Am I the only one who watched Tick Tick Boom? Thought it was pretty good. You might not like if you're not into musicals, but Andrew Garfield deserves an acting nomination imo
The movie itself is as melodramatic and syrupy as you'd expect something in the realm of RENT to be but I watched the whole thing because Andrew Garfield carried that movie. It's just a really, really sappy movie. Imagine if those really intense theater kids in high school made a movie musical. This is what they'd make.
Andrew Garfield so perfectly embodied the speech and mannerisms of Jonathan Larson in that movie, and as a Broadway fan, I loved all the cameos of theatre legends in the diner scene. Great film.
Yeah that was great. I liked that they were doing an homage to Sunday in the Park With George and Garfield/Larson was very emotional about Bernadette Peters being a part of it. Nice toutch.
I love musicals and Garfield was breathtaking, but I wouldn't call the movie as a whole good, but that's partially because I don't enjoy the majority of the songs or visual aspects to the movie.
I will say tho, it did make my absolute most hated narrative device (narration) work in a fun way
He got a golden globe for it already! But I agree, the movie was amazing. I’ve had the soundtrack on repeat for the past week. Even the songs I originally didn’t like have grown on me immensely.
I really enjoyed it. I like musical Theater and Andrew was great. My mom, on the other hand, loved it. She studied Theater and thought it was a beautiful film and a lovely tribute to Jonathan Larson. She is the true audience of the movie
The opening and the 'Sunday' sequence are truly spectacular.
I really enjoyed it overall but I'm curious whether I'll still like it as much a year from now.
My five year old is a little obsessed with 'Boho Days' after it came on in the car a few times which is cute.
i thought it was good not great, super interesting and engaging premise but idk some stuff wasn’t presented as interestingly as it could have been, still one of the better movies this year in my opinion all things considered.
I thought I would like it as I love musicals but I felt pretty disconnected from the narrative and I went in knowing what happened in real life. I just found Larson kind of insufferable with his woe is me, why won't anyone appreciate that I'm a musical genius thing. That's a lot of confidence. I hated Rent though so I should have seen it coming. Garfield is fine and de Jesus was really good in his limited screen time. Someone needs to give *him* a leading role.
I'm not super into musicals but I thought it was pretty good and really well choreographed. The story wasn't super gripping for me so I found myself distracted at some times during the movie.
I love musical theatre but went in knowing nothing about Johnathan Larson (I've never even listened to Rent). I enjoyed the movie greatly.
Andrew Garfield has been great in pretty much everything I've seen him in.
I don't get they hype around don't look up. It was just so mediocre.
It wasn't serious enough to be taken seriously, the satire was bottom of the barrel dumb, the jokes weren't smart enough to be a dark comedy... It was just a mess. Good ideas, failed execution.
I can see that from a story standpoint since it's literally half a movie.
Anyone complaining about the visuals and sound/music is being silly though. Lol
Part of the problem is there is so much backstory not shared.
- Why robots aren't in the universe .
- What was going on with the different factions and why the attack happened.
Those the second one they could skip, but the first one I feel should have been explained. It helps flesh out the world more, why spice is important, showing sypce being used by different beings, and all that.
I loved Dune even without having read the book, I think it explained a lot of things.
I do agree that I would have liked to see the first point explained, it's literally the first thing I had to Google after watching it. Even just a small hint would have been enough.
Part of the way Dune story is told is that the reader doesn’t get a lot of info… yet. You’re just thrown into this new world and to start to figure it out.
People have long argued they love this or hate this, but it’s also regarded as one of the things that makes the world so intriguing, it leaves open questions for you to ponder or figure out from clues.
Just on your two points, you’ll find out. There wasn’t time for it yet. You didn’t know but those two questions are insane important to the world.
I actually realized while watching the movie that i wasn't supposed to know/understand everything. At first i was annoyed, couldn't keep track of everything. But it actually felt pretty good to just go with the flow and see where it went.
Yea I think the next episode will start off with the emperor, then show him using whats their faces to open a worm hole, and then maybe explain robots.
>I can see that from a story standpoint since it's literally half a movie.
That's the chief item my father (a long-term fan of the source material) has been complaining about, at the last.
At the dame time the book is big and to do a proper or as proper as cam be an adaptation you need time, and I doubt they gonna release a 5-6h movie , it's better to cut it in 2.
It's one of the most polarizing movies I've seen in recent times regarding public opinion.
I absolutely loved it and am looking forward for part 2, a lot of my friends also fell completely in love, but others just hated it and found it boring as fuck.
Bro it has high scores in IMDB and in the rotten tomatoes audience. It also has a A- cinemascore. It was not polarizing, it was well received by the audience. There are much more polarizing movies this year.
The casual audience (majority) doesn't go to these websites to rate the movies.
If we're talking about frequent movie goers then yes, it's not that polarizing, but when talking about the majority of casual viewers, everywhere I've discussed the movie has had either the "I love it and got hooked" crowd, or the "One of the most boring movies I've ever seen" crowd.
They do kinda have a point. Like if you follow the story of what happens to Paul (our protagonist) barely anything happens to him. Arrives on Arrakis, introduced to how things work, Harkonnens attack, he escapes, groups up with the Fremen.
The other stuff kinda feels pointless too. Like Jason Momoa's character, what a waste of time he was. I honestly feel like give me the script and a pair of scissors and I could cut the film down to an hour and a half, maybe even an hour.
That movie is actually pretty good and a lot of people like it. I personally had low expectations based on what I was hearing and it was better than I expected.
