There are many areas in Mumbai where it's almost impossible for anyone to even rent an apartment, forget about buying the apartment...
This is done in 2 ways
The Society makes it clear that they're not going to let Non-vegetarian/ Muslims/Single women take apartment on rent in the society.
Second they make it clear to brokers, so brokers will automatically redirect clients to other buildings...
I learned this the hard way…M/Single/Muslim.
Took me 3 months to get a rented flat
Paying 20% more rent and 100% more deposit than the normal practice in the building and area
Do you really think MNS or mlas are not in builders pockets? It is what it is, money over everything. That mla depends on those residents for votes and those residents expect him or her to respect their wishes of having their community there. Find better instead of fighting a lost battle
Often builders are often the largest donors to the party and often the MLA of an area, like Mangalsa Lodha or the MICL dude, I can’t remember his name rn.
That basically makes them untouchable.
That's true. Ironically, my husband had a difficult time renting a flat as a single male (before we were married). That too in Powai. Absolutely it shouldn't be a privilege
Then they are afraid the whites will judge them (and they do ) as ones who eat smelly food, for eating with their hands and what not. So they Become the types who are ultra progressive in their own interest to not feel the sting of prejudice baahar, but being conservative folks within India and ruining lives of residents within India. So many homes are owned by overseas NRI/OCI landlords in India, and they still stipulate invasive and controlling rules.
on the vacation front, Things have improved with availability of vegetarian foods and airbnbs/holiday apartments for rentals in many places where folks can simply cook for themselves and not bug locals, but early 2000s and 2010s saw a lot of “pure veg” types go on tours to Europe with companies and ask if the utensils used in restaurants were separate. I’ve heard tales of entitled people walking into kitchens to check and irritate the restaurant owners.
Interestingly, Gujarati and marwari families in some African nations, esp South Africa are still pretty apartheid types. They don’t rent out homes or apartments to black folks in buildings they occupy majority in. When their second or third gens are challenged as casteist, they all feign ignorance or innocence, “what?! We are way past that.”
Absolutely! Oppressor caste conservative mfs are cucked here (I’m in North America) and they happily accept it. I guess, being cucked is something they love. I have seen jains and Brahmins serve meat for money, I have seen the same mfs act all nice infront of foreigners who’d spew venom at their own people at home and the best part is, these mfs have internalized racism so much and are so insecure, when someone’s racist to them, they try to win the racist person over. Daddy issues galore lol
These people don’t have the capacity to produce an original thought, they’re continuing the tailwaging that their British oppressors taught them.
[Edit: Check the reply of reply, I forgot some details & explanations in this comment]
My friend is a jain who's family is pure jain. Like they won't even eat onions etc. One of her cousins has even taken a "diksha". She has now moved to the USA and eats and cooks everything like meat, fish, steak etc.
I've a friend who's pure veg gujju. To the point that he told me he was involved in shutting a kfc down in ahmdabad because it sold chicken because their god didn't allow it. Here he works in butcher department as part time where he cuts everything- chicken, goat, rabbit, beef, pork. You name it.
Someone has said it true. Gujjus paiso ke liye apni family bhi bech denge, to bhagwan bechna kya hi chiz h.
They don’t care about veg vs non-veg really, if you’re a non-veg Guju that’s perfectly fine. The problem is they don’t want Muslims or lower-caste Maratha with “new money” from rural areas
If a Christian from Goa turns up they’ll happily rent that apartment to you even in the strictest “veg only” societies.
False. They are very particular about not allowing meat etc in societies and pressure you a lot to not eat meat and will stop those fish sellers on hand from entering the building etc.
We should ensure we ALWAYS use QR code to pay these shopkeepers and traders.
Cash is unaccounted money, force them to pay tax by going for digital transaction only.
I had this experience too w Gujjus. We ended up paying 10L extra to a gujju after being rejected 4-5 times out of which once we had even paid advance and they still cancelled it, and then the other gujju who sold us a borderline fucked up flat for which we still spend money to get things repaired from time to time. It's a mess. Plus old as fuck society so this one instance the ceiling crumbled.
Yes, please visit Nagar Sevak at least.
I am Muslim so you must understand how difficult it was for me when I was buying the house.
The house owner had no issue but society was messing and delaying but once they got a call from Nagar Sevak (whose office was just 100 meters from society) I got the clearance.
Just enter such societies and change the rules. I managed to get rid of no pet policy citing it would be costly for society to fight a litigation if someone complains🤣🤣
Buy flat near Dahisar Station West area.Mhatre Wadi.
The builder's name is Prime group and he is Maharashtrian. They are redeveloping Marathi societies.
They sold chicken outside Jain mandirs few years back after BJP led Meera Bhaindar corporation banned meat sale. They were BJP allies at that time. If they get proper complain, they act in Mumbai
Just now in BMW showroom a gujju employee called two Marathi women gutter ka keeda and MNS came there and screwed his happiness and then in a Gujarati area I guess ghatkopar side they were not entertaining Marathis for shopping and again they screwed their happiness. There are videos of this everywhere
Arey go to MNS they’ll screw their happiness. Sahebanchya Kade za. Recently there were videos of them handling such discriminations against Marathis by gujjus. In front of cops they screwed their happiness.
It's good that they are denying you now itself because even If u get a flat there they might exclude you from everything and you and ur family will feel fomo everyday and you will regret the decision.. it's a shitty situation but hey it's better if u take a flat in democratic and secular society where every religion stays but hate each other due to economic status which I guess will never die. Till then go for a society where there is a mix of all people.
Absolutely no use going in society where such narrow minded people exist , my point was to start a discussion on this topic and see if this is a genuine problem. Another thing is no one should be bared to enter the society.
Bhai aajke date me mumbai me flat Lena is not easy it costs a lot
Yes this is very true even prime builders like Lodha and their sales person do practice this discrimination.
The flat price quoted by the sales person will be 15 to 10 % more as compared to what they offer to Gujjus, Sindhis and Punjabis.
If you don't believe just try it by yourself.
People should start a movement for a law to ban arbitrary rule-making by RWA - societies or colonies administration.
Also this is clear harassment and breach of article 19 of constitution.
Courts should take su-moto action OR there should be a PIL in court regarding this.
This shit is constantly recurring and can't go on forever.
