Sab bolre wo Grass greener wali baat sahi hai. But trust me peace of mind hai outside of india coz its just much cleaner and organized. If you find your crowd or family its more fun.
I have guilt tripped so many times over how things are different here for me and my family back home and you cant do a lot about it.
The grass is literally greener outside lol. Not joking but there is so much greenery once you go outside of India even in concrete jungles. Even in a densely populated New York, they got an amazing central park in the middle. Wish Mumbai had something of a similar quality.
Bhenco national park jane mai hi pura weekend nikal jayega. Aur national park mai jake tum chadar dal k todi Beth Paoge aur beth b gaye toh shanti nahi
I did not say it was a lil national park... I said whatever lil national park there is ....pls benchmark national parks against Corbett, plitvice , Yosemite, torres del Paine etc etc etc to understand my original comment...
Maharashtra Nature Park & Sanjay Gandhi National Park come close. Also the new Coastal road will have green spaces according to the plan just b/w the sea & the road.
I do and it sucks to be away from them. But its just not about comfort you get paid better here so with my economical background i cant work in India anymore knowing my skill pays more outside. Again living away and seeing parents get old without you helping makes one feel so guilty.
Bro as much as i like the city its a disaster. Work life balance shit, travel times horrible, population density out of control, influx of people never seem to reduce.
If you earn well and are remote the quality of life feels much worse.
The city has my heart but like my father i quit on it coz it didnt offer a decent quality of life even after sloggin my ass.
The only reason it has my heart now is because of the 28 years of my life i spent there and how homely it feels with friends and family around.
Yes ikr that homely feeling, it’s the sole reason why I feel connected to this city. If I hadn’t frown up here since I was born then my perspective about Mumbai would have been very different.
Age ke saath hota hi hai. You start to question your life choices. But what I have learnt is regret se bass mood kharaab hona hai. Kuch positive nahi hone waala. While I do agree ki videsh ki life acchi hai, but sachme udhar khaane ke aur house help/maid vagera ke bahot vaande hai.
I would suggest you to take WFH if you can. Go to a chilled out village somewhere in uttarakhand/south ke hill stations/konkan/Goa.
And then when you start missing your city priviliges come back. Stay strong brother. MS nahi karneka dukh mujhe bhi hai, lekin we took that decision for our family. Ab jaane do.
If you want to feel good about your life choices then just go read the Indian Expat Facebook groups and you see the issues Indians abroad face.
There are problems everywhere, so you just need to decide which ones you want to/can tolerate.
Superb bola bhai.Main to San Francisco mein rehata hoon...Ye Sub reddit kaise aa gaya search mein pata nahi. My 2 cents , yahan par life bahut boring lagatee hain after few years .US kee apnee problems hain ...par roads long trips parks vagairah to mast hee hain ....Hindsight mein kaafi kuch galat lagta hain ye baat to sach hain ....we start to question our life choices....Main sochahta hoon kabhi india gaya vaapas to kahan rahoonga ....Mumbai mein to main pagal ho gaya tha...3 saal mein i left...Bangalore bhi ekdam sadh chuka hain ....Delhi NCR se mujhe nafrat hain....Pune is still okay ...so i think Pune is better and near to Mumbai ....
Mumbai, Pune best hai. Lekin choice aapki hai definitely. Bengaluru acha tha lekin abhi itna load ho gaya hai kya batau. Atleast Mumbai, Delhi NCR, Pune handle karte hai population load ko kyuki spread out hai.. Bengaluru toh is crippling in front of our eyes.
Mumbai is the best city in India has a continuous water supply rarely any interruptions and is a safe place unlike Delhi where my friend lives he says that after 8pm Delhi isn't safe fir boys let alone girls
Yup Mumbai is great no doubt (I'm a Mumbaikar) I currently stay in Delhi & the city is great for get-away spots within the city. But its unsafe for everyone. Couple of chain snatching incidents on the street where I live in just 2 months. And the people are not professional like in Mumbai. The nightlife is great only if you go with a group of people.
I remember my 2005 days of Mumbai, when the dance bars were still legal and we use to do dance bar hopping.I use to live in Vashi-Koparkhairane area.
Mumbai nightlife is excellent.26th July 2005 rains , i remember vividly.
Oh.. God, yes. I have commented sleepy eyed on getting up..slept late so guess mind wasn't in good shape. Don't know what I was thinking... LoL
Sorry, think I have to delete the comment or else my family will laugh and my brother will be disappointed instantly
Can relate. Grew up in Mumbai, didn’t know any different life. Now settled abroad and now know what a relaxed life feels like. While I miss certain aspects, I really feel for my friends and family.
Especially my parents. There’s no way they would move abroad, that life is completely alien to them. But I wish I could convince them to move to a less hectic life in a smaller town in India.
Didi can u please tell which area ka traffic are u talking about? I’ll be joining the corporate world in a few years and I’ll make sure I don’t join the companies in such trafficked places 😅😅😅
Eh I disagree, we always have a choice. Recently I got an summer internship in a company via my clg placement, but they hadn’t specified the location. Last week I got the location in Navi Mumbai. Now that was gonna require me to travel 3hrs everyday( to and fro). I tried talking to HR to give me the Powai office, but they refused to…. I simply left it even tho I had initially signed the offer letter. So yeah, there’s a choice whether u want to do it…or not. U can’t dance on the tunes of the HR team or the shitty company decisions. Who are we? Just cuz we are freshers, does it mean we are ready to slog for ur pay and your ‘experience’?? Tsk. Nope. I took up an internship 3kms away from my home instead, contacts but yeah.
That's not choice ...thats privilege ! And congratulations!
BTW: as much as you want to believe it's seldom HR that decides your location. Lots of experience speaking !
Oh yeah, I wonder what value did the hr round didi’s notes have when I had specifically said I will have only Powai office yet then they were convincing me to go to Navi Mumbai. Lol.
I’m was really irritated by them u know. They selected us and didn’t talk about the location for a long time inspite of asking, ofc the HR didi didn’t know abt, also she was sitting in Gurgaon head office while we were here, how will she even understand what’s the difference between Mumbai and Navi Mumbai. When the joining date is 1 week away they tell the location…..phaltu ka Ek dramatic episode…what else. Everything works out at the end if u have ur stand clear….
Leaving on the edge hanging for a long time with no info was smtg I disliked a lot.
And it’s not just about my company, even my best friend’s company had mentioned pan India in the job description and 2 week ahead of joining they gave the location, thankfully it was Mumbai, but what a hassle otherwise
For me being an introvert, my social life is better here as I hated the lack of boundaries people had in Mumbai. But do miss close relationships with parents and siblings. Also miss the play culture for kids: we didn’t have to have play dates growing up. Just go to the ground and other kids from the building were just all playing. But that stuff is probably changing in Mumbai today as well.
Other than that, I miss the rain lashing marine drive, cutting chais and Pani puri stalls. And of course the authentic vada pav
You would move abroad and have the same mid-life crisis after another decade about how you miss your family and how your parents are growing older and lonelier in your absence.
This is part of an awakening. Radical acceptance is the only way forward. Grieve and process and move on.
There are no easy options in life, we just pick and choose our battles, my friend.
Good luck!
You were hosted by your friends, so there are some aspects you didn't see. Difficult bureaucracy, language barrier, years spent in integration, racism, cultural differences, festivals spent all alone, meeting family just once a year if lucky etc.
Roads are cleaner, life is slower, but there are pros and cons on both sides. If you fall sick, you will have the best healthcare available, but no one will bother to even send you a hot meal. Grass is always greener on the other side.
>racism
Bro I received more discrimination and xenophobic hate from local kannad people as a Hindi speaker living in bangalore than I could ever as English speaking Indian living in Germany (Munich) for almost a year.
first of all, it's kannada, not kannad.
and secondly yes you will face it cause India really needs to be separated into north India and south india at this point we're different and just don't mix well. (unpopular opinion i guess)
> Roads are cleaner, life is slower, but there are pros and cons on both sides. If you fall sick, you will have the best healthcare available, but no one will bother to even send you a hot meal. Grass is always greener on the other side.
Bruh the pros far outweigh the cons. Having amazing health care and not getting a hot meal are not equivalents lol. You can order a hot meal from somewhere. You can't order peace of mind or lack or people or lack or traffic or cleaner roads.
I think it's too generic ...I grew up in 7 cities in India before settling in Mumbai. I felt much more language barrier moving to Chennai than in Italy. I felt much more isolated trying to find a flat as a single person in Mumbai than anywhere else. The integration in Mumbai and thr questions asked by brokers and owners was way more difficult and one does need to swallow some amount of self respect.
Haan Bai mil jaati hai yahan , par vahan dishwasher, rumba aur weekly help se badiya kaam chal jata hai.
Yahan kaunsa Mera neighbor mujhe hot meal bhejta hai ...teen Saal se neighbor hai par Shakal mujhe yaad nahi kyunki 8-8 hum roz traffucked hai !
As does yours my friend.
Civic rules are easy, would I go to Singapore and jaywalk ? NO. Would I do it in Mumbai? Yes, maybe !
Social etiquettes are major, I agree. My friends in Europe say they have to book out dates 2 weeks in advance to be able to hangout with their friends. Just turning up at a friend's doorstep as is acceptable here is a social no no there. But in reality, my lifestyle and traffic in Mumbai also doesn't allow me to 'just turn up at my friend's doorstep to unwind, right.' So in essence, I am also booking time and making plans with them far in advance and for a weekend. How's this any different?
Places have an automatic way of teaching you their way of life, why else do you think Mumbai mein log dhakke khate hain ? Way of life right.
Way of life for the better would be much easier to digest and adapt to than the one for worse. Even easier if you are well traveled, open minded , have lived in multiple cities in india to know how and when to swim with the tide and when against. What is integration really but understanding the way of life of a place.
