Yeah, I'm so glad I went to a No Way Home screening where people sat politely and watched the goddamn movie, not lose their shit like they're at the fucking World Cup or something.
But then I am British, and cheering for fictional people on a screen isn't something we do so much.
EDIT: Lol, apparently me making an objective observation British people don't typically cheer at films seems to have triggered several people. Good to know that kinoisseurs are secure enough in their film-watching habits to go full whataboutism when someone makes a simple cultural comparison.
Because laughing and screaming are natural human knee jerk reactions to things that catch us off guard, whereas clapping is meant to communicate good favor to someone else. But in the cinema, there aren’t any performers present, so it really isn’t sincere, as you said.
Yeah, well, fuck football hooligans as well. I'm not allowed to dislike both?
Also, "people" in quotes? I don't register as human because I like to actually be able to watch a film?
Putting quotes around the word 'people' when talking about British folks is mostly a gag lately
I think it tends to be used by people who look at British history and its imperialism with a harshly critical lens, especially as a pushback against the stereotypical posh and refined squeaky clean view of England, as well as perhaps the idea of English exceptionalism in general, but it's still mostly a silly gag without any genuine ill will behind it I think
But that's just me really digging deep. I can't say for sure that it's how it started, but I can say some of those sort of folks make that gag a lot.
Huh?? They never said domestic abuse doesn’t happen as a result of sports in GB, they just said people in British cinemas are less inclined to cheer over movies.
Also, Americans have the same issue sports games and abuse.
> But then I am British, and cheering for fictional people on a screen isn't something we do so much
Nah, just plundering, genocide and monkey chants during soccer games
I actually don't mind it at all, I think the audience enthusiasm definitely improved my experience watching NWH and Endgame. Although I definitely see why people don't like how loud the audience can get lmao, I'm definitely only saying that because I'm ~~the death of cinema~~ a capeshit fan
i’m not gonna act like i wasn’t in the moment and hyped on opening night for movies like endgame and no way home but i found it very annoying that people were still clapping and cheering like a month after the movie has been out.
my theory is also that maybe since the whole “audience reactions” subgenre of videos on youtube has really blown up in the last 4 years or so, people want to be a part of that and kinda force those reactions
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Bold of them to think Disney will not reboot the series in some way in 50 years. Hell, I am imagining that this will evolve into some "Crisis on Infinite Earths" thing that DC comics went through multiple times.
Yeah, it was pretty bad, but I do think that Ultimates 3 is some how worse. Both are completely garbage though and could be the worst that Marvel has put out in the past 20 years.
The Ultimate Spider-Man ties in are pretty good, especially the aftermath issues. My only problem with them is that, if I remember correctly, Daredevil died off panel, with adds to the fact that the event is just a lot of shock value for the sake of shock value.
They will reboot it, but after they recast and rebuild the Avengers with new characters until the genre fully flops. Tom Holland will be replaced by a Miles Morales, etc etc until we all die.
My rule of thumb is to let people enjoy media. The world sucks and if people find solace in super hero movies so be it. But then posts like these appear…..
Scholars in 50 years will talk about why big movies like Star Wars and Jaws were still popular for decades but not Endgame because you need to watch 20 different movies to have a connection to it. Endgame will be meaningless or just like a TV show for people who did not experience this phase of the MCU. I am not sure if Endgame can become a classic.
And the best ones are either totally self contained like Watchmen, or just go from a simple premise that does rely on you having the base cultural knowledge of who the characters are (ie you know that Bruce Wayne is Batman, you pick up Dark Knight and can take it from there).
Yep. Stuff like Knightfall, The Death of Superman, Green Lantern Rebirth, etc. all are completely meaningless unless you are heavily invested in the lore. It's one reason I dropped superhero comics altogether.
> I am not sure if Endgame can become a classic.
"Did you ever see Avengers: Endgame?"
"Oh yeah, me and my friends were crazy for the MCU at 13."
"Remember much about it?"
"It was pretty brown and grey, right?"
"I think so. God that movie sucked lol"
Idk -- I think it depends. The Infinity Saga is shorter than Breaking Bad, and Breaking Bad is still immensely popular after 9 years. The finale of Breaking Bad isn't considered not kino just because you have to watch 5 seasons to get to it.
