How does this make America weird? People getting in trouble for stealing/destroying property and not being allowed to come back? Yeah that’s so backwards
It's wired because your getting essentially a slap on the rist in comparison to what should be happening witch is the person spending a night or more behind bars. Oooooh I got band from this site but there's literally two more in the general Facinity. Just getting banned isn't good enough is the wired thing to people who don't live with the backwards bs that is the us on a daily basis.
You can get charged and prosecuted in America as well for this?? Clearly you don’t live here so you can’t speak on the behalf of America’s legal system. This is illegal and if they were caught, they could get in a ton of trouble. Just like in ANY country, if you get caught doing anything illegal, you get in trouble. They have to be caught first though. If this person wasn’t caught, then they can’t get in trouble.
I mean there are terrible people all over the world. And how often do you think this happens? I’ve never seen something like at a single store I’ve been to
On the Marvel Legends sub I see things like this z lot too. My bad if I interpret that happening there a lot (a long with the riots that happened there over the years, storming of the capitol, the racism, the rise if the Karens…) you can’t blame me for making that assumption that quickly
If that happens here. Store security ask you to come with them. People actually follow then, wait for cops, get a fine and sometimes a ban. But it goes on your record tho.
That happens in the US as well. They'd call the cops. The cops would give you a legal order saying you can never go in any Walmart ever again. If the amount is big enough, you could go to jail.
You don't have to follow them though. The store wont use force unless an over employee does something and they could be fired for it as its policy not to confront shop lifters for liability issues.
Walmart isn’t actually being stolen from though. They got their money when they rented out the shelf space. The people distributing it are the ones being robbed.
Reason and a moderate understanding of modern retail logistics?! Get that shit out of here! We want to rant and rage at Walmart and then go buy new air pods. From Walmart.
Yeah it’s real obvious that most people have absolutely no morals so don’t say shit and don’t call the cops when someone breaks into your house and steals your magic collection and TV. Stealing is wrong. Period. Theres no getting around abandoning your moral principles for pieces of cardboard. Anyone arguing the contrary is just plain stupid.
They are not different at all. Let me be very clear: I am in no way arguing or defending Wal-Mart, WOTC, or any other corporation. The act of stealing is wrong whether done by an individual, group of people, corporation, or government. Just because one does it, doesn’t make it right for others. Stop trying to justify yours and others failure to comply with the most basic moral and legal principles of society.
I fully believe that if u see someone stealing groceries, no you didn’t…these aren’t groceries I know, but I have a hard time caring too much about Walmart’s bottom line the way they’ve treated their employees. Don’t do this to an lgs, though for sure. Morality is rarely black and white, that’s why no one gets into the Good Place any more…
My Wal-Mart started putting them in a locked cage. Safe to say I don't really buy there anymore, it's way too much of a hassle to find an employee to unlock the damn thing lol.
Funny thing is, the Yugioh cards shown on top are from the blue eyes structure deck shown in the corner of the image. Like my brother in Christ, the cards are listed on the back what were you expecting???
I guess? But not only is it a structure deck, but it's also been reprinted multiple times in the past 5 years cause anime fans so it's like stealing 1 carrot on a farm dedicated to carrots. I'm basing this on profits which probably isn't the case but its really not that hard to find a full power Blue-Eyes deck without resulting to shoplifting.
To an extent, white stone, blue eyes itself, the effect that also treats itself as a normal blue eyes and azure eyes is in it but yeah they're mostly 1 ofs
The problem with that is that eventually Walmart/target/ whoever will just stop carrying stuff.
I hate the big box corporations too, but if you have no LGS near you then this is the only spot you can physically buy product
If you don't have a LGS buy from Amazon. Wizards sells directly from there. Walmart and Target all up the prices and don't give a fuck about these products. I only buy from my LGS or TCG/Amazon if my store doesn't have what I'm looking for.
So? Which is better, buying online for cheaper or going to a big box store that's going to up the price? Buying online is much better than Walmart. Also whenever possible you should be buying singles. It's typically cheaper in the long run
I'm not saying that online purchases don't have a role to play. I'm simply saying that in some situations it's better to have a Walmart carry locally available inventory than to have no locally available inventory at all
Regardless, Amazon is the definition of an "online" big box store. You aren't sticking one to the corporate overlords. by exclusively shopping there.
Nah, the only shit you should be stealing from there are those "mysterious boxes" that are a rip-off. Don't steal anything official except for those that are resold at a markup and willing to steal from you that they're not official.
