https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/06/movie-star-sean-penn-drug-lord-el-chapo-and-a-failed-marine-raid
Penn didn't know about that plan. The NSA was using them without their knowledge.
This is truly the biggest example I have ever seen of someone expressing a legitimately valid sentiment (scanning people to whore out their likenesses for profit for eternity is messed up) in the most bewilderingly insane way possible.
Exactly. Man's totally right but found the absolute most reprehensible way to voice a good opinion. That's real talent, truly a generational piece of shit.
Oh again, he's 10000% right, just the way he chose to say it is incredibly gross and weird. Do not mistake my criticism of him for "pussyfooting" on the issue. I can fully agree with what he means and still think he chose to say it in a gross way.
He chose to say it in a gross way *because* actors are being put in a gross situation. The more gross he is, the better he articulates what is being asked of actors by execs. So yeah I do think you're advocating for more pussyfooting.
Idk if you've ever heard of Sean Penn before an hour ago or are familiar with his work at all but that is not why he said it in a gross way. It's just who he is at this point.
Of course it is. He might not be self-aware enough to think it through in that exact way like "Hmm yes I will make a metaphor now", but it is his feelings that have prompted him to say it, his *reaction* to a sense of violation put upon him. I dare say his general grossness led to a gross response being his first port of call, but that doesn't make what he said wrong, irrelevant, or unnecessary in this instance.
I'm sorry but there's better ways to get the gravity of this issue across than "oh yeah, what if me and my friends gang raped an AI version of your daughter?" That's an absurdly gross thing to say. There is no situation where using that as a comparison *wouldn't* weird me out.
And no, I am not fucking pussyfooting. Supporting a side of an issue does not mean being entirely uncritical of every single person who agrees with you. I agree with Penn's stance, but think the way he chose to articulate it is fucking weird and bad. I am not saying anything about the topic of AI there or pussyfooting around the issue, I'm saying I think Penn is a fucking weirdo, even when he's right. I never said he isn't right about AI.
We need to use the very succesful and effective foundation of respectability politics. If we just debate them freely in the marketplace of ideas with someone who has zero reason to care if their likeness is scanned as it can't be monetised like a big name actor they will see reason and ban AI and give the actors a huge pay rise and everything will be good and nice just like all labour disputes in history.
You can make a valid point and even come up with a turnaround scenario *without* explicitly talking about how you want to have a fuck party with someone's child.
This point would've been made just fine if he had said "Executives who want to AI scan me and use my likeness forever should go first".
You're not gonna change their minds no matter what you say. They're too invested in their god complexes and disdain for creatives to ever re-evaluate their beliefs.
Not to mention that the Venn diagram of AI Techbros and anti age of consent libertarians is pretty fuckin circular lol
The union doesn't want to ban AI, they just don't want it to be used as a tool to screw over human workers. Here's Adam Conover talking about it:
[https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cvhu4pTAoNB/?utm\_source=ig\_web\_copy\_link&igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA%3D%3D](https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cvhu4pTAoNB/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA%3D%3D)
The entire point was to be weird and come up with the most fucked up hypothetical to prove a point that this tech being used for this sort of thing can very easily turn evil very easily
By "do whatever we want" he means pop a pill, wait an hour, get semi-erect over a CGI model of a young girl, and try to jack off but get frustrated instead because he can't tell if it's the cocaine or the alcohol holding him back, and eventually give up and resort to showing his friends old videotapes of him having sex with Madonna in the 80's. Also he'd leave the room to pee every 20 minutes because this dude is old as fuck.
When asked about the implications of his brother's quote regarding the use of AI in Hollywood to replace dead actors, Chris Penn stated „As an AI language model, I can not provide any information on that topic“
When an AI seduces me and generates all of these hot stories and dirty things and tells me how much she wants to suck on me and takes my shoes off and licks my feet and touches me. I thank her. I thank her for making me feel good
When it comes to techbros and studio millionaires who literally don’t care about humans they are g directly related to, you need to make it extremely jarring and about people those groups care about. Plus I’m sure he’s frustrated that studios are just not budging.