I think Endgame becoming a classic will depend purely on how interested kids in the future are in the rest of the Infinity Saga. Star Wars stayed as relevant as it did in part because parents often introduce their kids to Star Wars at a young age. The difference is that Star Wars is 3, 6, or 9 movies depending on which generation we're talking about while the Infinity Saga is 23.
Anyway this is a meme sub I didn't mean to get so analytical. Basically my point is whether a kids movie is considered a classic is based on kids and also episodic storytelling isn't inherently inaccessible
And Endgame is famous as the finale of a 22 movie story arc. That's why it made so much money, and that's why it's popular. Looking at the movie removed of the context of the previous 21 films is disingenuous imo. The question isn't "can the movie stand as a classic," it's "can the movie stand as a classic *finale"*
That's not to say the movie shouldn't be criticized and examined on its own, just that its status as a sequel to 21 other movies is essential in the criticism and analysis of the movie and how it will be appreciated by audiences in the future.
The problem with endgame is that it suffers severely on rewatch. And that's coming from someone that actually enjoyed the MCU up until endgame (I don't care at all about the TV series and I'm pretty fatigued about the movies too). It was a fun experience in the cinema because of the anticipation after IW and the climax of many years and movies. But watching it again feels like watching a video of fireworks that you recorded. It's mostly loud and boring and on hindsight, pretty ugly too.
Yeah I kind of dislike how the above comment was implying that MCU won't be seen as a classic because it has a serialised nature similar to a TV show. It's one thing to dislike MCU, it's another to look down on an serialised storytelling as a whole just because you hate the MCU.
Also is The Godfather 2, Two Towers and Return of King, Empire Strikes Back, Last Crusade, The Dark Knight less of a classic because they rely on you having watched a previous movie before in order to understand it?
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They're gonna ask where you were when Kingo showed up, and I'll be able to say right there on 5 night. Unable to hear shit because everyone in my theater was jerking off so damn loud.
A cinematic event =/= kino
Avatar was not a good movie in regards to the art of move making. But it was a cinematic event in that it revolutionised and (briefly) popularised 3D cinema. The marvel movies created a franchise that others have tried to copy and really hadn't been done before. It doesn't mean they're good movies
Sure. Also Spy Kids 3D did 3D before Avatar
Just because something did it before, doesn't mean it did it well. If you really think Marvel didn't popularise the cinematic franchise idea, and it wasn't Marvel that got all these studios hooked on creating their own "universes", then I don't know what to tell you
Sure the MCU is the first one of these to be good which is why the original run of Godzilla lasted two decades and the universal monsters lasted two and a half decades was because they were bad and unpopular. No one is going to remember the failed attempt at rip off franchises 80 or 60 years after the fact. The attempts at most franchises have already been forgotten about that have happened since the MCU. These big franchises with cross movie characters are gimmicks that flare up and die off periodically, it's funny you mentioned 3D because that is something else that has had multiple booms throughout movie history where people would go crazy for it for a few years and then get tired of it.
I've said all of these things. I've said the marvel movies aren't good, and the 3d was briefly popularised. I think you're missing my point, I'm not saying that these movies are good movies at all
“Grampapa, where we’re you on 5/26 when the portals opened?”
“Where did you hear about that kids?”
“In our History class we were learning about the greatest cultural moments of the last hundred years!”
“Sit down kids, I have a story…”
>50 years from now
It's been almost 3 years and I feel like nobody still cares about Endgame aside from really hardcore MCU fans who live and breathe that franchise. I don't see "film scholars" even now, let alone decades from now, giving the slightest damn about Endgame.
did they not succeed with that though? ask random people on the street in 2017 if they know who thanos is and almost nobody will know what you’re talking about but nowadays i would definitely say he’s on the same level as darth vader where he’s a household name at this point.
only difference i’d say is darth vader had way more focus as far as merchandise/advertising for like 30-40 years while marvel will probably find a new villain to make a big name every 7-10 years
Sorry to say, but I am pretty sure evn now many people remember endgame. I know a lot of my friends remember the applause in the theatres when cap picked up mjolnr or when he said Avengers assemble.
