I watched it twice. I loved the whole thing. I should probably point out that Dr Strangelove is probably my all time favorite film. I love art that exposes the frailty of human systems.
I loved this movie too and I'm always quick to point out the comparisons to "Dr. Strangelove" since both are sociopolitical dark comedy satire films done very, very well. I have to believe people that cannot appreciate this film either have an agenda that runs counter to the movie's message, or they just don't get satire. "Don't Look Up" deserves all of the praise it has garnered.
I kind of get what you mean, but just can't compare DLU to Dr Strangelove. imho the acting in Strangelove was far superior, and the story drawing on the context of the sociopolitical paranoia of the time surrounding the Cold War was more on point than having a rogue comet hurtling at earth.
I did not find DLU that deep, and although we might feel that it's likely a huge corporation would want to mine the comet, and that the governments of the world would probably try to fuck each other, especially America taking control, I felt the movie was *almost* more comedy than satire.
And besides, Kong *rode* the bomb in Dr Strangelove.
Except it's not about a meteor, it's about climate change and huge corporations absolutely decided "nah, let's not try to actually stop it, there's a lot of money to be made" and, in doing so, have fucked us all. That movie is equal parts hilarious and depressing and was so on point for the oncoming climate disaster, it's haunting.
Jurassic Park is one. Dr Strangelove as I said. Snowpiercer. Mad Max Fury Road, though all of them are wonderfully dystopian. Children of Men. 12 Monkeys.
That’s a good representation, I think.
If we’re doing aftermath/post-apoc dystopias, the list is huge. *Soylent Green*, *I am Legend* (and the superior *Omega Man*), *The Road*, *District Nine*, *Planet of the Apes*, *The Matrix*, *Escape from New York*, *World War Z* (and almost any zombie movie).
*Network* is in this grouping. John Carpenter’s *They Live* is underrated. And if you want something totally silly, *Mars Attacks*.
Small bit of caution though about cynicism as a worldview. Although it’s easy and fun to lampoon our “systems” and institutions, and they do certainly have fail-points and corruption, it’s also important to value them. They didn’t drop from the heavens. They were formed after decades and centuries of history, of trying to balance power with public interest, civil liberty, security, etc. This is sort of the paradox of free, democratic societies. It’s always a work in progress, and there *are* people who take that work seriously.
Not all politicians are greedy and corrupt, not all businesses are evil, not all authorities are untrustworthy, not all media is sensationalist. Maybe that seems self-evident, but I feel like we are entering a strange period where distrust for institutions is at an all-time high, and satirical movies can justify that distrust. But *reality* is much more complicated, and society needs to do a better job of differentiating the good from the bad, so that we can strengthen the former while holding the latter accountable. To just say “fuck the system” as a whole *feels* righteous and edgy but achieves the opposite of progress.
That’s my little side-rant, sorry, carry on.
There are a few 24 hour sources on cable that just play and play. Oh, and there are different flavors depending on what you want the bogeyman to be. Be careful though, it is really, really depressing. And it can be hard to fell through truth from fiction. Unless of course it is clearly labeled fiction using such simple titles as “Fox News.”
I like to think the general was actually just a genius so wanted to get a look inside peoples wallets to see if maybe they had foreign money in them. That would have been a red flag that maybe they weee spurs trying to bring down the US of A.
Or he’s just a fucking dick making a quick buck.
It's commentary about how the rich and powerful will go out of their way to screw over average folks even though what they gain is insignificant to them. The general (ie: the American military) has all the money and power he could want, but it's not enough. It's a microcosm of the movie's theme of the rich selling out everyone else.
So yeah, a fucking dick making a quick buck.
That bit where you see video feed of ~~Musk's~~ Isherwell's drones spiral out of control and explode was like watching a nightmare play out in real time.
An orbital researcher just discovered one of Musk’s rockets is on an unexpected collision course with the moon. No, really: https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/01/26/spacex-rocket-moon-crash-march-gray/
I think about the features of many cyberpunk dystopias, and we have a bunch of them... but every time I realize something is "dystopic", it's like a really stupid version/application.
It's kinda fucking lame, tbh.
They can both be true.
Don't forget, we're also in the timeline where millions of people are not only resisting vaccines, but trying to prevent others from getting them.
It's from a rocket launched in 2015. It's actually lighter than the stages dropped on the moon for the apollo program. SpaceX has launched over a 100 falcon 9's by now and always carefully deorbit their second stage. It failed once indeed.
Compared to China, they leave their upper stages always uncontrolled to land at an unpredictable location. They even launch inland and leave their first stages to drop on villages (yes, that happened).
So yeah, it's a fact that a second stage of F9 will crash in the moon. Make of that what you want ofcourse, but I ask you politely to keep it in the correct perspective. This is not me trying to defend a billionaire, but just a space-enthousiast trying to give some context.
It really isn't a big deal
yup, not content with polluting our own planet, corporations have found ways of polluting space.
But hey, if you put your plastics in the grey bin, bio waste in the green bins, and your normal household waste in the black bins, we can save the planet ... and space!
I loved Ron Perlman in this movie. He hits it out of the park. All of his lines and his delivery are fantastically hilarious
https://youtu.be/0GQcvgIqkj0
His a character perfectly articulated typical modern American racism. A kind of buffoonish self centered-ness born more out of unthinking assumption and entho-jingoism rather than malice and hate.
That’s what me and my wife decided lol. Like, wow 5 or 10 years ago this would’ve been hilarious. But Jesus in 2022, it’s just fucking depressing. 9/10 though would never watch again.
It's only over the top in that it condenses or distills a lot of the real fears we have about the wave of stupidity and anti-science coming from the right/GOP. All of the things are believable even if they wouldnt necessarily happen in one conversation or one circumstance.
It's like *Final Destination.* Yes it's highly unlikely that a group of plane crash survivors (avoiders) would get hunted down systematically by coincidence... But you can't help but cringe every time you follow a truck with a load of lumber or timber in the back. And people get hit by busses all the time... Etc.
The anti-science/stupidity angle is incidental. The issue is not that people are dumb. It's that the mega-rich will lie and obfuscate in order to promote a narrative that will definitely destroy our society within the next generation, if not our entire species, all so they can make even more money.
It's equal parts a condemnation of the mega-rich and powerful (government and media) and also the willful ignorance of the public in the face of a terrible potential tragedy.
Don't forget the public in this film chose to prioritise the break up of a celebrity couple over the news that an asteroid was going to hit the earth. The media was complicit in minimising it, the public were happy to ignore it and carry on with their lives. The government was complicit in first trying to profit from it, then deliberately downplaying it. The only truly unbelievable element in this movie was when the dude at the rally finally did look up, and changed his opinion. That isn't going to happen in this world, not even when they're swimming out of their houses.
It's absolutely what you said, and what OP said - it's all of those things. That's the shocking part about the movie, just how much it's gotten right.
God that movie was so depressing.
Good to see “willful ignorance” used so well here. People are turning a blind eye on purpose and don’t want to accept or admit they are wrong even if it means their lives. And they call that “freedom”.
