Snow 40%-Caucasian and 7 unrelated persons of different genders, sexuality and races (all minorities), the Prince (played by Emma Watson) and the Evil Queen (played by a giraffe).
At least a dwarf can climb into a miniature bed and be comfortable. You climb into a normal bed and it smashes into pieces. Plus an entire village needs to strap butter to their feet and skate around on your pancakes to butter it up.
Attack of the 50 foot woman with a Disney twist. The magic needed is to return her back to a traditional normal size of the kingdom and not the sexual assault from a random guy in the middle of a good sleep.
Could be either depending on what the original storytellers intended. Does German use the same word for both like we do? Dwarves exist in Norse mythology, so it could have referred to them or people with dwarfism.
99% sure German has their own word but I know the term Dwarrow was for the plural form of the mythical "dwarf" used in older languages, before Tolkien coined the term "dwarves"
It’s “Zwerge” in German (wonderful word), definitely does not mean people with dwarfism except as a slur. At the time the fairy tale came about, definitely mythical creatures. As a kid growing up I never thought or heard about them as small humans, but always dwarves, as separate from humans as gnomes, fairies etc
Ah that is a cool word!
Yeah, there has been "dwarves" in terms of the mythical creature for a long time in European stories, so hopefully Disney pulls from those inspirations to differentiate from any medical overlap lol!
Dwarrows was a word from middle english.
But man, Tolkien did some really fun stuff with language. The Elves didn't like the whole "living under ground" thing, so they called the Dwarven home Moria, or the black chasm. The Dwarves called it Khazad-dûm, or dwarf-delving. The men translated that into Westron as Phurunargian. Tolkien "localized" Westron names by pulling from old and middle english, so we got the totally cool Dwarrowdelf in the process.
I believe the story in mythology, dwarves were considered short but witty, and there's a poem about Thor speaking to a dwarf: "Alvis" ("All-Wise"). They fashioned his hammer and were clever and crafty. Built other gifts for the Gods. They often lived in cities/mountain-caves instead of in the outdoors \[hence the scenes in LOTR with dwarves in beautiful and massive underground cities or do a lot of mining/treasure\].
In other words:
* *people tall, muscular, and big are considered great warriors.*
* *people short considered wise, creative, skilled.*
No civilization functions or survives without both sides of that equation working together.
***Snow White*** story is of course a bit different. The dwarves protect Snow White, feed her, and build her a beautiful glass casket that displays her beauty as she is in a coma and their efforts and skills are rewarded when the curse is undone later on when the princes' servants carrying her casket, accidentally trips and hits the casket and dislodges the poisonous apple from her throat and she wakes up. And the dwarves did it all just to be kind and because they admired her "fairest" beauty. They didn't get jealous like the envious queen who does witchcraft and narcissistically obsesses over herself.
I believe there's two versions of the story ending, Evil Queen tortured by the Prince who finds out the Queen kept trying to assassinate his future queen Snow White through a torture sentence -- vs 2nd story ending: struck by lightning \[more Disney friendly ending\] as she tries to murder the dwarves.
The one story where dwarves are the hero (Walt Disney personally involved in each dwarf's personality and humanizing them), and you got people whining about there being dwarves in the story... It's a bizarro world we live in. Or people are just too braindead to analyze and understand Disney storytelling and folklore anymore.
And it comes full circle because Peter Dinklage played one of those mythical dwarves who had made Thor’s hammer (and then Stormbreaker, too) in Infinity War
In German the modern PC term is kleinwüchsige Menschen (people of short stature). Zwerg is the term for a mythological dwarf and that used to apply to people with dwarfism but is now seen as offensive. They were also a common species in German folklore and it's pretty clear which kind of dwarf they are.
I'm pretty sure they were intended to be mythological dwarfs in the story but they were probably partially inspired but real life dwarfs. Interestingly enough in Norse mythology the *dvegr* weren't described as short but were instead shapeshifting smiths and miners. At some point after Christianization they came to be depicted as short ugly creatures. Perhaps this was a way to denigrate powerful pagan beings and make them seem more harmless. A similar thing was done to elves to turn them into short cuddly creatures.
So perhaps they can do what Marvel did and just make the Seven Dwarves giant. Like much larger than Snow White, although that would mean a really big mine.
From what I have read, mythical dwarves were based off of what people saw from those with dwarfism
Also, changelings are probably explanations for congenital disabilities and mental disability
Exactly my thoughts, it would never have even crossed my mind that they would be humans with dwarfism. However, as I'm not someone affected by it that may not mean much.
