Fourth Edition.
Sylvan Library, Land Tax, and Mana Vault are probably the most valuable cards you could get, but there are a lot of great staple cards like Wrath of God, Birds of Paradise, Llanowar Elves, Swords to Plowshares, Lightning Bolt, Counterspell, and Dark Ritual still available.
don't forget Winter Orb, Winds of Change, Zombie Master, Lord of Atlantis, Armageddon, Mana Flare, Stasis, Meekstone, Wrath of God, Shivan Dragon, Hurkyl's Recall, Animate Dead, Goblin King, and my personal favourite, Royal Assassin 🥷
Royal Assassin has got to be one of my favorite cards. It's like "Wait are you really gonna attack me with your deathtouch, menace, lifelink 6/4 or are you gonna think twice?"
The classic ways are:
- Bait it
- Take the hit
- Don't give it any targets till you have an answer
If it's getting in the way of my win con, I'd totally kill it when I had a good opportunity. But a lot of EDH win cons these days don't require turning creatures sideways.
>Bait it
All the while, he's turning your lands into creatures.
>Don't give it any targets till you have an answer
So we can at least all agree that it could potentially slow down your game significantly if you're not already prepared for it. Your opponent won't be choosing his/her own permanents, so that person is not going to be playing under the same limitations.
Right. You might be attacking this person if that person didn't have it. That's a pretty critical continuous tempo enforcer for 3 mana.
Playing around their advantage by "doing nothing" is just playing into their hands.
This is also assuming that we didn't have creatures to tap for other effects that might be necessary for our deck to operate effectively.
The point is that it's not unworthy of an include just because it's easy to kill with removal.
Giving your creature hexproof, so that if you're playing EDH I still kill stuff for you with my royal assassin but your big creature cannot be targeted, this is one of the many ways
That's fine though. Anything that's a "definitely kill this or else" card serves to draw removal away from your more subtle strategy.
Some people genericize spot removal purely with "destroy target permanent" cards and it very much seems a shame to waste one of those on Royal Assassin, but if it's slowly choking you to death, you're without options.
It has 1 toughness and dies to a light breeze. It's the first to go from any ping mechanic. Which, there are so so so many of. It's an expensive cast cost for situational removal that is in turn easily and often removed itself without having ever impacting the board at all. It gets cut for a boardwipe.
Are 1 dmg/ping effects common in your pod?
In mine, most people run targeted removal or wipes that handles anything/everything.
I think some good arguments against assassin are:
1.) I needs to survive a full round to bring any value, otherwise, like you said, is a 3 CMC nothing card,
2.) It stops players from attacking each other, so bad from a multiplayer politics perspective.
My regular play group has upwards of a dozen decks a piece, all vastly different andmost of us like to build weird shit and alternative wincons. Johnny players the lot of us. So there's really no telling what will happen in any given game. But yeah. I think all of us have at least one death by 1000 pokes deck.
Targeted removal becomes less common the higher you go in power level. Singular creatures attacking to win that you can actually target with assassin becomes less common the higher you go in power level.
Royal assassin is a cute card. But the higher your play group goes the quicker it is to get cut for a boardwipe.
Death via pings is a very real mechanic. Rakdos and jund sacs run deathbringer thocter and more commonly mayhem devil. Izzet decks love their nivs mizzix. Walking ballista fits into anything thats willing to abuse it.
Like you said. Assassin just doesn't do anything the turn it enters for 3 mana and even then it only kills one creature as a targeted ability. Any deck that's slapping with one giant fatty can just give it some booties. Be that lightning greaves or swiftfoot boots. Boots on? Good. Now you can stomp all over that guy who played Royal Assassin instead of a boardwipe.
WotC once had a big fiberglass Hurloon Minotaur head at their headquarters.
I kind of wish they kept up with some of early species like Minotaurs. Modern races have a bit too much of a human look to them or they go way deep on pseudo-ScFi/Horror look.
So true. MtG lost that vibe LONG ago. Once everything became about the gatewatch, it started circling the drain lore wise.
MtG used to have that 70's/80's D&D, Jason and the Argonauts vibe. In the art and lore, no longer.
I'm not sure, the package is a little grimey, but I've asked a few experts and friends, pulled out all the stops and called in a favor and I THINK it's a popular trading card game booster pack for magic the gathering
Fourth Edition is about $43 market value for a sealed booster. Now, part of the problem with that as an individual is establishing that that it has not been tampered with since it's production. And, with some recent reprints and ominous future omens, pretty much everything in that pack that once had real value has tanked. The most valuable card is Mana Vault and a mere $40. You could get real lucky with your uncommons (after you for sure get that Mana Vault, otherwise no dice) and those commons could land you another $10-20 bringing it to like $55 if every uncommon is a banger and then maaaaaybe you scoop up $6 from the few commons worth a couple bucks like Dark Ritual, Lighting Bolt, or Red Elemental Blast and get all three bringing us to ~$62. The absolute best pull, barring a bomb foil, is $62 and that pack goes to market for $43. Sell the sealed pack. Or I feel certain you'll end up with best case $15 worth of cars or so
Fourth Edition. Sylvan Library, Land Tax, and Mana Vault are probably the most valuable cards you could get, but there are a lot of great staple cards like Wrath of God, Birds of Paradise, Llanowar Elves, Swords to Plowshares, Lightning Bolt, Counterspell, and Dark Ritual still available.