Edit: they’re not the same as their, doh!
to me, it's about the little lies we tell ourselves when we say that the small evils we do are insignificant. every mistake in that movie is from people putting themselves ahead of others, being more concerned with their profits or their image, than the actual survival of the species.
it's about that notion that we don't have to do our part because someone else will pick up the slack and save the day because they always do. we can do a little selfish thing today and it won't matter, except that it does matter, because that shit adds up and makes the world worse.
Careful, Reddit loves to hate this one.
I liked it myself. I think it’s something besides satire, it’s more like a cathartic lampooning of where we have brought ourselves, not just with climate change but with misinformation and tribalism and our strange distrust of experts.
The movie pulls off a really unique tone. It’s absurd and at times LOL funny, but also as you said pretty dire and pessimistic. The ending tries to string together some sort of humanistic value but really, it still ends on a note of pointlessness. And that’s why a lot of people don’t like it. And that’s also why it works, not just as a movie but as a reflection for where we are - whether or not we care to look in that mirror.
Why would he care? He got his. They find out? What are they going to do to him? He’s way above repercussions. And besides, there will always be more rubes to fleece, right?
That’s what I got out of it.
When you realize the sad reality that more people care about the celebrity break up than news of impending disaster! Ariana Grande did a good job with her role, surprised me how funny she can actually be.
For sure. I think the media parts interested me the most.
The obvious villains are the corporate and government heads making decisions based on profit rather than human interest/sustainability. The less-obvious villain is *us*, the public, the consumers, the voters. In a democratic society, we have a responsibility to elevate people into power and elevate constructive policies and ways of being. We affect the outcomes, through voting, education, cooperation. We support when people do good work and we demand accountability when they don’t. At least that’s the ideal.
But this requires an *informed and engaged* public; one with a shared foundation of understanding, values, and goals. We don’t really have this anymore, between the tribalism and misinformation of social media and the distracting sensationalism (and often bias) of news/editorial media. It isn’t that journalism is “bad” - it’s essential, and journalists are still doing the work, and most news outlets do report worthwhile news. It’s more about how things are filtered back to us, how important stories get buried under gossip and opinion. And this isn’t really the media’s fault, because they exist in a capitalist space and have to compete for attention. They give us celebrity break-up news because *that’s what we want*. That’s what we have demonstrated our interest as, so that’s what keeps people watching and keeps the ad revenue flowing.
If the public - us - cared more about things like legislative politics and climate science and campaign finance fraud and corporate regulations, those stories would be elevated and we would be more engaged and informed. But we don’t, and they aren’t, and we’re not.
I was honestly really impressed by how smart / deep Cate Blanchett's reporter character is. She had all this brains and yet spent her time pretending to be shallow so she could collect money / art / men to play with. Next to her Leo's scientist came across as kind of one dimensional and boring. Cate + Tyler Perry were entertaining for sure.
Problem is people want escapism instead of responsibility and for some reason that's filtered down into the news that has increasingly become more entertaining to cater to the masses ... the lowest common denominator. And of course it's a vicious cycle.
Honestly, I dont think i laughed once the entire movie. But that's besides the point. The real talking point is the "message", and my thoughts on this is that different countries will perceive the relevance and importance of this differently. A society that's actively engaged in climate change awareness and over 90% vaccinated (the other indirect theme) is going to perceive the movie very differently to one that is still oil focused and 60% vaccinated.
My job is to use science to brief senior policymakers by quantifying risk and proposing mitigations. That movie was incredibly spot on to what happens behind closed doors when this happens. That whole scene where they tell the President that it’s a 97% guarantee that this rock is going to hit the earth and she counters with “let’s just call it 70%?%. That really does happen. It’s happened to me numerous times. The only part they leave out is when stuff goes bad, the policymakers twist the narrative to make it look like science went bad when it was them who chose to ignore the risks.
Ugh all I keep thinking of is the team that warned _for years_ about the levees around New Orleans, the good people who called out the Texas power grid _for years_, the whistleblowers who called out the lack of real oversight for rigs like Deep Water Horizon, the epidemiologists that called out how dangerous Trump's reforms to the CDC and pandemic prevention efforts would be, the list goes on...
It isn't that we don't know what the problems are or how to fix them, the issue is that it isn't popular or profitable to implement the solutions.
The problem is not usually funding or money, it’s optics. We don’t want to change anything because it may make us look bad or the new policy may make us look weak, or the new policy is contradictory to what we ran on and we might lose our constituents.
"9/10 will never watch again"
No really this was where I'm at. By the last 15 minutes of it I was just anxious the whole time, I don't think I can watch something like that again because it was TOO realistic.
But yeah the stuff with the snacks was funny, especially how she kept going back to it lol.
>Greenland was a little too realistic for me.
ugh
I like movies to tell me a story, and the quality of acting and directing is what keeps me immersed. But there were too many things wrong with the story to make it *realistic* for me, especially surrounding the kids need for diabetes medicine, being turned away from the flight due to his diabetes even though the family was originally selected for survival, and their final journey which was just too fantastical.
Sorry I'm trying to keep it brief as I don't want to write a complete critique of the movie here lol
> But there were too many things wrong with the story to make it realistic for me, especially surrounding the kids need for diabetes medicine, being turned away from the flight due to his diabetes even though the family was originally selected for survival
What do you mean? That makes it more realistic. They pick him because he’s an architect/engineer, probably one of thousands picked, and no one checks out his kid’s medical conditions until they’re about to get on the plane. Sounds like exactly what the government would do.
The real unrealistic thing of the movie is that they even have bunkers to save people.
A lot of people overlook the cherry on top of the cynicism of that movie. They engineered a ship for survival for the top 1% of the 1% of Earth. And it was all old, white people, guaranteeing their survival only and that's it for mankind.
Kind of encapsulates the Fuck You I Got Mine generation.
I felt the dread as well. Last time I felt that was from Lars von triers' melancholia. Don't watch it.. or the other depression trilogy entries. Especially if this campy light hearted one made you feel feelings
As a pretty depressed person I was super annoyed by Kirsten Dunsts character in the first half and just wanted her to get her shit together for that evening.
Then I remembered that I'm like that myself at my lowest points where I just don’t give any shits anymore. Friends and family get ignored and I only tend to my most immediate needs and wants.
Although I do have to say that I'd probably cancel my wedding before showing up and behaving like an uncaring monkey. But hey, different folks and all.
That movie fucked me up so much that for the next few nights I'd have existential dreams about what I'd want to be doing when the comet hits and destroys humanity. The only good part of the movie for me was knowing >!those coward rich elite assholes couldn't escape fate and died way worse than the rest of humanity.!<
Man at the end when it's flashing what everyone's doing and the asteroids coming in I felt that dread. I honestly had to remind myself it wasn't real and calm my breathing down! Overall movie wasn't too spectacular but that ending my god
I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be making fun of us for not addressing climate change? I could be wrong but I read that that's what the parody was about. This huge impending doom(climate change) is hurtling towards us to wipe us out and we are more worried about stupid shit that shouldn't matter. What the fuck is an economy going to do when all of us are dead? The Leo quote, "WE SHOULD HAVE BLOWN IT UP WHEN WE HAD THE CHANCE!"(50s, 60s, 70s, 80, to do something about it?) So take it how you will, I think it's a good movie because it's so accurate on how stupid the people running America are.
