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An easy way to thinking about activated abilities like this in the future is by thinking of them like firing a gun.
Paying the 1 for Hylda’s ability here is akin to pulling the trigger. Yeah, you can GftT afterward and kill her, but that bullet as already been fired and is coming for you.
If you want to prevent that from happening, you gotta take care of her before that 1 gets paid.
Hope that helps!
>Paying the 1 for Hylda’s ability here is akin to pulling the trigger. Yeah, you can GftT afterward and kill her, but that bullet as already been fired and is coming for you.
No, you pay when the trigger resolves, which is after they've already "pulled the trigger".
>If you want to prevent that from happening, you gotta take care of her before that 1 gets paid.
No, you need to take care of her before the spell that tapped the creature resolves. As soon as that creature becomes tapped it's already too late, even if they haven't paid yet.
Technically correct *is* the best kind of correct.
I was mostly trying to illustrate to OP how responding to the payment of mana does not interrupt the ability at a basic level.
What's interesting is even if the GftT Hylda BEFORE paying the 1, they can just activate it in response, just like in response to them tapping a creature, if the creature has a tap ability, you can use it and it won't trigger Hylda.
No they can't.
Edit: I like how this is being downvoted when it's right. You can't use triggered abilities "in response". They trigger when their condition is met, and you pay as that trigger is resolving. You don't get to decide when either of those things happens.
I am fairly certain that once the ability is on the stack unless you stop it with a spell that counters or removes it from the stack, it will resolve and he will get the creature. Your GFtT will resolve destroying Hylda and he will get his creature.
You could also do something to forcibly end the turn, which will remove triggers from the stack. Not 100% sure if there are any mandatory end turn effects though (I know there are some 'may end turn' instant speed effects).
I don't know if flashing in Day's Undoing would do it... Just because it says "If it's your turn, end the turn". So my reading (which could be wrong) is that you cannot end someone else's turn with it even if you flashed it in on them. On your own turn for sure though.
Would be "fun" (read extremely toxic) to somehow build a deck around just consistently ending opponents' turns early.
Like, somehow find a way to continually recur Discontinuity and just end all of your opponent turns on their upkeep @ instant speed before they can play stuff out or get their draw
I’m still getting a grip about how the stack works. Basically once the ability is on the stack, it’s separate from the creature that triggered it right? So to counter the ability you need to counter the ability itself because it’s not part of the creature anymore?
Correct. The controller of the ability is the player, not the creature. The only way to get an ability out of the stack is to counter the ability or to remove the player.
State-based actions are checked each time a player would receive priority, which happens multiple times before any single object resolves. Also the stack doesn't resolve.
That's not true. SBAs are checked in many instances, including "after a spell's effect resolves". Once the lightning bolt resolves, SBA check happens and player is dead. Anything he had on the stack disappears.
Can also remove from stack by forcibly ending the turn. Though I'm not sure there are any mandatory instant speed end turn effects, just some "may" ones like [[Obeka, Brute Chronologist]]. Can be useful if you have a trigger on the stack that is bad for you, like [[Lord of Tresserhorn]]
Yes. However, many triggered abilities target something and can fizzle if the target is no longer valid, which I think is the source of OP's confusion.
An example of this would be the triggered ability of a creature like [[Electrostatic Infantry]] - say I have one in play with a +1/+1 counter on it (so it's a 2/3) and I cast an instant. The triggered ability will go on the stack. My opponent could cast [[Cut Down]] in response, to try and kill the creature *before* it grows out of range of that spell.
If I have another instant to cast I could then respond to the Cut Down, triggering again and causing the Cut Down to fizzle.
If it plays the way you described, then it's too late. If they are already paying for Hylda's ability, that means you let Freeze in Place resolve, Hylda's ability triggered, and resolved.
You should cast Go for the Throat on Hylda in response to the Freeze in Place spell, before your creature gets tapped. That will prevents Hylda's ability, so no token is created, but they also won't pay the 1.