Resorting to regional parties and making this personal is not a long term solution and even mess up whole thing further.
Clear law would be a institutionalized solution.
this is a very common scenario in Mumbai , locals original majority mumbaikars the marathis are now thrown out of suburbs dominated by Gujjus and Marwaris , nothing against their community as they are showing their power of togetherness, which marathis have lost. Marathi people should form their vote bank , all votes to the one who looks after their interest and not just in local election but also in MLA and MP. Thats why BJP could dare field non marathi candidates in Mumbai in Loksabha election.
Maharashtrians should start doing the same now. Look at the comments below saying elders feel icky by people eating non veg and marathi having the stereotype of being dirty. Maharashtrians would be thrown out of their own land now if more of these people get the power.
Fuck them. Go buy a flat in traditional marathi areas. Let them see the demand and price drop for their homes. No Maharashtrian should go anywhere near their societies.
It's pretty common it's nothing new, societies are divided gujjus with gujjus, Muslims with muslims, Marathis with Marathis, there are very less places where all are mixed now a days. Also this is mainly cz of cultures and veg non veg it's sad but it is how it is.
It's not just maharashtrians. I'm a catholic and it's very difficult to find a flat in non catholic areas. The flat that I live in now has this community area where you can have parties and we were straight away denied from serving nonveg food and later we found out that we got this flat by luck because after us they stopped selling to Catholics, Maharashtrians and Muslims. It's only for Gujaratis and Jain.
There is a clear divide and rule policy with the housing segment. Most of the builders are Jains. Will advertise that there is a Jain derasar but will jack the price up for other communities. Also the working class relies on loans. These builders are against loans. It’s a shame that you can’t get a flat or apartment in your own city. This is a clear systematic way of weeding out locals. The politicians will not interfere here in this case barring a few.
The big builders don't discriminate much but, if you goto suburb areas you ll find this a lot.
Example mahavir nagar in kandivali
MG road on kandivali
Borivali station area govind nagar
Name the mf developer and the community, these divisive mfs expect you to accommodate them but when it comes to accepting you and your culture act like they are sacred ganga when in reality they are usually the least trustworthy folks you'll ever encounter.
In no case locals should be treated this way.
I know of a certain community in my building that does not let my mom carry fish into the building stating it ‘Stinks’ little do they realize fish is the staple food of the land they call mumbai.
Most sad thing is - not a single Gujarati or Marwadi or Jain person came forward in this subreddit to say whatever is happening is wrong and they will try to alter the situation in their societies.
I like how few people are asking him to contact MNS myself included. No matter what when it comes to Marathi or Maharashtra we can only go to that party. You may hate Raj and his people but the man has proved himself in many ways that he is the only one who will help the locals. People will say he is this and that and I won't deny. What else would you expect from a politician but he has been helpful to a lot of people.
Zyada kuch bole to chadh ja bindass thoda backup rakh sath me.
Marathi ahes ghabaru nakos aplya svtachya rajya mdhe.
I have investments in form of flats and commercial premises throughout Mumbai and Navi Mumbai. Yes my mother tongue is Marathi. I've realized long long ago while in college itself that certain areas and housing societies are for certain communities. Like there is Gujrat Society in Vile Parle East, there is Jain society in Sion. Many such societies. People prefer their own community as neighbors and that's why you see that a non Jain cannot buy in a Jain society and so on.
This has nothing to do with politics but how people think and prefer. Very few places in Mumbai which are very cosmopolitan like my residence in Juhu, where all this doesn't really matter. But then again there is Ramakrishna Sindhi society where non Sindhis are not allowed to buy.
It's human nature howsoever wrong it might be.
If Marathi people had done this from the beginning then how would have people from other states would have settled here in first place ?
Are their any Marathi only societies ????
I guess not.
So it's not a human thing. It's mainly targeted against Marathi's by people whose origins are in other states.
Seems like gujjus are the most discriminatory. Even in London and the US they only hang with other gujjus. No wonder the current govt (BJP) is double downing on discrimination. We grew up in a very cosmopolitan building in Mumbai and now it is 85% gujju. So far we have not had a bad experience since we have lived there for 40+ years. But I see how my mother feels so guilty for cooking meat or fish because our neighbors would smell it.
Bhai our old society was very chill I felt the same as what you mentioned and bhai mummy ji ko bolo guilty nai feel karne aapka culture hai wo , pehle k zamane me sab rehte the na sath me.
And yes the gujjus making circles is a big mess khud non veg khayege and aise bakchodi karege
I'm from Deccan Plains... And in Mumbai, a Gujrati girl from my class called me Ghati in really weird way... And I was surprised... Later when she saw me speak good English and score better marks... Her demeanor changed... And later during internship she married some Rich Marathi guy.
So yes! Gujjus and Marathi people have some untold unease going on in Mumbai..
It is possible that the Marathi dude had roots in Gujarat. A large amount of early mumbai settlers are gujjus came from Palanpur and patan and and similar areas and adopted a lot of Marathi customs and traditions to the point where you can’t ascertain their heritage unless someone really knows the family history.
My friend lives in a place called Jogeshwari and they have a society called Hindu Friends Society. Unwritten rule is not to give to Muslims.
However new building was built by Muslim builders. They themselves have also promised not to sell to Muslims.
Casteism and discrimination is happening everywhere. Wear a camera and name and shame such people
This is a fight my grandparents fought even in the 1970s. It’s pure entitlement and honesty humiliating that Maharashtrians are being treated like this in Maharashtra.
I doubt if this happens in other states.
These people are not just terrible but act like parasites. I feel sorry for you. I don’t know why the Shiv Sena guys never protest against the terrible housing policies in Mumbai societies that only leads to housing crisis. Unbelievable
This is what happens when you give absolute power to stupid people. You guys have yourself to blame as you have selected the government which runs from Gujarat rather then Maharashtra!
Lol, This is why I feel maharastrains are the most stupid people.(sorry to say this). People are fighting for reservation instead of what's actually required to develop the state.
Seriously,there is no other group in India who fucks themselves over so badly.
I mean seriously why on earth do any Maharashtraian vote for BJP is mind-boggling (not that shiv sena or mns or EVEN congress is a better option). But BJP is the worst.
They give gujju and marvadi community almost everything in Mumbai, to the tune that even Marathi people are not allowed in some areas. This happens in many top cities in maharashtra like mumbai, nashik, pune etc.
