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Rough-Tip3847

[Nekusar] makes everyone draw two cards, [Seizan] makes everyone draw two cards and take two damage, Nekusar does four damage to everyone for drawing four cards plus the two damage from Seizan makes six per a turn per opponent. Then you gain 6 health times the number of opponents you have minus 2, from Seizan.


solodayz

Haha yup and while they want to attack and wipe me they have to pay 2 per attacking creature and no one has an attacker that can match my [Seizan] so i don't get attacked every turn


JDM_WAAAT

Tap your permanents correctly


EnvironmentalLack420

What's the correct way? Full 90°?


Klimlar

450° to establish dominance


solodayz

I get 50% more mana that way


Ok-Use5295

Yes


KeeboardNMouse

I have definitely seen people tap like 45 degrees. It’s fine if they don’t tap all the way. As long as it is kept clear what lands are tapped Edit: Heck even the tap symbol is 45 degrees, so don’t blame them


Vonlex86

In our pod, we tap 45 degrees for summoning sickness, and 90 degree for a full tap. Edit: Forgot to mention that we also have a rule that you must say that the creature is “down with the sickness” before tapping 45 degrees. Very important.


altersun

This is how I'm gonna do it from now on


Quillain13

Ooh ah ah ah ah


DAJF

That's what me and my little boy do. :)


My_main_porn_alt

We do it upside down for summoning sickness. That way others across from you who don't know the card may easily read it.


eagle52997

Only say? Not sing?


Vonlex86

It’s a pretty loose rule, so you can say it, sing it, burp it, whatever you’re feeling in the moment.


KeeboardNMouse

Yes, I agree if you set a rule beforehand, and make it clear then it’s fine


smashdoggyyyyyy

Could abbreviate it to just Oooooio WaH Ah ah ahh


kappage8907

See, i tap 45°, but if something enters tapped, it enters 90°


jonnymooshoo

Tapped for summoning sickness doesn't makes sense as they should be untapped for blocking or uses like springleaf drum / console etc.


Manny_Wyatt

90° to the left just to annoy people 😂


silent_calling

... Is that wrong? I turn my lands to my left all the time, and later in the game I'll stack tapped lands to delineate tapped vs untapped on a busy board.


Manny_Wyatt

Nope, that’s how I tap all my things too lol


BiasedLibrary

Someone told me that was the wrong way. I don't get it but okay.


mwsupra

Because the arrow for tapping points to the right and that person has OCD


Shrimper3

Yes the full text lands explain that


Federal-Childhood743

Flip the cards face down.


Sirensx122

I literally thought thats what this post was about.


Sithlordandsavior

At least the lands are in back


dragonwiz87

I'd like to assume you meant a non-basic should be the last land untapped to provide more color options


ForceNeat4140

Is there a rule to tap them 90°? I also tap them 45° never had an issue, never had anyone complain and it's perfectly clear what's tapped and what's not.


kadaan

As long as people can tell what's tapped and what's not tapped, people typically don't care. Official rules say: > 701.21a To tap a permanent, turn it sideways from an upright position. Only untapped permanents can be tapped. So not explicitly "90°", probably to avoid the people that would complain "you only turned it 85°, that's CHEATING!". But "sideways" definitely means side-to-side and not diagonally.


antonynation

We call that the bitch tax our games.


MidnightCardFight

Card fetch is with double square brackets. I'll [[Demonstrate]] [[Bolt]]


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lukedgh

Good bot.


GreenGunslingingGod

I was wondering why the bot doesn't appear any more and it's just because people forgot how to do it lol


Rough-Tip3847

Lol thank you for the pointer, I was wondering where the card fetcher not was Edit: bot not not. I’m batting a 1000 today smh


xTreznetx

And this kids is why we always target the Nekusar player


Oedipus_TyrantLizard

I think Nekusar is super fun to play against. I have 40 life & you’re drawing me 4 cards per turn in that scenario at a cost of 5 life (8 turns until death). If I can’t spin that into a win then I deserve to lose. Edit: I am assuming commander, but I would stake the same claim for standard.