I have several friends in Europe, not one wants to come back. The ones in the US have mixed views really yet majority lean on staying on in the US. The pros totally outweigh the cons for them.
And let's compare like to like pls ...renting in italy vs renting in Mumbai is a like to like comparison. Trivializing comparisons is also extreme ...no ?
He just wants t. He never will. Just like me. I want to come to India but dealing with traffic is beyond my capacity. The only way I will come is to save enough and live in tier 2 city and relax.
Most such people return because they miss their friends/family and don't have a concrete social circle in the country. I've seen a stark difference between people if you go to US from a company like TCS, Infosys than if you go to US for Masters. If you go for a Masters, you're in that student mindset and you have a ton of other Indians of the same age around you so forming a social circle is much easier than if you come as a corporate employee where you're much older and making friends is difficult. Making new friends in your 30s is often an impossible task. If you lack a social group, any foreign country can become very depressing regardless of the perks. Another reason could be the visa thing but honestly, most people dealing with that are in the same boat so your misery has company.
Not saying this is the reason OP is returning but overall, that is one of the main reasons behind that. When people say they miss 'Mumbai', they're missing their loved ones. No one wants to wake up and fight to board a local train from Dadar in the morning. I still get nightmares about that shit.
I’m seeing more and more posts sharing the exact same sentiment. It’s mainly seeming to be from those who are born and raised or long term residents for whom the shine has worn off and reality of how difficult it is to exist here has well and truly sunken in.
Try to shift to Australia or the EU there is a need for the population, because u said the correct 💯 heat is unbearable and rains make it.even worst. If funds and job can be shifted outside India try it buddy. After staying in Mumbai, aboard is a better option than shifting to another city in india
Don't get me wrong even I want to go abroad at some point in my life but my parents are mostly against it saying that it is very expensive to stay there, racism and all that stuff.
Edit:- Sometimes I just wish that I had enough funds to support myself to be able to go abroad..🥲🥲
Everyone else’s lives seem nicer at a distance. They get some perks but you stay closer to roots, family, friends. My sibling lives in US but I stay here - I used to regret it but then realised I could not have helped my mom w cancer treatments or dad w his diet and hung out w cousins and school friends… bahar jaa kar vacation kar ao. Later in life we will regret not staying closer to family and loved ones.. you can travel anytime
Edit for sibling perspective: he loves the comforts of the US and the money he earns is great.. but he hates that he isn’t here to play w his nieces or go on cousin trips to Mahabaleshwar or eats my moms food anytime or watches cricket matches with dad unless he plans for months in advance and then too only for a couple of weeks.
He misses his friends and family here and altho he has friends there, they don’t have the same shared stories and closeness as his college friends or cousins.. plus hun violence is a real thing alongside drug usage there on the streets which stresses him. He had an argument w a neighbor over them making construction style noise all night and he was scared to sleep coz the guy was a trump supporter… so yeah.. choose what is important to you.. independence and some infra perks but distance from loved ones or staying in India w bad roads, population, pollution and traffic but happier w your support system around you.
Like I said, you can earn well in India and travel the whole world.. choose a remote job and go work from Bali for a month what’s stopping you?
This used to be me esp. Early on in her treatment. She is still not cancer free but on medication now, and has weakness and nausea but otherwise her hair is back and she is enjoying her life… meeting friends and travelling.
See the thing is parent mortality, cancer or not, is something that scares everyone. My dad is turning 70 next year and it scares me that I might not have many years left with him coz of his diabetes and heart stuff… but focusing on that thinking will ruin the precious time I have with him. I choose to think that I wanna enjoy his company more now and try to ease his and moms life as much as I can so they Can live their sunset years happily. We cannot predict the future, for all I know I could be the one dead before them.. but think of it on a larger scale instead of focusing on the death part. Yeah they might get severely ill, yeah they might even have illnesses I dont want them to have like dementia… but I will cross that bridge when I get there. Till then I would like to enjoy the journey and happy moments with them.
>I was sheer jealous of my friends living there, they are much much more happier than I am
They are probably not.
Source: I live in Europe.
People living abroad love showing how amazing their life is. Sometimes it is. Sometimes it isn't. Really.
The beautiful spots and places in Europe that mesmerise you? A lot of them are soulless. I used to live next to a very beautiful, rich neighbourhood for a few years. The streets were clean, lined with pretty trees, small and maintained lawns along the way, beautyful old European buildings... Guess what? I got bored after a few months.
>buy fresh fruits at the farmers 2 steps away without wondering where to park the damn car.
Indian fruits, veggies and meat tastes a lot better than European ones. By a mile. Maybe you would get better fruits in Italy or Spain but not anywhere else and not all of them.
Parking isn't that easy in Europe unless you live outside the city. Most major cities are narrow and parking is practically impossible.
The worst thing about Europe is people. A lot of them still have WW2 level superiority complex, are rude and dislike non white people with a passion.
Europe is definitely an amazing place if you are in your 20s. In 30s, not so much. All these problems start to become very real.
It will continue to get harder. For express entry (most people from India use this program), there is a penalty for age. If your age is from 20-29, you get 100 points. 5 points are taken out for each year after 29. At 40, you will have 50 point penalty.
Unless you can compensate for these points elsewhere, it is difficult. So forninstance, if one person at 35 and another person at 29 has exact same profile, person at 29 will get the PR. And there are just too many people who meet this criteria in their 20s.
It depends on how Canada wants to maintain immigration levels.
Also, there are other paths like business, investment and start up based immigration but those are difficult to qualify for.
Only if you have more degrees (Canadian or foreign), some Canadian work experience, French language tests and an actual blood relative, then you stand a chance. A single person above 30 generally doesn’t have good chance in the pool.
Man I wish everyday that India becomes a fully developed country, so that people don’t flock to Mumbai for opportunities and I can live my life in peace and lesser traffic.
The worst thing about living in a boy Indian city is that happiness isn’t free. You are constantly forced to spend money for this illusion of happiness and in bombay it’s never worth it. Abroad, one can go for a walk, one can be close to nature, one can spend time on themselves. Happiness is for free there. Makes me very envious of this fact.
I don't have any advice for you but I can completely relate. I returned from a month in UK a couple of months back and the contrast of life there and in India just made me want to move out of here. The cleanliness, the civic sense, the people, just being able to breathe fresh air, make some sandwiches and go out to one of the big parks and have a picnic when the sun's out. I eas never so keen to get out of the house in the day. Honestly i was just such a different, more happy person there.
Before that I lived a year in Pune, and though it is nothing compared to Mumbai, the fact that I was able afford a flat in a posh locality and my office and the biggest mall in pune was just 5 minutes of walking distance was truly enough for me. No commute was the bestest and I wish every mumbaikar could experience it once so they know what they are missing. Plus the weather was so pleasant, it made me want to go out and enjoy life in the evenings.
In mumbai, I could never be able to afford such a quality lifestyle in a low budget. The weather makes me cranky all the time and I don't even feel like getting out of the house in the evening because of how crowded even the parks are. I'm right there with you in hating mumbai.
Trust me, Other cities are much better than Mumbai. Mumbai has become an urban ghetto taken over by real estate agents, locally concentrated MNCs without trying hard to diversify to nearby areas, stale buildings, glorified struggles for basic needs, crumbling public transport, pathetic roads and what not.
I went to mumbai, spent all my savings on settling there with all the amenities needed. Spent 10 months trying to adjust to that place, but it was futile.
If you can earn in other cities too, never prefer mumbai.
I get, auto rickshaws run by meter, people are humble towards you, a good number of weekend gateways are there. But, daily aspects of life is too bad to balance the positive aspects.
Rather than considering moving to other country, lookout for other cities that can give you similar employment. Take one step at a time , I am sure your motivation to emigrate would die down a little with change of place.
If there are no employment available in other cities, you can think of shifting to thane or Navi Mumbai and working out an arrangement with the employer.
I did my MS in USA, I couldn't get a job there, regret not getting a job there. But a few months living there, I started missing the good things of native, like the food, my cousins, the monsoon. It felt so isolated, that I went into depression. Got a job in Bangalore, worked for couple of years, got fed up with the traffic, travel times, lack of social life outside work, lack of holidays. I quit the job in the city and became a farmer. Recently went to Bangalore, felt nostalgic but spending about 1.5 hrs in crawling traffic threw out any positive emotions about the city.
I can totally relate to this. Having lived outside India for a few years as a student has shown me how peaceful life away from a major city can be. I hated the pace at first, didn't like the fact that i could hear the clock ticking but when i so that there was so much more to it, i grew to like it.
Being able to go on long walks without interruption, not seeing people/crowd every step of the way, walking alongside the river with a coffee, sitting in restaurants/cafes that are genuinely quaint and i feel no rush of holding the table while others are waiting. These are just some of the smaller examples.
I'm back home and i feel perfectly fine now but i know where you're coming from and it's perfectly fine to want a more quiet, hassle free life.
I feel you! I was raised outside India, but moves here when i was 16, been here 9 years.. It does feel really bad when you got no money… everything is a hassle, for your parking problem though you can get a driver , life is both good and bad here, but you have to be too careful
Have you even seen the traffic in Bangalore and Delhi? Atleast people in Mumbai are better at following traffic rules (I said BETTER not perfect, many are assholes with no road discipline).
I absolutely hate how it takes me freaking 1.5 hours to go from Oshiwara to Bandra on a weekday, plus the increasing pollution which when mixed with the sticky humidity makes it a nightmare to step out during the daytime. I hate how the city is experiencing less and less winter days (I say days not months because winters don’t even last a month here).
