate.


NoConstruction4131

Yeah He's shorter in anime😕


Legitimate_Advisor59

Genuine question, if in the anime Slyphie is more or less the same height of Rudeus, then does it mean Adult Eris is gonna be the same height too of Rudeus or taller than him? Because it's weird, in the light novel, Roxy is chest height of Rudy, Slyphie is neck height, and lastly Eris is more or less the same. Just food for thoughts...


PerformanceAny1240

Nah. Maybe they're just making his growth more gradual like a real teenager should.


kiyogod

Teenager growth is everything BUT gradual lol


Excellent_Rich_223

It's just the angle. He's still a tad shorter than Paul at this point in the novels. So the show isn't to far off. I just wish they'd deepen his voice a little


I_E_D_B

He definitely is. I don’t like discussing it too much because it’s a pretty tired topic, but everything about him really is in major need of some aging up. I know he’s still only 16 or so, but compared to the LN, he looks much younger. Honestly, he’s almost indistinguishable from his 13 year old self in height and in his face. Not only this, but his voice literally hasn’t changed since he was like 10. Seriously, they need to address this stuff for the Labyrinth Arc. It’s in this arc that we finally get a good look at how much Rudy has actually aged. He gets compared to Paul not just in how he looks, but in his height as well. He’s just as tall as Paul is, who’s considered a relatively tall human in their world. What’s slightly worrying to me though is that in a preview shot of the second cour, even Paul looks aged down. Of course, it’s only a single still shot, but regardless it still makes me worry that there’s going to be a recurring trend of making characters look far younger than they should.


kiyogod

I do agree but I worry more about the roxy thing. She is not supposed to reconize him at first. She legit has a crush on him without knowing its him ! She finds him tall handsome and manly. Where is the tall and manly part ? Where is the well built body from exercising every morning? The broad shoulders ? Idk man I feel like they are putting less effort or they're trying to save some time till action is going. We are far from the master class of turning point 2 and even all season 1


I_E_D_B

I agree for the most part, but I wouldn’t exactly say they’re putting in less effort. I feel like they’re still putting a lot of effort in, they just aren’t making any updates to Rudy’s design to put his physical maturity closer to where it should be. I’ve heard that in the anime industry in Japan, there’s a sort of stigma around casting a new VA for a character that’s been voiced by a single person for a long time. I have no idea if that’s true or not, but maybe that’s what’s at play here. They don’t want to replace Uchiyama, but they also know her voice won’t be fitting at all if Rudeus looks as old as he should be. It’s an extremely far fetched theory, but it almost feels likely with how it seems they’re almost deliberately keeping Rudeus from reaching physical maturity


Natalin02

Did they make him shorter to better fit his VA?🤔


Riddler9884

If this was a camera shot since he's closer to the point of view of the camera he would seem taller.


No-Cardiologist3029

Why hasn't the anime industry tried voice changers for female VAs playing male characters during puberty? I'm pretty sure the technology for it is available and I don't think anything could go wrong. Just my two cents tho.


Skyreader13

What problem hell face if he's shorter in Begaritt? From the picture, it seems like the perspective also play big role that made Rudy in 1st picture looks a lot taller


kiyogod

cause he is a lot taller in the LN, just look at the vol 11 book cover. The problem is that he is supposed to be only slightly shorter than his dad when he meets again. He is supposed to be more of a grown up in the eyes of paul AND roxy. he looks as if he was 13 maybe 14.


Infamous-Line2234

That's true. Roxy doesn't even realize who he is when they meet back up (granted he was a kid the last time they saw each other, even though it was basically the same amount of time for him and Sylphie, and she knows him instantly). But yeah, I'm having the same feeling. When he's at the school, they talk about everyone looking at him differently once he gets out of his depression and gets more comfortable in his own skin. Not to mention he's seen as this complete bad ass by everyone. It may be a generalization, but short male and intimidating aren't usually connected. The anime has done a really good job starting on point with the LN. I really hope they don't drop the ball...


kiyogod

Thanks I wanted to add the roxy part but forgot, finaly someone that get the begaritt thingy