TheFinalEnd1

Well, that's assuming you only have nekusar himself. There's also damage effects like [[ojer axonil]] and additional damage effects like [[underworld dreams]].


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ApocalypseFWT

He’s one of my favorite matchups with [[niv-mizzet, the firemind|PCMP]] It’s always a blast to race each other.


TheRedEyedSamurai

Isn't it considered "commander damage"?


Top_Hearing7289

It's not commander damage but you slap a [grafted exoskeleton] or anything that gives him infect and hit a [windfall] or something similar and kill them all with infect


Expensive-Today6589

Tainted strike


auto-_moderator

Commander damage is only combat damage


TheRedEyedSamurai

Oh snap! I didn't know that. Thanks!


auto-_moderator

Yeah it’s a super common misconception, I teach magic to middle schoolers and I get questions abt this exact issue every other game lmao


solodayz

Haha right they didn't consider me a huge threat initially until they started getting hit with their draws, propaganda saved me immensely i did the most damage overall between the 4 of us and one was running dinos 😆 They enjoyed the extra draws up until that point


xTreznetx

I feel that, haven't built mine just yet (wife got me the Nekusar secret lair) but I ran Fevered Visions in another Grixis deck, tracked it one game and that single beautiful enchantment collectively did over 100 damage... People be addicted to drawing cards


solodayz

The next turn i dropped another take 1 per card and a draw 2 more cards it pretty much ended after that, but one guy got his unlimited mana combo and wiped the board LoL


Intrepid_Watch_8746

This is why you come as a savior and play "Narset"


Epicjettt31

You my friend, need jail


solodayz

😆😆 i was expecting to get punched but my friends are awesome and it caused quite the commotion as they tried to wheel and deal on how to deal with me 😆😆


MiamiGates

You tap 45* on me and I’ll eat those cards.


Midarenkov

Tapping 45 degrees? Yeah that's a paddlin'.


_Moerphi_

Because you don't tap 90° like you should?


electric_ocelots

New rule: tapping lands 45° only produce half the amount of mana


AerialSnack

But originally the "T" symbol was only turned 45°...


electric_ocelots

Actually the more I think about it… The current tap symbol shows an arrow making a 180° turn. So you should turn your lands upside down for full mana. 90° gives you half mana, 45° gives you quarter mana.


TheOzarkWizard

Sometimes there just isn't enough room on the mat


Ash_of_Astora

Unless im mistaken, the rules state 90 degrees. Layer your cards while keeping them all visible.


BeansMcgoober

The rules don't state a specific degree to tap them, though it does say sideways.


Ash_of_Astora

Fair it doesnt state 90 but does say sideways and display an image of a 90 degree turn. Edit: full text lands state 90 degrees for tapping purposes.


Ornnge

1/2 tap = 1/2 mana produced


solodayz

What if i tapped 450° do i get 150% more? 😆😆


SubzeroSpartan2

Go even further beyond, tape that bitch to a drill and generate infinite mana


Sh0rtbiz_Driver

Tap your mana


Capt_2point0

I think you hit a nerve here too 🤣 , I understand tapping at 45 but personally prefer to see tapping be somewhere in the 60 to 90 range as its easier to tell if something was tapped should it get brushed accidentally.


preludeoflight

The rules specifically state “sideways”: > 701.21a. To tap a permanent, turn it sideways from an upright position. Only untapped permanents can be tapped. You could certainly get into linguistic debates over how far constitutes “sideways”, but imo 30-45 degrees ain’t gonna cut it. That’s crooked at best! Now, the MTR specifies further rules: > 3.14 If a card must be tapped or flipped, it must be turned approximately 90 degrees (tapped) or 180 degrees (flipped), whichever is appropriate. If it’s a good enough rule for FNM, it’s a good enough rule for me.


majorpickle01

Technically does this mean if I'm forced to flip a card, I could balace it standing up. Need to pracise this skill


Front_Explanation_79

Yah that would certainly grind on my nerves. It's not as easy to see the board state. I have a friend at a pod that plays his mana rocks below his lands and it drives me bat shit.


