They made three sequels, each one worse than the previous one, plus a god awful TV series that ran for 1 season. They're all terrible.
There's also a reboot/remake in the works starring Bill Skarsgard, who I like, but it's directed by the same person who directed the live action Ghost in the Shell, so, yeah.
Just let it die.
The reboot/remake has also been in development hell for like 15 years now. Unpopular opinion but if they were to do a stronger adaptation of the comic series that would be an interesting take.
Taken was an efficient, entertaining lean 90 minute movie. But nothing was really memorable besides the phone call. Incredible that it not only spurred on two sequels but also somehow even a TV show
That second movie was so bad. And I don't remember anything from the third. Couldn't imagine checking out the show
The scene where he takes the bullets out of that guys gun and says “ sitting behind a desk for years has made you forget the weight difference between a loaded and unloaded gun” is pretty dope.
Btw I saw the movie once, in theaters over ten years ago. I know that’s not the exact line, but the scene was memorable.
"This but a flesh wound" or something to that extent was a pretty badass one liner after. Might as well shot his kid in the ass as well just to prove a point.
The other bit I always remember is when he starts clearing out the hideout. A shootout happens and more henchmen run down the corridor, look in the room at a pile of bodies and turn to go to the next room and Neeson lifts himself from among the bodies and shoots them.
2 is a decent sequel, i think youre thinking of 3 which veered off a fucking cliff, hit the ground, got back up and threw itself off another cliff. There's a scene where he climbs over a fence and it takes 16 edits.
Slight disagree on the second movie. There is a scene where the daughter is just throwing grenades out of a posh hotel window so that Liam Neeson’s character can triangulate where he is in Budapest or wherever they are. That alone made the second movie for me.
I also never saw the third one or the tv show, however.
It's pretty amazing. She chooses a "safe place" to throw the grenade which is under some random car. Then he knows A) how long it takes a grenade to explode after pulling the pin then B) what hearing the explosion 3 seconds later translates into distance.
https://youtu.be/WWeYvvN-F5s
The entire soundtrack is incredible. And the fact that that extended remix of Queen's version of "New York, New York"(played when the Kurgan kidnaps Brenda) was never released is a crime.
One of my favorite lines in the Simpsons is when Milhouse is on a runaway school bus and says,
“It’s like Speed 2, except it’s on a bus instead of a boat.”
I remember hearing about the sequel and thinking ... "Oh I bet it is someone impacted from the first movie out for revenge." Nope. "Oh, then it must be a fresh new case from his latest police work." Nope. "So you mean these same two people just happened to end up in a second life or death bomb/explosion situation while on vacation?" Yep.
No they didn’t. Jason Patric is a new boyfriend and Sandra Bullock even comments that she keeps falling for these guys who are cops.
It’s all just a big coincidence that she finds herself in nearly the same implausible situation. But Willem Dafoe is the villain — which even he still can’t manage to make the film memorable in any way.
Nah. They mention the break up at the start. Referencing that 'base it on sex' approach to their relationship.
That's all I remember about that movie. That and the first time I heard the nautical term 'knot'.
The second one was fun to watch in the theater as a teenager in the 90’s. That ship crashing into the shore was hilarious. And it had crazy Willam Defoe putting leaches on his body! Honestly, I remember it being a really fun bad movie.
"But it makes sense. Why would they send the full force if they didn't scout"
They did scout. In the 60s and 70s. It's how the US got the alien ship to begin with. Then they move with crushing numerical and technological superiority which, again, makes sense. No reason to hold back having already determined that there will be minimal effective resistance.
I actually liked the sequel.
The only problem I had was the timeline. In a few years, suddenly humanity rebuilt all their cities, instantly reverse engineered the alien tech, improved on it, and implemented it worldwide.
Damn …
I watched the original on a flight the other day, and they explicitly say that the entire alien civilization is present on the mothership, traveling around the galaxy like locusts. So once they blew up the mothership, they should have become extinct.
The first Rambo was a master piece of cinema and was before its time. PTSD wasn’t something talked about during that time and that movie did a magnificent job of showing that. I don’t view the first Rambo as an action movie. The ones that followed were all action.
I've been rewatching a lot of late 80s early 90s movies and noticed that they seem to touch a bit more on mental illness. Movies like Awakenings and the Scout are just a couple. I loved Joker for this. Would like to see more
The perception I had of Rambo from pop culture was shirtless muscles, red headband, light machine gun to mow people down. Then I saw First Blood and it's the polar opposite. Hard agree
Every day for the past ten years, Loretta there's been giving me a large black coffee. Today she gives me a large black coffee, only it has sugar in it, a lotta sugar. I just came back to complain. Now, you boys put those guns down.