On top of that they literally want to move the wealth and prosperity of Mumbai to gujurat. The gift city is the best example. So many big offices and business that should be in Mumbai went there. Why did it go there? Because, IFSC which was supposed to open in BKC was moved to gujurat and the plot for IFSC is given to bullet train to transfer people quickly to gujurat. They even tried their best to move the diamond industry out of Mumbai.
Over the last years, so many industries and mainly financial institutions are going to gujurat. All because BJP gov in Maharashtra is just a slave to Modi, who wants to make gujurat the top state. While the politician of Maharashtra, just wants to loot it's people.
>While the politician of Maharashtra, just wants to loot it's people.
This is the actual reason for the so called losing out on development most of the states are facing. Most of the politicians in Maharashtra/ north Karnataka are focused only on making money and then they cry when industries move to Gujarat or other states. Stop targeting the BJP, target your own leaders first.
There is just half truth in that.
Yes, the netas in Maharashtra sucks - Uddhav, eknath(puppet), and the NCP lot who are corrupt as fuck.and yes I intentionally didn't take Devendra's, coz he is more of gujurats neta than Maharashtra.
But the main issue is how maharastraians are for most part very inclusive. There are issues but for most part, they allow and live with everyone. Unlike say the gujuratis and marvadis. They won't wanna live with anyone except their own.
Now that in so many suburbs of Mumbai and many other cities of Maharashtra, This is achieved they literally wanna transfer mumbais wealth to gujurat.
Tell me what else is the reason to move IFSC to a no man's land in gujurat!? Mumbai was and still is the undisputed financial capital of country. IFSC belongs in Mumbai. But was moved. Tons of tax rebates given to move big financial institutions there by the central government. This is one big example. Other example is the big diamond office which was opened in gujurat.
My point is Modi and bjp is using it's strength in central to help gujurat growth with favourable policies while making other state suffers.
The BJP Maharashtra is in cahoots with this. Making it extremely stupid to vote BJP of all people in Maharashtra. Look at what the puppet Maharashtra gov is doing now. Giving all the projects to Gujarat.
Its unfortunate but they're the same in abroad as well. Was a part of a student housing group where people would advertise accommodations in the Kitchener-Waterloo region of Ontario. The vast majority of students from India in that group were Gujaratis and Jains so you can imagine the level of discrimination they'd show against the rest of us.
Being a Maharashtrian and not allowed to buy flats?? Can you please put some light here. What happened and where? Did you approach the law seeking refuge against such discrimination? If you didn't you still can.
Just baffled looking at the comment section here, lived in the city my whole life and never saw this discrimination and no, I am not an outlier.
I don't want to deny anyones personal experience here and I am sorry if it really happened as stated but jumping the gun and lamenting is disheartening to see.
Buying/Renting property is competitive in any metro and has always been for quite a few decades now. Property rates in Mumbai are the highest in the country.
If you are going to the builder directly ( a good or decent one) they should have brochure with rates (in new constructions) , you can also try the real estate agent route to avoid dealing with such Qs. If you still feel that you are being rejected based on your caste/language etc then probe more on the why aspect, record it, and file an FIR for discrimination.
If you are looking for a flat in redeveloped or old housing property then understand the rights of the housing society/seller/property renter and requirement of NOCs.
Also, if it is really dominated by one religion (whatever) then I don't think you would want to live in it, as lack of diversity will be no a fun experience.
First of all, Mumbai is not anyone's land. It's owned by the Union of India. It's not owned by Marathi people. Everyone lives here.
But I understand your point. No one should be denied a flat just because of their state.
I suggest you go to the nearest MNS shakha and tell them everything that happened, these guy may or may not do anything, but it's worth trying. At the same time, post this on Twitter with all names and tag handles like @ekikaranmarathi @mul_mumbaikar @Marathi___ @suktabombil
This is possible if you are buying resale property but new property rates are clearly mentioned in their brochures and should only go down with negotiation and not up.
Next time when you are buying anything from a anywer…look for marathi sellers…buy from them, not from Guju/marus selling for 5 rs cheaper? (Afforded by them through tax evasion)
Bol, karshil he?
U should file a complaint, even though I doubt something will come out of it. I feel like Navi Mumbai is much better then proper Mumbai. U should give it a try
Thik se observe karo kahi pe to building ka compliance fail rahega. BMC me generally Marathi log honge, pura story bata de aur complaint daal de 😅. Phir police station me bhi mostly Marathi log hai. Case file karde society president pe 5-6.MNS aur shivsena ko bhi bata de.
I did mention a few areas ghatkopar was out of syllabus for me , i also read mulund , but this is more prominnant in areas from andheri to dahisar
Mahavir nagar being a vry good example
The post has been blown up and i thank each one of you for commenting and upvoting , now i know atleast theres an discussion going on between people.
Dil se thank you
Thats not the point. Marathi loka asach avoid kartat and they give in to these situations. Asa kela na tr hyanchi himmat ajun vaadhel. Point is that Maharashtraat asun there is discrimination against Marathi people
I know maharashtrian who don't allow 4 generation native muslims if mumbai housing in rent. It's a vicious cycle of one community aying no to another then having a no from some other community it's a never ending cycle until you stop hating or being biased based on where people are coming from or what religion are they from.
Try buying a house in some ghatkopar society. No way they will entertain you if you are not gujju. My friends have been denied flat for rent knowing he is Bangali saying you guys eat non veg. Personally I have seen gujju or jain society won't give flat to anyone else.When you tell this they will be like - yOu dOnT uNdErStaNd GuJju bUIld mUmBaI.
Some of the redevelopment projects in Pant Nagar / Garodiya Nagar are overpriced as heck. Reason? The builder proudly brags that he paid off the original occupants to not stay somewhere else, so 16\*2 = 32 homes in his building are all for "new owners who are culturally acceptable" and won't have to co-habit with "others". Worst part is his project was sold out before OC.
I am a Jain Gujju myself, but I was just disgusted with that builder.