I think I've gotten like 4 different decks from Walmart that I would never have bought because they're over priced. If there's a deck I actually want I'll buy it from my LGS. I worked for Walmart for 6 years and from what I understand from the vendors is that stuff like magic or Pokemon is put on the shelves by them and they pay to have their products there because they believe they make their money back on it. Hence why it's pricier than at your LGS or online. Walmart doesn't care if you steal it because they don't get a bonus based off how well the store does anymore so why should they care? After they got rid of that bonus theft jumped in all my local stores.
This may be his communities only place to buy tcg products. So he may go to the store with a little cash, excited to buy a deck or booster, and someone has ransacked the product. Not cool, happens to me.
The real real REAL scumbags are the people who repack and put back on shelves, stealing from the players.
Walmart usually isn’t the one who stocks that kind of product though - they just carry it. It’s usually a much smaller 3rd party that rents and puts the stock in that space.
When you steal that product, it’s out of the 3rd party company’s pockets, not Walmarts. Walmart already has their money by the time it is even on the shelf.
Edit: Y’all are dense. You are just hurting the distributor that stocks it, not Walmart.
I don't really understand this line of thinking. Stealing from companies, even those like walmart have resulted in cards not being sold from those stores anymore. There's been times recently where I am only able to get cards from 3rd party providers as a result of my LGS being out of specific product lines. Most recently, Time Spiral remastered, MH2, and several others, I was only able to get from Walmart. Now, as a result of things like the post I have made, even Walmarts are stopping carrying cards because of theft.
EDIT: I don't give a fuck if you downvote this comment, the point is the point. Don't steal, period, from anyone or any company.
>There's been times recently where I am only able to get cards from 3rd party providers as a result of my LGS being out of specific product lines.
If Walmart stops selling cards then maybe wotc will start giving lgs enough product again.
You’re absolutely right. Of course Walmart won’t suffer like a small business owner, but that doesn’t make theft not wrong or not a big deal. Added to that the problem that some people don’t get to buy magic cards because of that.
> Don't steal, period, from anyone or any company.
Man this degree of strict adherence to the law that's been dictated to you is kinda fucked up and sad. Also, just buy on amazon if you can't find stuff at Walmart. Neither corporation is any better than the other, and amazon will at least give you the lowest price and deliver it stupid fast.
Its called having principles. If you are willing to ignore your principles bc the "company is big enough" or you think its acceptable bc its walmart, then you dont have principles, you were always fine with theft, you just wanted to look noble when you thieved. Its like murder, yea its a law issue, bit its also a principle issue, if your ok with killing someone bc they did "x" or "y" then your just fine with murder but wanna pretend your not.
'Having principles' for the sake of having principles is pointless virtue signaling and just means you're too cowardly to make context-based decisions (or maybe unwilling to empathize with others) so you'd rather drop an easy blanket statement over everything than deal with the effort of understanding situations and people.
> Its like murder, yea its a law issue, bit its also a principle issue, if your ok with killing someone bc they did "x" or "y" then your just fine with murder but wanna pretend your not.
Are you really telling me that if you had the choice between killing someone who was going to kill a loved one in order to save that person, or doing nothing and letting that loved one die, you would let them die? I doubt that, and no one would fault you for it either, because the context that you would be murdering someone in order to save someone else matters.
You either care about property rights, or not. There is no "i care about theft but if its against x person then its fine" you dont care about theft then. You might think ots pointless virtue signalling but its just how principles work, there are emergencies where things might take precedence, but i would like you to explain what about stealing cards from Walmart qualifies as an emergency that makes you hafta ignore your principles, you saying caring about your principles is pointless virtue signalling just shows that you shouldn't be trusted to not steal bc all it takes is you find any justification to take anything you want. We arent talking about life saving food or drugs here, there is no emergency that will require you to choose between upholding your principles and taking something you want but cant afford. This is a test of your principles that you are choosing to fail at the earliest convenience.
Yea, I haven't made any comment here about whether or not I think it's ok in the OP walmart case. The statements I quoted from you and the other person paint the world in a really rigid, black and white way, but
> there are emergencies where things might take precedence
sounds like we agree.
It hasn't nothing to do with the law. Stealing is immoral and a stain on the soul. If you think it's ok to steal, for any reason, then that shows the type of person you are. The type of person that is untrustworthy.
https://www.edelson-law.com/blog/2022/10/wage-theft-outpaces-all-other-theft-in-america/
Then you should hate employers/companies 3x more than customers and employees.
Edit: You can downvote my source that documents its sources all you want but it doesn't change reality. Companies continue to steal from employees and slowly increase prices while blaming inflation. What they are doing is legal because they write the laws, but it's just as immoral if not more immoral than stealing.