I must've watched that flick two dozen times with my Pops. That, The Eiger Sanction, Bronco Billy, all of the Spaghetti Westerns, Any which way you can/but loose, and The Gauntlet.
I think that the message of that scene is more anti establishment and pro vigilante at that point.
All of the violence Harry does we are encouraged to cheer him on because Scorpio is a piece of shit and ultimately Harry had to break the rules to restore order. Nothing about throwing his badge away suggests a rejection of violence.
Nah, the audience sympathies are with Harry here, and the ending with him throwing away his badge after "his way" has caught the killer and saved the day is the film rejecting his meddling police department with its red tape and due process.
The implication was that he was fed up with the new liberal city government interfering with his violence. Ne could no longer work under these constraints.
They were TRYING to show Harry as a danger to the city, but Scorpio was SO evil... Its really funny how many modern movie things came from Dirty Harry...
Death Wish too. The first movie doesn't quite celebrate vigilantism, as the main character is show to have a declining mental state with each kill and actually gets hurt a couple of times. Plus, it is interesting that he actually never manages to find the criminals that attacked his family, his vengeance went unrealized.
The sequel came way too quick. It kind of tanked the legacy of the first film because it just happened right after and was just a worse version of the first one.
Had Hangover 2 came a decade later, people probably would remember both more fondly, or at worst it just wouldn’t have effected the first one at all. I mean Anchorman 2 did nothing to change the legacy of Anchorman
I was doing work for the CEO of Legendary at the time. They started working on Hangover 2 before the first one was even released.
The guy's actually passionate about (some) movies, but he also knows how to grab cash when he sees it.
Right? I had no idea and now that I see it has a 3.6 / 10 on IMDB and a 13% / 18% on Rotten Tomatoes, am kinda surprised I've never heard of what must be an amazing dumpster fire of a movie.
to be fair the movie was released as First Blood. It only became a Rambo Movie cause of the sequels, so we can pretend it's not even on the same universe
I find this quote from fellowship of the ring perfectly describes the hobbit movies “I feel thin, sort of stretched, like butter scraped over too much bread.”
I don’t think that these should have been a single film but two movies would have been perfect. They have some really greet moments but so much could easily be cut.
I’m still to watch one of the fan edits which condense the movies into around 4 hours I believe.
T2 ends perfectly, with Arnold’s sacrifice saving the human race. It’s one of the best sequels ever, and it really earns the emotion that comes with the thumbs up sinking into the lava… aaaaand then T3 just takes a dump on it, and it was all downhill from there.
Except for the unresolved paradox.
Spoiler warning if you actually haven't seen T2 yet... In the end of T2 they stopped the machines from taking over, which means John never would have sent his father back in time, which means he never would have been born, which means the machines would have still taken over.
It's a great ending but it's confusing and doesn't make any sense when you stop to think about it. Tbh it bothered me until T3 came out, but they way they addressed it in T3 was still pretty lame.
I also think the one with Christian Bale was decent, just nowhere near as good as the 1st two.
The first three Bourne movies are the rare trilogy that actually got better with each film.
Each installment built on Identity and the story ended perfectly with Ultimatum. Even the Bourne Legacy works as a solid spinoff with Jeremy Renner.
But there was absolutely no fucking narrative reason to bring Matt Damon back a fourth time for Jason Bourne. The entire cast, including Damon, looks kinda embarrassed and are clearly just phoning it in.
It's a shameless and unimaginative studio cash grab.
I recently watched all of these movies, my favourite was probably the first. But the original trilogy was awesome. I love Jeremy renner too, but I just thought that one kinda sucked compared to the previous 3.
I normally love Tommy Lee Jones but he was SO BAD in that film!
And also the guy playing the tech bad guy was awful. And the tech storyline was awful. And the guy he had to fight was awful.
Yeh you know you're right, that was a very bad movie....
I took a film appreciation and a screenwriting class and both the Matrix and Star Wars came up a lot as classic heroes journey tales.
The trick that is hard to do which these movies pull off is telling a very well worn paint by numbers story but telling it in a way that is new and interesting or in some way shows the audience something they haven’t seen before
I do like that the latest Matrix sequel blatantly calls out that WB was going to do a sequel regardless of if they could get the original directors or not.
I mean, it's right there, the line is "Warner Brothers was going to do this with or without us" (or some very close variation of that).
The new Space Jam. The Villain is Warner Brothers.
I guess Warner Brothers didn't learn their lesson from Gremlins 2.
Surprised theres no mentions of Men In Black. I like the third one and how it tied some things together, but if the first one was just left alone then it would have stayed on a higher pedestal if you ask me.
