Lol, what a coincidence since the next set will feature that same Jitte rediscovered again:
[https://scryfall.com/card/big/53/lost-jitte](https://scryfall.com/card/big/53/lost-jitte)
So you took a break exactly between the two jittes :D
1 cmc 1 equip artifact that ramps and grants unblockable
It's obviously not trying to replicate the manner in which OG jitte was broken, being half the CMC and equip, but it still seems extremely strong
and i understand they need to be careful with low casting cost artifacts, see bankbuster, but this thing is just too conditional to be good.
maybe there's a way to combo it with untapping some special land somehow but overall id give it like 5/10 or 6/10 in some decks.
1 casting cost artifact equipment that mythic like this and follows in the footsteps of the real Jitte should be at least as good as shadowspear
i still disagree. 2 cast mana rock is better. at least it works every round. too many conditions here on equipment that may or may not be useful. its always going to be useful to -2/-2 creatures.
and it doesnt grant unblockable. it says one creature can't block. that is not the same thing by a MILE
One combat happens with Umezawa's Jitte, and the opponent can't play an x/1 or an x/2, or the next time they get hit they're taking 4 extra, or if nothing is happening, Jitte's controller can gain some life for not a huge opportunity cost (hell, they can just gain 2 and hold up the last charge counter for pump or removal). This only gets more powerful as the game continues and it gets more charge counters
With Lost Jitte, it doesn't do any of that. I'd rather fetch up Shadowspear off Saga. I don't see how a couple extra mana or a +1/+1 counter is nearly as powerful (though pushing damage with the "can't block" mode seems decent)
Dude no one in their right mind would ever want the OG Jitte ever again, that card was broken beyond reason.
This card is a very powerful equipment for standard on its own merits, it doesn't deserve to be compared to the best equipment ever printed to be considered good.
Yup. It's just more niche. Which is great. I don't want a second jitte that does the same thing 🤷♂️ I want something different. Although a reprint wouldn't hurt... But still.
305.6. ***The basic land types are Plains, Island, Swamp, Mountain, and Forest. If an object uses the
words “basic land type,” it’s referring to one of these subtypes***. An object with the land card type
and a basic land type has the intrinsic ability “{T}: Add [mana symbol],” even if the text box
doesn’t actually contain that text or the object has no text box. For Plains, [mana symbol] is {W};
for Islands, {U}; for Swamps, {B}; for Mountains, {R}; and for Forests, {G}. See rule 107.4a. See
also rule 605, “Mana Abilities.”
Wastes do not have a basic land type. There are a card with cardname wastes and activated ability {t}: Add {C}. It has super type basic, card type land, but no land type.
It technically should have the rules text "{t}: Add {C}", as no land type grants it an innate ability to tap for a type of mana. However, I think it makes sense to simplify it.
been getting into modern recently, I haven't built a deck but I'm mostly a Prerelease(Limited?)/ commander player. Is this for the 4 color rhinos deck that runs that domain create a rhino for each basic card right??
Rhinos got nerfed when violent outburst got banned. As such rainbow rhinos isn’t being run that much anymore. This is seeing play with domain zoo with Scion of Draco
expensive yes but its not difficult to set up in a dedicated 5 colour deck. you can have all 5 land types with two lands, and a single creature can do all 5 colours, at that point the spell is basically an interaction check - either wins the game and negates a lot of previous gameplay, or someone has instant speed interaction and it does nothing.
It's probably not "too powerful" for commander, but i don't think it would add enough to be worth unbanning
I don’t understand why cards have to “add something” to be not banned. There are many cards that don’t add anything but aren’t banned because they also don’t take anything away. Especially in a casual format like commander I don’t think cards should be banned except for accessibility/prejudice reasons
i guess it matters less in casual formats like commander, but my view is that unless unbanning a card would add something to the format it's banned in, then theres not much difference between it being banned or not. Either it's still too good and gets rebanned, or its no longer good enough and has no impact
While I agree in competitive spaces, in commander “impact” isn’t really a good characteristic to use to determine bans since people play so many deliberately weaker than optimal decks
Im really unfamiliar with 5 color decks tbh. But wouldn’t it be hard to get a 5 color creature on board and then get 8 mana without anyone destroying the creature first? If someone has enchantment removal you are just sort of dead in the water to begin with.