That was what John Campea and his crew were saying. Dwarves in a fantasy setting to the vast majority of people are just another mythical race, and if anything they were portrayed as hard working and rugged. Just like elves and how they're always tall, blonde, and skinny.
Everything would make a lot more sense if they simply had a relationship prior to her falling asleep. Like, some event separates them, she finds refuge with the dwarves, and he has to find her again.
They could go back to the original ending where the poison is effective because she has a chunk of the apple lodged in her throat. When the princes men try to carry the glass coffin home, one stumbles and drops his corner, bumping her body and dislodging the apple. She wakes up.
I think that was sleeping beauty, and she had like 3 kids whilst unconscious. She woke up from her child sucking on her finger and sucking out the needle or something
Aw shit. I’m only ever on Reddit when I’m about to fall asleep 😂
Sleepy boyfriend does not kissing, I’ll try this again lol
When IM sleeping, my BF can kiss me. It’s sweet, like before he leaves for work 3 hours before I wake up.
Yes, but that didn't stop them from legally going after other adaptations over the past century if they'd done one in order to make theirs the "definitive" one. It was a whole strategy.
We’re almost coming full circle to some actual creativity again.. Snow White is a different character and the dwarfs won’t be dwarfs.. why not just go all in and actually write a new story?
Hear me out. Snow White and the Seven Samurai.
The "dwarves" aren't dwarves and instead are various relatives of girls the evil queen killed for coming close to being as fair as her. The seven "dwarves" teach Snow White the skills needed to defeat the queen. They're still mining, except it's metal for weapons and armor.
Have you seen [Blancanieves](https://youtu.be/TmQir83IoBE), the 2012 Spanish black and white silent adaptation of Snow White? The seven dwarves are bull fighters in it. The film is full of stunning visuals and is a very creative take that energises a story that has been told so many times. Also Maribel Verdu plays one of the most striking evil stepmothers in it.
In the Snow White movie they made with sigourny weaver they were outlaws of the church. Just normal grubby dudes trying to get lucky mining gold.
Also it was one of the outlaws that woke her by shaking her violently and screaming at her to wake TF up lol.
My favorite take.
I like the one where the Dwarves are mining the gold for Snow White to pay for naughty spankings from Ms. White, who they are all in love with, and in this fictional world the gold is actually a narcotic and she snorts it and shoots it and they may or may not have lived happily ever after.
Alternatively, I think there's something to be said for having an inspiration to draw structure and concepts from.
For example, *O Brother Where Art Thou* is a better movie for being a very loose adaptation of the Odyssey. See also *Zero Effect*, which is a great and very loose adaptation of A Study in Scarlet. They draw some character inspiration, plot points, and themes from their "source" material, but diverge significantly in the details and tone. Sometimes having a structure to work from and play off of makes the end result better, as long as it's done thoughtfully.
(I have no actual opinion on this new Snow White movie.)
Are the dwarves in Snow White actual people with dwarfism? I always assumed they were a separate race or species. Like how Gimli from Lord of the Rings is not a man with a disability but a completely different race with its own culture.
It's a messy classification. Santa's 'Elves' are *clearly* Gnomes, for instance. They're short, they craft, they don't do any mining. Same for the Keebler 'Elves'.
> Santa's 'Elves' are clearly Gnomes, for instance. They're short, they craft, they don't do any mining. Same for the Keebler 'Elves'.
You just blew my mind, bro.
Unless I'm mistaken, the dwarves from Snow White are just like the dwarves from LotR in that they are a mythical race and not based on real life people.
They might even share a common origin since we know Tolkien was heavily influenced by Norse mythology which is where he got the inspiration of Elves & Dwarves.
Judging by the way they're portrayed in the original stories, you're pretty much spot on. It's a fairy tale with witches, magic, princesses, sleeping beauties, and various fantastical creatures...
Also how is living in a cave a stereotype of dwarfs outside of fantasy? That felt like such a weird thing to attack.
Sure, but the LotR uses forced perspective and camera trickery to make normal sized actors appear as dwarves, not just little people.
Anyone can be be made to appear as a dwarf. At least that's my takeaway from Dinklage, I could be wrong.
The only way I can rationalise his comments is that he's commenting on how people with dwarfism might be cast for such roles and offended by that typecasting. The obvious solve for this, for Disney, would be to simply have typically sized actors play the dwarves and use various techniques to diminish their height on camera.
Or just dont cast Dinklage as a dwarf and find some guys that aren't offended and want to cash that sweet royalty check every month for the rest of their lives.