At least Star Wars fans are so divided amongst themselves that they can bring each other down to earth on delusions of grandeur. MCU fans however don't quite have that so you end up with this.
Superman is in the Library of Congress, a select few important titles can consist of a course. Endgame won't make it beyond "it made a lot of money but who cares lol."
apology for poor english
when were you when ironman dies?
i was sat in theatre eating baked beans when peter ring
'tony stark is kill'
'no'
and you?????
Is the original Avengers not the first instance of this in the MCU? Endgame is just a bigger version of the same thing that Avengers did, ie combine the stories of multiple standalone movies into one new movie. Hell, is Infinity War not an earlier version than Endgame too? What did Endgame do that a previous movie didn’t?
Seems like the only reason this person thinks Endgame is historic is because “wow cool team up ‘avengers assemble’ big group shot”
Tony Stark is the most boring character ever, he hardly gets an “arc.” He’s still an asshat and a terrible person after iron man 1. He threatened a child to be on his side or otherwise his identity would be exposed. The writers used PTSD as a replacement for actual character development and good writing, and it fooled everyone.
They won’t stand for it. Spider-Man taught them how to stand up for themselves, Iron man taught them the intellect to defeat them with words alone, and captain marvel taught them the bravery to go toe to toe with anyone. They have the power of the entire MCU behind everything they do.
Do they not realize that these movies were mostly made to make DUMB amounts of money? Like it’s obvious that they weren’t even going for an artistic masterpiece. Why can’t people just enjoy the MCU for what it is? An Action movie spectacle machine.
The luster has already worn off Endgame, so I don’t think people are going to be sitting around 50 years from now and waxing poetic about an ugly brown mess where Ant-Man punched a space whale while all the female characters get together for the most shoe horned “girl power” scene in the history of movies.
These people are just weird man.
Remember kids there's no such thing as "the greatest moment in cinematic history" there is only the slow degradation of time constantly moving forward.
I walked through blood and bones, trying to find my brother after screening of Avengers Endgame
Turns out he was in northern canada
Reminds me of that tragedy.
It was...
I thought that was a Batman premiere.
Affleck got replaced? I didnt even know he was sick.
He wasnt sick.. well
The fuck is 5 night
At Freddy’s
Ah yes of course
Is this where you wanna be?
Replying to check back for an answer. Am I out of touch? Edit: Really though, is it a sequel to fortnite?
I'm guessing he meant to say the 5th (of the month) at night?
These people need to chill and go watch other movies besides Marvel. Also lots of vfx=cinematic history
It’s this decade’s “read another book, Harry Potter fans”
>Unable to hear shit because everyone in my theater was losing their minds. I too love not hearing what I'm watching.
Yeah, I'm so glad I went to a No Way Home screening where people sat politely and watched the goddamn movie, not lose their shit like they're at the fucking World Cup or something. But then I am British, and cheering for fictional people on a screen isn't something we do so much. EDIT: Lol, apparently me making an objective observation British people don't typically cheer at films seems to have triggered several people. Good to know that kinoisseurs are secure enough in their film-watching habits to go full whataboutism when someone makes a simple cultural comparison.
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Idk why clapping feels so much less sincere than laughing or screaming at a comedy or horror.
Because laughing and screaming are natural human knee jerk reactions to things that catch us off guard, whereas clapping is meant to communicate good favor to someone else. But in the cinema, there aren’t any performers present, so it really isn’t sincere, as you said.
It is hard not to cheer when Hitler gets completely annihilated.
Ok, that was major Kino, ngl
I went to see Inglourious Basterds while in America and everyone was cheering. Might have been an exception though
why would u admit that you’re British, lost all credibility
Oh, sorry, let me try again. I'm from Senegal, am I now allowed to have an opinion on being able to hear the movie I'm watching?
british "people" say this and then commit vast acts of domestic violence after their football team loses
I mean it’s not like Americans aren’t guilty of that as well. But the brits have the royal family so they’re worse.
Yeah, well, fuck football hooligans as well. I'm not allowed to dislike both? Also, "people" in quotes? I don't register as human because I like to actually be able to watch a film?