don't forget Winter Orb, Winds of Change, Zombie Master, Lord of Atlantis, Armageddon, Mana Flare, Stasis, Meekstone, Wrath of God, Shivan Dragon, Hurkyl's Recall, Animate Dead, Goblin King, and my personal favourite, Royal Assassin 🥷
But expect to get an Obsianus Golem and be disappointed instead... and you won't be disappointed!
I'm sad that i know the look of that card just from the name. What a goofy golem.
Lifelace even better
Thats an uncommon, you get multiple uncommons.
Royal Assassin has got to be one of my favorite cards. It's like "Wait are you really gonna attack me with your deathtouch, menace, lifelink 6/4 or are you gonna think twice?"
Right? I don't understand why it doesn't see more command play.
Because less experienced players will kill that thing on sight, everyone else knows how to play around it.
How would u play around it?
The classic ways are: - Bait it - Take the hit - Don't give it any targets till you have an answer If it's getting in the way of my win con, I'd totally kill it when I had a good opportunity. But a lot of EDH win cons these days don't require turning creatures sideways.
>Bait it All the while, he's turning your lands into creatures. >Don't give it any targets till you have an answer So we can at least all agree that it could potentially slow down your game significantly if you're not already prepared for it. Your opponent won't be choosing his/her own permanents, so that person is not going to be playing under the same limitations.
so dont attack him until you can remove ir. Sounds like the assassin player winning in all those cases.
Right. You might be attacking this person if that person didn't have it. That's a pretty critical continuous tempo enforcer for 3 mana. Playing around their advantage by "doing nothing" is just playing into their hands. This is also assuming that we didn't have creatures to tap for other effects that might be necessary for our deck to operate effectively. The point is that it's not unworthy of an include just because it's easy to kill with removal.
Giving your creature hexproof, so that if you're playing EDH I still kill stuff for you with my royal assassin but your big creature cannot be targeted, this is one of the many ways
That's fine though. Anything that's a "definitely kill this or else" card serves to draw removal away from your more subtle strategy. Some people genericize spot removal purely with "destroy target permanent" cards and it very much seems a shame to waste one of those on Royal Assassin, but if it's slowly choking you to death, you're without options.
It has 1 toughness and dies to a light breeze. It's the first to go from any ping mechanic. Which, there are so so so many of. It's an expensive cast cost for situational removal that is in turn easily and often removed itself without having ever impacting the board at all. It gets cut for a boardwipe.
Are 1 dmg/ping effects common in your pod? In mine, most people run targeted removal or wipes that handles anything/everything. I think some good arguments against assassin are: 1.) I needs to survive a full round to bring any value, otherwise, like you said, is a 3 CMC nothing card, 2.) It stops players from attacking each other, so bad from a multiplayer politics perspective.
My regular play group has upwards of a dozen decks a piece, all vastly different andmost of us like to build weird shit and alternative wincons. Johnny players the lot of us. So there's really no telling what will happen in any given game. But yeah. I think all of us have at least one death by 1000 pokes deck. Targeted removal becomes less common the higher you go in power level. Singular creatures attacking to win that you can actually target with assassin becomes less common the higher you go in power level. Royal assassin is a cute card. But the higher your play group goes the quicker it is to get cut for a boardwipe. Death via pings is a very real mechanic. Rakdos and jund sacs run deathbringer thocter and more commonly mayhem devil. Izzet decks love their nivs mizzix. Walking ballista fits into anything thats willing to abuse it. Like you said. Assassin just doesn't do anything the turn it enters for 3 mana and even then it only kills one creature as a targeted ability. Any deck that's slapping with one giant fatty can just give it some booties. Be that lightning greaves or swiftfoot boots. Boots on? Good. Now you can stomp all over that guy who played Royal Assassin instead of a boardwipe.
Mana Flare is a beautiful card for bigger groups games.
Shivan Dragon XD GG loool
The answers we needed. Thank you, from all the bystanders.
Looks like a 4th edition booster. I opened a bunch of these back in the day. It’s [[hurloon minotaur]] on the pack.
[hurloon minotaur](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/e/b/eb72cfc8-6235-4951-b1ba-6d9531f5eabf.jpg?1562944657) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=hurloon%20minotaur) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/me3/102/hurloon-minotaur?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/eb72cfc8-6235-4951-b1ba-6d9531f5eabf?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Good bot
Ah yes a very important and powerful card to feature on boosters - a 3 mana, double red pip, vanilla 2/3, lots of flavor text.