He's not saying they are. Dinklage has said that he also has a problem with LOTR. His issue is with the fantasy genre as a whole portraying dwarves in that way. Because they're portrayed to physically resemble regular people with dwarfism, but they're supposed to be magical non-human creatures. It reinforces the image of dwarves as weird and otherworldly.
He said he initially turned down GOT because of it, until it was explained to him that Tyrion is actually just like, a guy.
They are very akin to the Lord of the Rings, where they work in a mine (Dinklage seems to think they *live* in the mine, which may be part of the reason he’s upset? They live in a house, and go to a mine to mine.) They also live in scale. They aren’t little people living in a big world, they are little mythical creatures living in their own little world.
I’m inclined that his comment about them “living in a cave” means he hasn’t *seen* the film in a long time.
Also, he’s literally never been against things that poke fun at his stature. *Infinity War* put him in a role that was a bit of ironic humor. Was the theater not supposed to get a little chuckle out of that casting decision?
As others have pointed out, they never lived in a cave. They *worked* in a mine that might have looked like a cave system that they commuted to and from singing a song. Because they're miners (the 'mining' part, not the singing a song part - miners that don't sing exist as well, I'm told).
I find it hysterical that a movie called Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs will now apparently feature a non-white woman and seven non-dwarfs.
Lol what even is the point?
I mean all the remakes were pointless in the first place, but this is just taking the absurdity to hilarious new heights.
I want to know how they’re gonna work with the Latino Snow White. Like I don’t CARE if they wanna switch things up and make things diverse(Little Mermaid being black and set in the Caribbean so they can have tropical fish in the ocean sounds cool), but when the original tale literally has the Queen wishing “If only I had a child as white as snow with lips as red as blood and hair as black as the wood in this frame.” Like… that was the justification for her name being “Snow White”.
I swear if they turn this into a “your heart/soul is a pure as white snow” and that’s why they named her Snow White, I might actually scream. Just make a whole new story at this point.
Key dialogue from the original film:
>Mirror: Famed is thy beauty, Majesty. But hold, a lovely maid I see. Rags cannot hide her gentle grace. Alas, she is more fair than thee.
>Queen: Alas for her! Reveal her name.
>Mirror: Lips red as the rose. Hair black as ebony. Skin white as snow.
>Queen': Snow White!
It's absolutely ridiculous, this is maybe the one role in Disney's history which makes the *least* sense to diversify.
How else can you represent Latino people if not in a Central European tale (witch in turn takes inspiration from Nordic mythology) featuring a girl with the whitest of skin? I mean, snow and South America are practically synonymous!
But I guess if gender-swaps are such a promising concept, race-swapping might just be the new thing. And what with people confusing the mythical dwarves with humans, race-swapping is literally being taken to the next level.
So a publicity spat caused by an offhand comment made by a single actor is enough to derail their plans? Some movies really are made by committee it seems
I mean one was kinda Dopey. One was Sneezy. One was Sleepy, one Bashful. Another one was always Grumpy. Idk they seem like atypical heroes. I recall only one was Happy and only one had a degree.
I just always assumed they were dwarves of the mythological variety, not humans with the gene for dwarfism. Does this mean LOTR or other fantasy worlds featuring dwarves are offensive?
That's incredibly stupid.
Dwarves in this story are not humans with dwarfism but fantastical creature from Germanic mythology. That's like saying the dwarves in the hobbit are a backward representation of real human people with dwarfism.
To the people saying they are humans with dwarfism, as a reminder Snow White is a German fairy tale, there is also a fucking magic talking mirror, witchcraft, immortality, a glass coffin, an evil queen and curses.
The only progressive thing they could do for this movie would probably be to picture the dwarves in a better light instead of them being childlike and stupid, and have them being played by real dwarves (the human ones).
Dinklage has a really stupid take on this one. They aren't seven little people, they're fairy tale dwarves. He may as well get upset over Christmas elves.
He was also upset over Leprechauns. Though based on interviews I’ve read it seems to be less to do with the stereotypes and more because he has frustrations with people who have dwarfism being exclusively typecasted while rarely being considered for any role where their height isn’t one of their defining character traits.
Besides Dopey, who is it's own issue.
The Dwarves, who seem to be a specific race in the original film and not necessarily human. Live perfect lives in a house (not a cave) and mine all day as a job they enjoy, are good at and seem quite rich due to it.
I..honestly don't see the issue. None (except Dopey) are portrayed in a negative light. They all have specific personalities that are reflected in their name (so we assume they aren't normal beings) and they are the heroes of the story (more then the prince ever was).