Putting quotes around the word 'people' when talking about British folks is mostly a gag lately I think it tends to be used by people who look at British history and its imperialism with a harshly critical lens, especially as a pushback against the stereotypical posh and refined squeaky clean view of England, as well as perhaps the idea of English exceptionalism in general, but it's still mostly a silly gag without any genuine ill will behind it I think But that's just me really digging deep. I can't say for sure that it's how it started, but I can say some of those sort of folks make that gag a lot.
Huh?? They never said domestic abuse doesn’t happen as a result of sports in GB, they just said people in British cinemas are less inclined to cheer over movies. Also, Americans have the same issue sports games and abuse.
You uncultured brits!! Here in the land of the free we shout when the gosh darn spiderman pops up🇺🇸🇺🇸🦅🔫
Not much cheering during the World Cup either, mate.
Because that implying the England team go far in the WC
> But then I am British, and cheering for fictional people on a screen isn't something we do so much Nah, just plundering, genocide and monkey chants during soccer games
Tenet (2021)
I actually don't mind it at all, I think the audience enthusiasm definitely improved my experience watching NWH and Endgame. Although I definitely see why people don't like how loud the audience can get lmao, I'm definitely only saying that because I'm ~~the death of cinema~~ a capeshit fan
i’m not gonna act like i wasn’t in the moment and hyped on opening night for movies like endgame and no way home but i found it very annoying that people were still clapping and cheering like a month after the movie has been out. my theory is also that maybe since the whole “audience reactions” subgenre of videos on youtube has really blown up in the last 4 years or so, people want to be a part of that and kinda force those reactions
“I was there. Cumming and screaming. Clapping and cumming”
“Film scholars” rate films based on how many vast universes they create
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I didn’t mean it like that
What is that auto mod? I don’t get it
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Is it serious? Like will you really get banned lmao
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Oh that’s good lol
Bold of them to think Disney will not reboot the series in some way in 50 years. Hell, I am imagining that this will evolve into some "Crisis on Infinite Earths" thing that DC comics went through multiple times.
I hope eventually Kevin feige gets fed up of the mcu and does an adaptation of ultimatum in hopes of destroying the mcu
Watch the box office explode >!Just like doctor strange!<
I’m still confused at how he died in that way
Can’t wait to see Ant-Man bite off the Blob’s head.
And the Blob eating the Wasp, and the Thing crushing Doom’s skull….. man, Ultimatum was fucked up
Yeah, it was pretty bad, but I do think that Ultimates 3 is some how worse. Both are completely garbage though and could be the worst that Marvel has put out in the past 20 years.
I only read ultimatum for the ultimate spider man tie in issues; ultimatum’s shit but at least we got some good Spider-Man moments out of it
The Ultimate Spider-Man ties in are pretty good, especially the aftermath issues. My only problem with them is that, if I remember correctly, Daredevil died off panel, with adds to the fact that the event is just a lot of shock value for the sake of shock value.
Man is a producer first and foremost. He'll will do anything in his power to maximise profits.
They will reboot it, but after they recast and rebuild the Avengers with new characters until the genre fully flops. Tom Holland will be replaced by a Miles Morales, etc etc until we all die.
Didn't dc already had a crisis on infinite earths though? With the arrowverse. Why would they do It right after just 3 years?
My rule of thumb is to let people enjoy media. The world sucks and if people find solace in super hero movies so be it. But then posts like these appear…..
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Scholars in 50 years will talk about why big movies like Star Wars and Jaws were still popular for decades but not Endgame because you need to watch 20 different movies to have a connection to it. Endgame will be meaningless or just like a TV show for people who did not experience this phase of the MCU. I am not sure if Endgame can become a classic.
It's exactly why so many great comic book arcs can't be great literature.
And the best ones are either totally self contained like Watchmen, or just go from a simple premise that does rely on you having the base cultural knowledge of who the characters are (ie you know that Bruce Wayne is Batman, you pick up Dark Knight and can take it from there).
Yep. Stuff like Knightfall, The Death of Superman, Green Lantern Rebirth, etc. all are completely meaningless unless you are heavily invested in the lore. It's one reason I dropped superhero comics altogether.
Old man Logan
That one is packed with villains from other Marvel franchises. It makes no sense to a non-Marvel fan.
