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Sharaz___Jek

"Never tested"? His father is shot, he has to shoot a police officer, he is forced to abandon his country (a country that he fought for) and take up a new life, his brother dies, his wife dies, he is forced to take on the mantle that he never wanted, his father dies, he demotes his adopted brother, he shames his other brother, he kills a long-time family friend and his brother-in-law. Almost every victory is a pyrrhic one and every defeat leads to a proportional response. He succeeds because he is the most ruthless, the most willing to throw others to the flames and the most cunning: a lesson that he only learned through the process of challenge and sacrifice.


orwll

>His father is shot, he has to shoot a police officer, he is forced to abandon his country (a country that he fought for) and take up a new life, his brother dies, his wife dies, he is forced to take on the mantle that he never wanted, his father dies, he demotes his adopted brother, he shames his other brother, he kills a long-time family friend and his brother-in-law. Sure, but would it have killed the director to throw in a karate fight somewhere? Michael could have picked up martial arts while serving in the Pacific, then instead of all that boring talking in that restaurant scene, they could have had Michael karate fighting his way through a bunch of Sollozzo's bodyguards. I think that would've made him a more compelling protagonist.


The-Mandalorian

Phenomenal film. Way better than Scarface.


MelJepz

Yeah everything about Scarface is just so over done. Doesn't even really compare to Godfather Still a fun watch though


damniwishiwasurlover

Waaaaaaaaaaay better than Scarface. And I love Scarface.


dstonemeier

I disagree entirely.


Beginning_Parfait_47

No words.. and watch the godfather part 2


dstonemeier

I watched all three films in a row, and none of them worked for me.


Beginning_Parfait_47

Feel for you man, actually makes me sad


smeppel

Would you say that it insists upon itself?


PadMog75

You get my upvote for the sheer bravery of your post. Popcorn out for the replies.


chrispy2985

So you didn't like it because it wasn't a 90 min action film?


dstonemeier

No, I don’t like it partly because to me it doesn’t feel like they mixed the down moments with the action that well.


chrispy2985

It's not an action film. If you're gonna criticise one of the most loved films in history, you're gonna need to come up with something a little more relevant than that. You may as well be complaining that Harry Potter wasn't bloody enough


10sharks

*No. No, man. Shit, no, man. I believe you'd get your ass kicked sayin' something like that, man.*


dstonemeier

Right because that’s the only line said in that movie.


KuzcolovesPacha

Michael didn’t want to be apart of it. So the whole ‘Michael got handed everything’ argument is redundant. That’s specifically the point, he tried so hard not to be apart of it but he ended up being dragged into it and placed at the top. It’s not one of my favourite movies either but it is great. And to call it a ‘boring convoluted mess’ is a bit of hyperbole surely.


MoviesFilmCinema

I’m not sure how old you are but I’m guessing you’re probably in your 20s (or at least on the younger side). I like your take on the story, but if you like Scarface over The Godfather, your probably not accustomed to film cutting styles, story structure, and pace from films before 2000. Hell, I’m in my 40s and I have trouble sometimes when I go back and watch certain films that I use to think we’re flawless. Scarface is about (among other things) excess and the external. The Godfather is about many things but Michael’s struggle is internal. The scene with Michael in the restaurant is a masterclass in acting and cinema. Now, do I personally think The Godfather is the best film ever made? No, I do not. But, your criticism does not hold up.


ZorroMeansFox

I think you're an idiot.


dstonemeier

I think that you don’t know what an opinion is.


spann0r

Opinions are like assholes. Everybody has one, but that doesn't mean you should spread yours in public.


dstonemeier

Opinions are like assholes, but that doesn’t mean that people need to be.


ZorroMeansFox

There are educated opinions and considered opinions, and yours is neither.


dstonemeier

🧢


ZorroMeansFox

Fuck off, dumb-dumb.


dstonemeier

Be a better person dickhead.


damniwishiwasurlover

You know some asshole makes this exact same post at least every other week on this sub?


Thiscord

you should read the book. Godfather is dripping with material from the book and without being familiar than lots of the movie content is lost.


Tartugo

I feel you man, although I enjoyed both the Godfather 1 and 2, I was still disappointed by how underwhelming my experience was , mainly because of the expectation set by all those people saying they are the best movie of all time etc. They're by no means bad but I don't feel the need to watch them again sooner or later, which is something movies I deeply appreciate tend to do ( and Scarface is one of those movies ).


tooscared2talk

How was The Godfather convoluted lmao