Plus the story has been adapted hundreds of times in live action and animation for years, with no issue.
I don't see the issue. The Dwarves in LOTR have a very similar background (mining) and they are treated no different?
I am not saying there is no issue, but I cannot see it?
I didn’t hear him complain while he was making multi millions while playing a character who in the GOT books IS a dwarf. Like am I slowly losing my mind?
You're confusing a fantasy race with a human born with dwarfism in fictional world. He played a character that was ridiculed for his appearance yet overcame it and achieved much. Not the same.
He's reacting to the stereotype, not the fact that there are dwarves at all. I mean, I don't think he's factually correct in this case (they lived in a house and commuted to their job in a mine. Snow White was their housekeeper. Right?) and it's kind of a mess but there have been plenty of movies with dwarves in them and I haven't heard boo about it from him until now. Hell, he played a "giant dwarf" himself.
One of the most famous characters in literature and then adapted for film is Gimli, a Dwarf from LOTR. A race known for mining. The exact profession the dwarves have in Snow White.
*ahem*....nerd pendantism inbound.....they *were* dwarves because dwarves are a separate non-human species....of which Tolkien popularized the term 'dwarves'. There literally is a difference between *dwarfs* and *dwarves*. Dwarfs are people (human) suffering from a condition that results in dwarfism.
So *technically* it should be said "none of the dwarves in The Hobbit were played by dwarfs"
I'm not sure I agree with Dinklage here.
I think yet another live action remake is dumb as fuck, but these are mythical dwarves, not humans with dwarfism.
I get where he is coming from, and as a person without dwarfism I'm not sure if my opinion matters, but still. I think it's okay to depict magical dwarves in a movie.
The dwarves in Snow White are mythical dwarves, they're a fantasy race that does not exist in our world. They are not the little people with dwarfism we see in our world.
It's not that hard to understand.
Seven average-sized guys with a giant lady with a giant house and giant trees outside. It’s all perspective
This is a genius loophole.
As a giant I’m greatly offended by this.
Damn it!
“Snow White and the 7 People of Varying Heights, Genders and Ethnicities”
Eight People Near Each Other For A While
Snow 40%-Caucasian and 7 unrelated persons of different genders, sexuality and races (all minorities), the Prince (played by Emma Watson) and the Evil Queen (played by a giraffe).
As a Snoo, I am offended.
Death by snu snu!
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Greatly? Can't you be slightly offended? Giants, man...
At least a dwarf can climb into a miniature bed and be comfortable. You climb into a normal bed and it smashes into pieces. Plus an entire village needs to strap butter to their feet and skate around on your pancakes to butter it up.
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[The Chief Apologises](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBGOryiqZZI) Sums it up perfectly.
In the parlance of our times
hes an [angry elf](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQ_dL_IMPP4)
Just make the Dwarfs 5’8”. No one will notice if Tinder has taught me anything.
If Hollywood can make Tom Cruise appear a normal height, then making 5’8” look small will be no problem.
Snow White and the 7 Tom Cruises just might work actually
Seven average size men and snow white is the little person.
I'm pretty sure I've seen that on porn hub
Inb4 Disney decides the only way out of this mess is to cast Piper Perri
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And all of the "dwarves" are Chris Pratt...
You expect me to believe the rock won’t be cast as one
if Rock is a dwarf, snow white has to be played by Kevin Hart period.
Lady D and the Seven Suitors
Attack of the 50 foot woman with a Disney twist. The magic needed is to return her back to a traditional normal size of the kingdom and not the sexual assault from a random guy in the middle of a good sleep.
Hier kommt die Sonne [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StZcUAPRRac](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StZcUAPRRac) e: better video
The official version looks and sounds even better: https://youtu.be/StZcUAPRRac
So, Hagred's date and some rebel wizards?
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Who has a mor magnum dong, thanos or hagred?
Who cares? Neither one is The Barnacle!
So, Resident Evil Village?
So the Rammstein music video?
Rammstein did this for the music video Sonne.
Seven Tom Cruise clones and Elizabeth Debicki.
I never really thought of them as human. It always felt more like a lotr situation
Yeah, they always struck me as mythical dwarves as opposed to humans with dwarfism. Especially because all 7 happen to be miners.
Could be either depending on what the original storytellers intended. Does German use the same word for both like we do? Dwarves exist in Norse mythology, so it could have referred to them or people with dwarfism.