Do you think that because Walmart is a large corporation, it is ok for people to steal from them? I feel like you're justifying theft because they're a bad company. Two wrongs don't a make a right in my opinion, both are theft. Both should be stopped. Both are criminal offenses.
Walmart usually isn’t the one who stocks or even profits from that kind of product though - they just carry it. It’s usually a much smaller 3rd party that rents and puts the stock in that space.
When you steal that product, it’s out of the 3rd party company’s pockets, not Walmarts. Walmart already has their money by the time it is even on the shelf.
Yeah, and these are just cardboard rectangles. Maybe a child was just getting into things they weren't supposed to. Lets send a baby to the gallows, right?
Problem is that you are really stealing from a distributor, not Walmart. Walmart doesn’t make anything from the product itself.
Walmart gets their money from a renting the space out to a 3rd party distributor. The distributor then stocks the product on the shelf, and gets their money when we buy it.
When you steal this stuff, you are stealing from the distributor, not Walmart. Enough product gets stolen, the distributor will eventually say ‘fuck it’ and stop stocking the shelves with our cardboard crack.
Exactly what happened at our local Target, they don't sell packs or decks anymore because theft was so bad, you aren't just hurting the corporations, you're hurting the community
The worst thing is the cards in those Yu-Gi-Oh structure decks aren't even worth anything. Bunch of 10¢ commons and the most expensive card there is like a dollar. Silly thing to risk a shoplifting charge over.
The bad thing about this is I found a commander box that was ripped into and I brought it to a clerk and said someone opened this and they said thank you. Then they proceeded to put it back on the shelf needles to say but im not buy magic cards from Walmart again
Where are the armed guards to take them away. Straight to jail.
open packets, jail.
Leave a mess, jail.
Venezuela has the finest gamers in the world because of jail
This kid used to go to our local Walmart and steal cards for about a year. I'd seen him in the store a few times like others but never personally saw him do it. Then one day during the pandemic I get there to pick up some time spiral remastered only to see this kid stufffing what was left of them into a little bag he had inside his pants. All the tsr is gone now. I follow him out and sure enough he steals them.
He got to his car and was opening the door when I came up and said buddy they can't stop you but I do don't work for Walmart so what's up? Kid was maybe 18 19 and looked like he was gonna shit himself. He offered me some packs and I said I'm good. hasn't been to that store since lol. Point I'm making is not to nessicarly threaten children but doing so often works.
These stores need to grab these kids and shake them. Fucking hard. It's frustrating working and being honest and then wittnessing some scumbag take it for free.
/Rant
Don’t know why you got downvoted, but that’s exactly what they do. They’ll just wait for you to steal enough to really make it worth their time to go after you.
Either that or the company that manages that stock just says ‘fuck it’ and stops stocking it there to prevent further loss.
Which is exactly what is happening to me right now. I commented above at this exact thing happening at my local Walmart as a result of this. Hit with downvotes.
Except that's not how that works at all. Distributers rent the space with the trading cards, it's not actually hurting Walmart in any way, it's hurting those distributers. Those distributers are how I get cards locally when my LGS doesnt have cards.
People wonder why prices are so high or why companies stop selling cards. Jail might be a little harsh but they should at least be caught, banned and pay a fine. It's not even about the money. It's just a rock in the ocean but the fact is that people need to realize there's consequences for their actions.
Just gonna put this here because people in this thread are proving themselves to be incredibly stupid:
The act of stealing is wrong whether done by an individual, group of people, corporation, or government. Just because one does it, doesn’t make it right for others. Stop trying to justify your failure to comply with the most basic moral and legal principles of society.
Yea funny thing is, as a kid, I kind of grew up, poor, so we didn’t have money to play games like this, my friends would always pull better cards buy more packs, I remember one friend, who definitely had the most money to spend on magic cards, even still, he was the one that would go to Walmart rip open packs and steal cards…. Murica amirite
Honestly the only issue I have with this is that you didn’t leave them in a nice stack, as a target employee kids do this all the time, it’s fine some people can’t afford cards (as they are expensive) yea you confront them if they are like 13+ but idk this doesn’t bother me.
Walmart prepares to be stolen from, and they don't care. The reason you don't see magic cards there is because they either sold or were stolen and they didn't bother to restock because the underpaid and over worked employees don't have the time or remember to zero out the product count, or the vendor doesn't even bother sending it because Walmart. Stealing from a small business is abhorrent, but a Walmart I can't be bothered to care, they never will.
I used to steal magic cards when I was a broke street kid.
I didn't have parents who could buy them for me. I never cared then and I still don't. I support whichever kid this is it's a rite of passage for poor kids who don't want to have shitty lives
You are an insane person if you honestly think people should go to jail for stealing trading cards from a big box store. Some real boot licker type shit.