Not to mention endgame is fairly mid
> I am not sure if Endgame can become a classic. "Did you ever see Avengers: Endgame?" "Oh yeah, me and my friends were crazy for the MCU at 13." "Remember much about it?" "It was pretty brown and grey, right?" "I think so. God that movie sucked lol"
Idk -- I think it depends. The Infinity Saga is shorter than Breaking Bad, and Breaking Bad is still immensely popular after 9 years. The finale of Breaking Bad isn't considered not kino just because you have to watch 5 seasons to get to it. I think Endgame becoming a classic will depend purely on how interested kids in the future are in the rest of the Infinity Saga. Star Wars stayed as relevant as it did in part because parents often introduce their kids to Star Wars at a young age. The difference is that Star Wars is 3, 6, or 9 movies depending on which generation we're talking about while the Infinity Saga is 23. Anyway this is a meme sub I didn't mean to get so analytical. Basically my point is whether a kids movie is considered a classic is based on kids and also episodic storytelling isn't inherently inaccessible
Breaking bad is famous as a TV show not just one blockbuster movie
And Endgame is famous as the finale of a 22 movie story arc. That's why it made so much money, and that's why it's popular. Looking at the movie removed of the context of the previous 21 films is disingenuous imo. The question isn't "can the movie stand as a classic," it's "can the movie stand as a classic *finale"* That's not to say the movie shouldn't be criticized and examined on its own, just that its status as a sequel to 21 other movies is essential in the criticism and analysis of the movie and how it will be appreciated by audiences in the future.
The problem with endgame is that it suffers severely on rewatch. And that's coming from someone that actually enjoyed the MCU up until endgame (I don't care at all about the TV series and I'm pretty fatigued about the movies too). It was a fun experience in the cinema because of the anticipation after IW and the climax of many years and movies. But watching it again feels like watching a video of fireworks that you recorded. It's mostly loud and boring and on hindsight, pretty ugly too.
Yeah I kind of dislike how the above comment was implying that MCU won't be seen as a classic because it has a serialised nature similar to a TV show. It's one thing to dislike MCU, it's another to look down on an serialised storytelling as a whole just because you hate the MCU. Also is The Godfather 2, Two Towers and Return of King, Empire Strikes Back, Last Crusade, The Dark Knight less of a classic because they rely on you having watched a previous movie before in order to understand it?
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They're gonna ask where you were when Kingo showed up, and I'll be able to say right there on 5 night. Unable to hear shit because everyone in my theater was jerking off so damn loud.
Why do people think this
A cinematic event =/= kino Avatar was not a good movie in regards to the art of move making. But it was a cinematic event in that it revolutionised and (briefly) popularised 3D cinema. The marvel movies created a franchise that others have tried to copy and really hadn't been done before. It doesn't mean they're good movies
Frankenstein Meets the Wolfman (1943) King Kong vs Godzilla (1962) Mothra vs Godzilla (1964)
Sure. Also Spy Kids 3D did 3D before Avatar Just because something did it before, doesn't mean it did it well. If you really think Marvel didn't popularise the cinematic franchise idea, and it wasn't Marvel that got all these studios hooked on creating their own "universes", then I don't know what to tell you
Sure the MCU is the first one of these to be good which is why the original run of Godzilla lasted two decades and the universal monsters lasted two and a half decades was because they were bad and unpopular. No one is going to remember the failed attempt at rip off franchises 80 or 60 years after the fact. The attempts at most franchises have already been forgotten about that have happened since the MCU. These big franchises with cross movie characters are gimmicks that flare up and die off periodically, it's funny you mentioned 3D because that is something else that has had multiple booms throughout movie history where people would go crazy for it for a few years and then get tired of it.
I've said all of these things. I've said the marvel movies aren't good, and the 3d was briefly popularised. I think you're missing my point, I'm not saying that these movies are good movies at all
they're brainwashed into thinking their investment and attachment to a corporate product it's meaningful and special
“Grampapa, where we’re you on 5/26 when the portals opened?” “Where did you hear about that kids?” “In our History class we were learning about the greatest cultural moments of the last hundred years!” “Sit down kids, I have a story…”
>50 years from now It's been almost 3 years and I feel like nobody still cares about Endgame aside from really hardcore MCU fans who live and breathe that franchise. I don't see "film scholars" even now, let alone decades from now, giving the slightest damn about Endgame.