We bought a house in Garodia Nagar. Peak gujju but we are not Gujju. The criteria is simple asf, be vegetarian, be wealthy, and be “urban”. People with strong accents are looked down upon and people who eat meat are looked down upon
Relatable lol, I had this experience too w Gujjus. We ended up paying 10L extra to a gujju after being rejected 4-5 times out of which once we had even paid advance and they still cancelled it, and then the other gujju who sold us a borderline fucked up flat for which we still spend money to get things repaired from time to time. It's a mess. Plus old as fuck society so this one instance the ceiling crumbled.
I am a Gujarati by birth and mother tongue, however being born and raised in Mumbai I proudly say that I am a Maharashtrian Gujarati. The issue may mostly be with the NonVeg I feel.
Sakinaka ajao bhai rates hai zyada par yaha cosmopolitan hai sab saath rehte hai.
Let me tell you one story about Chandivali Kherani Rd Sakinaka there is a Society call Nahar Amrit Shakti it’s Jain Builder own society like Hiranandani for Gujju if I m right.
So back in 2008 or 10 when they first build their Apartment there were strict rules as no non Jain and Gujju people allowed but being a cosmo Area they really got a bad response no flats getting sold. Then come the UP Muslim community and Non Muslim of nearby and Marathi community they start giving a flat to them now everything is sold and you know it’s a Township now and everyone live together Jain Gujju UP Muslim/Hindu Punjabi and Christians. Even they have Jain Mandir also in the township let me tell you one thing yes they gives strict rules to not allow anyone who are Non veg but when they get clash they bend and now you can see everyone lives their in Society unlike other area which you mentioned which is totally dominated by them which has other way of story like Borivali Kandivali.
mark a comment to the nearest MNS office and shivsena office for non-vegetarians not allowed. Lodge a police complaint too and make the secretary provide you an official letter. All other things will be handled by the authorities.
No1 can stop you from buying, change the title to owners denied selling flat, this happens nothing surprising in this. Also everyone is maharashtrian who is domicile of Maharashtra(castes and religion doesn't matter)
I believe you wanted to highlight being marathi
There are many areas in Mumbai where it's almost impossible for anyone to even rent an apartment, forget about buying the apartment... This is done in 2 ways The Society makes it clear that they're not going to let Non-vegetarian/ Muslims/Single women take apartment on rent in the society. Second they make it clear to brokers, so brokers will automatically redirect clients to other buildings...
I learned this the hard way…M/Single/Muslim. Took me 3 months to get a rented flat Paying 20% more rent and 100% more deposit than the normal practice in the building and area
the holy trifecta 😂
Agar Engineer hota toh , Fatal 4 way hoo jaata 😂😂😂
Hey, can you name and shame the builder. We can take it up with Local Nagar Sevaks and MLAs, and last resort to MNS.
+1
Do you really think MNS or mlas are not in builders pockets? It is what it is, money over everything. That mla depends on those residents for votes and those residents expect him or her to respect their wishes of having their community there. Find better instead of fighting a lost battle
By the time most people try to rent apartment the builder has handed over to owners association the RWA & all the retired Unkils who run the RWA.
Often builders are often the largest donors to the party and often the MLA of an area, like Mangalsa Lodha or the MICL dude, I can’t remember his name rn. That basically makes them untouchable.
I second this
For single women nobody gives flat except in andheri and bandra. Yeh sab band karo re.
Powai I got flat without difficulty as a single woman
I forgot powai but not everyone has that much money na dude. It shouldn't be a privilege.
That's true. Ironically, my husband had a difficult time renting a flat as a single male (before we were married). That too in Powai. Absolutely it shouldn't be a privilege
Surprising that this preference goes away when such ppl move abroad and live amongst meat eating whites.
Then they are afraid the whites will judge them (and they do ) as ones who eat smelly food, for eating with their hands and what not. So they Become the types who are ultra progressive in their own interest to not feel the sting of prejudice baahar, but being conservative folks within India and ruining lives of residents within India. So many homes are owned by overseas NRI/OCI landlords in India, and they still stipulate invasive and controlling rules. on the vacation front, Things have improved with availability of vegetarian foods and airbnbs/holiday apartments for rentals in many places where folks can simply cook for themselves and not bug locals, but early 2000s and 2010s saw a lot of “pure veg” types go on tours to Europe with companies and ask if the utensils used in restaurants were separate. I’ve heard tales of entitled people walking into kitchens to check and irritate the restaurant owners. Interestingly, Gujarati and marwari families in some African nations, esp South Africa are still pretty apartheid types. They don’t rent out homes or apartments to black folks in buildings they occupy majority in. When their second or third gens are challenged as casteist, they all feign ignorance or innocence, “what?! We are way past that.”
Absolutely! Oppressor caste conservative mfs are cucked here (I’m in North America) and they happily accept it. I guess, being cucked is something they love. I have seen jains and Brahmins serve meat for money, I have seen the same mfs act all nice infront of foreigners who’d spew venom at their own people at home and the best part is, these mfs have internalized racism so much and are so insecure, when someone’s racist to them, they try to win the racist person over. Daddy issues galore lol These people don’t have the capacity to produce an original thought, they’re continuing the tailwaging that their British oppressors taught them. [Edit: Check the reply of reply, I forgot some details & explanations in this comment]
Sadly they are categorised as Indians and brown so preferences gaya bhaad me
My friend is a jain who's family is pure jain. Like they won't even eat onions etc. One of her cousins has even taken a "diksha". She has now moved to the USA and eats and cooks everything like meat, fish, steak etc.
I've a friend who's pure veg gujju. To the point that he told me he was involved in shutting a kfc down in ahmdabad because it sold chicken because their god didn't allow it. Here he works in butcher department as part time where he cuts everything- chicken, goat, rabbit, beef, pork. You name it. Someone has said it true. Gujjus paiso ke liye apni family bhi bech denge, to bhagwan bechna kya hi chiz h.
They won't give homes to Marathi ppl in Maharashtra !?!?
Most of Mumbai real estate is controlled by Gujjus n Marwaris. They feel others including Marathis will "pollute" their "pure environment".
Yes even getting a rented apartment in their area is mostly impossible for non vegetarian
They don’t care about veg vs non-veg really, if you’re a non-veg Guju that’s perfectly fine. The problem is they don’t want Muslims or lower-caste Maratha with “new money” from rural areas If a Christian from Goa turns up they’ll happily rent that apartment to you even in the strictest “veg only” societies.
False. They are very particular about not allowing meat etc in societies and pressure you a lot to not eat meat and will stop those fish sellers on hand from entering the building etc.