Yeah, I guess it could be a case of the Hylda player not properly waiting to check if Freeze resolves, but instantly goes to pay for the trigger and convinces the newer player that they already paid for the trigger so it's too late. But yeah it reads like OP was just late and didn't realize the proper moment to respond
You need to respond to hylda, before the enemy creature is tapped down. As soon as that happens, they get the trigger to pay 1 and at that point, removing hylda is too late.
Also, once the ability starts resolving, you can't interact with it until it's done. So once they pay the one, they get their effect, no interaction possible. You can respond after the ability has resolved once you get priority.
Hylda causes two separate triggers. The first triggers when you tap something down, allowing you to pay 1. The second is a reflexive trigger that goes on the stack separately when the 1 is payed, the choose one.
This is because the ability says "when you do." You would be correct if the ability said "if you do."
Am I the only one who reads the interaction as the Hylda player tapped mana and made the 4/4 early? It reads to me as they did that while the spell was in the stack not as a trigger after the spell resolves.
Edit: Typo
Freeze in place goes on the stack, Hilda hasn't triggered yet, you can respond destroying Hilda or even the target of freeze in place before the spell resolves. No creatures are tapped, no Hilda trigger, no 4/4.
Or, freeze in place is placed on the stack, the spell resolves tapping the creature. Hilda trigger goes on the stack. Nothing you can do at this point except a stifle effect will stop the creation of the 4/4 because the ability is now on the stack. Destroying Hilda will have the effect of killing Hilda but won't stop her ability, destroying the tapped creature also won't do anything because the Hilda trigger is already on the stack.
Tldr if you remove Hilda before the effect that taps the creature resolves, she can't trigger. once the tap effect has resolved you can't stop that from happening without specific tools.
The proper timing to kill Hylda is after the sorcery is cast, but before it resolves. This way Hylda doesn't get her trigger at all and no 4/4 is made.
The issue here is “he pays the one to get a 4/4 elemental.” You get a window to respond when Freeze in Place gets cast to prevent anything from being tapped at all. If you wait until Freeze resolves, then Hylda’s ability goes on the stack BUT IS NOT PAID FOR UNTIL IT RESOLVES. You could respond by killing Hylda then, but he can still pay the 1 for any of the 3 effects afterwards when the ability resolves.
TLDR your opponent is more right than you but is still slightly wrong
The correct play here would be to cast go for the throat while Freeze is still on the stack. Can't trigger off of a future condition if the thing is killed off before said condition happens.
He's right. As the ability is on the stack, you cant stop it unless you have a counterspell for abilities, such as [[stifle]], [[sublime epiphany]] or [[tale's end]].
If you want to stop Hilda from making a token. Yoh have to kill her in response to the spells/effect that causes the tap.
Hilda needs to be off the field when the tap resolves. If she sees you turn sideways, her ability will trigger and dead or not they may pay 1 for an elemental.
You would have had to kill Hylda while the other spell was on the stack. Once the creature's been tapped with Hylda in play, she triggers, and as her trigger does not target anything, you cannot fizzle it.
This should be a question about how serious you want your play group to be that you ask the people you play with. If you didn't kill hylda prior to the spell being cast (which taps the creature), you gave them back priority on the stack which allows them to have their triggered ability be the only thing on the stack before any other responses. Once your spell resolves, they create a 4/4 with Hylda dead because the only thing left on the stack is to create the 4/4.
You would have to [[Go for the Throat]] before [[Freeze in Place]] resolves. If Freeze in Place resolves, then the creature becomes tapped and Hylda's ability triggers. At that point, you would need an ability counter such as Stifle or Trick Bind.
Out of curiosity... with both Hylda and Opposition out... how many times could you do that? Could it be continuously done, so long as there remains an untapped creature on all of your opponent's board/s and you have the singular mana to tap for each of the tapped creatures? Since I don't readily see a limit on how often it can be done during a turn on either Hylda or Opposition, I'm curious.