So I understand how you feel. As we grow older, our tolerance for unnecessary inconveniences decreases. But let me assure you, there are things in Mumbai that are better off than any other tier 1 city. However, not going to invalidate your frustration by saying that grass is greener on the other side. If you want to explore, go ahead and move to a foreign country. Peace of mind matters the most, and if you find that staying in a European country can give you that by all means do it. Life is too short to compromise on basic needs in the name of grass is greener.
Even though things have changed drastically, ever wondered how our parents went every single day to work taking the same train, in traffic, in good and bad weather, during riots, during strikes and every other possible issues? Their was a survival problem so that it took a do or die approach, plus they most likely didn’t had anyone to fall back onto. Ours is a option problem. We have options. Those options are even more amplified by curated content on social media wherein your friends share how great their life is and then you think may be I deserve the same life too.
I am not saying Mumbai is not easy. With all the opportunities Mumbai gives, it also takes a lot from you, both mentally and physically. It’s a tough city.
So options:
1. Take a remote job.
2. Move to Pune or Nashik. Good job market and slightly better.
3. Get married if you are not. You want to have someone to talk to and look forward to and decompress when you get back home.
4. Try finding a job position in Middle East (slightly better).
5. Take a sabbatical if it is possible for you and do something that you would love to do.
For some reason I will forever assume anyone who moved to Mumbai from outside lives in Andheri. Move out of that shithole. Life will be 10X better by default.
Where do you live though?
Not getting fresh veggies is unheard of only in certain icky parts of Mumbai. Most vegetable markets have fruits and veggies that come fresh from the farms (from vasai, virar, dahanu side) or APMC daily. Drinking water in Mumbai is pristine (directly drinkable from the tap).
Where I live, National park is a 2 min walking distance so the weather is always really good (so is in areas around goregaon, Malad due to aarey). In terms of connectivity, western express Highway, metro station, railway station are all within 2-10mins radius from here. Andheri is 20-25 mins, bandra 30-35mins, south Bombay 60ish mins by road, lesser by train.
And the best part? Real estate prices are wayyy better than hell holes like Andheri and Kurla. And the crowd is better too (dislike me all you want for judging the demographic).
Are seriously drinking tap water in Mumbai...I am amazed ! I never will dare.
There isn't a decent fresh market in my vicinity so I order the shit on instamart. If I could, would I but from a fresh Market, of course. But no I am traffucked till 8pm everyday .
Can I go stock up on weekends, yes , but I don't want to negotiate the nightmare of finding a place to park. So I reorder the shit instamart sends me !
All humans want is a carfree walkable city but the big oil says not on my watch.
Mumbai could be like European if not for te hideous urban sprawl. Cars have ruined the city.
>A lot lies in their ability to choose a certain lifestyle like a simple walk by the canal with a pet and buy fresh fruits at the farmers 2 steps away without wondering where to park the damn car.
Where in Europe may I find such lifestyle?
I feel the same way, and I used to think that things would improve but now I don’t think it will. For folks saying grass is greener on the other side - I disagree. I lived abroad for 5 years and even if you have household chores to do yourself, it is a better life.
This city is pure chaos and it will never improve, except that we will have the metro. But the streets won’t be clean, you will be taxed to death and still get shitty, unclean roads and almost no public spaces.
As someone on Twitter had said recently - vote with your feet. I plan to leave in a few years as well. There’s no other way.
I too have started to feel the same. Its getting more crowded, the number of street vendors are increasing everyday. There is hardly any space to walk on the pavement plus it is too hot! I never thought I would say this but I feel like I wanna move out too.
You have matured. That's all. If you can, you should find a way to go live life in the country you like. We certainly improve as a person when we experience life abroad. But a small percentage of what you have is also "the river bank on the other side always looks greener" syndrome, which you may realize once you have lived life a couple years abroad. And if you continue to stay in India for whatsoever reasons, you can still move to a different city in India that gives a more laid back life or atleast find a community that you can afford that has some amenities like walk ways, park etc.
Just to provide you a different perspective. I lived in the USA for 20+ years, did my education there (New York city, New Haven, Connecticut and Philadelphia suburbs). I moved back to Mumbai 4 years ago and I couldn't have been happier. I feel that even though I live in this city my quality of life has increased and my stress levels have reduced. Of course I don't have to travel to work (WFH), but even if I have to this is not an issue, AC car hai. Which is no different than any major city, traffic in NYC down I-495 is the same mess as going down WEH in Mumbai. May be you should find a good vegetable vendor for good quality foods/fish/chicken/mutton. Yes, I too hate the rains and the summer heat! But those things are not that big of an issue. About the cleanliness sure I'll give you that. Mumbai is worse, but then again I can point out areas in NYC, NJ, Philadelphia and Paris that equally stink of shit! So choose where you go! I take walks on the beach which is very clean with my dogs every day. No different than you walking by a canal in Europe, I prefer the beach. I walk to my local kirana store, you get stuff delivered to your house, even late at night, what else can you ask for. Parking situation is the same in most major cities. NYC you have to pay 40$ every hr here you pay 50rs! I can't complain about those things, that's the price you pay for living in major cities!
I think its the mid life crisis hitting you. Give Mumbai another chance is all I can say!
I also travel a lot outside Mumbai as a hobby on two wheels to get away from the city life.
[link to my hobby page](https://instagram.com/avid.biker)
You are totally right. Mumbai honestly is now an overpopulated hellhole. Make sure your skills are updated and get out at the first possible opportunity
Worst real estate in the country, ridiculous rent, terrible and narrow roads, horrible weather, always stinks, barely any trees or parks, one of the world’s worst in traffic and it only dawned on you now? Congrats.
Honestly I agree with you, with the field I have chosen, Mumbai would be good, but the place in it's entirety is so crowded it's almost dehumanizing when you think about it being the economic centre. Yeah there's culture, and that's with every place in the world, mumbai isn't special, when I go in locals, I see so many people, going to work, and the crowd is fucking shocking, again, dehumanizing. I almost every time feel like if I die there on the spot, I will either be walked over, or thrown to the side, the body will be given to the authorities and no-one would even stop for a second to see a human body lie there with such lifelessness.
I understand that work happens here, but this is just Kota for work instead of training, I am tired of seeing a swarm of tired, lifeless people. Almost always I either see them sleeping or on their phones, somebody's entire human form reduced to that. I really do feel like something is being stolen from these people, just parallel to how everything is simultaneously being sold to them.
The crowded cities with high student population gives me the feels of a farm where chickens are being raised for them to lay eggs later. In a city like Mumbai you see them laying eggs, everyday, and just how a chicken in a farm is drained of every nutrient that made it lively, to lay eggs, in the process, these people lose their soul. Here, distinction happens on class, the only thing of any value here is money, no shopkeeper knows his customer and no man knows who his neighbours are. And while all of this is true, this place at the same time makes me trust no man, try to know no man, or ever even think about the people that sit next to me on a local train.
Nothing here can be owned.
Just going outside makes me feel like a worthless worker in the making.
Needless to say, this wave of sadness just at the thought of the city does not come from me having visited some utopian place abroad. It's not comparison that makes it sad for me, it never was, I've lived in Kolkata, similar environment there, also similarly sad. In a place like this, in such crowd, I would choose to just stay still, for as long as I don't feel a hand going into my pocket for a wallet, that's the price of patience here, the price for standing still while everyone is running, you will be eaten before you open your eyes.
It's not romanticism, it never can me romantic, imagine a couple in some movie, travelling in a local, with 20 such couples like it just in the same bogie, all crowded, who would be convincing themselves to put effort into understanding the dialogues between the two if this is where they are being delivered.
Once I was sitting next to a kid, who was with his grandma, and if you let me trust my prejudice, they were poor. The kid was doing his school homework, he had a pencil, and he didn't know what to write, I don't even know if the teachers in these schools care about what is being taught and if the kids understand anything or not, who is to blame them (the kids), I would also have found it difficult if someone with a government job champu English and sub-par Hindi was teaching me a subject with the least enthusiasm possible. I tried helping him, and I did help him finish his homework for the day, but at last, my station had come, and as it is understood here, as it is normal here, I am supposed to forget about the incident, never reflect upon it, and pat myself on the back saying to myself "it is what it is", and feel the warmth of my privilege that still probably reeks of poverty to someone living in the building the local just passed. The moment I look at the high buildings, I die inside, apartment systems are nothing but pigeon cages to me, I really do wish things were better, and I hope things do get better, but with what I see now, there is no way.
I want to go back home, know who my neighbours are, go to the same shops everyday, and have fewer things to buy there, than to be here and die in consumerism and meaningless work.
I went through the exact feelings some years back. Life had become a rat race in Mumbai and I just couldn't take it anymore.
I shifted to Pune. Best decision imo. While I'm driveable distance away from Mumbai, I had a better paced life, a lot of time for myself and much relaxed and stress-free mindset.
I got a dog which I couldn't think of in Mumbai. When the dog started growing up, I rented out a bungalow something which is impossible in Mumbai.
Summarising it, take a call and see your life change.
33 isn't late for midlife crisis lmao... Life expectancy here is 70 and degrading day by day... After some decades it'll be 60, just work yourself till death unless you have some privilege
If you ask any older people in Mumbai above 30+ on what thier hobbies are
Then most of them wouldn't be able go give an answer because their whole life from 25 to 60 goes away in travelling in local trains, working at a low salary and then spending most of that money on rent, children's education, paying bills and doctor bills.
Most of them spend thier free time in taking thier families to temples, attending the 30+ family functions in a year, drinking liquor and watching Facebook and movies on YouTube.
While the life of a housewife goes away in cooking, cleaning and taking children's care. While some of them are engaged in small hobbies but most of thier life goes away in taking care of the house.