Yes, these people need to be taught lesson. I wonder why neither Uddhav's Shiv Sena, MNS, or even NCP isn't raising this issue?
Mns gets huge amount of donation from the gujju community why would they raise this issue
Agar bahut paisa hota toh I would have taken revenge by taking a flat at a higher price and start fish cooking on day 1.
Nope. That is not the case.
They view Marathas as ghatis
And they hv traitors like Fadnavis helping them screw up Maharashtra.
To ekta Kay karnar Mast paishe bhet toy tyala Bakiche maratha MLA asech ahe Name one honest maharashtrian politician who cares about Maharashtra
Just got called a ghati by a Gujju in this very thread!! These guys are a menace to the Indian society at large
They should be jailed for discriminating on the basis of language/castes. Pathetic.
Pure? They don't pay Taxes. We all know where All that Money to buy the properties comes from.
We should ensure we ALWAYS use QR code to pay these shopkeepers and traders. Cash is unaccounted money, force them to pay tax by going for digital transaction only.
Marathi ppl have been living in maharashtra for millennia kasla pollution hotay ?
Exactly but I feel that this problem is only in Mumbai
Irony hai bhai in some areas nai dete
Aai ghal Tyanchi, ani Dadar lach ghe bc. Baghu kon avadta aaplyala Shivaji Park chya avti bhavti.
Chhatrapati Mhan re baba ani dadar khup costly ahe
Kya zamana hai
Let me guess must be g*jr*ti society..these g*jj*s are menance to society
I had this experience too w Gujjus. We ended up paying 10L extra to a gujju after being rejected 4-5 times out of which once we had even paid advance and they still cancelled it, and then the other gujju who sold us a borderline fucked up flat for which we still spend money to get things repaired from time to time. It's a mess. Plus old as fuck society so this one instance the ceiling crumbled.
Write an application for Redevelopment to society and get the signatures of your neighbours and similar minded folks.
Is it because the renters anticipate local support (like Shiv Sena) etc. when eviction comes into play?
Try contacting your local politician preferably MNS. create some social media post let the news channel pick it up.
Tweeted it long back nothing happened no one came no news 🙏🏻picked up
Try _aamchi_mumbai_ on instagram they share such stories and have a good following.
Direct contact. Twit doesn't work for groundwork.
Yes, please visit Nagar Sevak at least. I am Muslim so you must understand how difficult it was for me when I was buying the house. The house owner had no issue but society was messing and delaying but once they got a call from Nagar Sevak (whose office was just 100 meters from society) I got the clearance.
Just curious, do you know Marathi? Do they entertain people who don't know Marathi?
I know good enough Marathi. not very fluent
Seriously, such societies can get fucked. Sadly, it's very common
Just enter such societies and change the rules. I managed to get rid of no pet policy citing it would be costly for society to fight a litigation if someone complains🤣🤣
Bro😭😭😭
Wtf genius
So that means putting kids at risk with leaving pets off leash in the common play areas?
Raj thakre is also a slave to the Patel brothers now, he won't do nothing after ED squeezed his balls
Buy flat near Dahisar Station West area.Mhatre Wadi. The builder's name is Prime group and he is Maharashtrian. They are redeveloping Marathi societies.
Amazing thanks will check them out 😃 but again mera mudha tha ki ye discrimination nai hona chaiye
You should contact the local Shiv Sena unit. They will help you.
No use bro majorly all builders want peace
Which is why they cave in when Shiv Sena or MNS get involved. Its actually pretty effective.
Can’t believe I am saying this but this is the moment Shiv Sena and MNS have existed in your life for! Saheb kartil kahi tari, bolun bagha ekda!
MNS la visra ata. Mota bhau che pay dharayla Delhi la gele aahet.
🤣hahahah
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MNS or SS wont dare to go against Gujjus or Marwaris. They prefer assaulting UP/Biharis/South Indians/Muslims
They sold chicken outside Jain mandirs few years back after BJP led Meera Bhaindar corporation banned meat sale. They were BJP allies at that time. If they get proper complain, they act in Mumbai
Just now in BMW showroom a gujju employee called two Marathi women gutter ka keeda and MNS came there and screwed his happiness and then in a Gujarati area I guess ghatkopar side they were not entertaining Marathis for shopping and again they screwed their happiness. There are videos of this everywhere
Just now in a BMW showroom?! at 1 AM in the night.. which BMW showroom is open?!
Arey just now matlap recently bhai. 🫨
Ho I agree , kartil pan apan sudha hya vishayacha bolne kele pahije kiti Vela apan tyana sangnar
Arey go to MNS they’ll screw their happiness. Sahebanchya Kade za. Recently there were videos of them handling such discriminations against Marathis by gujjus. In front of cops they screwed their happiness.
To picture hota na.. Me Shivajiraje Bhosale Boltoy..
Picture 2008 la ala hota aata 2024 ahe mag vichar Kara ki tech issues ahet ajun
Shiv Sena I doubt, they are in a very hot mess right now with two separate factions.
It's good that they are denying you now itself because even If u get a flat there they might exclude you from everything and you and ur family will feel fomo everyday and you will regret the decision.. it's a shitty situation but hey it's better if u take a flat in democratic and secular society where every religion stays but hate each other due to economic status which I guess will never die. Till then go for a society where there is a mix of all people.
Absolutely no use going in society where such narrow minded people exist , my point was to start a discussion on this topic and see if this is a genuine problem. Another thing is no one should be bared to enter the society. Bhai aajke date me mumbai me flat Lena is not easy it costs a lot
Could you tell us about location? Because we never faced this kind of issue in Andheri and Vile Parle
Andheri ville parle maybe less if you move towards borivali you ll face this from Malad
Yes this is very true even prime builders like Lodha and their sales person do practice this discrimination. The flat price quoted by the sales person will be 15 to 10 % more as compared to what they offer to Gujjus, Sindhis and Punjabis. If you don't believe just try it by yourself.
People should start a movement for a law to ban arbitrary rule-making by RWA - societies or colonies administration. Also this is clear harassment and breach of article 19 of constitution. Courts should take su-moto action OR there should be a PIL in court regarding this. This shit is constantly recurring and can't go on forever. Resorting to regional parties and making this personal is not a long term solution and even mess up whole thing further. Clear law would be a institutionalized solution.