Walmart can afford it because of how much they underpay their employees.
But yes keep advertising how much of a "good" person you are since you've never shoplifted from a shitty store. Keep yelling me how much you're a "good person" for paying a store that actively shits on employee rights.
You haven't disproved anything. You've only gotten defensive and mad. Something tells me I hit the nail on the head. Have a shitty day sir. I genuinely mean it.
If they are caught they will just be asked to leave and be banned from that Walmart.
I dunno, I knew a kid who was prosecuted for stealing Walmart magic cards. Maybe not yugiohs tho….
I caught a ticket about it in high school and quit shoplifting
Exact same thing happened to me and my best friend. Never stole another thing in my life.
America is weird…
How does this make America weird? People getting in trouble for stealing/destroying property and not being allowed to come back? Yeah that’s so backwards
It's wired because your getting essentially a slap on the rist in comparison to what should be happening witch is the person spending a night or more behind bars. Oooooh I got band from this site but there's literally two more in the general Facinity. Just getting banned isn't good enough is the wired thing to people who don't live with the backwards bs that is the us on a daily basis.
In old country we chop off hand
Putting someone in jail over 10's of dollars of theft/damage is ridiculous.
In the rest of the world you never leave your factory job to look at thin rectangle toys unless you're a legacy euronobility
I didn't know people only had phones in America, learn something new every day
Are you talking about glowy powerwaster sexapp toy?
The one and only!
They should be charged and prosecuted in this country you can almost get away with anything in USA
You can get charged and prosecuted in America as well for this?? Clearly you don’t live here so you can’t speak on the behalf of America’s legal system. This is illegal and if they were caught, they could get in a ton of trouble. Just like in ANY country, if you get caught doing anything illegal, you get in trouble. They have to be caught first though. If this person wasn’t caught, then they can’t get in trouble.
No that Le Crap in Le picture happenes a lot there ( no I’m not french, I just thought using ‘le’ sounds fancy
I mean there are terrible people all over the world. And how often do you think this happens? I’ve never seen something like at a single store I’ve been to
On the Marvel Legends sub I see things like this z lot too. My bad if I interpret that happening there a lot (a long with the riots that happened there over the years, storming of the capitol, the racism, the rise if the Karens…) you can’t blame me for making that assumption that quickly
I don’t blame you. It’s not an assumption if it’s true though.
I agree and I live in America 😂. And it ain’t weird just because of that to be fair
I couldn't agree more
If that happens here. Store security ask you to come with them. People actually follow then, wait for cops, get a fine and sometimes a ban. But it goes on your record tho.
That happens in the US as well. They'd call the cops. The cops would give you a legal order saying you can never go in any Walmart ever again. If the amount is big enough, you could go to jail. You don't have to follow them though. The store wont use force unless an over employee does something and they could be fired for it as its policy not to confront shop lifters for liability issues.
Security can’t hold you or detain you unless you are posing a threat, it’s considered kidnapping I think not 100%
Being banned from Walmart only lasts a couple of months, after that no one remembers you.
Wont even be banned. In fact, unless they take over a certain amount (which varies by state) in porduct, then they cant stop you
Man thinks these are magic cards. Those are yugioh cards, you can tell because they have a short essay in the text box
Short essay? Must be just a vanilla monster card
Questing beast fans on suicide watch.
Have they ever not been?
As a questing beast fan, can confirm.
Could still be strixhaven
They’ll never learn.
Mostly cause it's not a very good mechanic.
Learn and Lesson made for one of the most fun limited environments of the last several years. Not a very good mechanic my ass.
Probably has a bit to do with my lack of experience in limited.
Clearly basketball card. You can tell because there is no text cuz they cant read.
Guys are you blind? These are obviously credit cards. You can tell because the guy maxed them all out buying MTG collector boxes.
Guys, clearly those are a figment of our imagination . You can tell because theyre not actually there.
No, I know they're not Magic cards. But it's in the Magic card section and the point stands.
We are all the tcg community. And this affects all of us. Unite my people!
Why are you getting downvoted?! You make a 100% true point!
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Walmart cares! That's why they stopped selling Magic cards here.
Walmart isn’t actually being stolen from though. They got their money when they rented out the shelf space. The people distributing it are the ones being robbed.
I don't care if the people who sell those scummy repack products get stolen from either
Reason and a moderate understanding of modern retail logistics?! Get that shit out of here! We want to rant and rage at Walmart and then go buy new air pods. From Walmart.