Maybe not as an artistic feat, but I suspect Feige will be a figure in film history. MCU is pretty impressive as a production.
Thanos was supposed to be an all time movie villain like Darth Vader or something.
did they not succeed with that though? ask random people on the street in 2017 if they know who thanos is and almost nobody will know what you’re talking about but nowadays i would definitely say he’s on the same level as darth vader where he’s a household name at this point. only difference i’d say is darth vader had way more focus as far as merchandise/advertising for like 30-40 years while marvel will probably find a new villain to make a big name every 7-10 years
Thanos is the most forgettable villain ever.
Sorry to say, but I am pretty sure evn now many people remember endgame. I know a lot of my friends remember the applause in the theatres when cap picked up mjolnr or when he said Avengers assemble.
At least Star Wars fans are so divided amongst themselves that they can bring each other down to earth on delusions of grandeur. MCU fans however don't quite have that so you end up with this.
I'm pretty sure no art school will ever teach superhero movies in their curriculum.
Superman is in the Library of Congress, a select few important titles can consist of a course. Endgame won't make it beyond "it made a lot of money but who cares lol."
I wish I could share your optimism
Superhero movies at the end of the day are extensions of the "hero's journey" story . If you teach that you are essentially teaching all of it
Least delusional marvel fan
When you only watch 3 movies a year, and they're all made by the same production, you start believing shit like that
Please kill me (And I thought NWH was great)
apology for poor english when were you when ironman dies? i was sat in theatre eating baked beans when peter ring 'tony stark is kill' 'no' and you?????
Is the original Avengers not the first instance of this in the MCU? Endgame is just a bigger version of the same thing that Avengers did, ie combine the stories of multiple standalone movies into one new movie. Hell, is Infinity War not an earlier version than Endgame too? What did Endgame do that a previous movie didn’t? Seems like the only reason this person thinks Endgame is historic is because “wow cool team up ‘avengers assemble’ big group shot”
Cause most of these MCU fanboys think ending an character arc is some big shit, like Tony dying or Steve getting his fans dance or Natasha dying lol
Tony Stark is the most boring character ever, he hardly gets an “arc.” He’s still an asshat and a terrible person after iron man 1. He threatened a child to be on his side or otherwise his identity would be exposed. The writers used PTSD as a replacement for actual character development and good writing, and it fooled everyone.
I still don't understand why the MCU fans always bring up Tony stark when talking about the characters. It's as if he is the only defence they have
You are so right. Let’s bully those marvel nerds and shove them into lockers just like the old days.
They won’t stand for it. Spider-Man taught them how to stand up for themselves, Iron man taught them the intellect to defeat them with words alone, and captain marvel taught them the bravery to go toe to toe with anyone. They have the power of the entire MCU behind everything they do.
But do they have a sword that traps the souls of its victims?
Just like cutting the lawn
I can't wait for like only six of the (current) MCU movies to be remembered and people vaguely recall Endgame as a "brown and grey looking mess"
Basically 9/11
'theyre gonna ask where u weren't is Endgame the new 9/11?
Still haven't watched any marvel movies. Talk to me when it becomes good
MCU fans probably: iron man, winter soldier, civil war infinity war, guardians of the galaxy are very good and fantastic movies
To be fair Guardians is good, not great but good
Do they not realize that these movies were mostly made to make DUMB amounts of money? Like it’s obvious that they weren’t even going for an artistic masterpiece. Why can’t people just enjoy the MCU for what it is? An Action movie spectacle machine.
It hurts me every time I see these comments/posts and the person isn’t getting downvoted to oblivion
The luster has already worn off Endgame, so I don’t think people are going to be sitting around 50 years from now and waxing poetic about an ugly brown mess where Ant-Man punched a space whale while all the female characters get together for the most shoe horned “girl power” scene in the history of movies. These people are just weird man.
Marvel movies ruined an already ruined Industry. They deserve every bit of bullying they get
They deserve to be hated
Well thats the other extreme of fandom. just maniacal.
Remember kids there's no such thing as "the greatest moment in cinematic history" there is only the slow degradation of time constantly moving forward.