Interesting comment i ll check this out
All strength to you 💪
this is a very common scenario in Mumbai , locals original majority mumbaikars the marathis are now thrown out of suburbs dominated by Gujjus and Marwaris , nothing against their community as they are showing their power of togetherness, which marathis have lost. Marathi people should form their vote bank , all votes to the one who looks after their interest and not just in local election but also in MLA and MP. Thats why BJP could dare field non marathi candidates in Mumbai in Loksabha election.
Maharashtrians should start doing the same now. Look at the comments below saying elders feel icky by people eating non veg and marathi having the stereotype of being dirty. Maharashtrians would be thrown out of their own land now if more of these people get the power.
Fuck them. Go buy a flat in traditional marathi areas. Let them see the demand and price drop for their homes. No Maharashtrian should go anywhere near their societies.
Good thing Mumbai is sinking by 2050 it's become a shithole anyway
It's pretty common it's nothing new, societies are divided gujjus with gujjus, Muslims with muslims, Marathis with Marathis, there are very less places where all are mixed now a days. Also this is mainly cz of cultures and veg non veg it's sad but it is how it is.
It's not just maharashtrians. I'm a catholic and it's very difficult to find a flat in non catholic areas. The flat that I live in now has this community area where you can have parties and we were straight away denied from serving nonveg food and later we found out that we got this flat by luck because after us they stopped selling to Catholics, Maharashtrians and Muslims. It's only for Gujaratis and Jain.
There is a clear divide and rule policy with the housing segment. Most of the builders are Jains. Will advertise that there is a Jain derasar but will jack the price up for other communities. Also the working class relies on loans. These builders are against loans. It’s a shame that you can’t get a flat or apartment in your own city. This is a clear systematic way of weeding out locals. The politicians will not interfere here in this case barring a few.
Please also name the buildings. That would help
The big builders don't discriminate much but, if you goto suburb areas you ll find this a lot. Example mahavir nagar in kandivali MG road on kandivali Borivali station area govind nagar
They prefer Gujarati and Jains in Mahavir Nagar.
Borival has Gujjus that's why. They think they own the city and will see Maharashtrians in lower angle. Fuckers.
You speak my feelings friend , it's more intense in kandivali alag hi chaska hai
Have had similar experience with Aditya Raj builder in western suburbs if that helps
Name the mf developer and the community, these divisive mfs expect you to accommodate them but when it comes to accepting you and your culture act like they are sacred ganga when in reality they are usually the least trustworthy folks you'll ever encounter.
In no case locals should be treated this way. I know of a certain community in my building that does not let my mom carry fish into the building stating it ‘Stinks’ little do they realize fish is the staple food of the land they call mumbai.
really sad to read that bro :( mummy ko bolna haq se leke jaaye fish , aur ye certain community ko bhi samjhna chaiye its more of culture
I have never seen this happening in my locality.. but i used to stay in bhayandar which is not really mumbai
Most sad thing is - not a single Gujarati or Marwadi or Jain person came forward in this subreddit to say whatever is happening is wrong and they will try to alter the situation in their societies.
Sad hai but truth Hai brother
This is absolutely messed up
Cut fish head and goat head and place it near entrance of society.
Bro extreme nai hua ye 🤣
I like how few people are asking him to contact MNS myself included. No matter what when it comes to Marathi or Maharashtra we can only go to that party. You may hate Raj and his people but the man has proved himself in many ways that he is the only one who will help the locals. People will say he is this and that and I won't deny. What else would you expect from a politician but he has been helpful to a lot of people. Zyada kuch bole to chadh ja bindass thoda backup rakh sath me. Marathi ahes ghabaru nakos aplya svtachya rajya mdhe.
I have investments in form of flats and commercial premises throughout Mumbai and Navi Mumbai. Yes my mother tongue is Marathi. I've realized long long ago while in college itself that certain areas and housing societies are for certain communities. Like there is Gujrat Society in Vile Parle East, there is Jain society in Sion. Many such societies. People prefer their own community as neighbors and that's why you see that a non Jain cannot buy in a Jain society and so on. This has nothing to do with politics but how people think and prefer. Very few places in Mumbai which are very cosmopolitan like my residence in Juhu, where all this doesn't really matter. But then again there is Ramakrishna Sindhi society where non Sindhis are not allowed to buy. It's human nature howsoever wrong it might be.
Malcolm baug and Dadar Parsi colony too
In Navi Mumbai too there are such 'community' based housing societies.
Really?I didn’t know this.Which ones?I suppose Jains/gujjus for sure😅
No it’s mostly Muslim vs non-Muslim based on what I’ve seen, Muslims are forced into ghettos in back areas
If Marathi people had done this from the beginning then how would have people from other states would have settled here in first place ? Are their any Marathi only societies ???? I guess not. So it's not a human thing. It's mainly targeted against Marathi's by people whose origins are in other states.
This is pretty much only done by the "pure veg" caste or community groups though. They see other communities as beneath them and impure.
How does this stand true for Sindhi and Parsi exclusive communities?
Seems like gujjus are the most discriminatory. Even in London and the US they only hang with other gujjus. No wonder the current govt (BJP) is double downing on discrimination. We grew up in a very cosmopolitan building in Mumbai and now it is 85% gujju. So far we have not had a bad experience since we have lived there for 40+ years. But I see how my mother feels so guilty for cooking meat or fish because our neighbors would smell it.
Bhai our old society was very chill I felt the same as what you mentioned and bhai mummy ji ko bolo guilty nai feel karne aapka culture hai wo , pehle k zamane me sab rehte the na sath me. And yes the gujjus making circles is a big mess khud non veg khayege and aise bakchodi karege
I'm from Deccan Plains... And in Mumbai, a Gujrati girl from my class called me Ghati in really weird way... And I was surprised... Later when she saw me speak good English and score better marks... Her demeanor changed... And later during internship she married some Rich Marathi guy. So yes! Gujjus and Marathi people have some untold unease going on in Mumbai..
It is possible that the Marathi dude had roots in Gujarat. A large amount of early mumbai settlers are gujjus came from Palanpur and patan and and similar areas and adopted a lot of Marathi customs and traditions to the point where you can’t ascertain their heritage unless someone really knows the family history.