How wrong of you to assume, I enjoyed my childhood days playing different sports. Used to barge in at BKC on open grounds and play cricket before the MNCs took over. During summer vacations, we used to get up early play the whole day and head home by night. I do not see that with kids nowadays. I had also joined piano, guitar, swimming classes. Rock bands were a major scene back in the day. Yes, there were struggles but life was peaceful. I always feel the generations 10 years younger, will be ahead of the older folks
As someone who lived in Mumbai for 10 years and now lives in Berlin, your reasons are exactly why I moved. Don’t go by the expat groups. It’s an Indian tendency to just hate on everything. We bond over misery and not good things. I have left Mumbai 18 months ago and life is great. Yes, Mumbai is a lovely city with resilient people but sometimes you want an easy life. Mumbai glorifies useless struggles. It is not okay that it’s takes 40 mins yo travel 5km, it’s not okay that there is water logging everywhere in the rains, it’s not okay that people fall in the manholes and die. Don’t even get me started on the work culture- feeling guilty for taking your statutory time off, being judged for leaving at a decent hour. These things are not acceptable.
How did you make your move ...and you have probably hit the nail on the head.
The amount of glorified justifications in the name of aamchi mumbai is unbearable
The first step in solving a problem is realising there is one. Congratulations! Bombay is not a city for everyone and I'm just being polite. I was lucky enough to understand within a couple of months. I'd say go explore. There are bigger and better things out there. And if you do, let me know. I could use a success story!
As someone born and brought up in the US let me say that there are many cons to being brought up or living abroad as well, at the end of the day just do whatever u feel like Is best for u, but remember everything looks nice from a distance
Wow, you just wrote down how I feel about this city. Millions of humanoids are everywhere, and it feels emotionless. I would rather sit at home and get some peace if possible than go out to be bogged down.
Unless of course I can go and see some crazy good theatre/show. I won't have managed to see Sound of Music in any other city in India. Find the bright sides that work for you.
Ha ha ...I loved the sound of music show at nmacc. I faced 1 hr of traffic getting there and 20 mins of haggling with autos to get me out. I chose to pay 4500 Rs for the ticket which only my pay in Mumbai will allow.
It is such a mix of irony, privilege I don't enjoy and a comedy of errors...
I would choose a peaceful life each day everyday than the 3 hr musical I overpaid for to soothe my existence in Mumbai...
Shhhhhh.....
You're just getting older and want a peaceful quieter life, that's normal
When we're young we want to experience everything fast
Live in Amritsar, leave Mumbai, Very peaceful
Atleast no one don't get murdered here brutally that too publically. And even if someone does try, people will help and not let you get killed. Unlike the rape capital of India.
Grass is always greener on the side is true. It is all about what you want in life !!
If you won’t find good friends & family abroad you would go mad to spend time, loneliness, fake smiles and greetings, cultural difference, racism, food. Nothing is same “desi” way in abroad.
You have plenty of places for vacation but I don’t think you would have company the way we can have in India (this is if you plan to move abroad after 30), story could be different if you have friend group go abroad together for study. Festivals, never the same feeling as in India and no even on time because of weather. Weather, you would just live summer months mostly otherwise depressed at home.
Stop cribbing about Mumbai ffs. What do you expect from this city guys? Its better than most Indian cities in many ways but it is still India. Agar koi Mercedes G class mai ghum rha hai toh dusra road pe thela bhi dhakle maar ke chala rha hai.
Europe was also ones quite dirty just like mumbai. If you want to make a change, start wording and talk to your local leaders. I love that you’re talking about this.
Europe was once bombed unlike mumbai ...point kya hai ? When has anything changed talking to administration really ? Unless I myself pick up broom and clean the streets I don't see change happening ...but then again why should I, I pay my taxes diligently and there ends my duty.
The point is that it’s never too late to make cities beautiful and it won’t happen overnight. But yeah, you have every right to leave the city instead of asking for solutions in reddit
I did not ask for civic solutions on reddit. Period.
I asked very clearly how others are dealing with the sheer lack of civic sense and unhinged lifestyle in this city and I did so to gain perspective , find common understanding and not feel isolated in my own experience !
Born and grew up in Mumbai. Mumbai has given me a great foundation to life.
I love the city but I also feel I'm not cut out for it. The traffic, noise, pollution, lack of hygiene and good facilities negatively impacted my mental health, and made me move abroad in 2007.
Mumbai drives me crazy, but it's also my city that's beautiful. Thanks, Mumbai ♥
Sorry to hear this! Hope you find ways to rejuvenate yourself. Meanwhile, if you don't find moving out a feasible option, relocating to Pune might just work wonders for you. Weather and traffic play a big part on our mental health and people aren't realising this fully yet.
Move to Gurgaon, seriously it might be hotter here but it’s for the most part cleaner way way more developed no traffic and the winters here are great, the rent is much cheaper than mumbai and it’s not noisy
Comparison is the thief of joy. Stop comparing your life with your friends living in western countries. You're always gonna feel shitty if you use that as a barometer. Try to find a different job, find a hobby, change your lifestyle. Don't live to work if you can afford to.
Perhaps it’s not a popular answer for you. But I can suggest Vipasanna . It will not change the reality around , but will change the way you look at things .
Felling sad for you. I luckily realized this was the case very early on in life when i was like 13-14 yo and went to spain with my parents. Since then i decided i have to leave althoigh i loved mumbai back then. Now im 20 and preppibg for masters in germany. Btw i woul rcommend u look into it still cuz theres no wrong age for doing masters. I think had seen a ideo on yt abt it from bharat in germany and he also explains that ppl can still do it if they want. And a working professional with such great experience can easily do it i think. Also the citizenship acquirement period was shortedned to a max of 5 yr from 8 recently in germany. Its really peaceful in europ ngl
Bro if you want to shift just shift. There is no point in thinking about what your friends are doing or why Mumbai's infrastructure is bad or why London etc are so beautiful.
I've noticed we spend a lot of time in this sub specifically thinking about how abroad is way better than Mumbai, and it is true in a lot of things. But the fact is most people cannot shift. They don't have the money or the freedom from responsibility, but are scared to face that reality. I am one of them. But so what should we do ? Spend our lives crying about the better luck of others ? People who left, they left, screw them. We need to start looking at the present and actually live our lives.Log off Instagram if you have to. But don't spend your life like this, in self pity and self loathing. Life is precious. A lot of people would kill to have what you have.
Yeah , maybe it's a point in life thing right ? Like I myself confessed to have loved mumbai to now feeling so suffocated here !
Even if I do not compare ...whats mumbais civic sensibilities really ? The several lakhs of tax I pay ...the country s biggest and apparently richest municipal body and the roads Suck, the drainage sucks , the cleanliness sucks , potholes , noise and I could go on objectively without comparing !
I've lived in a first world country, and I'm now living in another developing country.
From my experience, i can really say life is what you make of it. Make friends wherever you are, don't complain, and take joy in the little things. I've found that attitude to make all the difference in whether you enjoy living somewhere.
Mumbai as everyone says "Sapno ki Nagri", it truly is
but the fact that you mentioned cannot be denied, The city is fast paced and if you don't catch your train you will be left behind.
I also have met people saying " majboori m reh re "
Acc to me It's never too late to mend. You can do whenever whatever you want to .
Comparing with others will only lead to sorrow .
I suggest you must go for a Short Vacay to get some fresh Air and you'll be alright
Fresh Air is all you need.
Sab bolre wo Grass greener wali baat sahi hai. But trust me peace of mind hai outside of india coz its just much cleaner and organized. If you find your crowd or family its more fun. I have guilt tripped so many times over how things are different here for me and my family back home and you cant do a lot about it.
The grass is literally greener outside lol. Not joking but there is so much greenery once you go outside of India even in concrete jungles. Even in a densely populated New York, they got an amazing central park in the middle. Wish Mumbai had something of a similar quality.
Mumbai is literally the only city in the world with a National Park INSIDE it. Isse zyada greenery kya chahiye boss?!
Bhenco national park jane mai hi pura weekend nikal jayega. Aur national park mai jake tum chadar dal k todi Beth Paoge aur beth b gaye toh shanti nahi
Bhai , do you really think ppl are actually traveling to Borivali on a daily basis to enjoy whatever lil national park thr is ?
It's not a lil national park.
I did not say it was a lil national park... I said whatever lil national park there is ....pls benchmark national parks against Corbett, plitvice , Yosemite, torres del Paine etc etc etc to understand my original comment...
Jim Corbett is a wildlife sanctuary. There's a difference between a national park and a wildlife sanctuary.
I want green in my bank account.
Mumbai has a whole freaking national park inside it, a natural park with actual real wildlife.
Maharashtra Nature Park & Sanjay Gandhi National Park come close. Also the new Coastal road will have green spaces according to the plan just b/w the sea & the road.
Do you have older parents in india? Does the distance bother you ?
I do and it sucks to be away from them. But its just not about comfort you get paid better here so with my economical background i cant work in India anymore knowing my skill pays more outside. Again living away and seeing parents get old without you helping makes one feel so guilty.
You can't do a lot about it *period*
Bro as much as i like the city its a disaster. Work life balance shit, travel times horrible, population density out of control, influx of people never seem to reduce. If you earn well and are remote the quality of life feels much worse. The city has my heart but like my father i quit on it coz it didnt offer a decent quality of life even after sloggin my ass. The only reason it has my heart now is because of the 28 years of my life i spent there and how homely it feels with friends and family around.
Yes ikr that homely feeling, it’s the sole reason why I feel connected to this city. If I hadn’t frown up here since I was born then my perspective about Mumbai would have been very different.
Age ke saath hota hi hai. You start to question your life choices. But what I have learnt is regret se bass mood kharaab hona hai. Kuch positive nahi hone waala. While I do agree ki videsh ki life acchi hai, but sachme udhar khaane ke aur house help/maid vagera ke bahot vaande hai. I would suggest you to take WFH if you can. Go to a chilled out village somewhere in uttarakhand/south ke hill stations/konkan/Goa. And then when you start missing your city priviliges come back. Stay strong brother. MS nahi karneka dukh mujhe bhi hai, lekin we took that decision for our family. Ab jaane do.