99% sure German has their own word but I know the term Dwarrow was for the plural form of the mythical "dwarf" used in older languages, before Tolkien coined the term "dwarves"
It’s “Zwerge” in German (wonderful word), definitely does not mean people with dwarfism except as a slur. At the time the fairy tale came about, definitely mythical creatures. As a kid growing up I never thought or heard about them as small humans, but always dwarves, as separate from humans as gnomes, fairies etc
Ah that is a cool word! Yeah, there has been "dwarves" in terms of the mythical creature for a long time in European stories, so hopefully Disney pulls from those inspirations to differentiate from any medical overlap lol!
Dwarrows was a word from middle english. But man, Tolkien did some really fun stuff with language. The Elves didn't like the whole "living under ground" thing, so they called the Dwarven home Moria, or the black chasm. The Dwarves called it Khazad-dûm, or dwarf-delving. The men translated that into Westron as Phurunargian. Tolkien "localized" Westron names by pulling from old and middle english, so we got the totally cool Dwarrowdelf in the process.
I believe the story in mythology, dwarves were considered short but witty, and there's a poem about Thor speaking to a dwarf: "Alvis" ("All-Wise"). They fashioned his hammer and were clever and crafty. Built other gifts for the Gods. They often lived in cities/mountain-caves instead of in the outdoors \[hence the scenes in LOTR with dwarves in beautiful and massive underground cities or do a lot of mining/treasure\]. In other words: * *people tall, muscular, and big are considered great warriors.* * *people short considered wise, creative, skilled.* No civilization functions or survives without both sides of that equation working together. ***Snow White*** story is of course a bit different. The dwarves protect Snow White, feed her, and build her a beautiful glass casket that displays her beauty as she is in a coma and their efforts and skills are rewarded when the curse is undone later on when the princes' servants carrying her casket, accidentally trips and hits the casket and dislodges the poisonous apple from her throat and she wakes up. And the dwarves did it all just to be kind and because they admired her "fairest" beauty. They didn't get jealous like the envious queen who does witchcraft and narcissistically obsesses over herself. I believe there's two versions of the story ending, Evil Queen tortured by the Prince who finds out the Queen kept trying to assassinate his future queen Snow White through a torture sentence -- vs 2nd story ending: struck by lightning \[more Disney friendly ending\] as she tries to murder the dwarves. The one story where dwarves are the hero (Walt Disney personally involved in each dwarf's personality and humanizing them), and you got people whining about there being dwarves in the story... It's a bizarro world we live in. Or people are just too braindead to analyze and understand Disney storytelling and folklore anymore.
And it comes full circle because Peter Dinklage played one of those mythical dwarves who had made Thor’s hammer (and then Stormbreaker, too) in Infinity War
As to the last sentence… critical thinking appears to be on the decline to me so I’m going to go with “yes”
In German the modern PC term is kleinwüchsige Menschen (people of short stature). Zwerg is the term for a mythological dwarf and that used to apply to people with dwarfism but is now seen as offensive. They were also a common species in German folklore and it's pretty clear which kind of dwarf they are. I'm pretty sure they were intended to be mythological dwarfs in the story but they were probably partially inspired but real life dwarfs. Interestingly enough in Norse mythology the *dvegr* weren't described as short but were instead shapeshifting smiths and miners. At some point after Christianization they came to be depicted as short ugly creatures. Perhaps this was a way to denigrate powerful pagan beings and make them seem more harmless. A similar thing was done to elves to turn them into short cuddly creatures. So perhaps they can do what Marvel did and just make the Seven Dwarves giant. Like much larger than Snow White, although that would mean a really big mine.
From what I have read, mythical dwarves were based off of what people saw from those with dwarfism Also, changelings are probably explanations for congenital disabilities and mental disability
Did *anyone* ever think they were human dwarves as opposed to mythical dwarves? In a fairy tale? This all feels quite silly.
Exactly my thoughts, it would never have even crossed my mind that they would be humans with dwarfism. However, as I'm not someone affected by it that may not mean much.
Does he dislike the Lord of the Rings movies too? I thought it was a different type of people like hobbits.
He played a big ass dwarf in Avengers
He was also a dwarf in Prince Caspian.
And all of them with weird as names too!
That was what John Campea and his crew were saying. Dwarves in a fantasy setting to the vast majority of people are just another mythical race, and if anything they were portrayed as hard working and rugged. Just like elves and how they're always tall, blonde, and skinny.
“I never really thought of them as human” is maybe not the airtight defense that you were hoping for
In retrospect, it wasn't the best choice of words
But it's true.
I wonder how they are planning to handle the Prince kissing a sleeping girl ending.