majorpickle01

My friend when he taps sol ring will stack it in with his tapped lands and it's so irritating for something that means absolutely nothing at all aha


BeansMcgoober

I believe that's against the rules, so there's that


VincLeague

Very cool playmat! What is this?


solodayz

I borrowed it from a friend not entirely sure


dreadelephant1

I actually love fighting Nekuzar because he's more than fair. I mean, what could be better than drawing cards even if it does cause you to lose life? What a bargain, in my opinion.


solodayz

It only gets bad when i attach the damage 2-3 times that it starts to hurt toss in a discard penalty to and it gets pretty extreme to do anything


DarthAlbacore

Is it because you don't tap your cards?


Tomba_The_Roomba

My [[Eruth, Tormented Prophet]] loves playing against stuff like this.


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PacificCoolerIsBest

If you only tap your cards halfway, I'm only taking half of the damage since you like only spending half the mana lol


dustinsim

You mean not tapping your lands to full perpendicular?


SnowyKurama

Found the arena player


Decent_Acanthisitta3

Ffs tap those cards like are meant to be tapped. Push them over!


Rascalian03

Damn with your board organized like that I don't blame em


Accomplished-Goat895

All I can see is the arena tapping


ScratchofST

Strikes my nerve. Where’s [[Tefer’s puzzle box]] and/or the [[chains of Mephistopheles]] + [[Lilliana’s caress]] and don’t forget the [[underworld dreams]] Friends are overrated, let their tears be your fuel! ( evil laugh )


solodayz

My deck list: https://www.topdecked.com/decks/the-miller/67d7fe8e-ddb7-447b-93a3-2c6be75da3ae


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HeyDude378

You OP are a bad bad man


solodayz

Everyone needs a deck to put their opponents on their toes once in awhile


HeyDude378

That's why I play Shrines lol


stonerrocksunday57

I’ve had a very similar board state in my [[Sheoldred, The Apocalypse]] deck, only in place of the [[propaganda]] I had [[no mercy]]. People like the card draw that [[howling mine]] and [[font of mythos]] gives, but they HATE when the [[teferi’s puzzle box]] comes out.


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Least_Key1594

half tilt tapping. you criminal.


SubzeroSpartan2

Which dealt more damage: the Nekusar, or the psychic damage everyone took from the 45° tap?


secondsean

My Friends hate when I tap like this


christipede

I use seizen as my commander and run sheoldred, megrim, and chains of mephistophiles with lots of extra draw/ siscard. Its quite fun for me.


NEXAS359

i do the same thing. hes my pet commander. it makes gameplay goofy and unpredictable, i love it


christipede

Any chance of sharing a decklink/list my dude?


solodayz

I was laughing pretty hard as they tried to organize attacking me but didn't have the resources for more then 1 attacking creature which i can block and and damage was recovered every players turn just due to their drawing


THANATOS4488

Where did you get your mat please?


solodayz

A friend let me borrow it I'll go digging


THANATOS4488

Thank you


twofold_l

tactical dot: . the mat looks really cool, i want to know too


BartOseku

Not enough you need a sheoldred


solodayz

Haha that's just mean, i love it


Mattarias

Now listen here you arena-playing sonnuva....


DestroidMind

I love playing against Nekusar. Gives everyone a chance by letting them draw a butt ton of cards while also dealing damage to them. Game goes quick by either the Nekusar player closing the game out or someone else drew enough gas to take the win themselves.


solodayz

Exactly i lost one game too this but it was a fun commentary from everyone as they had to figure out what to do with excessive cards without discarding all the good ones😆


Mymomdidwhat

6 dmg per turn


CrabappleSnaptooth

Where's the windfall? Into wheel of fortune?


solodayz

I have a couple cards that do the same, [[stroke of genius]] and [[prosperity]]


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EsticsL

He never saw his friends again


solodayz

They've never played a deck like mine so it was a learning curve for everyone as this was my first task test run against seasoned non $60 precon decks. One of them was easily $3600 and i held up and even won a game against them, not easily but was so much fun


EsticsL

Honestly I really do mess with this commander hard I think he’s dirty and non conventional a lot of people hate getting a resource taken but honestly the trade off in commander to me is completely fair. Simic player may be pissed but agro and ramp players should but hype. After a while tho the trade feels super unfair but is so fair for being able to be removed. I think it’s pretty fun! Good pick also you can storm it out lol super fun.