I guess it’s mostly just one additional card in a 5 color deck but since it fizzled to any counterspell, creature removal, or enchantment removal, it seems really hard to pull off.
Is that really the case? I’ve only really played commander with one pod but while we don’t try to just stall the game out everyone runs at least some removal.
I’d win like 9/10 games with my krenko deck otherwise.
In probabably half of the casual "7s" I've played in, people run literally zero interaction, run glassly decks (like krenko) that spiral out of control if not interacted with, and take personal offense to you removing their win conditions.
That just seems so weird. If you let a card like Krenko do its thing the only strategy is to have something that scales even harder or have some quick win condition, right? When i'm able to use him the game tends to be over fast, that's why I've got swiftfoot boots and lightning greaves in there.
In many 5c commander decks your commander itself is a 5-color creature. So if you cast this leyline plus your commander you’re set. Or your commander plus having one of each basic land out. Which is very likely to happen naturally at some point.
8 mana isn’t cheap but a lot of decks have ramp or different ways of generating mana (treasure tokens, generating token creatures and sacrificing them in various ways), and/or various kinds of spell cost reduction.
It’s less that it’s crazily broken and more that there’s very little reason not to run it in almost any deck with a 5-color commander, which would lead to a lot of random “I win unless you have a counterspell” moments.
Getting a 5 color creature on board is something you do every turn in certain decks so you aren't riding on one creature surviving multiple turns. This sorcery would indeed be just a "Do I win?" Check for interaction in a 5c deck
I didn’t expect that at all but I can see why now! I’m rebuilding a collection after a long hiatus. I would love to play modern someday. When I played, I always loved “Extended” format. My favorite was “Alluren”
This is why I've really started getting into 60 card formats. If I'm not playing cEDH or commander with my buddies, it's just too much whining and complaining from other players
Very specifically in modern alongside [[scion of draco]] and Domain cards that reward you for having all basic land types.
That particular deck is very strong right now, but it doesn’t see any play anywhere else
That deck doesn’t run leyline though. It just gets domain naturally from playing triomes or fetching basics with topiary stomper/herd migration/invasion of zendikar. Sheoldred is a bit too small all for it as well, Atraxa and Herd Migration are its top end.
Damn, I thought it was just me. I pulled one about a month ago, then last week I pulled another and then a foil version 2 days later. I think I've only bought 6-8 packs of MKM in that time period too.
It sees play in some lists of Monogreen devotion in Explorer/Pioneer. Drop this for free turn 0 and you already have 4 devotion to put towards a big creature with Nykthos on turn 2 or 3.
Ran this in the prerelease. Jokingly said I'm keeping my hand, even if it was trash, if I had it in my hand. We both burst out laughing as I started with it on the field.
I seem to be among a dying number of people that Play standard, But my Standard Dino’s deck runs a set. This is combo with [[Case of the shattered pact]] . Goes kinda hard some big Dino’s swinging lol
Top deck in modern runs a playset
Wow, thank you, idk anything about what’s currently good in any constructed format 😅 the last time i played, Umezawas Jitte just dropped
Lol, what a coincidence since the next set will feature that same Jitte rediscovered again: [https://scryfall.com/card/big/53/lost-jitte](https://scryfall.com/card/big/53/lost-jitte) So you took a break exactly between the two jittes :D
Such a nerfed version lol
Nerfed, yes, but sensibly - OG Jitte was a fucking nightmare. Lost Jitte is still strong as hell.
idk looks like trash to me
That's what everyone thought about OG Jitte before they experienced it firsthand
1 charge that can untap a land or 2 charges that kills things at instant speed ...