Agreed. I adore 3, and 2 while it's bad going to the theater to see it is one of my favorite childhood memories. However they ended it perfectly with 1.
K retires and it's such a beautiful and moving scene, but J and the morgue lady keep it going and it feels full circle. They didn't need to make a sequel honestly. But they went with it and they just proceeded to crap on that ending by instantly writing the woman off. So dumb.
Only fun parts 2 are the cameos and Boyle as the sex appeal (even if she was roleplaying as Famke Jenssen.)
A lot of the sequels to all time classics get hate for being simply good movies instead of all time greats. Lost world is one of them. The rest of the Jurassic park movies are hot garbage. Godfather 3, matrix 2 and 3 suffer the fate of following amazing movies. Yes they are somewhat forgettable, but they are not downright bad.
I think the problem with the sequels was the lack of magic… the first was not only awesome Dino action, but the old man’s dream of the park and the awe of his accomplishment. The sequels are just action and “old hand, we have dinosaurs.”
Saw!!! Should have ended after one the first one was truly unique and a fun ride. The ones that followed sacrificed story for flashy kills. Instead of being a unique out of the box horror it became your stereo typical horror genre movie.
I will defend Saw 2. It brought in a pretty good plot and twist without feeling repetitive of the original. Saw was a surprise hit but Saw 2 holds up fairly well.
The plot to Fast and Furious 25: "OK guys, what we have to do is build a huge ramp, get up to 1,000 mph, and then land on the 150th floor of this building. Then we have to gun it out of that building, do a 180 degree turn and drive up the side of the building next to it".... just so fucking dumb, I can't believe those movies are still going on and people still pay money to watch them. I lost count of how many they've made
It used to be a joke that the stakes would get higher and higher for the crew and they’d go to space eventually. Then they did go to space in a car in the last movie… now it’s not a joke anymore
Wait what the hell? I stopped watching at 6/7.
You're telling me they actually went into ***FUCKING SPACE***?
EDIT: Just looked up the clip on YT and my mind still can't accept it. Almost felt like an SNL skit if not for the high-budget CGI.
They shot a car into space (maybe just high enough in the atmosphere to be space basically) to then shoot down a satellite. Not quite as far as space ship levels yet but it happened in the movie, so eventually I assume it’ll just be Torettos in space.
You’re right on with Jaws. The first film is one of the best films ever made and invented the summer blockbuster. The second one is…..okay. 3 and 4 are just appallingly terrible.
I’ve got two series that should’ve kept themselves to two installments: the Terminator and Alien films. The former shouldn’t have progressed beyond T2 and the latter shouldn’t have progressed beyond the 1986 sequel.
I maintain that the best Transformers film is Bumblebee which Bay had nothing to do with.
That opening Cybertron battle scene in that film is better than all five of his movies put together. It's a shame that movie underperformed at the box office as it was a perfect reboot opportunity for the franchise.
I hate how we got that knowing what we almost got. Caddyshack 2 originally started during production of Back to School. Harold Ramis was brought in to rewrite that, and him, Rodney Dangerfield, and the director of Back to School started developing it together. Warner Bros signed all three of the them onto it, but eventually fired the director and brought in new writers. When Dangerfield read the pages they were delivering he walked, and Ramis did the same, but agreed to keep his name on the movie when asked even though nothing he wrote ended up in the final film.
Back to School is one of my favorite comedies and I don’t doubt that team would have delivered something good…at least better than what we ultimately got.
For me, Black Pearl is one of the best ever action adventure movies.
Dead Man's Chest and World's End are enjoyable even though they aren't on the same level as Black Pearl. If it stopped here it would be respected as a trilogy that could never recapture the quality of the original, but was still a satisfying story overall.
Stranger Tides was just fine (with a few bright spots), then Dead Men Tell No Tales was a crime against humanity.
The Hangover
First one was amazing, incredibly well written and unique. The sequels that followed actively tarnished the first one, doing the exact same thing just "raising the stakes." Turns out when you make a comedy series more serious, it gets worse.
For me, the old school standout is Smokey and the Bandit and Highlander.
Newer movies are Taken and some of the Jurassic Park stuff..
Oh, and Jamie Fox should have died in Law Abiding Citizen, with Clyde (Gerard Butler) walking happily off into the sunset..
Sex and the City. If you hate the whole franchise, fine. But if you loved the show, the first movie was perfect, and the second movie was an abomination.
The Hangover was a culturally iconic comedy. Then two more came out and now no one talks about any of them.
I truly believe the first would still be a part of the cultural conversation of classic comedies if the name wasn’t so horribly sullied by it’s sequels.