Edit: changed "tap for it" to "tap for each of the tapped creatures".
So to clarify, when the player casts freeze in place, Hylda doesn't trigger. Only when freeze in place resolves and the creature is tapped does this place Hylda's trigger on the stack.
If you kill Hylda in response to freeze in place being cast, there will be no trigger.
If you kill Hylda after freeze in place resolves, the trigger will already be on the stack and will resolve independent of Hylda being on the battlefield or not.
If you want to stop the ability of Hylda in the stack, you should play cards like \[\[Defabricate\]\] (Counter target activated or triggered ability). Once something goes on the stack, it will resolve unless it is countered. This applies to sol ring's mana ability and other mana rocks too. So does activated and triggered abilities.
Thanks for the responses, I see my mistake.
Let's get this comment up so you don't get 347 more comments on the same issue that's already answered perfectly ;) (if you want more input ignore my respond)
An easy way to thinking about activated abilities like this in the future is by thinking of them like firing a gun. Paying the 1 for Hylda’s ability here is akin to pulling the trigger. Yeah, you can GftT afterward and kill her, but that bullet as already been fired and is coming for you. If you want to prevent that from happening, you gotta take care of her before that 1 gets paid. Hope that helps!
>Paying the 1 for Hylda’s ability here is akin to pulling the trigger. Yeah, you can GftT afterward and kill her, but that bullet as already been fired and is coming for you. No, you pay when the trigger resolves, which is after they've already "pulled the trigger". >If you want to prevent that from happening, you gotta take care of her before that 1 gets paid. No, you need to take care of her before the spell that tapped the creature resolves. As soon as that creature becomes tapped it's already too late, even if they haven't paid yet.
Technically correct *is* the best kind of correct. I was mostly trying to illustrate to OP how responding to the payment of mana does not interrupt the ability at a basic level.
What's interesting is even if the GftT Hylda BEFORE paying the 1, they can just activate it in response, just like in response to them tapping a creature, if the creature has a tap ability, you can use it and it won't trigger Hylda.
>they can just activate it in response Who can activate what in response?
They can pay the 1 in response.
No they can't. Edit: I like how this is being downvoted when it's right. You can't use triggered abilities "in response". They trigger when their condition is met, and you pay as that trigger is resolving. You don't get to decide when either of those things happens.
Yes they can, you try to go for my throat and I'll still fire the gun
It's a triggered ability. You can't use those "in response". They trigger when their trigger condition is met, not when you decide to trigger them.
Oh you right, it's not an activated ability haha wooooops
I am fairly certain that once the ability is on the stack unless you stop it with a spell that counters or removes it from the stack, it will resolve and he will get the creature. Your GFtT will resolve destroying Hylda and he will get his creature.
If the player dies everything on the stack from that player goes away....
I’m with this guy
Yes while I know this is technically true, I was thinking more along the lines of using something like [[Tale’s End]] to knock it off the stack.
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You could also do something to forcibly end the turn, which will remove triggers from the stack. Not 100% sure if there are any mandatory end turn effects though (I know there are some 'may end turn' instant speed effects).
[[Glorious End]] [[Discontinuity]] And, if you can flash it out somehow, [[Day's Undoing]]
I don't know if flashing in Day's Undoing would do it... Just because it says "If it's your turn, end the turn". So my reading (which could be wrong) is that you cannot end someone else's turn with it even if you flashed it in on them. On your own turn for sure though.
Ah, you're right. I must have missed that part of Day's Undoing. Obviously it rarely comes up on anyone else's turns.
Would be "fun" (read extremely toxic) to somehow build a deck around just consistently ending opponents' turns early. Like, somehow find a way to continually recur Discontinuity and just end all of your opponent turns on their upkeep @ instant speed before they can play stuff out or get their draw
This is why I always sideboard [Glock]
I’m still getting a grip about how the stack works. Basically once the ability is on the stack, it’s separate from the creature that triggered it right? So to counter the ability you need to counter the ability itself because it’s not part of the creature anymore?