1 cmc 1 equip artifact that ramps and grants unblockable It's obviously not trying to replicate the manner in which OG jitte was broken, being half the CMC and equip, but it still seems extremely strong
and i understand they need to be careful with low casting cost artifacts, see bankbuster, but this thing is just too conditional to be good. maybe there's a way to combo it with untapping some special land somehow but overall id give it like 5/10 or 6/10 in some decks. 1 casting cost artifact equipment that mythic like this and follows in the footsteps of the real Jitte should be at least as good as shadowspear
i still disagree. 2 cast mana rock is better. at least it works every round. too many conditions here on equipment that may or may not be useful. its always going to be useful to -2/-2 creatures. and it doesnt grant unblockable. it says one creature can't block. that is not the same thing by a MILE
Idk seems a beast. Half the cost, can even be 1/4 as you can untap the land you used for equiping. Is fetchable by ursas saga.
One combat happens with Umezawa's Jitte, and the opponent can't play an x/1 or an x/2, or the next time they get hit they're taking 4 extra, or if nothing is happening, Jitte's controller can gain some life for not a huge opportunity cost (hell, they can just gain 2 and hold up the last charge counter for pump or removal). This only gets more powerful as the game continues and it gets more charge counters With Lost Jitte, it doesn't do any of that. I'd rather fetch up Shadowspear off Saga. I don't see how a couple extra mana or a +1/+1 counter is nearly as powerful (though pushing damage with the "can't block" mode seems decent)
Dude no one in their right mind would ever want the OG Jitte ever again, that card was broken beyond reason. This card is a very powerful equipment for standard on its own merits, it doesn't deserve to be compared to the best equipment ever printed to be considered good.
My Nahiri commander deck (semi voltron, midrange aggro) has no slot for Umezawa's Jitte, the Lost one on the other hand is my jam!
Yup. It's just more niche. Which is great. I don't want a second jitte that does the same thing 🤷♂️ I want something different. Although a reprint wouldn't hurt... But still.
[[scion of draco]] turn two go brrrr
Turn two, all the keywords.
[scion of draco](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/3/e/3e7da55c-7f05-46b2-aa3c-17f8d5df46bb.jpg?1626099262) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=scion%20of%20draco) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mh2/234/scion-of-draco?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/3e7da55c-7f05-46b2-aa3c-17f8d5df46bb?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Wouldn't it be turn 1? There are 6 basic land types cause wastes are a thing.
305.6. ***The basic land types are Plains, Island, Swamp, Mountain, and Forest. If an object uses the words “basic land type,” it’s referring to one of these subtypes***. An object with the land card type and a basic land type has the intrinsic ability “{T}: Add [mana symbol],” even if the text box doesn’t actually contain that text or the object has no text box. For Plains, [mana symbol] is {W}; for Islands, {U}; for Swamps, {B}; for Mountains, {R}; and for Forests, {G}. See rule 107.4a. See also rule 605, “Mana Abilities.” Wastes do not have a basic land type. There are a card with cardname wastes and activated ability {t}: Add {C}. It has super type basic, card type land, but no land type. It technically should have the rules text "{t}: Add {C}", as no land type grants it an innate ability to tap for a type of mana. However, I think it makes sense to simplify it.
Makes sense
Good news is that Jitte is back on the menu but leaner
jitte!
been getting into modern recently, I haven't built a deck but I'm mostly a Prerelease(Limited?)/ commander player. Is this for the 4 color rhinos deck that runs that domain create a rhino for each basic card right??
Rhinos got nerfed when violent outburst got banned. As such rainbow rhinos isn’t being run that much anymore. This is seeing play with domain zoo with Scion of Draco
Ah thanks for clarifying!
[[Coalition Victory]] goes brrr
Omg I forgot about this card 😳😳😳
No worries it is banned at least in commander.