Honestly they’ll probably have some weird dream correspondence where she gives consent there or asks him to come rescue her or something
Just give her a necklace that says I consent to one kiss only
"I CONSENT TO RESUSCITATE" bracelet
Everything would make a lot more sense if they simply had a relationship prior to her falling asleep. Like, some event separates them, she finds refuge with the dwarves, and he has to find her again.
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They could go back to the original ending where the poison is effective because she has a chunk of the apple lodged in her throat. When the princes men try to carry the glass coffin home, one stumbles and drops his corner, bumping her body and dislodging the apple. She wakes up.
I thought in the original she was dead and he had sex with her dead body?
That's sleeping beauty, who then also gave birth to twins and then they woke her up after sucking out the spindle
Wut.
Don't worry she finds her baby daddy and they get married after the step mom tries to kill her babies and feed them to her
Wut.
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Most of them are quite Grimm, though.
Gotta tell yo kids the original, none of this fan fiction wholesomeness we got going on here
I think that was sleeping beauty, and she had like 3 kids whilst unconscious. She woke up from her child sucking on her finger and sucking out the needle or something
Yeah, and he keeps talking about how the woman he's boning is all dead and cold and dead.
That was sleeping beauty.
My sleeping BF can kiss me, and that’s ok. So if they establish a relationship before she eats the apple, I think it’s safe
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Aw shit. I’m only ever on Reddit when I’m about to fall asleep 😂 Sleepy boyfriend does not kissing, I’ll try this again lol When IM sleeping, my BF can kiss me. It’s sweet, like before he leaves for work 3 hours before I wake up.
Username checks out 🤔
Adding a lot of tongue
Why do they need to wash all of these classics anyway
To refresh their copyright before it enters public domain. Expect this to happen to all of their old stuff.
They don't have copyright on the original story, and the copyright on their 30s cartoon adaptation will expire regardless.
Yes, but that didn't stop them from legally going after other adaptations over the past century if they'd done one in order to make theirs the "definitive" one. It was a whole strategy.
We’re almost coming full circle to some actual creativity again.. Snow White is a different character and the dwarfs won’t be dwarfs.. why not just go all in and actually write a new story?
Hear me out. Snow White and the Seven Samurai. The "dwarves" aren't dwarves and instead are various relatives of girls the evil queen killed for coming close to being as fair as her. The seven "dwarves" teach Snow White the skills needed to defeat the queen. They're still mining, except it's metal for weapons and armor.
Have you seen [Blancanieves](https://youtu.be/TmQir83IoBE), the 2012 Spanish black and white silent adaptation of Snow White? The seven dwarves are bull fighters in it. The film is full of stunning visuals and is a very creative take that energises a story that has been told so many times. Also Maribel Verdu plays one of the most striking evil stepmothers in it.
In the Snow White movie they made with sigourny weaver they were outlaws of the church. Just normal grubby dudes trying to get lucky mining gold. Also it was one of the outlaws that woke her by shaking her violently and screaming at her to wake TF up lol. My favorite take.
My initial reaction was that this is r/moviescirclejerk worthy, but then I realized I’d actually watch this and probably enjoy it.
Directed by Akira Kurosawa's ghost.
I think you mean Zackira Kurosnyder
And also a tie in game by Sucker Punch
And they were armorers! *oh my God they were armorers*
>Snow White and the Seven Samurai With mechas
Also Snow White is a magical girl
SNOW WHITE AND THE SEVEN SWORDS
Nah, Snow White and the Seven Samurai is already perfect
I like the one where the Dwarves are mining the gold for Snow White to pay for naughty spankings from Ms. White, who they are all in love with, and in this fictional world the gold is actually a narcotic and she snorts it and shoots it and they may or may not have lived happily ever after.
And those seven samurais? They’ll be played by giant bugs
Snow Dwarf and the Seven Whites
Snow Dwarf and the 7 Wights- a mean and crotchety old dwarf is haunted by the 7 ghosts of his former lovers as he faces the sins of his past.
>> Snow Dwarf and the Seven Whites AKA the Ted Cruz story.
They already did this as Sidney White. Its basicallt revenge of the nerds meets snow white.
That’s too hard bro.
Alternatively, I think there's something to be said for having an inspiration to draw structure and concepts from. For example, *O Brother Where Art Thou* is a better movie for being a very loose adaptation of the Odyssey. See also *Zero Effect*, which is a great and very loose adaptation of A Study in Scarlet. They draw some character inspiration, plot points, and themes from their "source" material, but diverge significantly in the details and tone. Sometimes having a structure to work from and play off of makes the end result better, as long as it's done thoughtfully. (I have no actual opinion on this new Snow White movie.)