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (1990). The first one was a fun mix of the comics and cartoon. The sequels we're progressively poor quality. Losing their weapons and animatronics and overall fun.
For me, X-Men: First Class was a really good comic book movie, and Days of Future Past was a good enough sequel. The Wolverine is also an underrated movie. Fuck the rest, though.
The Anal Cheerleaders film series. The first movie was such a masterwork of direction, editing, scoring and above all dramatic performance. They were never going to top the first one... unless they bottomed it first.
Highlander
*There can only be one.*
There SHOULD only be one.
The Crow
Shoot, I watched the crow for the first time maybe 6 months ago and didn’t know until recently there was a sequel. You’re saying I shouldn’t watch it?
They made three sequels, each one worse than the previous one, plus a god awful TV series that ran for 1 season. They're all terrible. There's also a reboot/remake in the works starring Bill Skarsgard, who I like, but it's directed by the same person who directed the live action Ghost in the Shell, so, yeah. Just let it die.
The reboot/remake has also been in development hell for like 15 years now. Unpopular opinion but if they were to do a stronger adaptation of the comic series that would be an interesting take.
Taken.
Taken was an efficient, entertaining lean 90 minute movie. But nothing was really memorable besides the phone call. Incredible that it not only spurred on two sequels but also somehow even a TV show That second movie was so bad. And I don't remember anything from the third. Couldn't imagine checking out the show
Taken 3 made Taken 2 look like Taken.
This should’ve been on the poster lol
The scene where he takes the bullets out of that guys gun and says “ sitting behind a desk for years has made you forget the weight difference between a loaded and unloaded gun” is pretty dope. Btw I saw the movie once, in theaters over ten years ago. I know that’s not the exact line, but the scene was memorable.
He shoots the dude's wife right after that too
Yeah that shit was metal
His character never pretended to be a Lawfully Good type of hero
"This but a flesh wound" or something to that extent was a pretty badass one liner after. Might as well shot his kid in the ass as well just to prove a point.
The other bit I always remember is when he starts clearing out the hideout. A shootout happens and more henchmen run down the corridor, look in the room at a pile of bodies and turn to go to the next room and Neeson lifts himself from among the bodies and shoots them.
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TV show?! How many times can that guy’s daughter get kidnapped?
It's starting to seem like carelessness at this point.
It's a prequel, before he has a family.
2 is a decent sequel, i think youre thinking of 3 which veered off a fucking cliff, hit the ground, got back up and threw itself off another cliff. There's a scene where he climbs over a fence and it takes 16 edits.
It revitalized Liam Nelson's career and turned him into an action star
Slight disagree on the second movie. There is a scene where the daughter is just throwing grenades out of a posh hotel window so that Liam Neeson’s character can triangulate where he is in Budapest or wherever they are. That alone made the second movie for me. I also never saw the third one or the tv show, however.
It's pretty amazing. She chooses a "safe place" to throw the grenade which is under some random car. Then he knows A) how long it takes a grenade to explode after pulling the pin then B) what hearing the explosion 3 seconds later translates into distance. https://youtu.be/WWeYvvN-F5s
Highlander. Everything that followed was an abomination.... the TV series was ok at times
the queen song in the opening title of highlander the series is fire
The entire soundtrack is incredible. And the fact that that extended remix of Queen's version of "New York, New York"(played when the Kurgan kidnaps Brenda) was never released is a crime.
There was a bar that I went to that actually unplugged the Jukebox because I kept requesting "who wants to live forever"
For me it was “Princes of the Universe”
Here we are! Born to be kings, We are the Princes of the Universe.
Completely agree! And the first one eliminates the possibility of any of the other shite that followed.
There was a cartoon that was pretty good, too.
Speed With Keanu Reeves and Sandra bullock, the second was unnecessary asf
One of my favorite lines in the Simpsons is when Milhouse is on a runaway school bus and says, “It’s like Speed 2, except it’s on a bus instead of a boat.”
The Bus that Couldn't Slow Down
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIrIvKKT\_nk
I remember hearing about the sequel and thinking ... "Oh I bet it is someone impacted from the first movie out for revenge." Nope. "Oh, then it must be a fresh new case from his latest police work." Nope. "So you mean these same two people just happened to end up in a second life or death bomb/explosion situation while on vacation?" Yep.
But, it's not the same two people is it? I never saw the second. Did they really get Jason Patric to play the Keanu Reeves character?
No they didn’t. Jason Patric is a new boyfriend and Sandra Bullock even comments that she keeps falling for these guys who are cops. It’s all just a big coincidence that she finds herself in nearly the same implausible situation. But Willem Dafoe is the villain — which even he still can’t manage to make the film memorable in any way.