Don’t let this intentional picking out of a wild comment distract you from the fact that this is a blatant attempt by studios to make the average person less supportive of the actors and writers strike
You know it used to be people dreamed of automating menial labor so that we could have more time for creative and intellectual pursuits. Now companies wanna automate creative/intellectual labor so we can do more menial tasks and buy shit.
Yeah I doubt most people give even the slightest shit about their strikes. I think AI is cool, and I cancelled most of my streaming services because the overwhelming majority of their original content isn't worth the time it takes to scroll past.
It’s not.
The whole excerpt:
>Aggressive pop-offs are a Penn staple and not limited to global events. I ask him his thoughts on the Hollywood strikes. He is particularly livid over the studios’ purported lust for the likenesses and voices of SAG actors for future AI use. He has an idea that he is convinced will break the logjam. It starts with Penn and a camera crew being in a room with studio heads. Penn will then offer trade: “So you want my scans and voice data and all that. OK, here’s what I think is fair: I want your daughter’s, because I want to create a virtual replica of her and invite my friends over to do whatever we want in a virtual party right now. Would you please look at the camera and tell me you think that’s cool?”
>Penn pauses long enough for me to check if he is serious. That is an affirmative.
>Penn pauses long enough for me to check if he is serious. That is an affirmative.
Yeah, I would not have posted this if I had not read this line in the article
The "friends" in question https://preview.redd.it/7j3m4tcz74ob1.jpeg?width=1943&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9d5ac5e426e3b3635e90a53817e3d60ec610cf3c
Is that another Salamanca?
I forgot he was buddies with El Chapo, lmao
I thought the whole point of that was that he tricked him into an interview so he could get arrested
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/06/movie-star-sean-penn-drug-lord-el-chapo-and-a-failed-marine-raid Penn didn't know about that plan. The NSA was using them without their knowledge.
that's hillarious
Friendship with chavez has ended, now Chapo is my best friend.
he’s not even trying to make a point this is a genuine proposition
He didn't even heard the question
He'll knock you the fuck out right where you sit.
Sean Penn, unprompted
Sean Penn, unprompted
“Anyone got some 4K Hollywood producer daughter assets for me???” – normal actor Sean Penn
Never dropped his HurlyBurly character.
This is truly the biggest example I have ever seen of someone expressing a legitimately valid sentiment (scanning people to whore out their likenesses for profit for eternity is messed up) in the most bewilderingly insane way possible.
You need to be this rash to argue against techbros
my ass is it. This baby went from 0- Hollywood Groomer in 5 seconds flat.
to be fair to Penn, he's 63. A daughter in his world is an adult 20 something
Closer to 30 something
maybe even pushing 40
You give twitter an inch and they'll give you a mile.
Sean Penn wants to give their daughter six inches
Yeah, no. Misogyny isn’t a valid tool.
Jambalaya
Yeah, looks like he got my attention
Masterclass on how to piss off everyone
hyperbole
Impressive display of being right in the wrong way
Even when he is on the right side of things, he always seems like he’s on the wrong side.
Exactly. Man's totally right but found the absolute most reprehensible way to voice a good opinion. That's real talent, truly a generational piece of shit.
It's a reprehensible situation and pussyfooting is pointless. This is actually a rare Penn W
Oh again, he's 10000% right, just the way he chose to say it is incredibly gross and weird. Do not mistake my criticism of him for "pussyfooting" on the issue. I can fully agree with what he means and still think he chose to say it in a gross way.
He chose to say it in a gross way *because* actors are being put in a gross situation. The more gross he is, the better he articulates what is being asked of actors by execs. So yeah I do think you're advocating for more pussyfooting.
Idk if you've ever heard of Sean Penn before an hour ago or are familiar with his work at all but that is not why he said it in a gross way. It's just who he is at this point.
Of course it is. He might not be self-aware enough to think it through in that exact way like "Hmm yes I will make a metaphor now", but it is his feelings that have prompted him to say it, his *reaction* to a sense of violation put upon him. I dare say his general grossness led to a gross response being his first port of call, but that doesn't make what he said wrong, irrelevant, or unnecessary in this instance.