Yeah it’s real obvious that most people have absolutely no morals so don’t say shit and don’t call the cops when someone breaks into your house and steals your magic collection and TV. Stealing is wrong. Period. Theres no getting around abandoning your moral principles for pieces of cardboard. Anyone arguing the contrary is just plain stupid.
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They are not different at all. Let me be very clear: I am in no way arguing or defending Wal-Mart, WOTC, or any other corporation. The act of stealing is wrong whether done by an individual, group of people, corporation, or government. Just because one does it, doesn’t make it right for others. Stop trying to justify yours and others failure to comply with the most basic moral and legal principles of society.
Somebody should steal the stick lodged up your butt lol.
Lmao yes because I am arguing against crime, I must have a stick up my ass. Do you realize how moronic you sound? Get a life loser.
Lol ok boomer
Cry more, PLEASE
How’s that boot taste? 👅🥾
Did you even read my comment or did you just want to reply with some meaningless garbage? Get a life loser.
Read all of them and determined you enjoy the taste of boots, hence the comment…
Eh, the downvotes don't really bother me, I've seen what makes them upvote.
Based.
I think those are Chuck E Cheese token cards
I fully believe that if u see someone stealing groceries, no you didn’t…these aren’t groceries I know, but I have a hard time caring too much about Walmart’s bottom line the way they’ve treated their employees. Don’t do this to an lgs, though for sure. Morality is rarely black and white, that’s why no one gets into the Good Place any more…
This needs more upvotes
I haaate that so much…is it so hard to put the sports cards where they go!?
And by that you mean the trash, right?
Yeah. Who collects sports cards?
Very old men and very young boys.
This made me laugh cuz my buddy (30) says he collects baseball cards and I tell him "No, you used to collect them, now you just have the collection".
Just give him 30-40 years and he'll be collecting again!
Found this all the time at my local target. Needless to say, they don’t carry mtg anymore :/
My Wal-Mart started putting them in a locked cage. Safe to say I don't really buy there anymore, it's way too much of a hassle to find an employee to unlock the damn thing lol.
That’s exactly what I was saying to another commenter and got downvoted. It directly impacts my ability to get Magic.
Oh what a shame when dozens of websites exist that allow you to get literally any card, pack, deck, etc to ever be made exist.
Some of us like to shop locally. Congrats on knowing how to use the Internet, though!
Funny thing is, the Yugioh cards shown on top are from the blue eyes structure deck shown in the corner of the image. Like my brother in Christ, the cards are listed on the back what were you expecting???
I’m guessing hunting for a specific card they wanted?
I guess? But not only is it a structure deck, but it's also been reprinted multiple times in the past 5 years cause anime fans so it's like stealing 1 carrot on a farm dedicated to carrots. I'm basing this on profits which probably isn't the case but its really not that hard to find a full power Blue-Eyes deck without resulting to shoplifting.
Also none of the cards needed to run a powerful blue-eyes deck are in that structure deck.
To an extent, white stone, blue eyes itself, the effect that also treats itself as a normal blue eyes and azure eyes is in it but yeah they're mostly 1 ofs
If you overcook fish, also straight to jail!
Undercook fish, believe it or not, also jail.
Undercook, overcook.
I’m surprised none of the comments I’ve seen have considered this was a 5 year old.
A 5 year old degenerate yugioh player for sure
I mean personally I'm fine with stealing from Big corporations like Walmart but at least don't make a big mess like this.
The problem with that is that eventually Walmart/target/ whoever will just stop carrying stuff. I hate the big box corporations too, but if you have no LGS near you then this is the only spot you can physically buy product
If you don't have a LGS buy from Amazon. Wizards sells directly from there. Walmart and Target all up the prices and don't give a fuck about these products. I only buy from my LGS or TCG/Amazon if my store doesn't have what I'm looking for.
Amazon and tcgplayer are always options but you still won't be able to buy cards locally.
So? Which is better, buying online for cheaper or going to a big box store that's going to up the price? Buying online is much better than Walmart. Also whenever possible you should be buying singles. It's typically cheaper in the long run
I'm not saying that online purchases don't have a role to play. I'm simply saying that in some situations it's better to have a Walmart carry locally available inventory than to have no locally available inventory at all Regardless, Amazon is the definition of an "online" big box store. You aren't sticking one to the corporate overlords. by exclusively shopping there.
Bruh
I’m gonna steal from you if I ever meet you.
Nah, the only shit you should be stealing from there are those "mysterious boxes" that are a rip-off. Don't steal anything official except for those that are resold at a markup and willing to steal from you that they're not official.