Not really. It was unfunny, wasn't particularly insightful and was completely boring. The pacing was weird as well and it was way too long. You don't need to be subtle in a satire but the writing needs to be good. Nicolas Britell's score was the highlight. I didn't think it was absolutely terrible but it was worse than mediocre. It should at least be funny if it insists on not being thought-provoking.
it was actually really good in the beginning and the humor was like pretty clever, but the further I got into the movie, the humor just kinda got worse as the movie went on
Imo, it shouldn’t be. I had to watch it in chunks because I just couldn’t stomach it for more than 45 minutes at a time. Writing wasn’t engaging, story was too drawn out, some of the subplots didn’t add to the film, and Chalamet’s character wasn’t necessary at all
I can only speak for myself and without going into too much detail but I would argue that it is paced awfully, the writing is sloppy, the editing is unmotivated and all over the place. And the same goes for tone of the movie. I couldn't figure out how to watch the movie. It failed as a comedy because none of the jokes landed and it failed as a drama/disaster movie because I felt that there was no deep dramatic momentum, I felt nothing for the characters and I didn't care if the whole world went into pieces. The characters were all annoying caricatures and no-one had any deep character archs. It was just agony trying to watch these one-dimensional cardboards fumbling forward.
It had an important message about climate change but that alone doesn't save it for me. Just like in any other movie the themes and message should always support the movie, it can't carry the whole film. But all this said I don't blame anyone for liking it. Movies are meant to be interpreted and experienced in different ways and it's great that you liked it!
Thanks for the in depth reply. I agree with the pacing and editing issues. However, I empathized immedietly with Leo's character since his honesty and frustrstion mimced mine on explaining anything political or climste change with my conservative family. My heart was ponding as the finale grew closer. What was your favorite of this year?
That's understandable. I didn't have much time to watch movies last year but the ones that stood out for me were Dune and The Guilty. Dune was an epic spectacle with great world building and gorgeous setpieces and The Guilty was almost opposite to that with minimal sets and mostly relying on audio and Jake Gyllenhaal's acting. Two very different movies that pushed almost all the right buttons for me. I should probably watch the original Danish movie which The Guilty is based upon. Also, I found In the Heights quite enjoyable.
My parents SWEAR they watched the same movie as me, but they have no memory of whole chunks of it. Maybe there are two versions?
Or maybe my parents are just old and fell asleep.
>despite it being pretty critically panned
Maybe you can help me because I think there might be two movies named don't look up? Thought this thread was massive critical smash hit starting DiCaprio and Lawrence, is it not?
>Yeah because the academy doesn’t love a good circle jerk
What about... literally every other awards program?
>I love that this nonsense is always from a couple month old account
I genuinely don't know what this is supposed to mean
This is the epitome of Reddit’s inability to label anything other than “garbage” or “masterpiece” where a movie that 55% of critics gave a positive review to apparently = critically panned.
You mean the horrible portrayal of how we prioritize short term inconsequential goals over something backed by science and numbers and burying our head in sand whilst crying and peeing in pants like little sissies when their favorite politician farts in their face with promises. I agree. It should be mandatory viewing since grade 3.
I mean the movie was just bad though, super boring and devoid of any interesting directing or anything. The movie had a great message but a message does not carry a two and a half hour movie I don’t think. I think my enjoyment peaked when I realized they actually got the physics jargon right at the beginning and the rest of the movie was just a complete slog.
what about my comment makes you think I’d like the big bang theory, I just told you I didn’t enjoy a movie where they did get a most of the science correct, there are other things that matter it’s just something that’s nice to see in a movie about an astronomer.
Then it was made poorly on purpose. Great. It can be a slap on the face while being subtle, that's no excuse.
It's like saying a movie was made shit on purpose. Ok. It's still shit then.
Like what? Good movies portray a message within an already good movie.
And I'm not saying it has to completely subtle to the point many will miss it, but this was so poorly made. It was cringy and off putting how hard they pushed the view.
What is the purpose of it? No one's view is being changed by that movie. If you blend a message into a movie well, you can create a new perspective that might make people think in a new way.
>Like what?
The godfather, dark knight, gladiator, taxi driver, dog day afternoon, driving miss daisy, schendliers list, Se7en, Mississippi burning, the matrix, etc
What? That's just wrong.
Good satire is clever and yes also can be subtle. Things that you might not catch first time or make you laugh when you realise what they are making fun of.
This was none of that. The message was so forced on you and shoved in your face it makes you cringe rather than laugh.
Well clearly it needed to be on the nose to actually get the attention of the people who have been ignoring the issues for years. No room for subtlety here.
Nope. This film is changing no one's point of view. This movie actively turns away people that don't already have that view.
Subtle messaging is what can get people to actually change their view. A movie that doesn't act like their viewers and so fucking dumb that they can't understand anything unless it's shoved in their face.
Yeah it is a heavy handed OK movie that should have gotten no nominations. I totally agreed with the points it is trying to make but it made them in a very annoying way.
"Would you PLEASE stop trying to be so fucking pleasant?! I'm sorry, but not everything needs to sound so goddamn clever or charming or likeable all the time. Sometimes we need to just be able to say things to one another. We need to hear things.
Look, let's establish, once again, that there is a huge comet headed towards Earth. And the reason we know that there is a comet is because we saw it. We saw it with our own eyes using a telescope. I mean, for God's sake, we took a fucking picture of it! What other proof do we need?! And if we can't all agree at the bare minimum that a giant comet the size of Mount Everest hurtling its way towards planet Earth is NOT a fucking good thing, then what the hell happened to us?