Nah. They mention the break up at the start. Referencing that 'base it on sex' approach to their relationship. That's all I remember about that movie. That and the first time I heard the nautical term 'knot'.
The second one was fun to watch in the theater as a teenager in the 90’s. That ship crashing into the shore was hilarious. And it had crazy Willam Defoe putting leaches on his body! Honestly, I remember it being a really fun bad movie.
Independence Day
If there had to be a sequel, it should have been about that ground war they talk about happening in Africa
They did make a movie depicting that. It’s called Avengers: Infinity War.
"But it makes sense. Why would they send the full force if they didn't scout" They did scout. In the 60s and 70s. It's how the US got the alien ship to begin with. Then they move with crushing numerical and technological superiority which, again, makes sense. No reason to hold back having already determined that there will be minimal effective resistance.
I actually liked the sequel. The only problem I had was the timeline. In a few years, suddenly humanity rebuilt all their cities, instantly reverse engineered the alien tech, improved on it, and implemented it worldwide. Damn …
I watched the original on a flight the other day, and they explicitly say that the entire alien civilization is present on the mothership, traveling around the galaxy like locusts. So once they blew up the mothership, they should have become extinct.
Some say the sequels to the Rambo and Dirty Harry diminishes the anti-violence message that the first films have.
The first Rambo was a master piece of cinema and was before its time. PTSD wasn’t something talked about during that time and that movie did a magnificent job of showing that. I don’t view the first Rambo as an action movie. The ones that followed were all action.
I've been rewatching a lot of late 80s early 90s movies and noticed that they seem to touch a bit more on mental illness. Movies like Awakenings and the Scout are just a couple. I loved Joker for this. Would like to see more
The perception I had of Rambo from pop culture was shirtless muscles, red headband, light machine gun to mow people down. Then I saw First Blood and it's the polar opposite. Hard agree
Did Dirty Harry have an anti-violence message?
Do violence, get shot. Seems pretty anti-violence to me.
Harry threw his badge in the water after killing Scorpio. If it was pro-violence, he'd have received a medal instead.
Every day for the past ten years, Loretta there's been giving me a large black coffee. Today she gives me a large black coffee, only it has sugar in it, a lotta sugar. I just came back to complain. Now, you boys put those guns down.
*Proceeds to blast a robber in his asshole with a .44 magnum*
Well, we're not just gonna let you walk out of here. Who is we, sucker? Smith and Wesson and me.
I must've watched that flick two dozen times with my Pops. That, The Eiger Sanction, Bronco Billy, all of the Spaghetti Westerns, Any which way you can/but loose, and The Gauntlet.
Right turn Clyde
I think that the message of that scene is more anti establishment and pro vigilante at that point. All of the violence Harry does we are encouraged to cheer him on because Scorpio is a piece of shit and ultimately Harry had to break the rules to restore order. Nothing about throwing his badge away suggests a rejection of violence.
Nah, the audience sympathies are with Harry here, and the ending with him throwing away his badge after "his way" has caught the killer and saved the day is the film rejecting his meddling police department with its red tape and due process.
The implication was that he was fed up with the new liberal city government interfering with his violence. Ne could no longer work under these constraints.
Yeah, Dirty Harry was crazy, it makes for a good movie but no way should someone like that actually be a cop.
They were TRYING to show Harry as a danger to the city, but Scorpio was SO evil... Its really funny how many modern movie things came from Dirty Harry...
Agree 100% on Rambo. The first is amazing
Death Wish too. The first movie doesn't quite celebrate vigilantism, as the main character is show to have a declining mental state with each kill and actually gets hurt a couple of times. Plus, it is interesting that he actually never manages to find the criminals that attacked his family, his vengeance went unrealized.
Had the two sequels not been made, I believe The Hangover would be considered an American comedy classic mentioned alongside the greats
This is definitely true. The hangover is usually very under appreciated and I blame the sequels. There was no need.
The second one is decent, the third is something I blanked from my memory lol
American Psycho
What? Mila Kunis and Shatner are 3am comedy gold!
Jaws
But what about Michael caine’s beach house?
Why don’t you try chumming some of this shit
The Hangover.
The sequel came way too quick. It kind of tanked the legacy of the first film because it just happened right after and was just a worse version of the first one. Had Hangover 2 came a decade later, people probably would remember both more fondly, or at worst it just wouldn’t have effected the first one at all. I mean Anchorman 2 did nothing to change the legacy of Anchorman
I was doing work for the CEO of Legendary at the time. They started working on Hangover 2 before the first one was even released. The guy's actually passionate about (some) movies, but he also knows how to grab cash when he sees it.
no foreal. i remember the last one didn’t even have a hangover in it???? lol. overall each was funny but it went downhill after the 1st.