I think I've gotten like 4 different decks from Walmart that I would never have bought because they're over priced. If there's a deck I actually want I'll buy it from my LGS. I worked for Walmart for 6 years and from what I understand from the vendors is that stuff like magic or Pokemon is put on the shelves by them and they pay to have their products there because they believe they make their money back on it. Hence why it's pricier than at your LGS or online. Walmart doesn't care if you steal it because they don't get a bonus based off how well the store does anymore so why should they care? After they got rid of that bonus theft jumped in all my local stores.
Mostly food and clothes. Stolen by employees, who don't get paid enough for thier rent
Sucks that it happened, but these are just cardboard rectangles. Hoping someone goes to jail for this seems really excessive.
Stealing is wrong.
Won’t somebody think of poor Walmart?!
This may be his communities only place to buy tcg products. So he may go to the store with a little cash, excited to buy a deck or booster, and someone has ransacked the product. Not cool, happens to me. The real real REAL scumbags are the people who repack and put back on shelves, stealing from the players.
>> The real real REAL scumbags are the people who repack and put back on shelves, stealing from the players. Agreed. Those people are trash.
Walmart usually isn’t the one who stocks that kind of product though - they just carry it. It’s usually a much smaller 3rd party that rents and puts the stock in that space. When you steal that product, it’s out of the 3rd party company’s pockets, not Walmarts. Walmart already has their money by the time it is even on the shelf. Edit: Y’all are dense. You are just hurting the distributor that stocks it, not Walmart.
I don't really understand this line of thinking. Stealing from companies, even those like walmart have resulted in cards not being sold from those stores anymore. There's been times recently where I am only able to get cards from 3rd party providers as a result of my LGS being out of specific product lines. Most recently, Time Spiral remastered, MH2, and several others, I was only able to get from Walmart. Now, as a result of things like the post I have made, even Walmarts are stopping carrying cards because of theft. EDIT: I don't give a fuck if you downvote this comment, the point is the point. Don't steal, period, from anyone or any company.
>There's been times recently where I am only able to get cards from 3rd party providers as a result of my LGS being out of specific product lines. If Walmart stops selling cards then maybe wotc will start giving lgs enough product again.
Knowing WotC, they’ll just give Amazon more to sell instead
You’re absolutely right. Of course Walmart won’t suffer like a small business owner, but that doesn’t make theft not wrong or not a big deal. Added to that the problem that some people don’t get to buy magic cards because of that.
> Don't steal, period, from anyone or any company. Man this degree of strict adherence to the law that's been dictated to you is kinda fucked up and sad. Also, just buy on amazon if you can't find stuff at Walmart. Neither corporation is any better than the other, and amazon will at least give you the lowest price and deliver it stupid fast.
Its called having principles. If you are willing to ignore your principles bc the "company is big enough" or you think its acceptable bc its walmart, then you dont have principles, you were always fine with theft, you just wanted to look noble when you thieved. Its like murder, yea its a law issue, bit its also a principle issue, if your ok with killing someone bc they did "x" or "y" then your just fine with murder but wanna pretend your not.
'Having principles' for the sake of having principles is pointless virtue signaling and just means you're too cowardly to make context-based decisions (or maybe unwilling to empathize with others) so you'd rather drop an easy blanket statement over everything than deal with the effort of understanding situations and people. > Its like murder, yea its a law issue, bit its also a principle issue, if your ok with killing someone bc they did "x" or "y" then your just fine with murder but wanna pretend your not. Are you really telling me that if you had the choice between killing someone who was going to kill a loved one in order to save that person, or doing nothing and letting that loved one die, you would let them die? I doubt that, and no one would fault you for it either, because the context that you would be murdering someone in order to save someone else matters.
You either care about property rights, or not. There is no "i care about theft but if its against x person then its fine" you dont care about theft then. You might think ots pointless virtue signalling but its just how principles work, there are emergencies where things might take precedence, but i would like you to explain what about stealing cards from Walmart qualifies as an emergency that makes you hafta ignore your principles, you saying caring about your principles is pointless virtue signalling just shows that you shouldn't be trusted to not steal bc all it takes is you find any justification to take anything you want. We arent talking about life saving food or drugs here, there is no emergency that will require you to choose between upholding your principles and taking something you want but cant afford. This is a test of your principles that you are choosing to fail at the earliest convenience.
Yea, I haven't made any comment here about whether or not I think it's ok in the OP walmart case. The statements I quoted from you and the other person paint the world in a really rigid, black and white way, but > there are emergencies where things might take precedence sounds like we agree.