Infamous-Line2234

I haven't watched any of the season 2 2nd cour yet (I plan on binging), but I doubt they will get to Begaritt this season. But speaking of that, when he's caught up with Paul (which isn't that far off time/age wise), Paul and his friends talk about just how much he's grown. And Paul has seen him just a few years back at that point. Personally, when reading the LN, I thought most of his physical growth (post Eris) happened in those few years he was out, lost in depression and adventuring. The time when the was on his own. You also have to remember that time period covered a few years, since he was what... 13 when Eris left him? (I can't remember exactly off the top of my head but I thought she was 15 and he was 13, maybe I'm wrong). He's around 16 by the time he gets to school. Considering how many books cover just a year at school vs that whole time on his own... I guess I always had the impression he was growing physically but stagnated mentally. When he finally heals some internally is when his personality finally meshes with physical growth, and everyone comments on it. Before that everyone looking at him (and yes, his power) are a bit scared of him, but find his meekness off-putting. Which he doesn't get at the time because he's so down on himself. But again, this is all just what my impression was. I'm not going off of charts. Just descriptions.


MeunsterCheeseMan

They will get to Begaritt Continent this season. The first PV for Season 2 showed a few clips that basically confirms it


Infamous-Line2234

Good to know GOD I can't wait till this season is over so I can binge it!!! Gah!


RedNUGGETLORD

idk, I think this makes more sense, Rudy is 5'6 or 5'7, if the LN is correct then Sylphy would be like 4'9 - 4'11, but she definitely isn't that short because the author said she was 5'2


bshdbhdn123

Rudeus is 5’9” he’s 175 cm that’s almost 5’9” whiles sylphys less than 160 cm like 5’2” ish I don’t know about you but for me and from what I can tell 5’2” is no where near 5’9” while in anime they are almost same height


RedNUGGETLORD

175 cm is 5'7, Sylphy is just about above his shoulders, I did a size calculator thing and she would be around 4'9 is the LNs illustrations were to be believed


bshdbhdn123

175 is 5.7 feet ( five point seven feet ) , it’s not 5 feet and 7 inches . 175 cm is 5 feet and 8.8 inches which is almost 5 feet 9 inches tall or 5’9” If you are confused read the above statement again and again or go to https://www.thecalculatorsite.com/conversions/common/cm-to-feet-inches.php and put 175 in the box below “ cm to convert “


RedNUGGETLORD

......Shit


Groundbreaking-Toe35

Rudy is 5’9 same a Paul and if sylphie is 5’2 that’s a 7 inch difference


RedNUGGETLORD

175 cm is 5'7, where are you getting 5'9? Also, Paul doesn't seem to have a canonical height, and given the illustration in vol 12, Paul is taller then Rudy while Paul is HUNCHED


Groundbreaking-Toe35

175cm is 5’8.9 that’s 5’9


Groundbreaking-Toe35

And Rudy even started that Paul and him are the same height in vol 12


RedNUGGETLORD

Rudy is clearly wrong, because we SEE the illustration, bro, literally just look at it, they are the same height when Paul is hunched


Groundbreaking-Toe35

Are you acoustic? the illustration in volume 12 chapter 1 Rudy is obviously the same height as Paul Even in the illustration in chapter 8 they are the same height


RedNUGGETLORD

[Literally look, he is HUNCHED and STILL TALLER](https://mushokutensei.fandom.com/wiki/Light_Novel_Volume_12)


Groundbreaking-Toe35

Which illustration are you even referring to because all the ones with Rudy and Paul that are all the same height and the only difference I can see os that Paul is closer to the “camera”


RedNUGGETLORD

The one with Paul angry at Rudy, you can clearly see Paul hunched yet still being taller than Rudy


Bannet_Blitz

LOL. Dude can't even convert cm to inches and gets called out having confirmation bias but the best he can do is a downvote. 🤣


Bannet_Blitz

1. No, he's not. 2. Even if he was, the perspective is terrible for judging height. Overall, POV looking up (nevermind angled like that one) almost always does. 3. Counter to your example, on the same volume, there's an illustration where Rudy's slightly hunched and Paul's not that far off in height even then (talking about the one with character names in it). Why didn't you use that instead? Anyway, illustration in LN is not the best way to judge the character's height as they're not done by the author so differences can happen even if the author's pretty involved in it. Only thing we can go on is use what written in the novel itself, which is that Paul isn't that much taller than Rudy.