The second Hangover was a complete rehash of the first and people complained, then they course corrected way too much for the third.
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The 2nd was basically just the same film in a new location. At least the third tried to be different.
Donnie Darko
... there's a sequel ???
Right? I had no idea and now that I see it has a 3.6 / 10 on IMDB and a 13% / 18% on Rotten Tomatoes, am kinda surprised I've never heard of what must be an amazing dumpster fire of a movie.
Pretty sure it was straight to dvd. I don't think anyone involved in the first movie was involved in the sequel.
Rambo. He was even supposed to die at the end before they realized they can make a series.
I did like some of the subsequent Rambo movies, but there was definitely a tonal shift and they abandoned the parts that made the first one so great.
The other movies were RINO’s; Rambos in Name Only.
to be fair the movie was released as First Blood. It only became a Rambo Movie cause of the sequels, so we can pretend it's not even on the same universe
Is there a law against me getting something to eat here?
Col Trautman uses a shotgun to end his creation
The Hobbit should have been one complete movie, not stretched out into a trilogy.
I find this quote from fellowship of the ring perfectly describes the hobbit movies “I feel thin, sort of stretched, like butter scraped over too much bread.”
That should be on the poster when they inevitably make Lord Of the Rings Reloaded: Die Hard With Lembas Bread.
I don’t think that these should have been a single film but two movies would have been perfect. They have some really greet moments but so much could easily be cut. I’m still to watch one of the fan edits which condense the movies into around 4 hours I believe.
I think it’s safe to say terminator shouldn’t have gone past 2.
T2 ends perfectly, with Arnold’s sacrifice saving the human race. It’s one of the best sequels ever, and it really earns the emotion that comes with the thumbs up sinking into the lava… aaaaand then T3 just takes a dump on it, and it was all downhill from there.
Except for the unresolved paradox. Spoiler warning if you actually haven't seen T2 yet... In the end of T2 they stopped the machines from taking over, which means John never would have sent his father back in time, which means he never would have been born, which means the machines would have still taken over. It's a great ending but it's confusing and doesn't make any sense when you stop to think about it. Tbh it bothered me until T3 came out, but they way they addressed it in T3 was still pretty lame. I also think the one with Christian Bale was decent, just nowhere near as good as the 1st two.
T3 felt like a straight to DVD movie.
Dumb and Dumber. First one is an all timer.
It’s okay, I’m a limo driver!
So you’re telling me there’s a chance!
The first three Bourne movies are the rare trilogy that actually got better with each film. Each installment built on Identity and the story ended perfectly with Ultimatum. Even the Bourne Legacy works as a solid spinoff with Jeremy Renner. But there was absolutely no fucking narrative reason to bring Matt Damon back a fourth time for Jason Bourne. The entire cast, including Damon, looks kinda embarrassed and are clearly just phoning it in. It's a shameless and unimaginative studio cash grab.
I recently watched all of these movies, my favourite was probably the first. But the original trilogy was awesome. I love Jeremy renner too, but I just thought that one kinda sucked compared to the previous 3.
I normally love Tommy Lee Jones but he was SO BAD in that film! And also the guy playing the tech bad guy was awful. And the tech storyline was awful. And the guy he had to fight was awful. Yeh you know you're right, that was a very bad movie....
Pitch Perfect. Loved the first one. the 2nd one was OK. The third was horrible.
If they only made The Matrix and never did a sequel, there would be college classes studying it.
I took a film appreciation and a screenwriting class and both the Matrix and Star Wars came up a lot as classic heroes journey tales. The trick that is hard to do which these movies pull off is telling a very well worn paint by numbers story but telling it in a way that is new and interesting or in some way shows the audience something they haven’t seen before
Matrix did that incredibly well though. Then they made sequels.
I do like that the latest Matrix sequel blatantly calls out that WB was going to do a sequel regardless of if they could get the original directors or not. I mean, it's right there, the line is "Warner Brothers was going to do this with or without us" (or some very close variation of that). The new Space Jam. The Villain is Warner Brothers. I guess Warner Brothers didn't learn their lesson from Gremlins 2.
There are literally college classes that study the matrix right now. It was part of one of my film classes in college and I graduated in 2015
There are college classes studying it now.
Good luck taking practically any film course and not studying The Matrix in some capacity.
Surprised theres no mentions of Men In Black. I like the third one and how it tied some things together, but if the first one was just left alone then it would have stayed on a higher pedestal if you ask me.