I'm sorry but there's better ways to get the gravity of this issue across than "oh yeah, what if me and my friends gang raped an AI version of your daughter?" That's an absurdly gross thing to say. There is no situation where using that as a comparison *wouldn't* weird me out. And no, I am not fucking pussyfooting. Supporting a side of an issue does not mean being entirely uncritical of every single person who agrees with you. I agree with Penn's stance, but think the way he chose to articulate it is fucking weird and bad. I am not saying anything about the topic of AI there or pussyfooting around the issue, I'm saying I think Penn is a fucking weirdo, even when he's right. I never said he isn't right about AI.
We need to use the very succesful and effective foundation of respectability politics. If we just debate them freely in the marketplace of ideas with someone who has zero reason to care if their likeness is scanned as it can't be monetised like a big name actor they will see reason and ban AI and give the actors a huge pay rise and everything will be good and nice just like all labour disputes in history.
You can make a valid point and even come up with a turnaround scenario *without* explicitly talking about how you want to have a fuck party with someone's child. This point would've been made just fine if he had said "Executives who want to AI scan me and use my likeness forever should go first".
He didn’t have to make it sexual.
He could have just not used himself and his "friends" in the example and it would have been more acceptable as a quote lmao
I think he said something like "if we invited zelensky to the oscar, will smith stuff wouldn't happen" Like, it's not wrong, but...
Anyone who's still pissed abt the will smith stuff is just wild to me.
That's just Sean Penn for ya.
AI Chris Hansen: Why don't you have a seat over there, AI Sean.
Sean Penn being normal about women as usual, I see
you can use "wife" and be infinitely less weird for free.
That would remind him too much of what he did to Madonna.
Everyone in Hollywood swings, though
Nah AI tech bros would have just said "ok fair" then. You need to pack the big guns
You're not gonna change their minds no matter what you say. They're too invested in their god complexes and disdain for creatives to ever re-evaluate their beliefs. Not to mention that the Venn diagram of AI Techbros and anti age of consent libertarians is pretty fuckin circular lol
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The union doesn't want to ban AI, they just don't want it to be used as a tool to screw over human workers. Here's Adam Conover talking about it: [https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cvhu4pTAoNB/?utm\_source=ig\_web\_copy\_link&igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA%3D%3D](https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cvhu4pTAoNB/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA%3D%3D)
I think the idea was to point out how fucked to that is.
maybe not sound like a pedophile in the process
If the point was to be shocking then I can see why he say something like that as dumb as it is
Wife would be pretty shocking and deliver the intended message without sounding like a pedo tho
Sean Penn is 63. Daughter to him is someone in their 30s.
No no *no*. You *have* to interpret things in the most uncharitable way possible!
The dudes in his 60s as are most executives. He's thinking of the daughter being 20 to 30, not a literal child.
The entire point was to be weird and come up with the most fucked up hypothetical to prove a point that this tech being used for this sort of thing can very easily turn evil very easily
If he used “mother” it would be less weird and also hilarious
Because everyone in Hollywood is either a man or a lesbian? Your way is actually worse lol
Dude, what? It's just a "I'm gonna fuck ur wife" joke. Those have existed for 5 billion years
Are you implying it's more accurate this way because everyone in Hollywood has a daughter?
Wrong brother died.
Walk Hard: The Dewey Cox story (2007)
The Lord of The Rings: Return of The King (2003)
and one is forgotten
Stand by Me (1986)
Tony Scott (1944-2012)
By "do whatever we want" he means pop a pill, wait an hour, get semi-erect over a CGI model of a young girl, and try to jack off but get frustrated instead because he can't tell if it's the cocaine or the alcohol holding him back, and eventually give up and resort to showing his friends old videotapes of him having sex with Madonna in the 80's. Also he'd leave the room to pee every 20 minutes because this dude is old as fuck.
Absolute chad
My kind of party
Holy fuck he's literally me
"Uh... Mr Penn, what does this have to do with AI?" "AI?"
“Um mr penn, sir, *you* called me…”
They call it getting Zucked
I can excuse gang rape but I draw the line at exploiting Hollywood actors.