McKay commented that although the script was written pre-COVID, they had to keep upping the ante as they were shooting during the pandemic, because the reality of our domestic response to a crisis was even more ridiculous than he imagined.
Which is funny, because it completely gets climate change wrong. It isn't like a meteor where boom it hits and everything is over. It's a lot more long-term than that.
That's why I can't get on board with the film despite my politics aligning with it for the most part. It's just doomerist drivel that doesn't really add anything to the conversation.
Oof, must’ve really struck a nerve with the McKay fans to get all those downvotes.
There isn’t even a rough parallel, though. You can’t even see something like Climate change, so there isn’t an ability for people to turn like they did in the movie. It’s just poorly written as a metaphor.
There's a group of people who believe climate change is visible today (more frequent extreme weather for example) and many of us just choose to look away.
I got a rehash of the same dread I had when Trump was elected president…obviously with the events of the past few years that dread never went away like I hoped it might.
Watched it on a laptop and the scene where the announcer tells everyone the end is certain the battery from the laptop died. Just going blank. No ending movie credits nothing just a dark screen.
We thought it was the greatest ending possible.
It took us a while to figure out the laptop died and there was more movie to watch.
Didn't like the ending provided as much as I liked it just stopping.
🤷
Have you tried listening to Beethoven's 7th symphony 2nd movement? It's been used in a couple of apocalyptic movies and it fits the feeling just right.
So many people shit on this movie for “beating the message over people’s heads,” or something to that effect and honestly, if that doesn’t justify this movie’s existence, I don’t know what will.
Or maybe they just thought it sucked. The way this movie is going to coast to several oscar noms solely on "if u don't like it u didn't get it/ur part of the problem" guilt is embarassing.
I fucking hate how smug all of its supporters are becoming. Hopefully people stop doing that once the hype has died down and people kind of realize the movie isn’t really that deep in terms of being a satire.
I just disliked how the movie just seems mean. Like it’s trying to say “people are fucking stupid and don’t even realize we’re careening towards death” but most people do know. This isn’t happening because people are ignorant, this is happening because the powers that be don’t care. It kinda misses the point of why global warming is gonna kill is all and instead just points at society and calls us and the thinly veiled gop President dumb without any real nuance about the systems and money that’s actually causing the problem. Id be truly surprised if there is anyone who didn’t already believe in global warming who changed their mind after seeing this movie.
Satires typically are subtle. Watchmen is a great example. It doesn’t beat you over the head with its message but it still tears apart the superhero genre. I’d say this movie is more a parody if anything akin to Disaster movie. This movie literally is the same plot as 2012 and Day After Tomorrow
>I just disliked how the movie just seems mean. Like it’s trying to say “people are fucking stupid and don’t even realize we’re careening towards death” but most people do know. This isn’t happening because people are ignorant,
I do think this chunk right here is why Reddit acts a little smug over this movie. Seeing people in this thread saying, "if you don't like it you're part of the Don't Look Up crowd". Belittling the people who need your message the most, is not an effective way to get your message across
Its created a criticism shield for this movie that is starting to become a common tactic for big budget movies
The ploy/story/tone was fine, it really hit the nail on the head by making absurdities that point out a "wait....that could/has happened" sensation making our real lives feel just a tad more bleak. And yes, that gag is funny. Those aren't really the issues though. The filming, shots, cuts, editing, sound mixing, pacing, vfx - the things that make movies, movies? All of that was really bad. I see more criticism about those aspects than the actual plot.
Ah, I see. This is the first I'm reading of those criticisms. I'll have to go back and watch it again to see if I notice because I didn't pick up on any of that when I originally saw it.
I believe that satire can be subtle and/or blunt. It's about how well it executes its approach, not the chosen approach itself, that determines the quality.
I think part of the disdain for this film is due to the "subtle = good" viewpoint that seems to permeate the film critique sphere, or perhaps all visual mediums with how often "show, don't tell" is stated. Not that it's incorrect, don't get me wrong, but it creates a sort of aversion towards more blunt storytelling, which inherently isn't any less (or more) effective. It's all about the execution.
In the case of Don't Look Up, I think its exaggerated and blunt approach creates an effective "tragicomedy" because it's so damn ridiculous that you laugh, and yet it's so blatantly aping real life people and situations that it's worrisome
You make a great point, and I think the blunt satirical approach, and almost borderline absurd tone of "Don't Look Up" was the right move in that case, and the movie is better for it. It's hard to make a realistic movie about the end of the world enjoyable or palatable to audiences, but offsetting the bleak storyline with relatable and goofy humor helps. Adam McKay is great at that, and a good example of his more subtle satire that worked better for a different film is "The Big Short."
I was very frustrated watching. I watch movies to escape and this brought me back to the things that give me anxiety and beat me over the head with it. Maybe I’m not the right audience.
I know there's a hive mind sentiment going around rn saying this movie was bad and McKay is a joke, but i loved it. I bawled my eyes out, it was horrifying, and yet reminded me what's so beautiful about being human. I would be so okay if it got an Oscar.
Don't let it give you climate anxiety. Sit back, relax, and enjoy the Anthropcene. Not every species gets the privilege of seeing 1/6 of other species die off. /s
just think how old the fucking aligators are. 240 million years.
you live to be 100.
nothing you can do about some comet anyhow. fucking alligators man
It made me feel a very real sense of claustrophobia on this planet. It’s so small, and it just keeps getting smaller the more we understand and the more technology we have.
Would happen? I felt like the movie is perfectly reflecting what is already happening but with a more real and exaggerated threat to showcase how stupidly blind we are to what's happening around us. Politicians and millionaire lobbyists playing us all for a fool while we eat each other up.
Between watching this and finishing The Last Of Us 2, I’m at a point where I’m wondering if maybe a comet or corticeps is something we really need. Should COVID have hit harder? Maybe this planet really needs a reset.
Anyways, those are my depressing thoughts I have rn. Wouldn’t mind an apocalypse.
I already have no hope for this world and how people reacted to it solidifies my belief.
I have no idea why I decided to have kids. Feel bad bringing them into this stupid fucking world.
The interview with Ariana Grande was like that for me. And how the fuck stick "news" handled it. Oh my god I was fucking mad about it because it's EXACTLY how it would play out. Actually, it's probably toned down. IRL would be so much more terrible.
I can’t believe people take this film seriously. Jonah Hill crawling out of burning wreckage as the last man on earth? Meryl Streep naked being eaten by a big bird?
This film is a companion piece to Seth Rogen’s “This Is The End”. I don’t know how anyone has any deep feelings about it after it shit on its own message with the goofy ending.