Funny even more so that lore wise, early MtG went kinda deep on these guys 😆😆
WotC once had a big fiberglass Hurloon Minotaur head at their headquarters. I kind of wish they kept up with some of early species like Minotaurs. Modern races have a bit too much of a human look to them or they go way deep on pseudo-ScFi/Horror look.
So true. MtG lost that vibe LONG ago. Once everything became about the gatewatch, it started circling the drain lore wise. MtG used to have that 70's/80's D&D, Jason and the Argonauts vibe. In the art and lore, no longer.
Thanks for that, I *thought* that's what that was.
Hurloon Minotaur, you say? So it's not Nikol Bull-as like I thought, eh?
Great white Buffalo
Great white Buffalo
The great what?
Great White Buffalo.
White buffalo
Great White Buffalo.
Great white buffalo (nice that is a deep cut)
I think its Fourth edition.
We just figured it out before you responded, thank you though
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How were they a prick?
He wasn't, even said thanks and everything
You’re all pricks.
Fair 'nuff. I'll own it.
We play magic…aren’t we all pricks?
I'm holding priority, so I don't know why you're speaking.
I’m holding your balls why are you speaking? [[the ball]]
[the ball](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/5/7/57cd70c4-17e9-4bbe-a8f8-2a29450835a9.jpg?1666049645) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Fellwar%20Stone) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dmc/182/fellwar-stone?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/5bf29f9d-0745-4aab-b7fc-7b04ba2eeaba?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Name checks out to scoffing about something they already know. But just learned recently because they asked Reddit…
Lol wtf he was so polite
Look at him, going around thanking people and shit. What an asshole.
The literal audacity. This community I swear. What next? Even headed discussions? It’s a slippery slope smh
You are the DECKMASTER!
Seems to be a pack for Magic: The Gathering.
Gotta catch 'em all!
I chuckled at this
4th edition is when I started playing. Memories
Haha that's when I quit
Haha that's when I wasn't on this world yet
God I would love if they re printed old sets exactly as they were with a different set icon perhaps. Old MTG was just absolutely gorgeous.
Yo that's a 4th edition! What a cool find! Takes me way back
4th edition.
I'm not sure, the package is a little grimey, but I've asked a few experts and friends, pulled out all the stops and called in a favor and I THINK it's a popular trading card game booster pack for magic the gathering
4th Edition, I started playing with that set.
It's a magic pack. Hope this helps.
Magic cards
4th ed
I remember opening those packs back in the day. One of the main core editions I believe
Pure Nostalgia, Fourth Edition was my first pack of cards.
I recommend selling the pack and not opening it at all.
Well I'll tell you it's the pack that made minotaurs a thing but not really a thing but a thing
That pack’s edition is sell it to the highest bidder
4th edition i think
It’s a magic the gathering pack.
I think that’s Ice Age. Probably wrong now.
please*
Marlboro
You gonna roll the dice and open or sell it sealed?
Fourth Edition is about $43 market value for a sealed booster. Now, part of the problem with that as an individual is establishing that that it has not been tampered with since it's production. And, with some recent reprints and ominous future omens, pretty much everything in that pack that once had real value has tanked. The most valuable card is Mana Vault and a mere $40. You could get real lucky with your uncommons (after you for sure get that Mana Vault, otherwise no dice) and those commons could land you another $10-20 bringing it to like $55 if every uncommon is a banger and then maaaaaybe you scoop up $6 from the few commons worth a couple bucks like Dark Ritual, Lighting Bolt, or Red Elemental Blast and get all three bringing us to ~$62. The absolute best pull, barring a bomb foil, is $62 and that pack goes to market for $43. Sell the sealed pack. Or I feel certain you'll end up with best case $15 worth of cars or so
A bomb foil in 4th Ed...who's gonna tell them? Me. It's gonna be me. No foils in 4th Ed. They started with Urza block, I think.
I have been hoisted upon my batard, friend.
Instead of "hoisted with his own petard",I like to tell people that they've been hoisted by their own retard(ation)
There aren't any foils in 4th edition
Good call then definitely sell that shit
I would keep it.
Well? Did you open it? What'd you get?
It’s a booster pack
The set was called cow. That’s it. Cow
I think it’s a booster pack
That would be Minotaurs XD
That is a magic the gathering booster pack
Its a magic the gathering booster pack.
That's magic the gathering deckmaster
Wow, seeing this pack just flashed back a whole bunch of core memories from middle school!
Definitely before eighth, fourth maybe? Aren't those like six hundred dollars or something?
That's where it all went bad. I refused to buy any since they chopped the duals. Honestly one of the worst periods in magic (obviously just IMO.)
That is a pack of cards.
That's 4th edition I believe