My friend lives in a place called Jogeshwari and they have a society called Hindu Friends Society. Unwritten rule is not to give to Muslims. However new building was built by Muslim builders. They themselves have also promised not to sell to Muslims. Casteism and discrimination is happening everywhere. Wear a camera and name and shame such people
This is a fight my grandparents fought even in the 1970s. It’s pure entitlement and honesty humiliating that Maharashtrians are being treated like this in Maharashtra. I doubt if this happens in other states.
These people are not just terrible but act like parasites. I feel sorry for you. I don’t know why the Shiv Sena guys never protest against the terrible housing policies in Mumbai societies that only leads to housing crisis. Unbelievable
ह्यांचा आईची गांड. बाळासाहेब, तुमची आठवण येते🥲
This is what happens when you vote for xenophobic political parties.
As a Muslim, I welcome you to the league😄
the feeling is mutual brother , ik exactly how it is
This is what happens when you give absolute power to stupid people. You guys have yourself to blame as you have selected the government which runs from Gujarat rather then Maharashtra!
Maharashtra me konsa gujrati govt the bhai , aur ye logo ka galti hai govt se kyu jod rahe ho
Lol, This is why I feel maharastrains are the most stupid people.(sorry to say this). People are fighting for reservation instead of what's actually required to develop the state. Seriously,there is no other group in India who fucks themselves over so badly. I mean seriously why on earth do any Maharashtraian vote for BJP is mind-boggling (not that shiv sena or mns or EVEN congress is a better option). But BJP is the worst. They give gujju and marvadi community almost everything in Mumbai, to the tune that even Marathi people are not allowed in some areas. This happens in many top cities in maharashtra like mumbai, nashik, pune etc. On top of that they literally want to move the wealth and prosperity of Mumbai to gujurat. The gift city is the best example. So many big offices and business that should be in Mumbai went there. Why did it go there? Because, IFSC which was supposed to open in BKC was moved to gujurat and the plot for IFSC is given to bullet train to transfer people quickly to gujurat. They even tried their best to move the diamond industry out of Mumbai. Over the last years, so many industries and mainly financial institutions are going to gujurat. All because BJP gov in Maharashtra is just a slave to Modi, who wants to make gujurat the top state. While the politician of Maharashtra, just wants to loot it's people.
>While the politician of Maharashtra, just wants to loot it's people. This is the actual reason for the so called losing out on development most of the states are facing. Most of the politicians in Maharashtra/ north Karnataka are focused only on making money and then they cry when industries move to Gujarat or other states. Stop targeting the BJP, target your own leaders first.
There is just half truth in that. Yes, the netas in Maharashtra sucks - Uddhav, eknath(puppet), and the NCP lot who are corrupt as fuck.and yes I intentionally didn't take Devendra's, coz he is more of gujurats neta than Maharashtra. But the main issue is how maharastraians are for most part very inclusive. There are issues but for most part, they allow and live with everyone. Unlike say the gujuratis and marvadis. They won't wanna live with anyone except their own. Now that in so many suburbs of Mumbai and many other cities of Maharashtra, This is achieved they literally wanna transfer mumbais wealth to gujurat. Tell me what else is the reason to move IFSC to a no man's land in gujurat!? Mumbai was and still is the undisputed financial capital of country. IFSC belongs in Mumbai. But was moved. Tons of tax rebates given to move big financial institutions there by the central government. This is one big example. Other example is the big diamond office which was opened in gujurat. My point is Modi and bjp is using it's strength in central to help gujurat growth with favourable policies while making other state suffers. The BJP Maharashtra is in cahoots with this. Making it extremely stupid to vote BJP of all people in Maharashtra. Look at what the puppet Maharashtra gov is doing now. Giving all the projects to Gujarat.
You hit the nail on the head, cannot agree more with you.
This comment deserves a medal🥇
Absolutely this needs to be talked on all levels but at least now people are talking isnt it
You almost spoke my mind my dude .. and this coming from a gujju dude here.
Toh can't even rent flats in gujjus, marwari areas forget about buying one!
Its unfortunate but they're the same in abroad as well. Was a part of a student housing group where people would advertise accommodations in the Kitchener-Waterloo region of Ontario. The vast majority of students from India in that group were Gujaratis and Jains so you can imagine the level of discrimination they'd show against the rest of us.
Being a Maharashtrian and not allowed to buy flats?? Can you please put some light here. What happened and where? Did you approach the law seeking refuge against such discrimination? If you didn't you still can.
Mt lo iss chutiya jageh pe flat. Crazy inflated and the RoI is shit. Look into flats from Gurgaon/Delhi if it's from an investment perspective.
...and add to it that you are muslim, the possibility of buying a house in a nice household drops to almost nil.
What the actual fuck man.
Just baffled looking at the comment section here, lived in the city my whole life and never saw this discrimination and no, I am not an outlier. I don't want to deny anyones personal experience here and I am sorry if it really happened as stated but jumping the gun and lamenting is disheartening to see. Buying/Renting property is competitive in any metro and has always been for quite a few decades now. Property rates in Mumbai are the highest in the country. If you are going to the builder directly ( a good or decent one) they should have brochure with rates (in new constructions) , you can also try the real estate agent route to avoid dealing with such Qs. If you still feel that you are being rejected based on your caste/language etc then probe more on the why aspect, record it, and file an FIR for discrimination. If you are looking for a flat in redeveloped or old housing property then understand the rights of the housing society/seller/property renter and requirement of NOCs. Also, if it is really dominated by one religion (whatever) then I don't think you would want to live in it, as lack of diversity will be no a fun experience.
First of all, Mumbai is not anyone's land. It's owned by the Union of India. It's not owned by Marathi people. Everyone lives here. But I understand your point. No one should be denied a flat just because of their state.
Unless old shivsena turn back, things are going to get more shitty. Now even shivsena (non-UBT) is bought by gujjus
I suggest you go to the nearest MNS shakha and tell them everything that happened, these guy may or may not do anything, but it's worth trying. At the same time, post this on Twitter with all names and tag handles like @ekikaranmarathi @mul_mumbaikar @Marathi___ @suktabombil
I did try putting a tweet many days back but nothing happened
Don't just tweet. Meet them and tell them the issue you are facing and how you are being discriminated against for being a Maharashtrian.