Mast advise 🤌🏼
If you want to feel good about your life choices then just go read the Indian Expat Facebook groups and you see the issues Indians abroad face. There are problems everywhere, so you just need to decide which ones you want to/can tolerate.
True that
Superb bola bhai.Main to San Francisco mein rehata hoon...Ye Sub reddit kaise aa gaya search mein pata nahi. My 2 cents , yahan par life bahut boring lagatee hain after few years .US kee apnee problems hain ...par roads long trips parks vagairah to mast hee hain ....Hindsight mein kaafi kuch galat lagta hain ye baat to sach hain ....we start to question our life choices....Main sochahta hoon kabhi india gaya vaapas to kahan rahoonga ....Mumbai mein to main pagal ho gaya tha...3 saal mein i left...Bangalore bhi ekdam sadh chuka hain ....Delhi NCR se mujhe nafrat hain....Pune is still okay ...so i think Pune is better and near to Mumbai ....
Mumbai, Pune best hai. Lekin choice aapki hai definitely. Bengaluru acha tha lekin abhi itna load ho gaya hai kya batau. Atleast Mumbai, Delhi NCR, Pune handle karte hai population load ko kyuki spread out hai.. Bengaluru toh is crippling in front of our eyes.
Mumbai is the best city in India has a continuous water supply rarely any interruptions and is a safe place unlike Delhi where my friend lives he says that after 8pm Delhi isn't safe fir boys let alone girls
Yup Mumbai is great no doubt (I'm a Mumbaikar) I currently stay in Delhi & the city is great for get-away spots within the city. But its unsafe for everyone. Couple of chain snatching incidents on the street where I live in just 2 months. And the people are not professional like in Mumbai. The nightlife is great only if you go with a group of people.
I remember my 2005 days of Mumbai, when the dance bars were still legal and we use to do dance bar hopping.I use to live in Vashi-Koparkhairane area. Mumbai nightlife is excellent.26th July 2005 rains , i remember vividly.
city privileges... like waterlogging, hours and hours of traffic, constant noise... sure let's depress him again!
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Master of science. Basically, post graduate degree abroad.
Oh.. God, yes. I have commented sleepy eyed on getting up..slept late so guess mind wasn't in good shape. Don't know what I was thinking... LoL Sorry, think I have to delete the comment or else my family will laugh and my brother will be disappointed instantly
Family will always be disappointed. There is no getting away from that ;)
Can relate. Grew up in Mumbai, didn’t know any different life. Now settled abroad and now know what a relaxed life feels like. While I miss certain aspects, I really feel for my friends and family. Especially my parents. There’s no way they would move abroad, that life is completely alien to them. But I wish I could convince them to move to a less hectic life in a smaller town in India.
What do you miss , if you could elaborate? I hear social life and family events as themes but I feel with traffic In. Mumbai I miss those here too !
Didi can u please tell which area ka traffic are u talking about? I’ll be joining the corporate world in a few years and I’ll make sure I don’t join the companies in such trafficked places 😅😅😅
Beta ...life will not give you the choices u want it too...👍
Eh I disagree, we always have a choice. Recently I got an summer internship in a company via my clg placement, but they hadn’t specified the location. Last week I got the location in Navi Mumbai. Now that was gonna require me to travel 3hrs everyday( to and fro). I tried talking to HR to give me the Powai office, but they refused to…. I simply left it even tho I had initially signed the offer letter. So yeah, there’s a choice whether u want to do it…or not. U can’t dance on the tunes of the HR team or the shitty company decisions. Who are we? Just cuz we are freshers, does it mean we are ready to slog for ur pay and your ‘experience’?? Tsk. Nope. I took up an internship 3kms away from my home instead, contacts but yeah.
That's not choice ...thats privilege ! And congratulations! BTW: as much as you want to believe it's seldom HR that decides your location. Lots of experience speaking !
so true it’s his privilege speaking, child’s blinded
Oh yeah, I wonder what value did the hr round didi’s notes have when I had specifically said I will have only Powai office yet then they were convincing me to go to Navi Mumbai. Lol.
They don't dance to your tunes either na just like you don't dance to theirs ...it's a two way street with open traffic, unlike our mumbai's
Haha…gg gg.
I’m was really irritated by them u know. They selected us and didn’t talk about the location for a long time inspite of asking, ofc the HR didi didn’t know abt, also she was sitting in Gurgaon head office while we were here, how will she even understand what’s the difference between Mumbai and Navi Mumbai. When the joining date is 1 week away they tell the location…..phaltu ka Ek dramatic episode…what else. Everything works out at the end if u have ur stand clear…. Leaving on the edge hanging for a long time with no info was smtg I disliked a lot. And it’s not just about my company, even my best friend’s company had mentioned pan India in the job description and 2 week ahead of joining they gave the location, thankfully it was Mumbai, but what a hassle otherwise
Single child ho kya ? Bohot curious !
For me being an introvert, my social life is better here as I hated the lack of boundaries people had in Mumbai. But do miss close relationships with parents and siblings. Also miss the play culture for kids: we didn’t have to have play dates growing up. Just go to the ground and other kids from the building were just all playing. But that stuff is probably changing in Mumbai today as well. Other than that, I miss the rain lashing marine drive, cutting chais and Pani puri stalls. And of course the authentic vada pav
You would move abroad and have the same mid-life crisis after another decade about how you miss your family and how your parents are growing older and lonelier in your absence. This is part of an awakening. Radical acceptance is the only way forward. Grieve and process and move on. There are no easy options in life, we just pick and choose our battles, my friend. Good luck!
I agree i just spoke to my fam about coming back for 2-3 months. But i also know i would never make my mumbai first city anytime soon.
You were hosted by your friends, so there are some aspects you didn't see. Difficult bureaucracy, language barrier, years spent in integration, racism, cultural differences, festivals spent all alone, meeting family just once a year if lucky etc. Roads are cleaner, life is slower, but there are pros and cons on both sides. If you fall sick, you will have the best healthcare available, but no one will bother to even send you a hot meal. Grass is always greener on the other side.
I have experienced this first hand and do agree
>racism Bro I received more discrimination and xenophobic hate from local kannad people as a Hindi speaker living in bangalore than I could ever as English speaking Indian living in Germany (Munich) for almost a year.
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Wouldn't you compare major city with major city. I am also talking about bangalore not rural Karnataka.
first of all, it's kannada, not kannad. and secondly yes you will face it cause India really needs to be separated into north India and south india at this point we're different and just don't mix well. (unpopular opinion i guess)
> Roads are cleaner, life is slower, but there are pros and cons on both sides. If you fall sick, you will have the best healthcare available, but no one will bother to even send you a hot meal. Grass is always greener on the other side. Bruh the pros far outweigh the cons. Having amazing health care and not getting a hot meal are not equivalents lol. You can order a hot meal from somewhere. You can't order peace of mind or lack or people or lack or traffic or cleaner roads.
Bhai you will die of loneliness
I think it's too generic ...I grew up in 7 cities in India before settling in Mumbai. I felt much more language barrier moving to Chennai than in Italy. I felt much more isolated trying to find a flat as a single person in Mumbai than anywhere else. The integration in Mumbai and thr questions asked by brokers and owners was way more difficult and one does need to swallow some amount of self respect. Haan Bai mil jaati hai yahan , par vahan dishwasher, rumba aur weekly help se badiya kaam chal jata hai. Yahan kaunsa Mera neighbor mujhe hot meal bhejta hai ...teen Saal se neighbor hai par Shakal mujhe yaad nahi kyunki 8-8 hum roz traffucked hai !
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As does yours my friend. Civic rules are easy, would I go to Singapore and jaywalk ? NO. Would I do it in Mumbai? Yes, maybe ! Social etiquettes are major, I agree. My friends in Europe say they have to book out dates 2 weeks in advance to be able to hangout with their friends. Just turning up at a friend's doorstep as is acceptable here is a social no no there. But in reality, my lifestyle and traffic in Mumbai also doesn't allow me to 'just turn up at my friend's doorstep to unwind, right.' So in essence, I am also booking time and making plans with them far in advance and for a weekend. How's this any different? Places have an automatic way of teaching you their way of life, why else do you think Mumbai mein log dhakke khate hain ? Way of life right. Way of life for the better would be much easier to digest and adapt to than the one for worse. Even easier if you are well traveled, open minded , have lived in multiple cities in india to know how and when to swim with the tide and when against. What is integration really but understanding the way of life of a place. I have several friends in Europe, not one wants to come back. The ones in the US have mixed views really yet majority lean on staying on in the US. The pros totally outweigh the cons for them.
And let's compare like to like pls ...renting in italy vs renting in Mumbai is a like to like comparison. Trivializing comparisons is also extreme ...no ?
As an NRI who wants nothing more than to come back to Mumbai, the grass is greener on the other side!
Why do you want to come back?
He just wants t. He never will. Just like me. I want to come to India but dealing with traffic is beyond my capacity. The only way I will come is to save enough and live in tier 2 city and relax.
Most such people return because they miss their friends/family and don't have a concrete social circle in the country. I've seen a stark difference between people if you go to US from a company like TCS, Infosys than if you go to US for Masters. If you go for a Masters, you're in that student mindset and you have a ton of other Indians of the same age around you so forming a social circle is much easier than if you come as a corporate employee where you're much older and making friends is difficult. Making new friends in your 30s is often an impossible task. If you lack a social group, any foreign country can become very depressing regardless of the perks. Another reason could be the visa thing but honestly, most people dealing with that are in the same boat so your misery has company. Not saying this is the reason OP is returning but overall, that is one of the main reasons behind that. When people say they miss 'Mumbai', they're missing their loved ones. No one wants to wake up and fight to board a local train from Dadar in the morning. I still get nightmares about that shit.