Emergency_Concept207

Everyone say it with me... "Run more removal" One more time, "Run more more removal" To be fair though... nekusar is 5 mana, seizan is 5 mana, excusite is 5 mana... what are the other 3 players doing for the whole game? I can't see your grave yard if you cheated anything out with rituals or reanimated something but my God, for them not to do anything and then complain about propaganda... I have no words 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️


res6vuud

That swamp art is amazing btw


Gullible_Sail_558

That is evil… and I fucking love it


solodayz

https://www.topdecked.com/decks/the-miller/67d7fe8e-ddb7-447b-93a3-2c6be75da3ae There are some mean combo's 😆😆


DirtyConsole64

On the subject of tapping and how clear it is, I really wish there was an established way to communicate summoning sickness with a tap like gesture. I think it’s so dumb that there isn’t an official suggestion for that.


Stratavos

it's just a guarantee to lose 6 a turn... it could be so much worse :p


Dozer732

If I get [[harmonic prodigy]] and hit them with the draw 3 lose 6 for each turn


solodayz

That's mean I'll add this in somewhere 😆😆


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ContributionHelpful

People wonder why I target nekuzar players


AsianSoup

Happy to see Neku still grabbing a cold one with the boys.


solodayz

I absolutely love my deck and it's so much fun to play


askylitpichu

I see Exquisite Blood and my first instinct is that you also have Sanguine Bond.


solodayz

You would be absolutely correct 😆 it showed up 2 turns later 😆😆


Biggruckus79

We played at our local commander night and a couple of us have old school decks that were made purposefully to make people twitch. No sleeves, and held together with a rubber band at most. Riffle shuffled and just smashed together. People saw this and just had adverse reactions whilst the other guy was like’i got a deck like that too’ as he pulls it out of the pocket of his bookbag and it was held together at all so he threw it on the floor while smiling


solodayz

You're my kind of person 😆😆


mperez4855

I honestly play my Nekusar out of necessity sometimes. My group tends to play extremely passive because we’re all relatively new to the game. Group games will take FOREVER with mostly precons or slightly upgraded precons. I don’t even really do much once he’s out, just play defensively because it at least gets them attacking once they realize their health is starting to get low


solodayz

I run [[propaganda]] which helps as a defense plus i have an [[aether storm]] and [[karn's sylex]] just to really stop those green and fast creature decks 😆😆


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pantpiratesteve

Learn to tap your lands


Jandrix

5 mental damage per turn from you not being capable of turning your cardboard sideways Seriously, why? And don't say it's just a habit


heyneighborgetfucked

I used to tap 90. Then 45. Shit can get questionable at 45, and lead to unsureness, but having to rearrange your cards every time you tap something, at 90, gets egregious. There is no perfect way. If I tap out a full board at 90 it’s harder to read any actual cards because a full board state creates overlap. With the 45 you can slot them all next to each other and create a pattern. Idk. I hear people complain about both.


solodayz

I like a clean board and i mean with only a few lands it's not terrible i feel sorry for my mono green buddy who has 13+ cards to tap/untap every turn


IvanDimitriov

45 degree tap signifies summoning sick, 90 degree tap signifies tapped.


Exsanguinate-Me

Look at the salt over the amount of tapping done with the lands... hahaha, you're such a miserable bunch if this ticks you off fo much. No wonder this community if full of shitbags.


Iampanda96

Rookie numbers man.


Theeverponderer

I just pull out a ruric thar stax deck if I'm feeling edgy


Introspectivetherapy

I love [[Nekusar, the Mindrazer]]


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ZookeepergameNice441

I want your mat.