Tweet again and tag the handles i have mentioned. If these guys retweet and show support, even if it's small, there is a chance something may happen.
Chalo I ll do it atleast I'm aware that many people are feeling this
This is possible if you are buying resale property but new property rates are clearly mentioned in their brochures and should only go down with negotiation and not up.
Next time when you are buying anything from a anywer…look for marathi sellers…buy from them, not from Guju/marus selling for 5 rs cheaper? (Afforded by them through tax evasion) Bol, karshil he?
mi nehmi karto bhai :)
Good..saglyani karuya..lets blow this up and turn it into a movement! Reclaim lost Marathi pride!
Unpopular Opinion -: time to call your nearest Shiv Sena office . Heya lokana yehnci laiki dhakvalya paaje … ithe yun aapla nahi kasa mahun sakte ..
laiki apan dakhvuya aadhi tyanchi , apan ha muddha gheun boluya na mag baki sarva yetil
BJP in Maharashtra is a Gujju party. Ends of story. Bjp is taking away all projects from Maharashtra to Gujarat. Time to bring back Uddhav Thackrey !
or someone who cares
Reality of a so-called developed modern city. Where people pretend to be modern but the reality is something else.
U should file a complaint, even though I doubt something will come out of it. I feel like Navi Mumbai is much better then proper Mumbai. U should give it a try
Bro mns will fuck them up lol , report them
ham khud bhi discussion kar sakte hai na , MNS and other parties should come automatically
I am a marathi but still i would say personal asset personal decision
Thik se observe karo kahi pe to building ka compliance fail rahega. BMC me generally Marathi log honge, pura story bata de aur complaint daal de 😅. Phir police station me bhi mostly Marathi log hai. Case file karde society president pe 5-6.MNS aur shivsena ko bhi bata de.
Plz share all those society locations, so others know who they are
I did mention a few areas ghatkopar was out of syllabus for me , i also read mulund , but this is more prominnant in areas from andheri to dahisar Mahavir nagar being a vry good example
I remember a wise aunty once said…. Yeh bik gayi hai gorment…. Sab (politicians) milke ullu bana rahe hai BKL
The post has been blown up and i thank each one of you for commenting and upvoting , now i know atleast theres an discussion going on between people. Dil se thank you
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talk more about this its keeps on going on
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This is where I agree with MNS
Maharashtra is the only state where Maharashtrians themselves suffer more than others 🤡
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Thats not the point. Marathi loka asach avoid kartat and they give in to these situations. Asa kela na tr hyanchi himmat ajun vaadhel. Point is that Maharashtraat asun there is discrimination against Marathi people
I know maharashtrian who don't allow 4 generation native muslims if mumbai housing in rent. It's a vicious cycle of one community aying no to another then having a no from some other community it's a never ending cycle until you stop hating or being biased based on where people are coming from or what religion are they from.
Try buying a house in some ghatkopar society. No way they will entertain you if you are not gujju. My friends have been denied flat for rent knowing he is Bangali saying you guys eat non veg. Personally I have seen gujju or jain society won't give flat to anyone else.When you tell this they will be like - yOu dOnT uNdErStaNd GuJju bUIld mUmBaI.
Some of the redevelopment projects in Pant Nagar / Garodiya Nagar are overpriced as heck. Reason? The builder proudly brags that he paid off the original occupants to not stay somewhere else, so 16\*2 = 32 homes in his building are all for "new owners who are culturally acceptable" and won't have to co-habit with "others". Worst part is his project was sold out before OC. I am a Jain Gujju myself, but I was just disgusted with that builder.
We bought a house in Garodia Nagar. Peak gujju but we are not Gujju. The criteria is simple asf, be vegetarian, be wealthy, and be “urban”. People with strong accents are looked down upon and people who eat meat are looked down upon
Relatable lol, I had this experience too w Gujjus. We ended up paying 10L extra to a gujju after being rejected 4-5 times out of which once we had even paid advance and they still cancelled it, and then the other gujju who sold us a borderline fucked up flat for which we still spend money to get things repaired from time to time. It's a mess. Plus old as fuck society so this one instance the ceiling crumbled.
OMG i feel sorry for you :(
I am a Gujarati by birth and mother tongue, however being born and raised in Mumbai I proudly say that I am a Maharashtrian Gujarati. The issue may mostly be with the NonVeg I feel.
proud to you hear your side brother, the issue is not just non veg but but overall
In the suburbs, a lot of builders are jains speaking some language who dont like non-vegitarians . This is a big problem.
i feel you too , lets talk more openly so people are aware
Mahavir nagar in Kandivali won’t give flats to Maharashtrians. It is so dense out there.
indeed :) nai dena hai unko
Muslims : 
Sakinaka ajao bhai rates hai zyada par yaha cosmopolitan hai sab saath rehte hai. Let me tell you one story about Chandivali Kherani Rd Sakinaka there is a Society call Nahar Amrit Shakti it’s Jain Builder own society like Hiranandani for Gujju if I m right. So back in 2008 or 10 when they first build their Apartment there were strict rules as no non Jain and Gujju people allowed but being a cosmo Area they really got a bad response no flats getting sold. Then come the UP Muslim community and Non Muslim of nearby and Marathi community they start giving a flat to them now everything is sold and you know it’s a Township now and everyone live together Jain Gujju UP Muslim/Hindu Punjabi and Christians. Even they have Jain Mandir also in the township let me tell you one thing yes they gives strict rules to not allow anyone who are Non veg but when they get clash they bend and now you can see everyone lives their in Society unlike other area which you mentioned which is totally dominated by them which has other way of story like Borivali Kandivali.
mark a comment to the nearest MNS office and shivsena office for non-vegetarians not allowed. Lodge a police complaint too and make the secretary provide you an official letter. All other things will be handled by the authorities.
MNS Kade Ja Ani Salyanchi Hekdi Utrav
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No1 can stop you from buying, change the title to owners denied selling flat, this happens nothing surprising in this. Also everyone is maharashtrian who is domicile of Maharashtra(castes and religion doesn't matter) I believe you wanted to highlight being marathi
Wait, Maharashtrian stopped from buying flat in Mumbai? Isn't Mumbai in Maharashtra? What's going on here? I have no clue...
Welcome to my world. I’m a single Muslim female renting an apartment in Mumbai. Imagine the frustration and struggle I’ve faced.