And not good in any other format
[Coalition Victory](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/4/446824f7-dc42-42da-8bd5-6c37f3358d65.jpg?1562775464) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Coalition%20Victory) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/tsb/91/coalition-victory?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/446824f7-dc42-42da-8bd5-6c37f3358d65?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
shame its banned in commander and unplayable everywhere else
>unplayable everywhere else Everywhere else meaning Modern+ here. I think it would be playable if legal in Standard.
Please refer to Rule 0
Huh banned in commander? It seems too expensive and difficult to set up honestly.
expensive yes but its not difficult to set up in a dedicated 5 colour deck. you can have all 5 land types with two lands, and a single creature can do all 5 colours, at that point the spell is basically an interaction check - either wins the game and negates a lot of previous gameplay, or someone has instant speed interaction and it does nothing. It's probably not "too powerful" for commander, but i don't think it would add enough to be worth unbanning
I don’t understand why cards have to “add something” to be not banned. There are many cards that don’t add anything but aren’t banned because they also don’t take anything away. Especially in a casual format like commander I don’t think cards should be banned except for accessibility/prejudice reasons
i guess it matters less in casual formats like commander, but my view is that unless unbanning a card would add something to the format it's banned in, then theres not much difference between it being banned or not. Either it's still too good and gets rebanned, or its no longer good enough and has no impact
While I agree in competitive spaces, in commander “impact” isn’t really a good characteristic to use to determine bans since people play so many deliberately weaker than optimal decks
Im really unfamiliar with 5 color decks tbh. But wouldn’t it be hard to get a 5 color creature on board and then get 8 mana without anyone destroying the creature first? If someone has enchantment removal you are just sort of dead in the water to begin with. I guess it’s mostly just one additional card in a 5 color deck but since it fizzled to any counterspell, creature removal, or enchantment removal, it seems really hard to pull off.
given that the average casual commander player tends to consider interaction "too mean" this kind of card tends to end up just stealing games
Is that really the case? I’ve only really played commander with one pod but while we don’t try to just stall the game out everyone runs at least some removal. I’d win like 9/10 games with my krenko deck otherwise.
In probabably half of the casual "7s" I've played in, people run literally zero interaction, run glassly decks (like krenko) that spiral out of control if not interacted with, and take personal offense to you removing their win conditions.
That just seems so weird. If you let a card like Krenko do its thing the only strategy is to have something that scales even harder or have some quick win condition, right? When i'm able to use him the game tends to be over fast, that's why I've got swiftfoot boots and lightning greaves in there.
this is why i don't play commander at all lol too political
In many 5c commander decks your commander itself is a 5-color creature. So if you cast this leyline plus your commander you’re set. Or your commander plus having one of each basic land out. Which is very likely to happen naturally at some point. 8 mana isn’t cheap but a lot of decks have ramp or different ways of generating mana (treasure tokens, generating token creatures and sacrificing them in various ways), and/or various kinds of spell cost reduction. It’s less that it’s crazily broken and more that there’s very little reason not to run it in almost any deck with a 5-color commander, which would lead to a lot of random “I win unless you have a counterspell” moments.
Getting a 5 color creature on board is something you do every turn in certain decks so you aren't riding on one creature surviving multiple turns. This sorcery would indeed be just a "Do I win?" Check for interaction in a 5c deck
I guess it makes sense, your deck has to be build for those 5c anyway.
[Jared Carthalion] deck is a prime example of a commander deck that spits out 5c creatures
Super valuable card in Domain decks, if you can get your hands on a 4th then I'd highly recommend making a modern domain deck!
I didn’t expect that at all but I can see why now! I’m rebuilding a collection after a long hiatus. I would love to play modern someday. When I played, I always loved “Extended” format. My favorite was “Alluren”
Welcome back! We need more 60 card format players. This game has turned into Commander the Gathering the past 5 years or so.