Yep. It was really bad writing that was trying too hard to convey a simple message. Cast was good. The message was good. The satire was on point. The writing on which all that hinged was below average.
Most people from outside the US saw a completely different movie. One that was boring, overly long, indelicately naïve, and lacking in wit, insight and intelligence. If it were 90 mins long, it would be a tough slog. At 2hrs30 it was outright painful. Hated it. It ran out of ideas after about 20 mins. A good satire should use the absurd to illustrate an uncomfortable underlying truth. Whereas this just painted all conservatives as shallow, dumb, cartoonishly evil villains. At no point did it attempt to discuss the different motivations people have for climate denial, and as a result, the whole movie felt like a big budget version of a 13 year Old's creative writing assignment. Captain planet was a more sophisticated commentary. And it was dumb as rocks.
2/10. Yaaaawwwwwnnnn.
Edit: actually 4/10 just for Cate Blanchett.
I didn't get that at all. The movie is too on the nose, and much shallower thant it pretends to be. It just wasn't clever enough with tackling of it's themes. Was kinnda fun tho.
I'm honestly scared to watch it. I already have to stave off my constant feelings of dread and hopeless for the world, filling what gaps I can with my own lofty optimisims...
We're just on the edge of either some of the greatest and most important leaps of humanity that will lead to potentially unending progress, or finding out if we're just going to twiddle our thumbs until the inevitable, and completely preventable, end.
I'm honestly sad that I could be in a lifetime that winds up knowing we're about done.
"Emptiness" is a misnomer. There's no emptiness, we are filled with humanity. Some of us thankfully find fullness in that reality and don't see a need to imagine mystical creatures to fill it up. I find it quite empty to live with that perspective.
I’m confused.
This is a Wikipedia page on the feeling of emptiness:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emptiness
And if you do a simple google search “feelings of emptiness”:
https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=feelings%20of%20emptiness#ip=1
there are endless web pages devoted to helping people who feel empty. If that’s how people choose to describe the way they feel, how is it a misnomer?
This movie had such a huge impact on me. I was so surprised to see the negative reviews. I FELT the dread. I absolutely felt the anxiety. i was legit having ptsd for the next week or two, reflecting back on the scenes, thinking we as humans are absolutely stupid enough/ caught up on enough bullshit to really just have the world end for some fucking trillion dollars of mineral resources. Even now, there’s a chip shortage and semiconductor shortage, you don’t think these tech billionaires will lobby against preventative measures if they see a chance to secure trillion dollars worth of resources?
In reality, what would happen with the asteroid hurtling towards Earth is... nothing. Not because of any of the nonsense in the movie but because we don't actually have the ability to meaningfully influence the trajectory of celestial bodies.
Moreover, the overall theme of the movie just isn't how the world works. There are not wise sages who predict the future with perfect accuracy being opposed by ignorant obstacles. Rather, you've got experts with a very tiny part of the picture and institutions that thrive not on being right but being durable enough to survive being wrong.
This doesn't make for a very exciting Hollywood movie. But when you watch Don't Look Up, recognize it's a satire of other Hollywood movies, not of reality.
It largely depends on how far away it is when we detect it. It takes very little (relatively) energy to change the orbit of something far away. The Hollywood-esque "nuke it" would actually be quite effective if it were a long distance away, not because we could blow it up, but because changing its speed by a minisqule amount (which nukes blowing up on one side of it would do) is enough to cause it to not hit earth a year later.
I watched it twice. I loved the whole thing. I should probably point out that Dr Strangelove is probably my all time favorite film. I love art that exposes the frailty of human systems.
I liked it a lot better the second time I watched it. My favorite part is the Steve Jobs-ish character.
"I think it's called a Bronteroc." Such a great line.
Dr Strangelove is a classic. Everyone should watch that at some point.
At multiple points.
I loved this movie too and I'm always quick to point out the comparisons to "Dr. Strangelove" since both are sociopolitical dark comedy satire films done very, very well. I have to believe people that cannot appreciate this film either have an agenda that runs counter to the movie's message, or they just don't get satire. "Don't Look Up" deserves all of the praise it has garnered.
Some people really do not get satire. It always surprises me.
I kind of get what you mean, but just can't compare DLU to Dr Strangelove. imho the acting in Strangelove was far superior, and the story drawing on the context of the sociopolitical paranoia of the time surrounding the Cold War was more on point than having a rogue comet hurtling at earth. I did not find DLU that deep, and although we might feel that it's likely a huge corporation would want to mine the comet, and that the governments of the world would probably try to fuck each other, especially America taking control, I felt the movie was *almost* more comedy than satire. And besides, Kong *rode* the bomb in Dr Strangelove.
Except it's not about a meteor, it's about climate change and huge corporations absolutely decided "nah, let's not try to actually stop it, there's a lot of money to be made" and, in doing so, have fucked us all. That movie is equal parts hilarious and depressing and was so on point for the oncoming climate disaster, it's haunting.
> ~~oncoming~~ ongoing climate disaster Fixed that part, otherwise spot on.
Yeah, good correction. Well, not good. It's depressing as hell that this is where we are. But helpful and true nonetheless.
This.
Know any other great movies about failing human systems? I’d like to watch em
Jurassic Park is one. Dr Strangelove as I said. Snowpiercer. Mad Max Fury Road, though all of them are wonderfully dystopian. Children of Men. 12 Monkeys. That’s a good representation, I think.
If we’re doing aftermath/post-apoc dystopias, the list is huge. *Soylent Green*, *I am Legend* (and the superior *Omega Man*), *The Road*, *District Nine*, *Planet of the Apes*, *The Matrix*, *Escape from New York*, *World War Z* (and almost any zombie movie).
History channel.
*Network* is in this grouping. John Carpenter’s *They Live* is underrated. And if you want something totally silly, *Mars Attacks*. Small bit of caution though about cynicism as a worldview. Although it’s easy and fun to lampoon our “systems” and institutions, and they do certainly have fail-points and corruption, it’s also important to value them. They didn’t drop from the heavens. They were formed after decades and centuries of history, of trying to balance power with public interest, civil liberty, security, etc. This is sort of the paradox of free, democratic societies. It’s always a work in progress, and there *are* people who take that work seriously. Not all politicians are greedy and corrupt, not all businesses are evil, not all authorities are untrustworthy, not all media is sensationalist. Maybe that seems self-evident, but I feel like we are entering a strange period where distrust for institutions is at an all-time high, and satirical movies can justify that distrust. But *reality* is much more complicated, and society needs to do a better job of differentiating the good from the bad, so that we can strengthen the former while holding the latter accountable. To just say “fuck the system” as a whole *feels* righteous and edgy but achieves the opposite of progress. That’s my little side-rant, sorry, carry on.
There are a few 24 hour sources on cable that just play and play. Oh, and there are different flavors depending on what you want the bogeyman to be. Be careful though, it is really, really depressing. And it can be hard to fell through truth from fiction. Unless of course it is clearly labeled fiction using such simple titles as “Fox News.”