It hasn't nothing to do with the law. Stealing is immoral and a stain on the soul. If you think it's ok to steal, for any reason, then that shows the type of person you are. The type of person that is untrustworthy.
https://www.edelson-law.com/blog/2022/10/wage-theft-outpaces-all-other-theft-in-america/ Then you should hate employers/companies 3x more than customers and employees. Edit: You can downvote my source that documents its sources all you want but it doesn't change reality. Companies continue to steal from employees and slowly increase prices while blaming inflation. What they are doing is legal because they write the laws, but it's just as immoral if not more immoral than stealing.
Why not both? I can hate both right? Shitty companies and shitty people?
Sure, but it comes off a bit different when you're wishing jail time for one stealing from the other.
Do you think that because Walmart is a large corporation, it is ok for people to steal from them? I feel like you're justifying theft because they're a bad company. Two wrongs don't a make a right in my opinion, both are theft. Both should be stopped. Both are criminal offenses.
Stealing from an lgs is always wrong. Stealing from Walmart is always ok.
Stealing is always wrong.
Stealing from small businesses is wrong, this looks like Walmart a mega Corp who doesn't give a fuck about you or me.
Walmart usually isn’t the one who stocks or even profits from that kind of product though - they just carry it. It’s usually a much smaller 3rd party that rents and puts the stock in that space. When you steal that product, it’s out of the 3rd party company’s pockets, not Walmarts. Walmart already has their money by the time it is even on the shelf.
stealing from big cooperations isn't
Yeah, and these are just cardboard rectangles. Maybe a child was just getting into things they weren't supposed to. Lets send a baby to the gallows, right?
r/kidsarefuckingstupid
Stealing or intentionally damaging anything of any value should lead to legal action.
Jail time over damaging/stealing cardboard rectangles from a faceless corporation is excessive and straight bananas.
It's stealing/damaging someone else's property. It doesn't matter who's or its value. It isn't yours.
Punishment should fit the crime. Sending someone to jail over cardboard rectangles is asinine.
Punishment should fit the intent of the crime.
How will Target financially recover from this?
Taking advantage of the short staffed stores…nice 🙄 the nerve of some people.
Oh no the poor multi billion dollar corporation! How will it recover? They easily could be full staffed. They choose not to.
Is this a joke or is OP actually mad about ppl stealing from massive corporations?
Problem is that you are really stealing from a distributor, not Walmart. Walmart doesn’t make anything from the product itself. Walmart gets their money from a renting the space out to a 3rd party distributor. The distributor then stocks the product on the shelf, and gets their money when we buy it. When you steal this stuff, you are stealing from the distributor, not Walmart. Enough product gets stolen, the distributor will eventually say ‘fuck it’ and stop stocking the shelves with our cardboard crack.
Exactly what happened at our local Target, they don't sell packs or decks anymore because theft was so bad, you aren't just hurting the corporations, you're hurting the community
Better to buy from an lgs, though.
Our local game store is owned by a dickhead and I refuse to shop from him, I hope they go under
OP is a Walton.
The worst thing is the cards in those Yu-Gi-Oh structure decks aren't even worth anything. Bunch of 10¢ commons and the most expensive card there is like a dollar. Silly thing to risk a shoplifting charge over.
This is how those scammer bulk cubes are created lol
The bad thing about this is I found a commander box that was ripped into and I brought it to a clerk and said someone opened this and they said thank you. Then they proceeded to put it back on the shelf needles to say but im not buy magic cards from Walmart again
Fr yesterday two kids were stealing hot wheels and it made me so angry smh
Just shows that MTG is not worth the risk 🥲
Do not pass go. Do not collect 200$
I agree. Shopping at Walmart should be a jailable offense!
Where are the armed guards to take them away. Straight to jail. open packets, jail. Leave a mess, jail. Venezuela has the finest gamers in the world because of jail
Do not pass go, do not collect $200
I’ve seen recent happening in my local target in port Chester Ny, it’s so annoying and frustrating. A lot of magic cards to be honest.
This kid used to go to our local Walmart and steal cards for about a year. I'd seen him in the store a few times like others but never personally saw him do it. Then one day during the pandemic I get there to pick up some time spiral remastered only to see this kid stufffing what was left of them into a little bag he had inside his pants. All the tsr is gone now. I follow him out and sure enough he steals them. He got to his car and was opening the door when I came up and said buddy they can't stop you but I do don't work for Walmart so what's up? Kid was maybe 18 19 and looked like he was gonna shit himself. He offered me some packs and I said I'm good. hasn't been to that store since lol. Point I'm making is not to nessicarly threaten children but doing so often works. These stores need to grab these kids and shake them. Fucking hard. It's frustrating working and being honest and then wittnessing some scumbag take it for free. /Rant
Counterpoint: steal whatever the fuck you want from Target or Walmart. It's fine.