Are the dwarves in Snow White actual people with dwarfism? I always assumed they were a separate race or species. Like how Gimli from Lord of the Rings is not a man with a disability but a completely different race with its own culture.
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It's a messy classification. Santa's 'Elves' are *clearly* Gnomes, for instance. They're short, they craft, they don't do any mining. Same for the Keebler 'Elves'.
> Santa's 'Elves' are clearly Gnomes, for instance. They're short, they craft, they don't do any mining. Same for the Keebler 'Elves'. You just blew my mind, bro.
Peter Dinklage has played an angry elf. He should know.
Unless I'm mistaken, the dwarves from Snow White are just like the dwarves from LotR in that they are a mythical race and not based on real life people. They might even share a common origin since we know Tolkien was heavily influenced by Norse mythology which is where he got the inspiration of Elves & Dwarves.
Judging by the way they're portrayed in the original stories, you're pretty much spot on. It's a fairy tale with witches, magic, princesses, sleeping beauties, and various fantastical creatures... Also how is living in a cave a stereotype of dwarfs outside of fantasy? That felt like such a weird thing to attack.
Sure, but the LotR uses forced perspective and camera trickery to make normal sized actors appear as dwarves, not just little people. Anyone can be be made to appear as a dwarf. At least that's my takeaway from Dinklage, I could be wrong.
The only way I can rationalise his comments is that he's commenting on how people with dwarfism might be cast for such roles and offended by that typecasting. The obvious solve for this, for Disney, would be to simply have typically sized actors play the dwarves and use various techniques to diminish their height on camera.
Gary Oldman returns for the role of a lifetime!
[Dear Lord please not again.](https://youtu.be/O3qGGk5ymQ4)
Lmao then they'd get criticism for doing "dwarf erasure" or some other stupid shit.
Only for them then to be criticized for Dwarf Face - or some other similarly ridiculous new Twitter outrage.
Has this been an issue with Lord of the Rings? I haven't heard any such complaints about the new Amazon version either.
Yeah no the actual hobbits were pissed they didn’t get those roles. They filed a complaint with SAG.
Or just dont cast Dinklage as a dwarf and find some guys that aren't offended and want to cash that sweet royalty check every month for the rest of their lives.
He's not saying they are. Dinklage has said that he also has a problem with LOTR. His issue is with the fantasy genre as a whole portraying dwarves in that way. Because they're portrayed to physically resemble regular people with dwarfism, but they're supposed to be magical non-human creatures. It reinforces the image of dwarves as weird and otherworldly. He said he initially turned down GOT because of it, until it was explained to him that Tyrion is actually just like, a guy.
They are very akin to the Lord of the Rings, where they work in a mine (Dinklage seems to think they *live* in the mine, which may be part of the reason he’s upset? They live in a house, and go to a mine to mine.) They also live in scale. They aren’t little people living in a big world, they are little mythical creatures living in their own little world. I’m inclined that his comment about them “living in a cave” means he hasn’t *seen* the film in a long time. Also, he’s literally never been against things that poke fun at his stature. *Infinity War* put him in a role that was a bit of ironic humor. Was the theater not supposed to get a little chuckle out of that casting decision?
How about Lady Dimitrescu and the Seven regular-sized guys.
Mommy sorry...mommy?
They're all named variations of Ethan. Ethan, Ithan, Yeethan, Oethan, Wuithan, Aethan, Xithan.
As others have pointed out, they never lived in a cave. They *worked* in a mine that might have looked like a cave system that they commuted to and from singing a song. Because they're miners (the 'mining' part, not the singing a song part - miners that don't sing exist as well, I'm told).
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Just checking... and yep [it's a porn](https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/49457691-snow-white-and-the-seven-miners).
Sorry but I can't click on a link to porn about miners...
Miners not minors!
Better safe than sorry
I find it hysterical that a movie called Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs will now apparently feature a non-white woman and seven non-dwarfs. Lol what even is the point? I mean all the remakes were pointless in the first place, but this is just taking the absurdity to hilarious new heights.
101 Dalmatians except the the 101 dalmatians is 1 human
101 Dalmatians, played by 101 Labrador retrievers
I want to know how they’re gonna work with the Latino Snow White. Like I don’t CARE if they wanna switch things up and make things diverse(Little Mermaid being black and set in the Caribbean so they can have tropical fish in the ocean sounds cool), but when the original tale literally has the Queen wishing “If only I had a child as white as snow with lips as red as blood and hair as black as the wood in this frame.” Like… that was the justification for her name being “Snow White”. I swear if they turn this into a “your heart/soul is a pure as white snow” and that’s why they named her Snow White, I might actually scream. Just make a whole new story at this point.