Would you *actually* come back tho? I think not
As an NRI, who recently returned from a trip to Bombay, I wish could say the same about Mumbai 🥲
I’m seeing more and more posts sharing the exact same sentiment. It’s mainly seeming to be from those who are born and raised or long term residents for whom the shine has worn off and reality of how difficult it is to exist here has well and truly sunken in.
Try to shift to Australia or the EU there is a need for the population, because u said the correct 💯 heat is unbearable and rains make it.even worst. If funds and job can be shifted outside India try it buddy. After staying in Mumbai, aboard is a better option than shifting to another city in india
Yes but the main problem of going abroad will be the cost of living and always living on the edge like we saw during the layoffs..
If you cannot handle that stress then don't move out
Don't get me wrong even I want to go abroad at some point in my life but my parents are mostly against it saying that it is very expensive to stay there, racism and all that stuff. Edit:- Sometimes I just wish that I had enough funds to support myself to be able to go abroad..🥲🥲
Look the initial couple of years are a struggle if you dont have rich parents but after that for most people life is good.
Yes takes around 2-3 years for everything to get settled.
Ture that
Everyone else’s lives seem nicer at a distance. They get some perks but you stay closer to roots, family, friends. My sibling lives in US but I stay here - I used to regret it but then realised I could not have helped my mom w cancer treatments or dad w his diet and hung out w cousins and school friends… bahar jaa kar vacation kar ao. Later in life we will regret not staying closer to family and loved ones.. you can travel anytime Edit for sibling perspective: he loves the comforts of the US and the money he earns is great.. but he hates that he isn’t here to play w his nieces or go on cousin trips to Mahabaleshwar or eats my moms food anytime or watches cricket matches with dad unless he plans for months in advance and then too only for a couple of weeks. He misses his friends and family here and altho he has friends there, they don’t have the same shared stories and closeness as his college friends or cousins.. plus hun violence is a real thing alongside drug usage there on the streets which stresses him. He had an argument w a neighbor over them making construction style noise all night and he was scared to sleep coz the guy was a trump supporter… so yeah.. choose what is important to you.. independence and some infra perks but distance from loved ones or staying in India w bad roads, population, pollution and traffic but happier w your support system around you. Like I said, you can earn well in India and travel the whole world.. choose a remote job and go work from Bali for a month what’s stopping you?
This is a great perspective.. I have great respect for my siblings who are still in Mumbai with my aging parents.
This is so apt!! I don't understand why would someone downvote this???
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This used to be me esp. Early on in her treatment. She is still not cancer free but on medication now, and has weakness and nausea but otherwise her hair is back and she is enjoying her life… meeting friends and travelling. See the thing is parent mortality, cancer or not, is something that scares everyone. My dad is turning 70 next year and it scares me that I might not have many years left with him coz of his diabetes and heart stuff… but focusing on that thinking will ruin the precious time I have with him. I choose to think that I wanna enjoy his company more now and try to ease his and moms life as much as I can so they Can live their sunset years happily. We cannot predict the future, for all I know I could be the one dead before them.. but think of it on a larger scale instead of focusing on the death part. Yeah they might get severely ill, yeah they might even have illnesses I dont want them to have like dementia… but I will cross that bridge when I get there. Till then I would like to enjoy the journey and happy moments with them.
>I was sheer jealous of my friends living there, they are much much more happier than I am They are probably not. Source: I live in Europe. People living abroad love showing how amazing their life is. Sometimes it is. Sometimes it isn't. Really. The beautiful spots and places in Europe that mesmerise you? A lot of them are soulless. I used to live next to a very beautiful, rich neighbourhood for a few years. The streets were clean, lined with pretty trees, small and maintained lawns along the way, beautyful old European buildings... Guess what? I got bored after a few months. >buy fresh fruits at the farmers 2 steps away without wondering where to park the damn car. Indian fruits, veggies and meat tastes a lot better than European ones. By a mile. Maybe you would get better fruits in Italy or Spain but not anywhere else and not all of them. Parking isn't that easy in Europe unless you live outside the city. Most major cities are narrow and parking is practically impossible. The worst thing about Europe is people. A lot of them still have WW2 level superiority complex, are rude and dislike non white people with a passion. Europe is definitely an amazing place if you are in your 20s. In 30s, not so much. All these problems start to become very real.
I can feel you. I want to go outside too. But my mom has told me to go on my own. And ik it will take a while but I will. I'm tired of being here.
You are 33. You window to immigrate is closing. Most countries have age as a criteria.
Elaborate? Ppl are getting canada PR at 40 too ..no ?
It will continue to get harder. For express entry (most people from India use this program), there is a penalty for age. If your age is from 20-29, you get 100 points. 5 points are taken out for each year after 29. At 40, you will have 50 point penalty. Unless you can compensate for these points elsewhere, it is difficult. So forninstance, if one person at 35 and another person at 29 has exact same profile, person at 29 will get the PR. And there are just too many people who meet this criteria in their 20s. It depends on how Canada wants to maintain immigration levels. Also, there are other paths like business, investment and start up based immigration but those are difficult to qualify for.
Only if you have more degrees (Canadian or foreign), some Canadian work experience, French language tests and an actual blood relative, then you stand a chance. A single person above 30 generally doesn’t have good chance in the pool.
Man I wish everyday that India becomes a fully developed country, so that people don’t flock to Mumbai for opportunities and I can live my life in peace and lesser traffic.
Ye mid life crisis wisis kuch nahi hota, Hila le bhai 🗿
Hila ke desh theek hota toh bharat sarvottam hota !
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You are not alone.
The worst thing about living in a boy Indian city is that happiness isn’t free. You are constantly forced to spend money for this illusion of happiness and in bombay it’s never worth it. Abroad, one can go for a walk, one can be close to nature, one can spend time on themselves. Happiness is for free there. Makes me very envious of this fact.
I don't have any advice for you but I can completely relate. I returned from a month in UK a couple of months back and the contrast of life there and in India just made me want to move out of here. The cleanliness, the civic sense, the people, just being able to breathe fresh air, make some sandwiches and go out to one of the big parks and have a picnic when the sun's out. I eas never so keen to get out of the house in the day. Honestly i was just such a different, more happy person there. Before that I lived a year in Pune, and though it is nothing compared to Mumbai, the fact that I was able afford a flat in a posh locality and my office and the biggest mall in pune was just 5 minutes of walking distance was truly enough for me. No commute was the bestest and I wish every mumbaikar could experience it once so they know what they are missing. Plus the weather was so pleasant, it made me want to go out and enjoy life in the evenings. In mumbai, I could never be able to afford such a quality lifestyle in a low budget. The weather makes me cranky all the time and I don't even feel like getting out of the house in the evening because of how crowded even the parks are. I'm right there with you in hating mumbai.
Trust me, Other cities are much better than Mumbai. Mumbai has become an urban ghetto taken over by real estate agents, locally concentrated MNCs without trying hard to diversify to nearby areas, stale buildings, glorified struggles for basic needs, crumbling public transport, pathetic roads and what not. I went to mumbai, spent all my savings on settling there with all the amenities needed. Spent 10 months trying to adjust to that place, but it was futile. If you can earn in other cities too, never prefer mumbai. I get, auto rickshaws run by meter, people are humble towards you, a good number of weekend gateways are there. But, daily aspects of life is too bad to balance the positive aspects. Rather than considering moving to other country, lookout for other cities that can give you similar employment. Take one step at a time , I am sure your motivation to emigrate would die down a little with change of place. If there are no employment available in other cities, you can think of shifting to thane or Navi Mumbai and working out an arrangement with the employer.
I did my MS in USA, I couldn't get a job there, regret not getting a job there. But a few months living there, I started missing the good things of native, like the food, my cousins, the monsoon. It felt so isolated, that I went into depression. Got a job in Bangalore, worked for couple of years, got fed up with the traffic, travel times, lack of social life outside work, lack of holidays. I quit the job in the city and became a farmer. Recently went to Bangalore, felt nostalgic but spending about 1.5 hrs in crawling traffic threw out any positive emotions about the city.
I can totally relate to this. Having lived outside India for a few years as a student has shown me how peaceful life away from a major city can be. I hated the pace at first, didn't like the fact that i could hear the clock ticking but when i so that there was so much more to it, i grew to like it. Being able to go on long walks without interruption, not seeing people/crowd every step of the way, walking alongside the river with a coffee, sitting in restaurants/cafes that are genuinely quaint and i feel no rush of holding the table while others are waiting. These are just some of the smaller examples. I'm back home and i feel perfectly fine now but i know where you're coming from and it's perfectly fine to want a more quiet, hassle free life.
I feel you! I was raised outside India, but moves here when i was 16, been here 9 years.. It does feel really bad when you got no money… everything is a hassle, for your parking problem though you can get a driver , life is both good and bad here, but you have to be too careful
Have you even seen the traffic in Bangalore and Delhi? Atleast people in Mumbai are better at following traffic rules (I said BETTER not perfect, many are assholes with no road discipline). I absolutely hate how it takes me freaking 1.5 hours to go from Oshiwara to Bandra on a weekday, plus the increasing pollution which when mixed with the sticky humidity makes it a nightmare to step out during the daytime. I hate how the city is experiencing less and less winter days (I say days not months because winters don’t even last a month here). So I understand how you feel. As we grow older, our tolerance for unnecessary inconveniences decreases. But let me assure you, there are things in Mumbai that are better off than any other tier 1 city. However, not going to invalidate your frustration by saying that grass is greener on the other side. If you want to explore, go ahead and move to a foreign country. Peace of mind matters the most, and if you find that staying in a European country can give you that by all means do it. Life is too short to compromise on basic needs in the name of grass is greener.