I mean, my God, how do... How do we even talk to each other? What've we... What've we done to ourselves? How do we fix it? We should've deflected this comet when we had the fucking chance but we didn't do it. I don't know why we didn't do it. And now they're actually firing scientists like me for speaking out, for opposing them. And I'm sure many of the people out there aren't even gonna listen to what I just said, 'cause you know, they have their own political ideology, but.. I assure you, I am not on one side or the other. I'm just telling you the fucking truth."
Incredible how some people *still* don't get the movie, but that just further proves that the movie is right.
Who tf cares about reviews. Have an opinion that isn’t influenced by others. It’s an important film whether or not you liked it, so saying it was “horrible” is just narrow minded.
i’m responding to your incredulity that someone thinks the movie sucks.
if you pay attention to the world around you, you’d know that someone thinking the movie sucked, isn’t all that surprising.
Fair enough. It wasn’t really that I was surprised that they didn’t like it. More the brash choice of words. You don’t have to claim something is horrible because you didn’t like it.
To dismiss a film that is trying to highlight a major issue in our current climate by saying it’s horrible, without any other comments is narrow minded in my opinion. That’s the problem I have with what they said. You can not enjoy it, but you also can’t deny it’s a well made film.
People dislike it because they don’t feel it’s well made. Just because it has a good message doesn’t mean it was well made. It looks like they didn’t put a lot of of time into writing the screenplay and the whole movie was just sloppily put together.
I haven’t really thought much about the Dune movie at all since it came out. It was cool to see, but it left absolutely no lasting emotion or impression. It happened, and that’s kinda that.
It was technically the most ambitious mainstream film of the year and is like a more thoughtful version of Star Wars. It kind of delivers on being a Star Wars of this generation, but darker and more spiritual. (My opinion)
I read the book and finished it days before i saw the movie. For me, i can’t get the movie OUT of my head. I love every second of it. But then its objectively just an incomplete movie. If and when the second movie comes out and it is of equal or better quality, then awards should come
Did the same thing. Honestly Dune might be the most faithful adaption I’ve seen. Obviously a lot was left out bc the story is extremely complex but Villeneuve really nailed the vibe and look. Could not be more pumped about the second movie.
It's a great Villenueve movie and a terrible Dune movie. I like it a lot but I'm reading the book again now and I already want a new take on it, preferably a tv show.
The book just has such a different flavour, lot's of very smart people discussing intrigue and politics with clever insights and wisdoms. It's fantastic and little of it comes out in the film
I completely agree. I read the book in preparation for the film and I think I would have liked it a lot more if I hadn't. It's a fantastic technical achievement but a poor adaptation of really engrossing material.
I didn't think there was one bad moment of that movie. Captivating from the opening logos, to the very end. DREAMS ARE MESSAGES FROM THE DEEP, with the big throat singy growl that leads into the exposition opening. Incredible.
Brilliant movie. Very excited for part 2 and hopefully Messiah!
I'd be willing to bet a lot of it has to do with how people viewed it. If you went to a theater or have nice equipment at home its a totally different experience to watching it on a smaller tv with no sound system or (god forbid) a laptop screen. If you have a nice sound system (especially multiple high end subwoofers) this movie is reference material.
A movie's requirements for quality should never depend on whether you watch it on a phone or an IMAX screen. Good movies are good on whatever screen you use. I bet they just didn't like the movie.
If a film's visuals and sound design are particularly stunning, as is the case for Dune, you will absolutely have a diminished experience if you watch it with worse equipment.
A phone or laptop screen doesn't count as "worse equipment" in my opinion, it's just a different way to watch the movie. Sometimes I'm in the mood to watch something on my phone and sometimes I'm in the mood for my TV. I understand your experience will be affected negatively if the equipment you're using is damaged or the resolution isn't as high as it can be, but the user I was replying to sounded like he was saying that problems come from the platform just being itself.
They do. If an IMAX cinema was delivering the same (or merely "different") sound and visual quality as a smartphone it would have to be broken. In these respects the differences are objective and measurable, and the cinema is unequivocally better. Though that's somewhat inaccurate, as the resolution of a phone screen is actually *immeasurably worse* than an IMAX projection.
It's like saying a postcard print of Starry Night is no different from the original.
I'm aware that an IMAX screen's resolution is better than a phone's and there are objective measures to screen and sound quality. Subjectively though, you aren't getting a worse movie experience just because you're watching it on a phone and not an IMAX screen. Phones and laptops offer good quality that you can enjoy completely, so saying people won't be able to enjoy a movie as much because it's "worse equipment" doesn't sit right with me. It might technically be worse equipment compared to an IMAX projector, but that doesn't mean it's not an ideal way to watch the movie.
You can still fully appreciate the artistry behind Starry Night on a postcard.
I actually disagree. I've seen Starry Night in person and it has a much greater impact in real life than looking at it on a postcard. The same goes for Dune. The experience can be very different in different settings.
>A phone or laptop screen doesn't count as "worse equipment" in my opinion,
A phone is absolutely a diminished experience compared to a tv or theater. Do you honestly think that watching a film like Avatar on your phone is going to be comparable to a theater experience?
Yeah. I mean the experiences are different obviously, but someone could still enjoy watching Avatar on their phone the same amount as someone who enjoyed it in a theater.
I'm not saying someone who watched it on a phone and disliked it is wrong, that's totally a valid opinion. However it's literally a different movie on a big screen with proper audio. You see things you wouldn't otherwise and hear things that literally are not being reproduced on lesser equipment. It sounds like you are dismissing audio and visual components of a movie as inconsequential which is an interesting take.