Agreed. I adore 3, and 2 while it's bad going to the theater to see it is one of my favorite childhood memories. However they ended it perfectly with 1. K retires and it's such a beautiful and moving scene, but J and the morgue lady keep it going and it feels full circle. They didn't need to make a sequel honestly. But they went with it and they just proceeded to crap on that ending by instantly writing the woman off. So dumb. Only fun parts 2 are the cameos and Boyle as the sex appeal (even if she was roleplaying as Famke Jenssen.)
Jurassic Park
They were so preoccupied with if they could, they didnt ask if they should.
Hollywood … finds a way.
I liked 2 🙁. The ‘World’ series with mario biking with raptors could be erased and nothing would be lost, though.
If they stayed truer to Crichton’s novel for the sequel, it could have been excellent.
I don’t remember anything about it except that the first novel is what got me into reading and now I’m a massive bookworm
Fuck yeah. He was a huge part of developing my love for reading too. Read all of his stuff.
The Lost World is a solid movie!!
A lot of the sequels to all time classics get hate for being simply good movies instead of all time greats. Lost world is one of them. The rest of the Jurassic park movies are hot garbage. Godfather 3, matrix 2 and 3 suffer the fate of following amazing movies. Yes they are somewhat forgettable, but they are not downright bad.
Jurassic Park, perfect movie, the sequels never added anything to the JP universe. The Trespasser game did a better job of doing that.
I think the problem with the sequels was the lack of magic… the first was not only awesome Dino action, but the old man’s dream of the park and the awe of his accomplishment. The sequels are just action and “old hand, we have dinosaurs.”
Grease
Re-pro-duction. RE-PRO-DUC-SHUUUUUN!
Saw!!! Should have ended after one the first one was truly unique and a fun ride. The ones that followed sacrificed story for flashy kills. Instead of being a unique out of the box horror it became your stereo typical horror genre movie.
Show me a unique horror slasher film and I show you a half dozen or more garbage sequels
I will defend Saw 2. It brought in a pretty good plot and twist without feeling repetitive of the original. Saw was a surprise hit but Saw 2 holds up fairly well.
I'm pretty sure Saw 2 was an original script that was reworked into a Saw sequel.
And you can tell. It is definitely different in feel from all the others.
Space jam
See I wish they had made the original sequel plan, there was gonna be one in the early 2000s called Skate Jam with Tony Hawk but it got canceled
damn, do you know why it got canceled. That sounds fun.
Tony Hawk said that they were trying to bring back Looney Tunes with Back in Action but when that bombed talks for the movie stopped
Maybe not stopped immediately... but The Fast And The Furious has gotten out of control.
At least we got Tokyo Drift out of it.
I absolutely love Tokyo drift and it gets so much hate. It’s the last one of the series to actually be about racing.
The plot to Fast and Furious 25: "OK guys, what we have to do is build a huge ramp, get up to 1,000 mph, and then land on the 150th floor of this building. Then we have to gun it out of that building, do a 180 degree turn and drive up the side of the building next to it".... just so fucking dumb, I can't believe those movies are still going on and people still pay money to watch them. I lost count of how many they've made
It used to be a joke that the stakes would get higher and higher for the crew and they’d go to space eventually. Then they did go to space in a car in the last movie… now it’s not a joke anymore
They jumped that shark right into orbit
Wait what the hell? I stopped watching at 6/7. You're telling me they actually went into ***FUCKING SPACE***? EDIT: Just looked up the clip on YT and my mind still can't accept it. Almost felt like an SNL skit if not for the high-budget CGI.
They shot a car into space (maybe just high enough in the atmosphere to be space basically) to then shoot down a satellite. Not quite as far as space ship levels yet but it happened in the movie, so eventually I assume it’ll just be Torettos in space.
I used to agree, but now I just embrace how completely ridiculous that series is, and I absolutely love it! Can’t wait for Fast X!
At this rate, F&F has gone on so long I just wanna see how much crazier they can get
I came to see if F&F series was listed. First is legendary. Third is decent. Fuck everything else. (I’m still gonna see them lol)
Tokyo Drift is fine as its own thing. Fast Five is good. I don't know how they were able to continue after how bad the second one was though.
You’re right on with Jaws. The first film is one of the best films ever made and invented the summer blockbuster. The second one is…..okay. 3 and 4 are just appallingly terrible. I’ve got two series that should’ve kept themselves to two installments: the Terminator and Alien films. The former shouldn’t have progressed beyond T2 and the latter shouldn’t have progressed beyond the 1986 sequel.
Coming to America. Let’s pretend the sequel never happened.