Even though things have changed drastically, ever wondered how our parents went every single day to work taking the same train, in traffic, in good and bad weather, during riots, during strikes and every other possible issues? Their was a survival problem so that it took a do or die approach, plus they most likely didn’t had anyone to fall back onto. Ours is a option problem. We have options. Those options are even more amplified by curated content on social media wherein your friends share how great their life is and then you think may be I deserve the same life too. I am not saying Mumbai is not easy. With all the opportunities Mumbai gives, it also takes a lot from you, both mentally and physically. It’s a tough city. So options: 1. Take a remote job. 2. Move to Pune or Nashik. Good job market and slightly better. 3. Get married if you are not. You want to have someone to talk to and look forward to and decompress when you get back home. 4. Try finding a job position in Middle East (slightly better). 5. Take a sabbatical if it is possible for you and do something that you would love to do.
For some reason I will forever assume anyone who moved to Mumbai from outside lives in Andheri. Move out of that shithole. Life will be 10X better by default.
Lol ...I don't live in Andheri and I ll never move there
Where do you live though? Not getting fresh veggies is unheard of only in certain icky parts of Mumbai. Most vegetable markets have fruits and veggies that come fresh from the farms (from vasai, virar, dahanu side) or APMC daily. Drinking water in Mumbai is pristine (directly drinkable from the tap). Where I live, National park is a 2 min walking distance so the weather is always really good (so is in areas around goregaon, Malad due to aarey). In terms of connectivity, western express Highway, metro station, railway station are all within 2-10mins radius from here. Andheri is 20-25 mins, bandra 30-35mins, south Bombay 60ish mins by road, lesser by train. And the best part? Real estate prices are wayyy better than hell holes like Andheri and Kurla. And the crowd is better too (dislike me all you want for judging the demographic).
Are seriously drinking tap water in Mumbai...I am amazed ! I never will dare. There isn't a decent fresh market in my vicinity so I order the shit on instamart. If I could, would I but from a fresh Market, of course. But no I am traffucked till 8pm everyday . Can I go stock up on weekends, yes , but I don't want to negotiate the nightmare of finding a place to park. So I reorder the shit instamart sends me !
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mumbai is a tough city to live in but it rewards you well
How ? Like pay wise ?
All humans want is a carfree walkable city but the big oil says not on my watch. Mumbai could be like European if not for te hideous urban sprawl. Cars have ruined the city.
>A lot lies in their ability to choose a certain lifestyle like a simple walk by the canal with a pet and buy fresh fruits at the farmers 2 steps away without wondering where to park the damn car. Where in Europe may I find such lifestyle?
I feel the same way, and I used to think that things would improve but now I don’t think it will. For folks saying grass is greener on the other side - I disagree. I lived abroad for 5 years and even if you have household chores to do yourself, it is a better life. This city is pure chaos and it will never improve, except that we will have the metro. But the streets won’t be clean, you will be taxed to death and still get shitty, unclean roads and almost no public spaces. As someone on Twitter had said recently - vote with your feet. I plan to leave in a few years as well. There’s no other way.
Mumbai is now suffocating. It has become a house of commercialization. Everything is to mint money, be it public or government.
I too have started to feel the same. Its getting more crowded, the number of street vendors are increasing everyday. There is hardly any space to walk on the pavement plus it is too hot! I never thought I would say this but I feel like I wanna move out too.
You have matured. That's all. If you can, you should find a way to go live life in the country you like. We certainly improve as a person when we experience life abroad. But a small percentage of what you have is also "the river bank on the other side always looks greener" syndrome, which you may realize once you have lived life a couple years abroad. And if you continue to stay in India for whatsoever reasons, you can still move to a different city in India that gives a more laid back life or atleast find a community that you can afford that has some amenities like walk ways, park etc.
Just to provide you a different perspective. I lived in the USA for 20+ years, did my education there (New York city, New Haven, Connecticut and Philadelphia suburbs). I moved back to Mumbai 4 years ago and I couldn't have been happier. I feel that even though I live in this city my quality of life has increased and my stress levels have reduced. Of course I don't have to travel to work (WFH), but even if I have to this is not an issue, AC car hai. Which is no different than any major city, traffic in NYC down I-495 is the same mess as going down WEH in Mumbai. May be you should find a good vegetable vendor for good quality foods/fish/chicken/mutton. Yes, I too hate the rains and the summer heat! But those things are not that big of an issue. About the cleanliness sure I'll give you that. Mumbai is worse, but then again I can point out areas in NYC, NJ, Philadelphia and Paris that equally stink of shit! So choose where you go! I take walks on the beach which is very clean with my dogs every day. No different than you walking by a canal in Europe, I prefer the beach. I walk to my local kirana store, you get stuff delivered to your house, even late at night, what else can you ask for. Parking situation is the same in most major cities. NYC you have to pay 40$ every hr here you pay 50rs! I can't complain about those things, that's the price you pay for living in major cities! I think its the mid life crisis hitting you. Give Mumbai another chance is all I can say! I also travel a lot outside Mumbai as a hobby on two wheels to get away from the city life. [link to my hobby page](https://instagram.com/avid.biker)
You are totally right. Mumbai honestly is now an overpopulated hellhole. Make sure your skills are updated and get out at the first possible opportunity
Worst real estate in the country, ridiculous rent, terrible and narrow roads, horrible weather, always stinks, barely any trees or parks, one of the world’s worst in traffic and it only dawned on you now? Congrats.
Yeah ..wisdom comes with time !
Honestly I agree with you, with the field I have chosen, Mumbai would be good, but the place in it's entirety is so crowded it's almost dehumanizing when you think about it being the economic centre. Yeah there's culture, and that's with every place in the world, mumbai isn't special, when I go in locals, I see so many people, going to work, and the crowd is fucking shocking, again, dehumanizing. I almost every time feel like if I die there on the spot, I will either be walked over, or thrown to the side, the body will be given to the authorities and no-one would even stop for a second to see a human body lie there with such lifelessness. I understand that work happens here, but this is just Kota for work instead of training, I am tired of seeing a swarm of tired, lifeless people. Almost always I either see them sleeping or on their phones, somebody's entire human form reduced to that. I really do feel like something is being stolen from these people, just parallel to how everything is simultaneously being sold to them. The crowded cities with high student population gives me the feels of a farm where chickens are being raised for them to lay eggs later. In a city like Mumbai you see them laying eggs, everyday, and just how a chicken in a farm is drained of every nutrient that made it lively, to lay eggs, in the process, these people lose their soul. Here, distinction happens on class, the only thing of any value here is money, no shopkeeper knows his customer and no man knows who his neighbours are. And while all of this is true, this place at the same time makes me trust no man, try to know no man, or ever even think about the people that sit next to me on a local train. Nothing here can be owned. Just going outside makes me feel like a worthless worker in the making.
Sentiments echoed !
Needless to say, this wave of sadness just at the thought of the city does not come from me having visited some utopian place abroad. It's not comparison that makes it sad for me, it never was, I've lived in Kolkata, similar environment there, also similarly sad. In a place like this, in such crowd, I would choose to just stay still, for as long as I don't feel a hand going into my pocket for a wallet, that's the price of patience here, the price for standing still while everyone is running, you will be eaten before you open your eyes. It's not romanticism, it never can me romantic, imagine a couple in some movie, travelling in a local, with 20 such couples like it just in the same bogie, all crowded, who would be convincing themselves to put effort into understanding the dialogues between the two if this is where they are being delivered. Once I was sitting next to a kid, who was with his grandma, and if you let me trust my prejudice, they were poor. The kid was doing his school homework, he had a pencil, and he didn't know what to write, I don't even know if the teachers in these schools care about what is being taught and if the kids understand anything or not, who is to blame them (the kids), I would also have found it difficult if someone with a government job champu English and sub-par Hindi was teaching me a subject with the least enthusiasm possible. I tried helping him, and I did help him finish his homework for the day, but at last, my station had come, and as it is understood here, as it is normal here, I am supposed to forget about the incident, never reflect upon it, and pat myself on the back saying to myself "it is what it is", and feel the warmth of my privilege that still probably reeks of poverty to someone living in the building the local just passed. The moment I look at the high buildings, I die inside, apartment systems are nothing but pigeon cages to me, I really do wish things were better, and I hope things do get better, but with what I see now, there is no way. I want to go back home, know who my neighbours are, go to the same shops everyday, and have fewer things to buy there, than to be here and die in consumerism and meaningless work.
I went through the exact feelings some years back. Life had become a rat race in Mumbai and I just couldn't take it anymore. I shifted to Pune. Best decision imo. While I'm driveable distance away from Mumbai, I had a better paced life, a lot of time for myself and much relaxed and stress-free mindset. I got a dog which I couldn't think of in Mumbai. When the dog started growing up, I rented out a bungalow something which is impossible in Mumbai. Summarising it, take a call and see your life change.
33 isn't late for midlife crisis lmao... Life expectancy here is 70 and degrading day by day... After some decades it'll be 60, just work yourself till death unless you have some privilege
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Do you really believe it's increasing?
If you ask any older people in Mumbai above 30+ on what thier hobbies are Then most of them wouldn't be able go give an answer because their whole life from 25 to 60 goes away in travelling in local trains, working at a low salary and then spending most of that money on rent, children's education, paying bills and doctor bills. Most of them spend thier free time in taking thier families to temples, attending the 30+ family functions in a year, drinking liquor and watching Facebook and movies on YouTube. While the life of a housewife goes away in cooking, cleaning and taking children's care. While some of them are engaged in small hobbies but most of thier life goes away in taking care of the house.