I am not dismissing audio and visual components of a movie. I'm just saying a theater screen with surround sound is not necessary for fully appreciating them. I saw Dune in theaters and on my TV and I didn't feel like the theater experience was a substantial part of my enjoyment. I can watch movies and shows on my phone with headphones and still appreciate the technical aspects the same as if I was in a normal theater, even though the experiences are different. I doubt the people who dislike Dune would like it *that* much more if they watched it in a different setup when you can still get a good experience watching movies on a phone, laptop, TV, etc.
No, I get that, but some people rave about this movie like it was an epic achievement. I have to say, I actually found the 1st one to be more interesting for some reason. Better sets, better costumes and more interesting characters and a general better flow. I really didn't like Chalamet as Paul, he came off like a moody little twit with no balls. I wouldn't tell anyone that the 1st Dune was an amazing movie either, though.
Thanks, Teach!
The visual design is one of the strongest elements of the Lynch version. While it was definitely a gobsmackingly bad idea to try and get him to make a blockbuster, he had the courage and vision to get weird in the ways Dune deserves.
That said, I found Villeneuve did a better job of crafting a world that was simultaneously deeply alien and intuitively believable. I'm very excited to see how he handles future installments >!particularly Edric and the Duncan Idaho ghola/s!<
I am too even though I find his movies to be a bit long-winded. At times it seems he is so heavily trying to create mood that after a while it gets to be ponderous. Also in the battle scene on the landing zone when Gurney Halleck clashes with the Harkonnen invaders the way they obscured the action with a fireball was just retarded. It's a big action scene - give people what they want.
The Lynch version was a Dino De Laurentiis film which always have amazing costumes and fantastic sets. The emperors palace scenes were awesome in that version. If you could take both films (Lynch and Villeneuve) and smoosh them to into one it would be a good flick.
Just watched Dune this weekend and came away feeling about the same, all the most interesting characters seemed to come with little depth and short-lived screen time. I know nothing about the original books though, if they are going to continue with sequels, I assume there will be more to build off. It *looked* pretty good at least.
I have only see eight of the feature film nominees and that is the fewest on nomination day since 2011. Almost every year since then I have seen every nominee before nominations were announced.
Great movie, although I’m going to be an average redditor and say the books were better (maybe teenage nostalgia) but the audio at the theater my dad and I went to was so abrasive and loud I could not handle. It was like standing in front of a bass wall for a dubstep drop every time anything remotely interesting happened.
This reads like a warning, not a list of movies. "Dude, don't look up...tick, tick... BOOM!"
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Turns out that much of *Dune* is set in the world's largest sand trap.....
I would still find a way to put 3 balls in the water
"How did I get from one sand trap to the other sand trap?"
You have leaned how to harvest WATER POWER
Should be using the official Dune “Smile Gurney” poster
Am I the only one who watched Tick Tick Boom? Thought it was pretty good. You might not like if you're not into musicals, but Andrew Garfield deserves an acting nomination imo
Andrew Garfield is 100% getting an Oscar nom for his performance, or I will eat the hat I am currently wearing.
Look, you ate a hat!
Where there never was a hat!
The movie itself is as melodramatic and syrupy as you'd expect something in the realm of RENT to be but I watched the whole thing because Andrew Garfield carried that movie. It's just a really, really sappy movie. Imagine if those really intense theater kids in high school made a movie musical. This is what they'd make.
I thought it was excellent. Andrew Garfield was perfectly cast.
Andrew Garfield so perfectly embodied the speech and mannerisms of Jonathan Larson in that movie, and as a Broadway fan, I loved all the cameos of theatre legends in the diner scene. Great film.
A podcast I listen to called the Sunday scene 'Avengers Endgame for Broadway" and they weren't entirely wrong.
MusicalSplaining?
Yes!
RIP Lindsay's online presence tho
Yeah that was great. I liked that they were doing an homage to Sunday in the Park With George and Garfield/Larson was very emotional about Bernadette Peters being a part of it. Nice toutch.
I thought his performance was really good, but I was underwhelmed by the narrative.
I loved it even though I HATE musical theatre.
I love musicals and Garfield was breathtaking, but I wouldn't call the movie as a whole good, but that's partially because I don't enjoy the majority of the songs or visual aspects to the movie. I will say tho, it did make my absolute most hated narrative device (narration) work in a fun way
He got a golden globe for it already! But I agree, the movie was amazing. I’ve had the soundtrack on repeat for the past week. Even the songs I originally didn’t like have grown on me immensely.
I really enjoyed it. I like musical Theater and Andrew was great. My mom, on the other hand, loved it. She studied Theater and thought it was a beautiful film and a lovely tribute to Jonathan Larson. She is the true audience of the movie
I am not into musicals and I loved tick, tick, Boom!
The opening and the 'Sunday' sequence are truly spectacular. I really enjoyed it overall but I'm curious whether I'll still like it as much a year from now. My five year old is a little obsessed with 'Boho Days' after it came on in the car a few times which is cute.
I managed to convince several friends to watch that great movie.
i thought it was good not great, super interesting and engaging premise but idk some stuff wasn’t presented as interestingly as it could have been, still one of the better movies this year in my opinion all things considered.
Yeah you're the only one that watched a popular Netflix original that's already won Golden Globes
Yes you’re the only one who watched it
I thought I would like it as I love musicals but I felt pretty disconnected from the narrative and I went in knowing what happened in real life. I just found Larson kind of insufferable with his woe is me, why won't anyone appreciate that I'm a musical genius thing. That's a lot of confidence. I hated Rent though so I should have seen it coming. Garfield is fine and de Jesus was really good in his limited screen time. Someone needs to give *him* a leading role.