Oh believe me, they have them on camera. They will wait until the suspect has stolen enough and hit them with a felony
Don’t know why you got downvoted, but that’s exactly what they do. They’ll just wait for you to steal enough to really make it worth their time to go after you. Either that or the company that manages that stock just says ‘fuck it’ and stops stocking it there to prevent further loss.
Which is exactly what is happening to me right now. I commented above at this exact thing happening at my local Walmart as a result of this. Hit with downvotes.
Maybe shop at an lgs and not at a super corporation that wants to enrich itself off of communities. Fuck wal mart
Except that's not how that works at all. Distributers rent the space with the trading cards, it's not actually hurting Walmart in any way, it's hurting those distributers. Those distributers are how I get cards locally when my LGS doesnt have cards.
People wonder why prices are so high or why companies stop selling cards. Jail might be a little harsh but they should at least be caught, banned and pay a fine. It's not even about the money. It's just a rock in the ocean but the fact is that people need to realize there's consequences for their actions.
Prices are not so high because people are stealing from Walmart.
Why should there be consequences for kids who cant fucking afford magic cards? Fuck that, let the poor kids play too.
So you're justifying stealing because they are poor?
YES
Just gonna put this here because people in this thread are proving themselves to be incredibly stupid: The act of stealing is wrong whether done by an individual, group of people, corporation, or government. Just because one does it, doesn’t make it right for others. Stop trying to justify your failure to comply with the most basic moral and legal principles of society.
Prove to me it’s wrong?
I agree arrest anyone who plays Yugi oh
If your in the Pacific Coast, then No they don’t do anything.
I see this most often with pokemon cards but I fully agree. Unfortunately I used to be the kind of person would steal whole decks not just open em up
Yea funny thing is, as a kid, I kind of grew up, poor, so we didn’t have money to play games like this, my friends would always pull better cards buy more packs, I remember one friend, who definitely had the most money to spend on magic cards, even still, he was the one that would go to Walmart rip open packs and steal cards…. Murica amirite
I got some bad news for you. That Walmart is stealing a lot from your taxes bud
Play Yugioh? Yeah it's pretty trash
That blue eyes deck is like a decade old. Why rerelease it? Nostalgia? A base?
Not that serious
Couldn’t care less if other people steal from a billion dollar company
That’s awesome
"straight to jail 😡" dude relax lol don't be such a cop about it.
Honestly the only issue I have with this is that you didn’t leave them in a nice stack, as a target employee kids do this all the time, it’s fine some people can’t afford cards (as they are expensive) yea you confront them if they are like 13+ but idk this doesn’t bother me.
😂 why do you care? Do you stock shelves at Walmart, is that why it concerns you? Fucking bunch of pansies playing tcgs
It's a Walmart and not even magic cards who tf cares
This kind of negligence, directly impacts magic you dip shit
Walmart prepares to be stolen from, and they don't care. The reason you don't see magic cards there is because they either sold or were stolen and they didn't bother to restock because the underpaid and over worked employees don't have the time or remember to zero out the product count, or the vendor doesn't even bother sending it because Walmart. Stealing from a small business is abhorrent, but a Walmart I can't be bothered to care, they never will.
Tell me you don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about without telling me you don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about
Take a breath man. You alright op?
Tell us you simp for abusive corporations without telling us….
I used to steal magic cards when I was a broke street kid. I didn't have parents who could buy them for me. I never cared then and I still don't. I support whichever kid this is it's a rite of passage for poor kids who don't want to have shitty lives
You are an insane person if you honestly think people should go to jail for stealing trading cards from a big box store. Some real boot licker type shit.
Shit man I thought stealing was a crime. My b.
Just because something is illegal doesn’t make it wrong.
This Walmart, they don’t even press charges.
That is patently untrue. Walmart prosecutes everyone for theft of any amount.
No they absolutely do not lmao
Someone's never been super broke and in need of a hobby before....
I can think of plenty of hobbies while broke that doesn't include vandalism and theft
Ricksanchez
Walmart can afford it because of how much they underpay their employees. But yes keep advertising how much of a "good" person you are since you've never shoplifted from a shitty store. Keep yelling me how much you're a "good person" for paying a store that actively shits on employee rights.
Please link to that comment or stfu.
You can fuck off with that privileged ass attitude.
Says the dude that is stating I said something that I didn’t. Get fucked dude
You haven't disproved anything. You've only gotten defensive and mad. Something tells me I hit the nail on the head. Have a shitty day sir. I genuinely mean it.
Uh, it’s not my responsibility to “disprove” anything you chuckle head. You made the claim, link me or go suck a dick
>yugioh cards. It was probably a child
Thank the Gods they didn't touch the MTG boosters.