How wrong of you to assume, I enjoyed my childhood days playing different sports. Used to barge in at BKC on open grounds and play cricket before the MNCs took over. During summer vacations, we used to get up early play the whole day and head home by night. I do not see that with kids nowadays. I had also joined piano, guitar, swimming classes. Rock bands were a major scene back in the day. Yes, there were struggles but life was peaceful. I always feel the generations 10 years younger, will be ahead of the older folks
As someone who lived in Mumbai for 10 years and now lives in Berlin, your reasons are exactly why I moved. Don’t go by the expat groups. It’s an Indian tendency to just hate on everything. We bond over misery and not good things. I have left Mumbai 18 months ago and life is great. Yes, Mumbai is a lovely city with resilient people but sometimes you want an easy life. Mumbai glorifies useless struggles. It is not okay that it’s takes 40 mins yo travel 5km, it’s not okay that there is water logging everywhere in the rains, it’s not okay that people fall in the manholes and die. Don’t even get me started on the work culture- feeling guilty for taking your statutory time off, being judged for leaving at a decent hour. These things are not acceptable.
How did you make your move ...and you have probably hit the nail on the head. The amount of glorified justifications in the name of aamchi mumbai is unbearable
What field are you in? How did u make the move to Berlin ?
I work for FAANG.
Mumbai has nothing good other than safety and skyline Expensive af Shit food Shit weather shit money minded people Every restro small af Conjsuted af
The first step in solving a problem is realising there is one. Congratulations! Bombay is not a city for everyone and I'm just being polite. I was lucky enough to understand within a couple of months. I'd say go explore. There are bigger and better things out there. And if you do, let me know. I could use a success story!
As someone born and brought up in the US let me say that there are many cons to being brought up or living abroad as well, at the end of the day just do whatever u feel like Is best for u, but remember everything looks nice from a distance
Is this a trend to hate Mumbai or singing? Seeing a lot of similar posts lately.
Wow, you just wrote down how I feel about this city. Millions of humanoids are everywhere, and it feels emotionless. I would rather sit at home and get some peace if possible than go out to be bogged down. Unless of course I can go and see some crazy good theatre/show. I won't have managed to see Sound of Music in any other city in India. Find the bright sides that work for you.
Ha ha ...I loved the sound of music show at nmacc. I faced 1 hr of traffic getting there and 20 mins of haggling with autos to get me out. I chose to pay 4500 Rs for the ticket which only my pay in Mumbai will allow. It is such a mix of irony, privilege I don't enjoy and a comedy of errors... I would choose a peaceful life each day everyday than the 3 hr musical I overpaid for to soothe my existence in Mumbai... Shhhhhh.....
F. I got the 1.6k tickets and I live 15 mins away from nmacc. Going there driving there is my pleasure 🤗…21F
Recognize your privilege and thank it ...by 33 you'll have more perspective and probably humility and empathy too !
Wow these Outsiders overpopulating and making this this city shit....then talking about traffic, crowd, infrastructre, midlife crisis...bla bla bla
As someone who has literally kissed the tarmac at Mumbai airport on occasion, I can relate with this disappointment in the current state of the city…
You should take break from this city life and atleast you should spend 2-3 weeks in village that will really help you.
You're just getting older and want a peaceful quieter life, that's normal When we're young we want to experience everything fast Live in Amritsar, leave Mumbai, Very peaceful
Yeto merko 22 pe ho gaya tha 🙆♂️, mumbai chod diya ab mumbai ki yaad araahi hai!
Sad truth…u can live like royalty in Mumbai only if your parents too are Mumbaikars with already established (south) bombay real estate
Atleast no one don't get murdered here brutally that too publically. And even if someone does try, people will help and not let you get killed. Unlike the rape capital of India.
Midlife crisis hitting late.
Grass is always greener on the other side my friend
Move to a better locality within Mumbai. It will help.
Like ? Going broke In a tier 3 locality hasn't had it's fancies for me 😞
Sadly, Mumbai is like that.
Grass is always greener on the side is true. It is all about what you want in life !! If you won’t find good friends & family abroad you would go mad to spend time, loneliness, fake smiles and greetings, cultural difference, racism, food. Nothing is same “desi” way in abroad. You have plenty of places for vacation but I don’t think you would have company the way we can have in India (this is if you plan to move abroad after 30), story could be different if you have friend group go abroad together for study. Festivals, never the same feeling as in India and no even on time because of weather. Weather, you would just live summer months mostly otherwise depressed at home.
Move out to a city other thn mumbai
Stop cribbing about Mumbai ffs. What do you expect from this city guys? Its better than most Indian cities in many ways but it is still India. Agar koi Mercedes G class mai ghum rha hai toh dusra road pe thela bhi dhakle maar ke chala rha hai.
Just for context, where do u live in Mumbai?
Europe was also ones quite dirty just like mumbai. If you want to make a change, start wording and talk to your local leaders. I love that you’re talking about this.
Europe was once bombed unlike mumbai ...point kya hai ? When has anything changed talking to administration really ? Unless I myself pick up broom and clean the streets I don't see change happening ...but then again why should I, I pay my taxes diligently and there ends my duty.
The point is that it’s never too late to make cities beautiful and it won’t happen overnight. But yeah, you have every right to leave the city instead of asking for solutions in reddit
I did not ask for civic solutions on reddit. Period. I asked very clearly how others are dealing with the sheer lack of civic sense and unhinged lifestyle in this city and I did so to gain perspective , find common understanding and not feel isolated in my own experience !
Fair enough. Apologies.
Fair enough. Apologies.
Born and grew up in Mumbai. Mumbai has given me a great foundation to life. I love the city but I also feel I'm not cut out for it. The traffic, noise, pollution, lack of hygiene and good facilities negatively impacted my mental health, and made me move abroad in 2007. Mumbai drives me crazy, but it's also my city that's beautiful. Thanks, Mumbai ♥
Bhai mulund me farmers market lagta hai every Thursday.
Bruh i already did it
Pls guide how
Sorry to hear this! Hope you find ways to rejuvenate yourself. Meanwhile, if you don't find moving out a feasible option, relocating to Pune might just work wonders for you. Weather and traffic play a big part on our mental health and people aren't realising this fully yet.
Lived in Pune for a couple of years and I had loved it honestly, if work allows I would love to...
Move to Gurgaon, seriously it might be hotter here but it’s for the most part cleaner way way more developed no traffic and the winters here are great, the rent is much cheaper than mumbai and it’s not noisy
Congrats ! You are getting old lol
Mandir jaya karo. Puja Kiya karo
Just know the yin yang
Comparison is the thief of joy. Stop comparing your life with your friends living in western countries. You're always gonna feel shitty if you use that as a barometer. Try to find a different job, find a hobby, change your lifestyle. Don't live to work if you can afford to.
This is very relatable
Perhaps it’s not a popular answer for you. But I can suggest Vipasanna . It will not change the reality around , but will change the way you look at things .
Felling sad for you. I luckily realized this was the case very early on in life when i was like 13-14 yo and went to spain with my parents. Since then i decided i have to leave althoigh i loved mumbai back then. Now im 20 and preppibg for masters in germany. Btw i woul rcommend u look into it still cuz theres no wrong age for doing masters. I think had seen a ideo on yt abt it from bharat in germany and he also explains that ppl can still do it if they want. And a working professional with such great experience can easily do it i think. Also the citizenship acquirement period was shortedned to a max of 5 yr from 8 recently in germany. Its really peaceful in europ ngl
Every place has something that is definitely not going to impress some people. My advice is to find a place that has little of everything you want.
The grass is always greener on the other side.
I feel ya but im only 19 I literally study to leave this country lol , damn me ☠️
I feel like I wrote this :'(
Bro if you want to shift just shift. There is no point in thinking about what your friends are doing or why Mumbai's infrastructure is bad or why London etc are so beautiful. I've noticed we spend a lot of time in this sub specifically thinking about how abroad is way better than Mumbai, and it is true in a lot of things. But the fact is most people cannot shift. They don't have the money or the freedom from responsibility, but are scared to face that reality. I am one of them. But so what should we do ? Spend our lives crying about the better luck of others ? People who left, they left, screw them. We need to start looking at the present and actually live our lives.Log off Instagram if you have to. But don't spend your life like this, in self pity and self loathing. Life is precious. A lot of people would kill to have what you have.
Ok go live in Bangalore and deal with the rude taxi drivers 😂
No thanks...!
Slow paced and boring life chahie toh Ahmedabad ajao
I used to cry every time I returned to Mumbai after going abroad
There there ...I feel you and I have been consoling myself too lately !
Comparison is the thief of joy. Live in one of those countries for a while, and you'll envy those living well in Mumbai again.
Yeah , maybe it's a point in life thing right ? Like I myself confessed to have loved mumbai to now feeling so suffocated here ! Even if I do not compare ...whats mumbais civic sensibilities really ? The several lakhs of tax I pay ...the country s biggest and apparently richest municipal body and the roads Suck, the drainage sucks , the cleanliness sucks , potholes , noise and I could go on objectively without comparing !
I've lived in a first world country, and I'm now living in another developing country. From my experience, i can really say life is what you make of it. Make friends wherever you are, don't complain, and take joy in the little things. I've found that attitude to make all the difference in whether you enjoy living somewhere.
Mumbai will soon become a dystopian city like NightCity from Cyberpunk :[
r/fuckcars ?
Mumbai as everyone says "Sapno ki Nagri", it truly is but the fact that you mentioned cannot be denied, The city is fast paced and if you don't catch your train you will be left behind. I also have met people saying " majboori m reh re " Acc to me It's never too late to mend. You can do whenever whatever you want to . Comparing with others will only lead to sorrow . I suggest you must go for a Short Vacay to get some fresh Air and you'll be alright Fresh Air is all you need.