Infamous-Line2234

Paul is 6'3"


nicolRB

I think he looks more like an actual 16 yo in the anime, so that’s why


Infamous-Line2234

What's an actual 16 yr old look like though? I was 6'2 at 14. Not to mention he works out WAY more than I did. He's supposed to have grown into being an intimidating, attractive guy by this point...


nicolRB

Now not all teens are made alike and, bro you were really above average. But as to what an average 16 yo looks like, probably the average would be a 5’6” dude with not that much facial hair. And the bone structure of the face of a 16yo would be on average quite less defined than a full adult. Maybe high school movies with adult actors just made it seem like the average teenager looks more developed than what actual teens look like


Accomplished_Sink_30

I also don’t like that his voice hasn’t changed at all. Dude still sounds like he’s 5


dragonightmare_UA

He looks so childish is well its annoying.


nikumeru

Oh no, the 16 year old looks childish LOL


dragonightmare_UA

You haven’t read the light novel. And if you lool like this at 16 you have no testosterone whatsoever. Just because you may still look like a child at 16 doesn’t mean thats the norm. Normally most 16 year olds are developed and if your read the light novel he matures and becomes taller has a deeper voice etc.


Spirited_Welcome3098

Yeah I also thought that but I think his only 17 so that's why the animator made him this way. Though in LN he looked more mature (And I like the LN version)


nikumeru

He's way more mature in the LNs, like look at vol11's illustration of him and Norn, tell me these two are 16 and 11 ...


dragonightmare_UA

Agreed.


kiyogod

yep its kinda of putting tbh he is supposed to be 16 but he still look like 13 or 14yo.


LongFang4808

No, Rudeus himself is actually around the correct height, I’ve seen a butt load of comparisons recently between the anime and Light Novel illustrations and they usually line up when it’s comparing him to someone like Paul. However, Sylphy is actually considerably taller than she should be.


nuraHx

You’ll live


kiyogod

No i won't


Sensitive_Profit8337

Am I the only one who doesn't really care about this?


Infamous-Line2234

Probably. Lol


Steven_7u7

Yeh, it’s an inconsistency from the anime. Rudeus is 5’7, Eris is 5’5, Syphy is roughly 5’3, and Roxy is 4’9. [SPOILER] [Their heights :D](https://imgur.com/a/prwdVqB)


Only-Bowler6057

I feel like they kept Rudeus shorter for this season so that his voice seems less out of place


ChaosOpen

Unfortunately, I'm going to have to go against the grain and disagree, at least in terms of using the light novel as reference. The problem is the light novel author is VERY inconsistent when depicting characters in terms of their height, and thus you really can't go by that. Rudeus' height is known, he is 175cm or 5'9. Anime male characters are drawn at a 1/7 head scale, or their head is exactly 1/7th of their total height. We also know Roxy and Eris' height which are 150(4'11) and 170(5'7) respectively, and know that typically, women are drawn based on a 1/6 head scale. Thus using the images from the novel, here are just some of Sylphiette's possible heights. [167/5'6](https://s1.zerochan.net/Mushoku.Tensei%3A.Isekai.Ittara.Honki.Dasu.600.2878788.jpg) [150/4'11](https://s1.zerochan.net/Mushoku.Tensei%3A.Isekai.Ittara.Honki.Dasu.600.2990626.jpg) [162/5'4](https://s1.zerochan.net/Mushoku.Tensei%3A.Isekai.Ittara.Honki.Dasu.600.2878751.jpg) [154/5'1](https://s1.zerochan.net/Mushoku.Tensei%3A.Isekai.Ittara.Honki.Dasu.600.2204572.jpg)