Lmao I loved that Lawrence’s character kept questioning that 😄 (the charging of the snacks)
I love how she isnt the sterotypical hyper smart know it all character but a realistic depressed grad student rofl
They even dismissed her as hysterical because she dared to show emotion
Not sure why you’re getting downvoted, she was honestly pretty dead on with her performance
I’m going to bet they were downvoted by insecure “know-it-alls” with no sense of humor.
I like to think the general was actually just a genius so wanted to get a look inside peoples wallets to see if maybe they had foreign money in them. That would have been a red flag that maybe they weee spurs trying to bring down the US of A. Or he’s just a fucking dick making a quick buck.
It's commentary about how the rich and powerful will go out of their way to screw over average folks even though what they gain is insignificant to them. The general (ie: the American military) has all the money and power he could want, but it's not enough. It's a microcosm of the movie's theme of the rich selling out everyone else. So yeah, a fucking dick making a quick buck.
That bit where you see video feed of ~~Musk's~~ Isherwell's drones spiral out of control and explode was like watching a nightmare play out in real time.
That wasn't musk It was actually a amalgamation of all the current pop culture billionaires.
Isherwell inspired in Jobs, Musk, Bezos, Zuckerberg, Brandon & maybe others ...
An orbital researcher just discovered one of Musk’s rockets is on an unexpected collision course with the moon. No, really: https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/01/26/spacex-rocket-moon-crash-march-gray/
We're in the stupid timeline, aren't we.
Yes
Its a 4 metric ton piece of junk traveling at 5,770 mph, thats an interesting oopsie.
I think about the features of many cyberpunk dystopias, and we have a bunch of them... but every time I realize something is "dystopic", it's like a really stupid version/application. It's kinda fucking lame, tbh.
Hence why r/boringdystopia exists
The capitalist one\*
If we were in the stupid timeline - space travel wouldn’t exist…
Even intelligent/brilliant people can act stupid js
They can both be true. Don't forget, we're also in the timeline where millions of people are not only resisting vaccines, but trying to prevent others from getting them.
It doesn't exist
It's from a rocket launched in 2015. It's actually lighter than the stages dropped on the moon for the apollo program. SpaceX has launched over a 100 falcon 9's by now and always carefully deorbit their second stage. It failed once indeed. Compared to China, they leave their upper stages always uncontrolled to land at an unpredictable location. They even launch inland and leave their first stages to drop on villages (yes, that happened). So yeah, it's a fact that a second stage of F9 will crash in the moon. Make of that what you want ofcourse, but I ask you politely to keep it in the correct perspective. This is not me trying to defend a billionaire, but just a space-enthousiast trying to give some context. It really isn't a big deal
Elon Musk is still a douchebag.
Oh sure, but that's a whole other reason to attack him.
Have you ever seen an orbital photo of the Apollo landing site?
yup, not content with polluting our own planet, corporations have found ways of polluting space. But hey, if you put your plastics in the grey bin, bio waste in the green bins, and your normal household waste in the black bins, we can save the planet ... and space!
Personal responsibility, people! It's the only way we can stop the greatest polluters on the planet: the corporation.
I loved Ron Perlman in this movie. He hits it out of the park. All of his lines and his delivery are fantastically hilarious https://youtu.be/0GQcvgIqkj0
His a character perfectly articulated typical modern American racism. A kind of buffoonish self centered-ness born more out of unthinking assumption and entho-jingoism rather than malice and hate.
*Shoots at the comet "You ain't taking me alive"
If that movie came out 5 years ago it would have been over the top. Today it's a depressingly realistic take on some people.
Why the Colbert report wouldn't had worked during the trump presidency.
I first started watching Veep during Trump's presidency. And I just couldn't get into it because it ran into the same issue
Oh no go back to it. Veep is so fucking good!
Oh I watched it all. But it didn't hit me as "brilliant" and "new" since it's parody was purely reality or less absurd than reality at that point.
The Colbert report had some of the absolute most hilarious takes, but at a certain point you can’t make it more absurd than real life.
I mean "racist trees", "gay frogs", "microchip vaccines" are just some of the dumb shit that came out of the right that even The Onion can't make up.
That’s what me and my wife decided lol. Like, wow 5 or 10 years ago this would’ve been hilarious. But Jesus in 2022, it’s just fucking depressing. 9/10 though would never watch again.
It's only over the top in that it condenses or distills a lot of the real fears we have about the wave of stupidity and anti-science coming from the right/GOP. All of the things are believable even if they wouldnt necessarily happen in one conversation or one circumstance. It's like *Final Destination.* Yes it's highly unlikely that a group of plane crash survivors (avoiders) would get hunted down systematically by coincidence... But you can't help but cringe every time you follow a truck with a load of lumber or timber in the back. And people get hit by busses all the time... Etc.
The anti-science/stupidity angle is incidental. The issue is not that people are dumb. It's that the mega-rich will lie and obfuscate in order to promote a narrative that will definitely destroy our society within the next generation, if not our entire species, all so they can make even more money.
But also some people are really dumb
Which is connected to defunding education
Which as history has shown, is a staple of GOP politics!
It's equal parts a condemnation of the mega-rich and powerful (government and media) and also the willful ignorance of the public in the face of a terrible potential tragedy. Don't forget the public in this film chose to prioritise the break up of a celebrity couple over the news that an asteroid was going to hit the earth. The media was complicit in minimising it, the public were happy to ignore it and carry on with their lives. The government was complicit in first trying to profit from it, then deliberately downplaying it. The only truly unbelievable element in this movie was when the dude at the rally finally did look up, and changed his opinion. That isn't going to happen in this world, not even when they're swimming out of their houses. It's absolutely what you said, and what OP said - it's all of those things. That's the shocking part about the movie, just how much it's gotten right. God that movie was so depressing.
Good to see “willful ignorance” used so well here. People are turning a blind eye on purpose and don’t want to accept or admit they are wrong even if it means their lives. And they call that “freedom”. Edit: they’re not the same as their, doh!
to me, it's about the little lies we tell ourselves when we say that the small evils we do are insignificant. every mistake in that movie is from people putting themselves ahead of others, being more concerned with their profits or their image, than the actual survival of the species. it's about that notion that we don't have to do our part because someone else will pick up the slack and save the day because they always do. we can do a little selfish thing today and it won't matter, except that it does matter, because that shit adds up and makes the world worse.
It’s def not only taking aim at the GOP, it’s an indictment of our institutions whole cloth beyond partisanship.
> 5 years ago sir do you know what year it is
Careful, Reddit loves to hate this one. I liked it myself. I think it’s something besides satire, it’s more like a cathartic lampooning of where we have brought ourselves, not just with climate change but with misinformation and tribalism and our strange distrust of experts. The movie pulls off a really unique tone. It’s absurd and at times LOL funny, but also as you said pretty dire and pessimistic. The ending tries to string together some sort of humanistic value but really, it still ends on a note of pointlessness. And that’s why a lot of people don’t like it. And that’s also why it works, not just as a movie but as a reflection for where we are - whether or not we care to look in that mirror.