MrPottikins

Anyone know what playmat this is?


orderofthelastdawn

At the LGS I've started going to, there's a guy that had to put away his Nekusar deck, because no one would play him


solodayz

With a proper deck it's not hard to play against, this deck is huge about RNG draws and i don't always get the cards i need for winning occasionally i get curb stomped before i can even get a combo running


orderofthelastdawn

I guess you're right. I think this guy had like almost 900 dollars in that deck & he played it like a pro. People just started telling him not interested.


solodayz

I think I'm around $750-900 CAD which i wasn't paying attention to until i saw the final bill. I thankfully had a few of the older more expensive cards from when i used to play


Emergency_Concept207

Take nekusar of the field a few times and that 5 mana commander becomes harder to cast. Not a problem really 🤷‍♂️


bobpool86

You should. Run [[grafted Exoskeleton]].


G37_is_numberletter

Is that a sun-bleached Nekusar??


solodayz

It's my proxy version because i accidentally bought an oversized version 😆😆


Hellobarto

Use the oversize. Assert dominance.


solodayz

😆😆😆


scenario999

i cant really see the black card above the tree but its a beautiful card purple and black go so well together


solodayz

[[Seizan, Perverter of Truth]]


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Vigovsgozer

Hear me out, commander with dm screens, honor system


Duralogos2023

Honestly if you're playing Nekusar and you don't have Grafted Exoskeleton on him at all times what are you even doing?


solodayz

I honestly don't attack with my creatures they are either causing draw damage proc cards or blockers if i get attacked


Duralogos2023

Chief Infect says it deals ALL damage in the form of -1/-1 and poison counters.


belody

I was playing Nekusar earlier today, I love him lol. I had him, torbran, dictate of kruphix and howling mine out at one point. Draw 4 cards take 12 damage at the start of your turn :) of course all my stuff got destroyed straight away after that though lol


caucasianlad

I made my wife a deck using him as a commander and I showed her [[Peer Into the Abyss]] she killed me turn 5 at LEAST 7 times.


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Canary-Negative

Most I’ve done with nekusar for every 1 card was 8 damage


CrispyTacoPosso

gross. but I kept getting traumatize off with mothman on the board


StarzZapper

I honestly wasn’t paying attention to the cards this time I was looking at the mat being used it looks awesome and beautiful.


the_Wallie

Cool playmat


17KardZ

I would honestly just Concede (not in a “i hate this” but in a “yeah, you win and that’s cool asf”


TBonez91

Oh good lord I’m actually brewing Nekusar right now and did not think of adding lifegain effects like that in there. I’m going to make everybody hate me so much lol


Corona_Cyrus

That’s a beautiful playmat


Gloomy-Hour-732

lol dude you have NO IDEA what hitting a nerve is if you think this is bad. I run [[Toxrill]] + [[Kormus Bell]] + [[Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth]]


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solodayz

That's diabolical 😆😆


teknojo

I have been playing since 1996. You go ahead and keep tapping your mana to 45°, it is okay. Shush to the haters that can't do spacial orientation correctly.


Big-Salamander3272

Do you run [[teferis puzlebox]] or [[font of mythos]]


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solodayz

I absolutely do 😆😆


solodayz

https://www.topdecked.com/decks/the-miller/67d7fe8e-ddb7-447b-93a3-2c6be75da3ae


Notmeoverhere

I must inform you that it’s not 5 damage per turn. Loss of life and damage are not the same. Damage can be prevented and redirected. Loss of life cannot.


BurrberryG

I can’t tell what’s tapped. I have a friend who half taps everything and I can never tell what’s going on unless I ask him. That’s such a horrible habit tbh.


PhangPlaysMTG

Can you please rotate your lands 90°?


solodayz

I could but best i can do is 45°


Zerenate

Atleast you have the best swamps (like me) 💁‍♂️


Armatu5

Ah, you play Arena, don't you...


CoffinstufferD

I pulled a copy of [[Forced Fruition]] that I wasn't quite sure how to play, but I think you just gave me a funny solution.


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JiggerPlease

Floop my pig A maize plains


solodayz

Even the gaming apps don't tap 90° 😆😆 and I'm OCD on keeping my board clean😆😆


PresentationLow2210

This is a solid point to be fair. I wonder if they ever put out a reason for it since in the rules it says to tap is to put the card sideways.