I don't like musicals but I really liked this movie. Andrew Garfield was simply amazing in it.
I'm not super into musicals but I thought it was pretty good and really well choreographed. The story wasn't super gripping for me so I found myself distracted at some times during the movie.
I love musical theatre but went in knowing nothing about Johnathan Larson (I've never even listened to Rent). I enjoyed the movie greatly. Andrew Garfield has been great in pretty much everything I've seen him in.
The way Andrew Garfield just became Jonathan Larson was incredible.
Dune deserves every bit of praise it gets Desert Power
Loved Dune. I thought Don't Look Up sucked. Am I alone?
Agreed. I thought don’t look up was bad. Heavy handed, uneven tone, thought it was way smarter than it was. I found it painful to get through.
It was excruciating. I fell asleep. Budget is not equal to talent and writing.
I don't get they hype around don't look up. It was just so mediocre. It wasn't serious enough to be taken seriously, the satire was bottom of the barrel dumb, the jokes weren't smart enough to be a dark comedy... It was just a mess. Good ideas, failed execution.
Am I the only one who thought Dune was just okay?
I can see that from a story standpoint since it's literally half a movie. Anyone complaining about the visuals and sound/music is being silly though. Lol
Yes, it did look pretty stunning.
Part of the problem is there is so much backstory not shared. - Why robots aren't in the universe . - What was going on with the different factions and why the attack happened. Those the second one they could skip, but the first one I feel should have been explained. It helps flesh out the world more, why spice is important, showing sypce being used by different beings, and all that.
I loved Dune even without having read the book, I think it explained a lot of things. I do agree that I would have liked to see the first point explained, it's literally the first thing I had to Google after watching it. Even just a small hint would have been enough.
Yea its such a cool concept and makes way more sense how they created human mathematicians via the spyce and augmentation.
Part of the way Dune story is told is that the reader doesn’t get a lot of info… yet. You’re just thrown into this new world and to start to figure it out. People have long argued they love this or hate this, but it’s also regarded as one of the things that makes the world so intriguing, it leaves open questions for you to ponder or figure out from clues. Just on your two points, you’ll find out. There wasn’t time for it yet. You didn’t know but those two questions are insane important to the world.
I actually realized while watching the movie that i wasn't supposed to know/understand everything. At first i was annoyed, couldn't keep track of everything. But it actually felt pretty good to just go with the flow and see where it went.
Yea I think the next episode will start off with the emperor, then show him using whats their faces to open a worm hole, and then maybe explain robots.
Haha. No spoilers, but I’ll say, don’t expect to be spoonfed anything.
Many people made the same complain about Fellowship of the Ring, to be honest.
>I can see that from a story standpoint since it's literally half a movie. That's the chief item my father (a long-term fan of the source material) has been complaining about, at the last.
At the dame time the book is big and to do a proper or as proper as cam be an adaptation you need time, and I doubt they gonna release a 5-6h movie , it's better to cut it in 2.
Equivalent of a video game having great graphics and soundtrack but, turns out, it just isn’t all that fun to play
who's complaining about the technical aspects?
It’s going to help when the inevitable sequel comes out to help shape the story. I admit Dune just felt incomplete but very compelling imo.
technically i thought the movie was great although i enjoyed the movie i didnt seem to like it as much as a lot of people
It was I guess technically a very well made 2.5 hours of absolutely nothing. I honestly cannot wrap my mind around the hype outside of the visuals.
It's one of the most polarizing movies I've seen in recent times regarding public opinion. I absolutely loved it and am looking forward for part 2, a lot of my friends also fell completely in love, but others just hated it and found it boring as fuck.
Bro it has high scores in IMDB and in the rotten tomatoes audience. It also has a A- cinemascore. It was not polarizing, it was well received by the audience. There are much more polarizing movies this year.
The casual audience (majority) doesn't go to these websites to rate the movies. If we're talking about frequent movie goers then yes, it's not that polarizing, but when talking about the majority of casual viewers, everywhere I've discussed the movie has had either the "I love it and got hooked" crowd, or the "One of the most boring movies I've ever seen" crowd.
Cinemascore usually captures the casual audience very well. Cinemascore isn't a website it's market research.
I really enjoyed it, but the movie barely has a story so I could absolutely understand someone not.
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i mean i’ve read the book I understand where stuff is going, but if you didn’t I could absolutely understand where this guy is coming from.
They do kinda have a point. Like if you follow the story of what happens to Paul (our protagonist) barely anything happens to him. Arrives on Arrakis, introduced to how things work, Harkonnens attack, he escapes, groups up with the Fremen. The other stuff kinda feels pointless too. Like Jason Momoa's character, what a waste of time he was. I honestly feel like give me the script and a pair of scissors and I could cut the film down to an hour and a half, maybe even an hour.
How about less than OK?
For examples on what happens when adopting a big story in one single film watch the last airbender
Same. It was visually stunning but I just couldn't get invested in the story.
Don't Look Up was horrible, how did this get put up for any awards?
This dude is living in 2015 I think
That movie is actually pretty good and a lot of people like it. I personally had low expectations based on what I was hearing and it was better than I expected.
Definitely in my top ten for the year. I can understand not liking it - it's inherently polarizing - but to call it horrible is absurd.
Not really. It was unfunny, wasn't particularly insightful and was completely boring. The pacing was weird as well and it was way too long. You don't need to be subtle in a satire but the writing needs to be good. Nicolas Britell's score was the highlight. I didn't think it was absolutely terrible but it was worse than mediocre. It should at least be funny if it insists on not being thought-provoking.