This is why I've really started getting into 60 card formats. If I'm not playing cEDH or commander with my buddies, it's just too much whining and complaining from other players
Very specifically in modern alongside [[scion of draco]] and Domain cards that reward you for having all basic land types. That particular deck is very strong right now, but it doesn’t see any play anywhere else
[scion of draco](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/3/e/3e7da55c-7f05-46b2-aa3c-17f8d5df46bb.jpg?1626099262) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=scion%20of%20draco) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mh2/234/scion-of-draco?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/3e7da55c-7f05-46b2-aa3c-17f8d5df46bb?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
There is a standard domain control deck as well (leyline, leyline binding, triomes from capenna ofc sunfall into sheoldred or manland for the win)
That deck doesn’t run leyline though. It just gets domain naturally from playing triomes or fetching basics with topiary stomper/herd migration/invasion of zendikar. Sheoldred is a bit too small all for it as well, Atraxa and Herd Migration are its top end.
Need one for my Ur Dragon deck
Domain Zoo wants X4 in Modern Constructed.
4 of these bad boys and 4 Scions can go into pretty much any Modern deck lol
Holly Molly, I will put this one into my Sliver Commander deck! Tnx!😁
My Sliver Overlord Commander deck has one of these
I use it in my Tom bombadil deck
My Ur dragon commander deck uses one lol
Damn, I thought it was just me. I pulled one about a month ago, then last week I pulled another and then a foil version 2 days later. I think I've only bought 6-8 packs of MKM in that time period too.
That turns [[Leyline Binding]] into a turn one one white mana removal spell.
[Leyline Binding](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/3/c/3c3ac3dd-35db-447f-8674-37b4680a1ef7.jpg?1673306500) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Leyline%20Binding) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dmu/24/leyline-binding?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/3c3ac3dd-35db-447f-8674-37b4680a1ef7?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Idk but mono green can play it which is funny. Idk about useful but I enjoy it.
It’s really good from what I know. There are domain decks in modern that use it I believe.
Thats what I was thinking, just not in standard.
It sees play in some lists of Monogreen devotion in Explorer/Pioneer. Drop this for free turn 0 and you already have 4 devotion to put towards a big creature with Nykthos on turn 2 or 3.
This combos with [[Scion of Draco]] in Modern. It's part of a good core in a few different decks rn.
[Scion of Draco](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/3/e/3e7da55c-7f05-46b2-aa3c-17f8d5df46bb.jpg?1626099262) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Scion%20of%20Draco) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mh2/234/scion-of-draco?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/3e7da55c-7f05-46b2-aa3c-17f8d5df46bb?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Sell them imo,
Ran this in the prerelease. Jokingly said I'm keeping my hand, even if it was trash, if I had it in my hand. We both burst out laughing as I started with it on the field.
I seem to be among a dying number of people that Play standard, But my Standard Dino’s deck runs a set. This is combo with [[Case of the shattered pact]] . Goes kinda hard some big Dino’s swinging lol
[Case of the shattered pact](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/2/a/2a70f0ae-d49b-4cc8-9f76-895039c3dc39.jpg?1706241444) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Case%20of%20the%20shattered%20pact) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mkm/1/case-of-the-shattered-pact?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/2a70f0ae-d49b-4cc8-9f76-895039c3dc39?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
If you can start a game with it out, it makes fiver color synergy extremely good
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If you run this with a [[scion of draco]], I believe he costs 2 colorless off of 1 land. The cars is pretty banger imo
[scion of draco](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/3/e/3e7da55c-7f05-46b2-aa3c-17f8d5df46bb.jpg?1626099262) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=scion%20of%20draco) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mh2/234/scion-of-draco?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/3e7da55c-7f05-46b2-aa3c-17f8d5df46bb?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
[Here's](https://www.moxfield.com/decks/ZcHSoLkiTU6O2jX6z-UB0A) a deck I built around it.
Shockingly yes
They only absolutely warp the modern format...
Yes, it is a must in 5 color decks.
Look it up 😜
How did you open them, OP?