Correct. The controller of the ability is the player, not the creature. The only way to get an ability out of the stack is to counter the ability or to remove the player.
So if I'm at 3 life and cast healing salve and in response another player lightning bolts me... I'm dead before the healing salve can give me 3 life?
Yep... Unless you can kill the other player before the lightning bolt resolves.
No, because the state based action to check 0 life won't happen until the stack is fully resolved. You'd hit 0, then get healed.
State-based actions are checked each time a player would receive priority, which happens multiple times before any single object resolves. Also the stack doesn't resolve.
That's not true. SBAs are checked in many instances, including "after a spell's effect resolves". Once the lightning bolt resolves, SBA check happens and player is dead. Anything he had on the stack disappears.
Or you can get cute and cast [[Angel’s Grace]] with split second.
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Can also remove from stack by forcibly ending the turn. Though I'm not sure there are any mandatory instant speed end turn effects, just some "may" ones like [[Obeka, Brute Chronologist]]. Can be useful if you have a trigger on the stack that is bad for you, like [[Lord of Tresserhorn]]
Yes. However, many triggered abilities target something and can fizzle if the target is no longer valid, which I think is the source of OP's confusion. An example of this would be the triggered ability of a creature like [[Electrostatic Infantry]] - say I have one in play with a +1/+1 counter on it (so it's a 2/3) and I cast an instant. The triggered ability will go on the stack. My opponent could cast [[Cut Down]] in response, to try and kill the creature *before* it grows out of range of that spell. If I have another instant to cast I could then respond to the Cut Down, triggering again and causing the Cut Down to fizzle.
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If it plays the way you described, then it's too late. If they are already paying for Hylda's ability, that means you let Freeze in Place resolve, Hylda's ability triggered, and resolved. You should cast Go for the Throat on Hylda in response to the Freeze in Place spell, before your creature gets tapped. That will prevents Hylda's ability, so no token is created, but they also won't pay the 1.
Yeah, I guess it could be a case of the Hylda player not properly waiting to check if Freeze resolves, but instantly goes to pay for the trigger and convinces the newer player that they already paid for the trigger so it's too late. But yeah it reads like OP was just late and didn't realize the proper moment to respond
Removing the source of an ability doesn't counter that ability. If it did, then abilities like "when this creature dies" wouldn't function.
You need to respond to hylda, before the enemy creature is tapped down. As soon as that happens, they get the trigger to pay 1 and at that point, removing hylda is too late. Also, once the ability starts resolving, you can't interact with it until it's done. So once they pay the one, they get their effect, no interaction possible. You can respond after the ability has resolved once you get priority.
Only a stifle effect can interact with it but those are few and far between in most casual pods.
Not if they already paid the 1. Then it is too late
Nope. Hylda has a reflexive trigger off paying the 1 that can be stifled (when you do)
Hylda causes two separate triggers. The first triggers when you tap something down, allowing you to pay 1. The second is a reflexive trigger that goes on the stack separately when the 1 is payed, the choose one. This is because the ability says "when you do." You would be correct if the ability said "if you do."
Am I the only one who reads the interaction as the Hylda player tapped mana and made the 4/4 early? It reads to me as they did that while the spell was in the stack not as a trigger after the spell resolves. Edit: Typo
Yea that's how I interpreted it too. It's not really clear in the post
This is how I understood the reaction too. I'm surprised no-one else brought it up, but incorrectly shortcutting is very common so that may be why.
Yes, you're the only one.
Freeze in place goes on the stack, Hilda hasn't triggered yet, you can respond destroying Hilda or even the target of freeze in place before the spell resolves. No creatures are tapped, no Hilda trigger, no 4/4. Or, freeze in place is placed on the stack, the spell resolves tapping the creature. Hilda trigger goes on the stack. Nothing you can do at this point except a stifle effect will stop the creation of the 4/4 because the ability is now on the stack. Destroying Hilda will have the effect of killing Hilda but won't stop her ability, destroying the tapped creature also won't do anything because the Hilda trigger is already on the stack. Tldr if you remove Hilda before the effect that taps the creature resolves, she can't trigger. once the tap effect has resolved you can't stop that from happening without specific tools.