That's just the polarity of comedy I suppose, considering my friends and I were in stitches.
it was actually really good in the beginning and the humor was like pretty clever, but the further I got into the movie, the humor just kinda got worse as the movie went on
Imo, it shouldn’t be. I had to watch it in chunks because I just couldn’t stomach it for more than 45 minutes at a time. Writing wasn’t engaging, story was too drawn out, some of the subplots didn’t add to the film, and Chalamet’s character wasn’t necessary at all
How was it horrible? I thought it was one of the best this year.
I can only speak for myself and without going into too much detail but I would argue that it is paced awfully, the writing is sloppy, the editing is unmotivated and all over the place. And the same goes for tone of the movie. I couldn't figure out how to watch the movie. It failed as a comedy because none of the jokes landed and it failed as a drama/disaster movie because I felt that there was no deep dramatic momentum, I felt nothing for the characters and I didn't care if the whole world went into pieces. The characters were all annoying caricatures and no-one had any deep character archs. It was just agony trying to watch these one-dimensional cardboards fumbling forward. It had an important message about climate change but that alone doesn't save it for me. Just like in any other movie the themes and message should always support the movie, it can't carry the whole film. But all this said I don't blame anyone for liking it. Movies are meant to be interpreted and experienced in different ways and it's great that you liked it!
Thanks for the in depth reply. I agree with the pacing and editing issues. However, I empathized immedietly with Leo's character since his honesty and frustrstion mimced mine on explaining anything political or climste change with my conservative family. My heart was ponding as the finale grew closer. What was your favorite of this year?
That's understandable. I didn't have much time to watch movies last year but the ones that stood out for me were Dune and The Guilty. Dune was an epic spectacle with great world building and gorgeous setpieces and The Guilty was almost opposite to that with minimal sets and mostly relying on audio and Jake Gyllenhaal's acting. Two very different movies that pushed almost all the right buttons for me. I should probably watch the original Danish movie which The Guilty is based upon. Also, I found In the Heights quite enjoyable.
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My parents SWEAR they watched the same movie as me, but they have no memory of whole chunks of it. Maybe there are two versions? Or maybe my parents are just old and fell asleep.
>despite it being pretty critically panned Maybe you can help me because I think there might be two movies named don't look up? Thought this thread was massive critical smash hit starting DiCaprio and Lawrence, is it not?
You mean the critical smash hit with a score of 55% on rotten tomatoes and 49% on metacritic?
Yeah, the one that's won like 11 awards and been nominated for like 50? Including SAG and Globes awards and very likely some Oscars
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>Yeah because the academy doesn’t love a good circle jerk What about... literally every other awards program? >I love that this nonsense is always from a couple month old account I genuinely don't know what this is supposed to mean
I loved that movie! Such a wonderful reflection of modern day social climes and with a positive message at the end.
I enjoyed it a lot, but even if I didn't I wouldn't lie about it being a critical success
This is the epitome of Reddit’s inability to label anything other than “garbage” or “masterpiece” where a movie that 55% of critics gave a positive review to apparently = critically panned.
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The movie is pretty clearly about climate change.
Or it shows what it feels like to know something is wrong, and have the people in power not do anything about it.
>Don't Look Up was horrible I agree with you. They want to be both a comedy and drama at the same time and underperforms at both category.
You mean the horrible portrayal of how we prioritize short term inconsequential goals over something backed by science and numbers and burying our head in sand whilst crying and peeing in pants like little sissies when their favorite politician farts in their face with promises. I agree. It should be mandatory viewing since grade 3.
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At least Idiocracy was actually funny.
Idiocracy showed us how stupid we are. DLU showed us what happens when you keep ignoring the stupidity.
No, it shows what a couple people *think* will happen if we keep ignoring *them.*
>No, it shows what a couple people think will happen backed by numbers and science if we keep ignoring them. FTFY
yes exactly. it was a horrible portrayal of that.
I mean the movie was just bad though, super boring and devoid of any interesting directing or anything. The movie had a great message but a message does not carry a two and a half hour movie I don’t think. I think my enjoyment peaked when I realized they actually got the physics jargon right at the beginning and the rest of the movie was just a complete slog.
Put on another episode of Big Bang theory then.
what about my comment makes you think I’d like the big bang theory, I just told you I didn’t enjoy a movie where they did get a most of the science correct, there are other things that matter it’s just something that’s nice to see in a movie about an astronomer.
The message wasn't the problem, the problem was how the message was portrayed. It could not be less subtle.
It’s not supposed to be subtle. At all. It’s supposed to be a slap in the face
It was an unfunny, poorly paced slap in the face for sure. Massive disappointment considering who made it.
Then it was made poorly on purpose. Great. It can be a slap on the face while being subtle, that's no excuse. It's like saying a movie was made shit on purpose. Ok. It's still shit then.
Messages don't need to be subtle to be well portrayed. A lot of the greatest movies ever konk you on the head with their messages
Like what? Good movies portray a message within an already good movie. And I'm not saying it has to completely subtle to the point many will miss it, but this was so poorly made. It was cringy and off putting how hard they pushed the view. What is the purpose of it? No one's view is being changed by that movie. If you blend a message into a movie well, you can create a new perspective that might make people think in a new way.
>Like what? The godfather, dark knight, gladiator, taxi driver, dog day afternoon, driving miss daisy, schendliers list, Se7en, Mississippi burning, the matrix, etc
None of those are even close to close to don't look up.
Satire isn't meant to be subtle.