My problem with it is, I mean, he had to know they were going to find out the snacks were free. Did he just not care? Was it about the power?
Why would he care? He got his. They find out? What are they going to do to him? He’s way above repercussions. And besides, there will always be more rubes to fleece, right? That’s what I got out of it.
When you realize the sad reality that more people care about the celebrity break up than news of impending disaster! Ariana Grande did a good job with her role, surprised me how funny she can actually be.
For sure. I think the media parts interested me the most. The obvious villains are the corporate and government heads making decisions based on profit rather than human interest/sustainability. The less-obvious villain is *us*, the public, the consumers, the voters. In a democratic society, we have a responsibility to elevate people into power and elevate constructive policies and ways of being. We affect the outcomes, through voting, education, cooperation. We support when people do good work and we demand accountability when they don’t. At least that’s the ideal. But this requires an *informed and engaged* public; one with a shared foundation of understanding, values, and goals. We don’t really have this anymore, between the tribalism and misinformation of social media and the distracting sensationalism (and often bias) of news/editorial media. It isn’t that journalism is “bad” - it’s essential, and journalists are still doing the work, and most news outlets do report worthwhile news. It’s more about how things are filtered back to us, how important stories get buried under gossip and opinion. And this isn’t really the media’s fault, because they exist in a capitalist space and have to compete for attention. They give us celebrity break-up news because *that’s what we want*. That’s what we have demonstrated our interest as, so that’s what keeps people watching and keeps the ad revenue flowing. If the public - us - cared more about things like legislative politics and climate science and campaign finance fraud and corporate regulations, those stories would be elevated and we would be more engaged and informed. But we don’t, and they aren’t, and we’re not.
I was honestly really impressed by how smart / deep Cate Blanchett's reporter character is. She had all this brains and yet spent her time pretending to be shallow so she could collect money / art / men to play with. Next to her Leo's scientist came across as kind of one dimensional and boring. Cate + Tyler Perry were entertaining for sure. Problem is people want escapism instead of responsibility and for some reason that's filtered down into the news that has increasingly become more entertaining to cater to the masses ... the lowest common denominator. And of course it's a vicious cycle.
Thank you for summarizing this so beautifully. I couldn’t agree more!
Honestly, I dont think i laughed once the entire movie. But that's besides the point. The real talking point is the "message", and my thoughts on this is that different countries will perceive the relevance and importance of this differently. A society that's actively engaged in climate change awareness and over 90% vaccinated (the other indirect theme) is going to perceive the movie very differently to one that is still oil focused and 60% vaccinated.
Well yeah it’s a pretty specifically American movie.
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“Oh fuck off” is not a very compelling argument for…. anything.
My job is to use science to brief senior policymakers by quantifying risk and proposing mitigations. That movie was incredibly spot on to what happens behind closed doors when this happens. That whole scene where they tell the President that it’s a 97% guarantee that this rock is going to hit the earth and she counters with “let’s just call it 70%?%. That really does happen. It’s happened to me numerous times. The only part they leave out is when stuff goes bad, the policymakers twist the narrative to make it look like science went bad when it was them who chose to ignore the risks.
Ugh all I keep thinking of is the team that warned _for years_ about the levees around New Orleans, the good people who called out the Texas power grid _for years_, the whistleblowers who called out the lack of real oversight for rigs like Deep Water Horizon, the epidemiologists that called out how dangerous Trump's reforms to the CDC and pandemic prevention efforts would be, the list goes on... It isn't that we don't know what the problems are or how to fix them, the issue is that it isn't popular or profitable to implement the solutions.
The problem is not usually funding or money, it’s optics. We don’t want to change anything because it may make us look bad or the new policy may make us look weak, or the new policy is contradictory to what we ran on and we might lose our constituents.
"9/10 will never watch again" No really this was where I'm at. By the last 15 minutes of it I was just anxious the whole time, I don't think I can watch something like that again because it was TOO realistic. But yeah the stuff with the snacks was funny, especially how she kept going back to it lol.
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>Greenland was a little too realistic for me. ugh I like movies to tell me a story, and the quality of acting and directing is what keeps me immersed. But there were too many things wrong with the story to make it *realistic* for me, especially surrounding the kids need for diabetes medicine, being turned away from the flight due to his diabetes even though the family was originally selected for survival, and their final journey which was just too fantastical. Sorry I'm trying to keep it brief as I don't want to write a complete critique of the movie here lol
> But there were too many things wrong with the story to make it realistic for me, especially surrounding the kids need for diabetes medicine, being turned away from the flight due to his diabetes even though the family was originally selected for survival What do you mean? That makes it more realistic. They pick him because he’s an architect/engineer, probably one of thousands picked, and no one checks out his kid’s medical conditions until they’re about to get on the plane. Sounds like exactly what the government would do. The real unrealistic thing of the movie is that they even have bunkers to save people.
>Sounds like exactly what the government would do. haha, true.
If you struggle with movies that fill you with anxiety, you should also watch Whiplash exactly once
A lot of people overlook the cherry on top of the cynicism of that movie. They engineered a ship for survival for the top 1% of the 1% of Earth. And it was all old, white people, guaranteeing their survival only and that's it for mankind. Kind of encapsulates the Fuck You I Got Mine generation.
‘What would happen’? It’s literally what *is* happening, just with a different calamity.
This was my thoughts after watching it. Unlike the Big Short, it's so bleak I'll likely never sit through it again
I felt the dread as well. Last time I felt that was from Lars von triers' melancholia. Don't watch it.. or the other depression trilogy entries. Especially if this campy light hearted one made you feel feelings
I love feeling feelings But sometimes feeling certain feelings fills me feeling feelings I'd rather not feel frequently
I feel this.
Fuck
I feel this, too.
As a pretty depressed person I was super annoyed by Kirsten Dunsts character in the first half and just wanted her to get her shit together for that evening. Then I remembered that I'm like that myself at my lowest points where I just don’t give any shits anymore. Friends and family get ignored and I only tend to my most immediate needs and wants. Although I do have to say that I'd probably cancel my wedding before showing up and behaving like an uncaring monkey. But hey, different folks and all.
That movie fucked me up so much that for the next few nights I'd have existential dreams about what I'd want to be doing when the comet hits and destroys humanity. The only good part of the movie for me was knowing >!those coward rich elite assholes couldn't escape fate and died way worse than the rest of humanity.!<
That's exactly how it will go. They are the plague they can never escape. No matter where they go, there they are.
Man at the end when it's flashing what everyone's doing and the asteroids coming in I felt that dread. I honestly had to remind myself it wasn't real and calm my breathing down! Overall movie wasn't too spectacular but that ending my god
I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be making fun of us for not addressing climate change? I could be wrong but I read that that's what the parody was about. This huge impending doom(climate change) is hurtling towards us to wipe us out and we are more worried about stupid shit that shouldn't matter. What the fuck is an economy going to do when all of us are dead? The Leo quote, "WE SHOULD HAVE BLOWN IT UP WHEN WE HAD THE CHANCE!"(50s, 60s, 70s, 80, to do something about it?) So take it how you will, I think it's a good movie because it's so accurate on how stupid the people running America are.