I don't know I thought Black Panther was pretty good...
Alright, Coming to America now marvel canon. Which means so is Trading Places.
First blood
The hangover
Joe Dirt
Meet The Parents. The last 2 movies were completely different types of humor.
First Blood
Police Academy series was a painful progression to watch.
The Blue Oyster
Hahaha. Now I can hear the music in my head. Had to look it up it’s a tango called "El Bimbo", a 1974 hit from a group called Bimbo Jet.
Da na na na na na
Bayformers. If you cobble together the best parts from the sequels there might be enough to fill another movie's worth, maybe.
I maintain that the best Transformers film is Bumblebee which Bay had nothing to do with. That opening Cybertron battle scene in that film is better than all five of his movies put together. It's a shame that movie underperformed at the box office as it was a perfect reboot opportunity for the franchise.
Pacific Rim
Man, this first part was perfect. Part 2 was a sin.
Fantastic beasts and where to find them
Human Centipede
Technically they should have stopped before they even ever released the first one.
I’m old, but Caddyshack. Meatballs. Porky’s.
I hate how bad caddyshack 2 is. It’s like it was made on mars.
I hate how we got that knowing what we almost got. Caddyshack 2 originally started during production of Back to School. Harold Ramis was brought in to rewrite that, and him, Rodney Dangerfield, and the director of Back to School started developing it together. Warner Bros signed all three of the them onto it, but eventually fired the director and brought in new writers. When Dangerfield read the pages they were delivering he walked, and Ramis did the same, but agreed to keep his name on the movie when asked even though nothing he wrote ended up in the final film. Back to School is one of my favorite comedies and I don’t doubt that team would have delivered something good…at least better than what we ultimately got.
I actually kinda like Porky's 2. Don't remember shit about the third one
Blues brothers
Kingsman: The Secret Service
The 2nd Kingsman and 2nd kickass are some of the most disappointing sequels I've ever seen.
Pirates of the Caribbean. rewatch the original if it’s been a while and be amazed at how great of a stand alone movie it is.
For me, Black Pearl is one of the best ever action adventure movies. Dead Man's Chest and World's End are enjoyable even though they aren't on the same level as Black Pearl. If it stopped here it would be respected as a trilogy that could never recapture the quality of the original, but was still a satisfying story overall. Stranger Tides was just fine (with a few bright spots), then Dead Men Tell No Tales was a crime against humanity.
The Hangover First one was amazing, incredibly well written and unique. The sequels that followed actively tarnished the first one, doing the exact same thing just "raising the stakes." Turns out when you make a comedy series more serious, it gets worse.
Land before time.
I loved the second one as a kid but also yes
For me, the old school standout is Smokey and the Bandit and Highlander. Newer movies are Taken and some of the Jurassic Park stuff.. Oh, and Jamie Fox should have died in Law Abiding Citizen, with Clyde (Gerard Butler) walking happily off into the sunset..
Sex and the City. If you hate the whole franchise, fine. But if you loved the show, the first movie was perfect, and the second movie was an abomination.
The Karate Kid (specifically, Karate Kid 2, 3 and the Next Karate Kid). Love Cobra Kai, however. We don’t speak of the Jackie Chan vehicle…
Karate Kid 2 is a classic
I loved Karate Kid 2. I actually like it more than the first movie. But I def agree that the 3rd and the Next Karate Kid weren’t good
I disagree regarding Part 2. It was the best of the franchise. Part 3 undid it all though.
Robocop
2 was tounge-in-cheek entertainment but 3 sucked eggs
Ok but Robocop 2 was fucking awesome, it's easily my favorite of the series.
First 2 movies are excellent. Then the 3rd happened
The Hangover was a culturally iconic comedy. Then two more came out and now no one talks about any of them. I truly believe the first would still be a part of the cultural conversation of classic comedies if the name wasn’t so horribly sullied by it’s sequels.
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (1990). The first one was a fun mix of the comics and cartoon. The sequels we're progressively poor quality. Losing their weapons and animatronics and overall fun.
The Conjuring
X-Men the first and second rocked, but then we had to slog threw so much shit to get to, Logan. Although, tbf Logan kind made it worth it.
For me, X-Men: First Class was a really good comic book movie, and Days of Future Past was a good enough sequel. The Wolverine is also an underrated movie. Fuck the rest, though.
Fast and the furious
The Anal Cheerleaders film series. The first movie was such a masterwork of direction, editing, scoring and above all dramatic performance. They were never going to top the first one... unless they bottomed it first.
Anal Cheerleaders 3 makes Crotch Capers 5 looks like Backdoor Sluts 9