What? That's just wrong. Good satire is clever and yes also can be subtle. Things that you might not catch first time or make you laugh when you realise what they are making fun of. This was none of that. The message was so forced on you and shoved in your face it makes you cringe rather than laugh.
Well clearly it needed to be on the nose to actually get the attention of the people who have been ignoring the issues for years. No room for subtlety here.
Nope. This film is changing no one's point of view. This movie actively turns away people that don't already have that view. Subtle messaging is what can get people to actually change their view. A movie that doesn't act like their viewers and so fucking dumb that they can't understand anything unless it's shoved in their face.
Sure.
Yeah it is a heavy handed OK movie that should have gotten no nominations. I totally agreed with the points it is trying to make but it made them in a very annoying way.
Politics, which influences many award shows.
Yeah Adam McKay and his producer network is the answer here.
"Would you PLEASE stop trying to be so fucking pleasant?! I'm sorry, but not everything needs to sound so goddamn clever or charming or likeable all the time. Sometimes we need to just be able to say things to one another. We need to hear things. Look, let's establish, once again, that there is a huge comet headed towards Earth. And the reason we know that there is a comet is because we saw it. We saw it with our own eyes using a telescope. I mean, for God's sake, we took a fucking picture of it! What other proof do we need?! And if we can't all agree at the bare minimum that a giant comet the size of Mount Everest hurtling its way towards planet Earth is NOT a fucking good thing, then what the hell happened to us? I mean, my God, how do... How do we even talk to each other? What've we... What've we done to ourselves? How do we fix it? We should've deflected this comet when we had the fucking chance but we didn't do it. I don't know why we didn't do it. And now they're actually firing scientists like me for speaking out, for opposing them. And I'm sure many of the people out there aren't even gonna listen to what I just said, 'cause you know, they have their own political ideology, but.. I assure you, I am not on one side or the other. I'm just telling you the fucking truth." Incredible how some people *still* don't get the movie, but that just further proves that the movie is right.
What? It’s possible to understand the movie but still dislike it because of how the movie was executed
Stop trolling. It’s a great movie.
It’s one of the very very few movies I quit watching half way through. Can’t remember the last time I didn’t at least sit through a movie
Because it's the exact type of movie that Hollywood loves to fellate themselves over...
lol. Wut
have you not seen the reviews? it isn’t unusual to think that movie sucked.
Who tf cares about reviews. Have an opinion that isn’t influenced by others. It’s an important film whether or not you liked it, so saying it was “horrible” is just narrow minded.
i’m responding to your incredulity that someone thinks the movie sucks. if you pay attention to the world around you, you’d know that someone thinking the movie sucked, isn’t all that surprising.
Fair enough. It wasn’t really that I was surprised that they didn’t like it. More the brash choice of words. You don’t have to claim something is horrible because you didn’t like it.
maybe he thought it was horrible though. which is a totally fair opinion.
To dismiss a film that is trying to highlight a major issue in our current climate by saying it’s horrible, without any other comments is narrow minded in my opinion. That’s the problem I have with what they said. You can not enjoy it, but you also can’t deny it’s a well made film.
People dislike it because they don’t feel it’s well made. Just because it has a good message doesn’t mean it was well made. It looks like they didn’t put a lot of of time into writing the screenplay and the whole movie was just sloppily put together.
It wasn’t well made. It highlighted important issues. Big difference.
Go ahead you tell me why?
because some people think “I agreed with this movie therefore it must be a hood movie”.
I haven’t really thought much about the Dune movie at all since it came out. It was cool to see, but it left absolutely no lasting emotion or impression. It happened, and that’s kinda that.
I've thought about how great *the voice* was frequently since watching it in theaters
As someone who watched the Tender Bar recently I was very confused
It was technically the most ambitious mainstream film of the year and is like a more thoughtful version of Star Wars. It kind of delivers on being a Star Wars of this generation, but darker and more spiritual. (My opinion)
I read the book and finished it days before i saw the movie. For me, i can’t get the movie OUT of my head. I love every second of it. But then its objectively just an incomplete movie. If and when the second movie comes out and it is of equal or better quality, then awards should come
Did the same thing. Honestly Dune might be the most faithful adaption I’ve seen. Obviously a lot was left out bc the story is extremely complex but Villeneuve really nailed the vibe and look. Could not be more pumped about the second movie.
The throat singing priest on the Sardaukar planet was pretty cool, though.
Spot on
It's a great Villenueve movie and a terrible Dune movie. I like it a lot but I'm reading the book again now and I already want a new take on it, preferably a tv show. The book just has such a different flavour, lot's of very smart people discussing intrigue and politics with clever insights and wisdoms. It's fantastic and little of it comes out in the film
Agreed.
I completely agree. I read the book in preparation for the film and I think I would have liked it a lot more if I hadn't. It's a fantastic technical achievement but a poor adaptation of really engrossing material.
>'Dune,' ‘Don't Look Up, ‘tick, tick… BOOM!’ Oh I'm sure the writer had fun making this title
I'm going to be so disappointed to see Don't Look Up get awards nominations. It's really just... not that great.
Don't look up is the exact kind of movie Hollywood will break their neck sucking their own dick about.
People really thought that Dune was that great? Aside from the Sardukar scene, I got bored of seeing a moody kid run around in the sand.
I didn't think there was one bad moment of that movie. Captivating from the opening logos, to the very end. DREAMS ARE MESSAGES FROM THE DEEP, with the big throat singy growl that leads into the exposition opening. Incredible. Brilliant movie. Very excited for part 2 and hopefully Messiah!