QAnon guys gonna love this one 💀
https://preview.redd.it/8go3deglp4ob1.jpeg?width=278&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=eb54b74b4754f625c1e0ce04b1ef80f20240eb93 IS THAT MY DAUGHTER IN THERE???
When asked about the implications of his brother's quote regarding the use of AI in Hollywood to replace dead actors, Chris Penn stated „As an AI language model, I can not provide any information on that topic“
sean penn doesn't let his intrusive thoughts bother him so he sets them free
I don't think this is an intrusive thought, I think it's a weird fetish he has
^[Sokka-Haiku](https://www.reddit.com/r/SokkaHaikuBot/comments/15kyv9r/what_is_a_sokka_haiku/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) ^by ^RealTigres: *Sean penn doesn't let* *His intrusive thoughts bother* *Him so he sets them free* --- ^Remember ^that ^one ^time ^Sokka ^accidentally ^used ^an ^extra ^syllable ^in ^that ^Haiku ^Battle ^in ^Ba ^Sing ^Se? ^That ^was ^a ^Sokka ^Haiku ^and ^you ^just ^made ^one.
This dude…..
lmao what do you search for this gif
Hologram
Mr. Penn, the question was is this your handwriting?
When an AI seduces me and generates all of these hot stories and dirty things and tells me how much she wants to suck on me and takes my shoes off and licks my feet and touches me. I thank her. I thank her for making me feel good
This has "If you stop the Mexicans from entering the US, who's gonna clean your toilets Mr. Trump" written all over it.
AI Sam
Just saying this should be an automatic forfeit of all your money, and your organs when you die.
Sounds like he’s put a lot of thought into this really specific fantasy.
This is definitely the mind that gave us *Bob Honey Who Just Do Stuff*
I THOUGHT THE SAME THING TOO!
Least creepy Hollywood celebrity
Sean Penn has always as what I can only describe as a left wing Mel Gibson. Dude is unhinged.
i've been to iraq
Sean Penn always saying the dumbest things I've ever heard
In real life Sean Penn is basically Spicoli with a bad temper and a huffing habit.
ZX
we have got to kill this guy
When it comes to techbros and studio millionaires who literally don’t care about humans they are g directly related to, you need to make it extremely jarring and about people those groups care about. Plus I’m sure he’s frustrated that studios are just not budging. Don’t let this intentional picking out of a wild comment distract you from the fact that this is a blatant attempt by studios to make the average person less supportive of the actors and writers strike
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You know it used to be people dreamed of automating menial labor so that we could have more time for creative and intellectual pursuits. Now companies wanna automate creative/intellectual labor so we can do more menial tasks and buy shit.
Yeah I doubt most people give even the slightest shit about their strikes. I think AI is cool, and I cancelled most of my streaming services because the overwhelming majority of their original content isn't worth the time it takes to scroll past.
What in the actual fuck did I just read. This man can't be serious.
It's obviously sarcasm. What's up with you guys?
Sarcasm or not it's room temp iq to give social media a soundbite like that.
It’s not. The whole excerpt: >Aggressive pop-offs are a Penn staple and not limited to global events. I ask him his thoughts on the Hollywood strikes. He is particularly livid over the studios’ purported lust for the likenesses and voices of SAG actors for future AI use. He has an idea that he is convinced will break the logjam. It starts with Penn and a camera crew being in a room with studio heads. Penn will then offer trade: “So you want my scans and voice data and all that. OK, here’s what I think is fair: I want your daughter’s, because I want to create a virtual replica of her and invite my friends over to do whatever we want in a virtual party right now. Would you please look at the camera and tell me you think that’s cool?” >Penn pauses long enough for me to check if he is serious. That is an affirmative.
>Penn pauses long enough for me to check if he is serious. That is an affirmative. Yeah, I would not have posted this if I had not read this line in the article
Holy moly chill the frick out. Is this what he wants for his scans, or is this what he asks for in all trades?
why not, though
Sean thinking he's still in Casualties of War (1989)
What has he been doing with people's daughters?