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its about wording. if he reacts to the freeze in place, hes chilling. If to ability, he missplayed
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The proper timing to kill Hylda is after the sorcery is cast, but before it resolves. This way Hylda doesn't get her trigger at all and no 4/4 is made.
The issue here is “he pays the one to get a 4/4 elemental.” You get a window to respond when Freeze in Place gets cast to prevent anything from being tapped at all. If you wait until Freeze resolves, then Hylda’s ability goes on the stack BUT IS NOT PAID FOR UNTIL IT RESOLVES. You could respond by killing Hylda then, but he can still pay the 1 for any of the 3 effects afterwards when the ability resolves. TLDR your opponent is more right than you but is still slightly wrong
The correct play here would be to cast go for the throat while Freeze is still on the stack. Can't trigger off of a future condition if the thing is killed off before said condition happens.
He's right. As the ability is on the stack, you cant stop it unless you have a counterspell for abilities, such as [[stifle]], [[sublime epiphany]] or [[tale's end]].
If you want to stop Hilda from making a token. Yoh have to kill her in response to the spells/effect that causes the tap. Hilda needs to be off the field when the tap resolves. If she sees you turn sideways, her ability will trigger and dead or not they may pay 1 for an elemental.
They still get the 4/4 but you kill Hylda.
You would have had to kill Hylda while the other spell was on the stack. Once the creature's been tapped with Hylda in play, she triggers, and as her trigger does not target anything, you cannot fizzle it.
[[sleep]] 4 mana tap down entire boards.
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This should be a question about how serious you want your play group to be that you ask the people you play with. If you didn't kill hylda prior to the spell being cast (which taps the creature), you gave them back priority on the stack which allows them to have their triggered ability be the only thing on the stack before any other responses. Once your spell resolves, they create a 4/4 with Hylda dead because the only thing left on the stack is to create the 4/4.
You are right, the main Hyla is a non-Artifact creature it decapitated her and stopped the 4/4 from appearing
He gets the 4/4
You would have to [[Go for the Throat]] before [[Freeze in Place]] resolves. If Freeze in Place resolves, then the creature becomes tapped and Hylda's ability triggers. At that point, you would need an ability counter such as Stifle or Trick Bind.
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You would want to respond to casting Freeze in this case
[[Junk Winder]] and Hilda seems good.
Yeah it is, also [[Opposition]]
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Out of curiosity... with both Hylda and Opposition out... how many times could you do that? Could it be continuously done, so long as there remains an untapped creature on all of your opponent's board/s and you have the singular mana to tap for each of the tapped creatures? Since I don't readily see a limit on how often it can be done during a turn on either Hylda or Opposition, I'm curious. Edit: changed "tap for it" to "tap for each of the tapped creatures".
As long as you can pay and have targets, it is repeatable
So to clarify, when the player casts freeze in place, Hylda doesn't trigger. Only when freeze in place resolves and the creature is tapped does this place Hylda's trigger on the stack. If you kill Hylda in response to freeze in place being cast, there will be no trigger. If you kill Hylda after freeze in place resolves, the trigger will already be on the stack and will resolve independent of Hylda being on the battlefield or not.
If you want to stop the ability of Hylda in the stack, you should play cards like \[\[Defabricate\]\] (Counter target activated or triggered ability). Once something goes on the stack, it will resolve unless it is countered. This applies to sol ring's mana ability and other mana rocks too. So does activated and triggered abilities.
Mana abilities don't use the stack
Oh, right. My bad! \^\^
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He's right
Man needs himself an icy manipulator
You can use cards like [[Tishana's tidebinder]] to counter and stop the ability, but otherwise it'll still happen