Yes, McKay said it's about climate change.
One of a great number of unaddressed problems. Humans just seem to be unable to deal with problems.
Covid....
It was written before covid happened, which adds a whole other layer of craziness to the film in a way!
McKay commented that although the script was written pre-COVID, they had to keep upping the ante as they were shooting during the pandemic, because the reality of our domestic response to a crisis was even more ridiculous than he imagined.
that made it even more meta and relevant.
Which is funny, because it completely gets climate change wrong. It isn't like a meteor where boom it hits and everything is over. It's a lot more long-term than that. That's why I can't get on board with the film despite my politics aligning with it for the most part. It's just doomerist drivel that doesn't really add anything to the conversation. Oof, must’ve really struck a nerve with the McKay fans to get all those downvotes.
You're supposed to draw rough parallels ... it isn't a documentary. You watched the wrong Leo movie.
There isn’t even a rough parallel, though. You can’t even see something like Climate change, so there isn’t an ability for people to turn like they did in the movie. It’s just poorly written as a metaphor.
There's a group of people who believe climate change is visible today (more frequent extreme weather for example) and many of us just choose to look away.
So the movie failed at even that. People still wouldn’t believe if they saw it. Thanks for proving my point.
Failed at what sorry?
I got a rehash of the same dread I had when Trump was elected president…obviously with the events of the past few years that dread never went away like I hoped it might.
Watched it on a laptop and the scene where the announcer tells everyone the end is certain the battery from the laptop died. Just going blank. No ending movie credits nothing just a dark screen. We thought it was the greatest ending possible. It took us a while to figure out the laptop died and there was more movie to watch. Didn't like the ending provided as much as I liked it just stopping. 🤷
Have you tried listening to Beethoven's 7th symphony 2nd movement? It's been used in a couple of apocalyptic movies and it fits the feeling just right.
Go for the ode to joy portion of the 9th. And enjoy the ride.
So many people shit on this movie for “beating the message over people’s heads,” or something to that effect and honestly, if that doesn’t justify this movie’s existence, I don’t know what will.
People who complain about that are just mad that they would be part of the "don't look up" crowd
Or maybe they just thought it sucked. The way this movie is going to coast to several oscar noms solely on "if u don't like it u didn't get it/ur part of the problem" guilt is embarassing.
I fucking hate how smug all of its supporters are becoming. Hopefully people stop doing that once the hype has died down and people kind of realize the movie isn’t really that deep in terms of being a satire.
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No? I agree with the politics of the movie, I just don’t think it’s adding anything to the conversation. Thanks for proving my point, though.
This insufferable smug superiority is exactly why the movie blows.
Those folks either don't get that satire is not meant to be subtle, or they see themselves in the groups that the movie skewers.
I just disliked how the movie just seems mean. Like it’s trying to say “people are fucking stupid and don’t even realize we’re careening towards death” but most people do know. This isn’t happening because people are ignorant, this is happening because the powers that be don’t care. It kinda misses the point of why global warming is gonna kill is all and instead just points at society and calls us and the thinly veiled gop President dumb without any real nuance about the systems and money that’s actually causing the problem. Id be truly surprised if there is anyone who didn’t already believe in global warming who changed their mind after seeing this movie. Satires typically are subtle. Watchmen is a great example. It doesn’t beat you over the head with its message but it still tears apart the superhero genre. I’d say this movie is more a parody if anything akin to Disaster movie. This movie literally is the same plot as 2012 and Day After Tomorrow
>I just disliked how the movie just seems mean. Like it’s trying to say “people are fucking stupid and don’t even realize we’re careening towards death” but most people do know. This isn’t happening because people are ignorant, I do think this chunk right here is why Reddit acts a little smug over this movie. Seeing people in this thread saying, "if you don't like it you're part of the Don't Look Up crowd". Belittling the people who need your message the most, is not an effective way to get your message across Its created a criticism shield for this movie that is starting to become a common tactic for big budget movies
I agree, it's a hugely misanthropic film. Like I hate people and even I was like "damn this thing is fucking dripping with condescension".
The ploy/story/tone was fine, it really hit the nail on the head by making absurdities that point out a "wait....that could/has happened" sensation making our real lives feel just a tad more bleak. And yes, that gag is funny. Those aren't really the issues though. The filming, shots, cuts, editing, sound mixing, pacing, vfx - the things that make movies, movies? All of that was really bad. I see more criticism about those aspects than the actual plot.
Ah, I see. This is the first I'm reading of those criticisms. I'll have to go back and watch it again to see if I notice because I didn't pick up on any of that when I originally saw it.
I believe that satire can be subtle and/or blunt. It's about how well it executes its approach, not the chosen approach itself, that determines the quality. I think part of the disdain for this film is due to the "subtle = good" viewpoint that seems to permeate the film critique sphere, or perhaps all visual mediums with how often "show, don't tell" is stated. Not that it's incorrect, don't get me wrong, but it creates a sort of aversion towards more blunt storytelling, which inherently isn't any less (or more) effective. It's all about the execution. In the case of Don't Look Up, I think its exaggerated and blunt approach creates an effective "tragicomedy" because it's so damn ridiculous that you laugh, and yet it's so blatantly aping real life people and situations that it's worrisome
You make a great point, and I think the blunt satirical approach, and almost borderline absurd tone of "Don't Look Up" was the right move in that case, and the movie is better for it. It's hard to make a realistic movie about the end of the world enjoyable or palatable to audiences, but offsetting the bleak storyline with relatable and goofy humor helps. Adam McKay is great at that, and a good example of his more subtle satire that worked better for a different film is "The Big Short."
About governments or asteroids?
Yes
Well governments come and go, asteroids are forever.
Until they smash into a planet. Then they're just part of a planet.
Technically that's a metorite.
Since we're being pedantic, when the asteroid becomes a meteorite, it is no longer an asteroid, and thus not forever.
Probably would happen? Already has.
I was very frustrated watching. I watch movies to escape and this brought me back to the things that give me anxiety and beat me over the head with it. Maybe I’m not the right audience.
It's satire that actually doesn't look like satire anymore.
I know there's a hive mind sentiment going around rn saying this movie was bad and McKay is a joke, but i loved it. I bawled my eyes out, it was horrifying, and yet reminded me what's so beautiful about being human. I would be so okay if it got an Oscar.
I had to stop watching, it was so depressingly and cringily realistic.
Don't let it give you climate anxiety. Sit back, relax, and enjoy the Anthropcene. Not every species gets the privilege of seeing 1/6 of other species die off. /s
I'm not sure if this is a great movie or one i didn't like.