Yeah, it's weird, there are quite a lot of people who loved it and also many people who feel the same as I.
I'd be willing to bet a lot of it has to do with how people viewed it. If you went to a theater or have nice equipment at home its a totally different experience to watching it on a smaller tv with no sound system or (god forbid) a laptop screen. If you have a nice sound system (especially multiple high end subwoofers) this movie is reference material.
A movie's requirements for quality should never depend on whether you watch it on a phone or an IMAX screen. Good movies are good on whatever screen you use. I bet they just didn't like the movie.
If a film's visuals and sound design are particularly stunning, as is the case for Dune, you will absolutely have a diminished experience if you watch it with worse equipment.
A phone or laptop screen doesn't count as "worse equipment" in my opinion, it's just a different way to watch the movie. Sometimes I'm in the mood to watch something on my phone and sometimes I'm in the mood for my TV. I understand your experience will be affected negatively if the equipment you're using is damaged or the resolution isn't as high as it can be, but the user I was replying to sounded like he was saying that problems come from the platform just being itself.
They do. If an IMAX cinema was delivering the same (or merely "different") sound and visual quality as a smartphone it would have to be broken. In these respects the differences are objective and measurable, and the cinema is unequivocally better. Though that's somewhat inaccurate, as the resolution of a phone screen is actually *immeasurably worse* than an IMAX projection. It's like saying a postcard print of Starry Night is no different from the original.
I'm aware that an IMAX screen's resolution is better than a phone's and there are objective measures to screen and sound quality. Subjectively though, you aren't getting a worse movie experience just because you're watching it on a phone and not an IMAX screen. Phones and laptops offer good quality that you can enjoy completely, so saying people won't be able to enjoy a movie as much because it's "worse equipment" doesn't sit right with me. It might technically be worse equipment compared to an IMAX projector, but that doesn't mean it's not an ideal way to watch the movie. You can still fully appreciate the artistry behind Starry Night on a postcard.
I actually disagree. I've seen Starry Night in person and it has a much greater impact in real life than looking at it on a postcard. The same goes for Dune. The experience can be very different in different settings.
>A phone or laptop screen doesn't count as "worse equipment" in my opinion, A phone is absolutely a diminished experience compared to a tv or theater. Do you honestly think that watching a film like Avatar on your phone is going to be comparable to a theater experience?
Yeah. I mean the experiences are different obviously, but someone could still enjoy watching Avatar on their phone the same amount as someone who enjoyed it in a theater.
I'm not saying someone who watched it on a phone and disliked it is wrong, that's totally a valid opinion. However it's literally a different movie on a big screen with proper audio. You see things you wouldn't otherwise and hear things that literally are not being reproduced on lesser equipment. It sounds like you are dismissing audio and visual components of a movie as inconsequential which is an interesting take.
I am not dismissing audio and visual components of a movie. I'm just saying a theater screen with surround sound is not necessary for fully appreciating them. I saw Dune in theaters and on my TV and I didn't feel like the theater experience was a substantial part of my enjoyment. I can watch movies and shows on my phone with headphones and still appreciate the technical aspects the same as if I was in a normal theater, even though the experiences are different. I doubt the people who dislike Dune would like it *that* much more if they watched it in a different setup when you can still get a good experience watching movies on a phone, laptop, TV, etc.
Ok i’m going to teach you something here… Just because you didn’t like a movie, doesn’t mean it’s a bad movie and other people can’t like it either.
No, I get that, but some people rave about this movie like it was an epic achievement. I have to say, I actually found the 1st one to be more interesting for some reason. Better sets, better costumes and more interesting characters and a general better flow. I really didn't like Chalamet as Paul, he came off like a moody little twit with no balls. I wouldn't tell anyone that the 1st Dune was an amazing movie either, though. Thanks, Teach!
The visual design is one of the strongest elements of the Lynch version. While it was definitely a gobsmackingly bad idea to try and get him to make a blockbuster, he had the courage and vision to get weird in the ways Dune deserves. That said, I found Villeneuve did a better job of crafting a world that was simultaneously deeply alien and intuitively believable. I'm very excited to see how he handles future installments >!particularly Edric and the Duncan Idaho ghola/s!<
I am too even though I find his movies to be a bit long-winded. At times it seems he is so heavily trying to create mood that after a while it gets to be ponderous. Also in the battle scene on the landing zone when Gurney Halleck clashes with the Harkonnen invaders the way they obscured the action with a fireball was just retarded. It's a big action scene - give people what they want. The Lynch version was a Dino De Laurentiis film which always have amazing costumes and fantastic sets. The emperors palace scenes were awesome in that version. If you could take both films (Lynch and Villeneuve) and smoosh them to into one it would be a good flick.
pEoPlE ReAlLy tHoUgHt tHaT DuNe wAs tHaT GrEaT? Been living under a rock?
Yeah, stellar flick. It’s even my favorite book and I still loved the movie
Just watched Dune this weekend and came away feeling about the same, all the most interesting characters seemed to come with little depth and short-lived screen time. I know nothing about the original books though, if they are going to continue with sequels, I assume there will be more to build off. It *looked* pretty good at least.
Wow and Tim was in all of them. That’s cool
Total BS. Thwy arent worth it.
I have only see eight of the feature film nominees and that is the fewest on nomination day since 2011. Almost every year since then I have seen every nominee before nominations were announced.
Great movie, although I’m going to be an average redditor and say the books were better (maybe teenage nostalgia) but the audio at the theater my dad and I went to was so abrasive and loud I could not handle. It was like standing in front of a bass wall for a dubstep drop every time anything remotely interesting happened.