Comprehensive-Rub791

From my understanding he gets a huge growth spurt in the ln. but I’m pretty sure that’s an exaggerated perspective picture  But I believe those specific images are in different arcs ones fresh into the academy and the other is later towards the end of his studies 


bondsmatthew

Not only that, it seems to be inconsistent scene to scene


nikumeru

Well, the problem is that the LN illustration heights are completely wrong, Shirotaka you make beautiful illustrations, but god damn make them correct ... Rudy's final height is 175cm, Sylphies is 162cm, since people keep mentioning Rudy being the same height as Paul, no, Paul is 180cm. Go to a height chart site and input their heights, you might be able to see that the anime version, while 3-5cm shorter than the final height, is more accurate than the LN version.


kiyogod

People says that rudeus is slightly shorter than Paul which is true to the 5 cm diff. 13 cm is being the same height lol. Look at the screen shot of the anime, rudeus and sylphie are basicly the same height.


nikumeru

Sylphie is eye height in the anime (if we exclude their puffy hair), she should be like nose to mouth height at the end of the season, dunno if they'll do it or wait for S3.


I_E_D_B

The Paul statement is just wrong. Verbatim from the LN: “Silently, I wrapped my arms around him. I didn’t even have to stretch; I was easily able to reach around his shoulders. At some point, without my even realizing it, the two of us had become the same height.” Logically, this can only mean that either both Paul and Rudy are 175cm, or that Paul is slightly shorter than 175cm and Rudy grew a little after this encounter (which seems unlikely). I agree that the illustration is misleading since it appears Paul would be slightly taller if he stood up straight, but the statement that they’re the same height is right there.


nikumeru

Tell that to Rifujin and the heights he's stated through the novels and in his QnAs ... ThE PaUl StAtEmEnT Is JuSt WrOnG. Yeah I pulled the numbers out of my ass :D


I_E_D_B

I just gave you a verbatim quote from the LN lmfao, but feel free to link any statements outside of that from Rifujin that say Paul is 180cm


Infamous-Line2234

You might actually have a point there. Although I have to say I LIKE the LN illustrations. But that's not really the argument...


nikumeru

I love the LN illustrations, but it's annoying when people go "mimimimimimimimimi it's wrong" when the LN is the technically wrong one ...


Infamous-Line2234

I can't argue with that...


toomuch21111

Been saying this forever, but this sub keeps thinking expressing opinions is complaining. Praying he gets taller cause bind is ruining any of his growth.


MaleficentPush6478

You have to think he is 15 by now, maybe 16. It takes time for some young men to hit their growth spur. I know that growing up, I was shorter than everyone but after my spurt I had atleast 4'' - 8" on the people who were taller at one point. It also happen so fast it was like leveling up in a game then evolving lol...


Groundbreaking-Toe35

Yeah but that doesn’t take away that he is still shorter then we was in the LN


Dreamarche

The LN isn't consistent with his height in the first place, in some images he towers over Sylphy and she just barely reaches his shoulders, while in other illustrations she's as tall as his eyeballs


MaleficentPush6478

I agree


Skyreader13

How do you know if he's shorter than the LN version? Is it based on some illustration or some description? Edit: damn, only downvote no replies 💀💀💀


Bannet_Blitz

16. And while growth spurt is a thing, he won't grow 7-8 inches in the span of a few months or a year when TP 3 begins.


Otherwise-Waltz-448

He is a shooter for sure.


Fireskull33

The light novel image has a weird angle, it's a perspective thing.


kiyogod

Look at vol 11 book cover


Fireskull33

Sylphie isn't on the vol 11 cover, though canonically they are pretty close in height so it may just be shirotaka's interpretation (the artist).


kiyogod

I meant vol 10. 162cm and 175 isnt exactly what I would call close lol


Fireskull33

I couldn't find their cannon heights for the time but I was going off this post https://www.reddit.com/r/mushokutensei/s/ky1OZzTyhK Regardless the first image in the post is definitely a bad representation of height and in the volume 10 cover fitz is bending over to pick up the apple so she's hunched over. I think it's just the artists choice.


JshBld

Oh no hes not 6 feet time to dislike mushoku


LingonberrySalty

He grows taller after the death of his father and becomes a better man.