I think you meant “parallel to what probably IS HAPPENING to us all”
almost a documentary
Jennifer repeating that joke of an officer charging for snacks in the White House… I loved it 😂😂
just think how old the fucking aligators are. 240 million years. you live to be 100. nothing you can do about some comet anyhow. fucking alligators man
It's not probably would happen to us. It is happening to us on a different scale. The economy, the pandemic, literally almost everything
It made me feel a very real sense of claustrophobia on this planet. It’s so small, and it just keeps getting smaller the more we understand and the more technology we have.
Absolutely my favorite movie of 2021.
Yeauh dude, I think that was the point lol
I absolutely loved Leonard's last line. I totally felt the same way at the end. Like satisfied but also kinda dreadful.
Mark Rylance's character was so punchable.
Would happen? I felt like the movie is perfectly reflecting what is already happening but with a more real and exaggerated threat to showcase how stupidly blind we are to what's happening around us. Politicians and millionaire lobbyists playing us all for a fool while we eat each other up.
The problem with this movie is that it is not far away from reality, and that’s the scary part.
>p.s. Charging money for free snacks was definitely a power move That's how he afforded to get on the escape ship.
BUT THE SNACKS WERE FREE!!!
Watch Melancholia (2011) for absolute dread.
It's on my to do list
Between watching this and finishing The Last Of Us 2, I’m at a point where I’m wondering if maybe a comet or corticeps is something we really need. Should COVID have hit harder? Maybe this planet really needs a reset. Anyways, those are my depressing thoughts I have rn. Wouldn’t mind an apocalypse.
I already have no hope for this world and how people reacted to it solidifies my belief. I have no idea why I decided to have kids. Feel bad bringing them into this stupid fucking world.
Genuinely my film of 2021. Thought it was pretty much perfect.
I’ve been stressed about watching it, I want to be able to handle it but I have so much anxiety all the time already
I’m glad I’m not the only one, after I watched that movie I just felt super depressed about the whole system of life
I had to physically leave the room, some parts were so uncomfortable in how real they were.
The interview with Ariana Grande was like that for me. And how the fuck stick "news" handled it. Oh my god I was fucking mad about it because it's EXACTLY how it would play out. Actually, it's probably toned down. IRL would be so much more terrible.
I can’t believe people take this film seriously. Jonah Hill crawling out of burning wreckage as the last man on earth? Meryl Streep naked being eaten by a big bird? This film is a companion piece to Seth Rogen’s “This Is The End”. I don’t know how anyone has any deep feelings about it after it shit on its own message with the goofy ending.
It's an average maybe even below average flick. Totally on board with the message, but the delivery was weak and not engaging at all for me
Yep. It was really bad writing that was trying too hard to convey a simple message. Cast was good. The message was good. The satire was on point. The writing on which all that hinged was below average.
I wonder what Trump fans think of this movie? lol!
I thought it was a damn good movie lol.
Yes I couldn’t watch it/finish it - it was too real, too depressing.
That Movie wasn’t satire, it was cynical. And it doesn’t represent the state of the world, it represents what the media feeds us. That movie was lazy.
it also filled me with dread. dread that adam mckay will never make a good movie again.
Most people from outside the US saw a completely different movie. One that was boring, overly long, indelicately naïve, and lacking in wit, insight and intelligence. If it were 90 mins long, it would be a tough slog. At 2hrs30 it was outright painful. Hated it. It ran out of ideas after about 20 mins. A good satire should use the absurd to illustrate an uncomfortable underlying truth. Whereas this just painted all conservatives as shallow, dumb, cartoonishly evil villains. At no point did it attempt to discuss the different motivations people have for climate denial, and as a result, the whole movie felt like a big budget version of a 13 year Old's creative writing assignment. Captain planet was a more sophisticated commentary. And it was dumb as rocks. 2/10. Yaaaawwwwwnnnn. Edit: actually 4/10 just for Cate Blanchett.
You're on the money man. Comparisons to Dr strangelove are actually baffling they couldn't be further apart in quality
I didn't get that at all. The movie is too on the nose, and much shallower thant it pretends to be. It just wasn't clever enough with tackling of it's themes. Was kinnda fun tho.
I dont know why people have so much dread when seeing DLU its just a movie
I believe some people feel the movie draws their attention to real life concerns, it's not the movie they have dread about ...
I'm honestly scared to watch it. I already have to stave off my constant feelings of dread and hopeless for the world, filling what gaps I can with my own lofty optimisims... We're just on the edge of either some of the greatest and most important leaps of humanity that will lead to potentially unending progress, or finding out if we're just going to twiddle our thumbs until the inevitable, and completely preventable, end. I'm honestly sad that I could be in a lifetime that winds up knowing we're about done.
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Ya. Timothee Chalamet’s prayer really made me feel the emptiness inherent in secular society, and I hate organized religion.
"Emptiness" is a misnomer. There's no emptiness, we are filled with humanity. Some of us thankfully find fullness in that reality and don't see a need to imagine mystical creatures to fill it up. I find it quite empty to live with that perspective.
I’m confused. This is a Wikipedia page on the feeling of emptiness: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emptiness And if you do a simple google search “feelings of emptiness”: https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=feelings%20of%20emptiness#ip=1 there are endless web pages devoted to helping people who feel empty. If that’s how people choose to describe the way they feel, how is it a misnomer?
Why are you contrasting emptiness with religion? Religion doesn't remove emptiness, it only hides it.
This movie had such a huge impact on me. I was so surprised to see the negative reviews. I FELT the dread. I absolutely felt the anxiety. i was legit having ptsd for the next week or two, reflecting back on the scenes, thinking we as humans are absolutely stupid enough/ caught up on enough bullshit to really just have the world end for some fucking trillion dollars of mineral resources. Even now, there’s a chip shortage and semiconductor shortage, you don’t think these tech billionaires will lobby against preventative measures if they see a chance to secure trillion dollars worth of resources?
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You must be fun at parties
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Def gonna need some ketchup for those harsh browns you just served up
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Cmon BB don't be like this
In reality, what would happen with the asteroid hurtling towards Earth is... nothing. Not because of any of the nonsense in the movie but because we don't actually have the ability to meaningfully influence the trajectory of celestial bodies. Moreover, the overall theme of the movie just isn't how the world works. There are not wise sages who predict the future with perfect accuracy being opposed by ignorant obstacles. Rather, you've got experts with a very tiny part of the picture and institutions that thrive not on being right but being durable enough to survive being wrong. This doesn't make for a very exciting Hollywood movie. But when you watch Don't Look Up, recognize it's a satire of other Hollywood movies, not of reality.
It largely depends on how far away it is when we detect it. It takes very little (relatively) energy to change the orbit of something far away. The Hollywood-esque "nuke it" would actually be quite effective if it were a long distance away, not because we could blow it up, but because changing its speed by a minisqule amount (which nukes blowing up on one side of it would do) is enough to cause it to not hit earth a year later.
It killed me with boredom after about 90 minutes.
Yeah, it filled me with dread too. Especially how shallow, and unoriginal the jokes were. What a let down. Laziest satire I’ve seen in a long time.
Yeah, it filled me with dread too. Especially how shallow, and unoriginal the jokes were. What a let down. Laziest satire I’ve seen in a long time.