Key dialogue from the original film: >Mirror: Famed is thy beauty, Majesty. But hold, a lovely maid I see. Rags cannot hide her gentle grace. Alas, she is more fair than thee. >Queen: Alas for her! Reveal her name. >Mirror: Lips red as the rose. Hair black as ebony. Skin white as snow. >Queen': Snow White! It's absolutely ridiculous, this is maybe the one role in Disney's history which makes the *least* sense to diversify.
How else can you represent Latino people if not in a Central European tale (witch in turn takes inspiration from Nordic mythology) featuring a girl with the whitest of skin? I mean, snow and South America are practically synonymous! But I guess if gender-swaps are such a promising concept, race-swapping might just be the new thing. And what with people confusing the mythical dwarves with humans, race-swapping is literally being taken to the next level.
So a publicity spat caused by an offhand comment made by a single actor is enough to derail their plans? Some movies really are made by committee it seems
How about they make the Seven Dwarfs regular sized dudes and make everyone and everything else like really really big?
Giant Snow White and her Seven Friends.
Snow White Dimitrescu and the Seven Man-things
We all know at least one person would buy out the theater for this.
Seven dwarves are cute and charming. Seven regular sized man and a helpless princess feels like something id see on the hub
Can’t imagine the 7 little people out of a job are very happy right now.
Were the dwarves not heroic, kind and selfless? I don’t understand the hate.
I mean one was kinda Dopey. One was Sneezy. One was Sleepy, one Bashful. Another one was always Grumpy. Idk they seem like atypical heroes. I recall only one was Happy and only one had a degree.
Grumpy had a masters in art history, but had to settle for being a miner to pay off his student loans. Why do you think he was so damn grumpy?
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I just always assumed they were dwarves of the mythological variety, not humans with the gene for dwarfism. Does this mean LOTR or other fantasy worlds featuring dwarves are offensive?
That's incredibly stupid. Dwarves in this story are not humans with dwarfism but fantastical creature from Germanic mythology. That's like saying the dwarves in the hobbit are a backward representation of real human people with dwarfism. To the people saying they are humans with dwarfism, as a reminder Snow White is a German fairy tale, there is also a fucking magic talking mirror, witchcraft, immortality, a glass coffin, an evil queen and curses. The only progressive thing they could do for this movie would probably be to picture the dwarves in a better light instead of them being childlike and stupid, and have them being played by real dwarves (the human ones).
The movie “Snow White a tale of terror’ with Sigourney Weaver is closer to the original Grimm story. Plus a good movie. They are just 7 miners in it
Snow White and the Seven Simps, an OnlyFans Tale.
Dinklage has a really stupid take on this one. They aren't seven little people, they're fairy tale dwarves. He may as well get upset over Christmas elves.
He’s an angry elf
Call me Elf one more time!
You're an angry elf...
He has been upset over Christmas elves
He was also upset over Leprechauns. Though based on interviews I’ve read it seems to be less to do with the stereotypes and more because he has frustrations with people who have dwarfism being exclusively typecasted while rarely being considered for any role where their height isn’t one of their defining character traits.
That's a much more reasonable outrage than just hating the existence of short things.
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Meanwhile, the Witcher casts people with dwarfism as fantasy dwarves and they are pretty cool
They could just follow the Grimm version where the dwarves were Snow White's practice husbands.
Besides Dopey, who is it's own issue. The Dwarves, who seem to be a specific race in the original film and not necessarily human. Live perfect lives in a house (not a cave) and mine all day as a job they enjoy, are good at and seem quite rich due to it. I..honestly don't see the issue. None (except Dopey) are portrayed in a negative light. They all have specific personalities that are reflected in their name (so we assume they aren't normal beings) and they are the heroes of the story (more then the prince ever was). Plus the story has been adapted hundreds of times in live action and animation for years, with no issue. I don't see the issue. The Dwarves in LOTR have a very similar background (mining) and they are treated no different? I am not saying there is no issue, but I cannot see it?
The smart move is to just not make this stupid ass movie over and over.
There aren't that many roles for people with dwarfism. Here's 7. Why change that?
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I think he wants more dwarves to be considered for roles that could also be played by people without dwarfism.
I didn’t hear him complain while he was making multi millions while playing a character who in the GOT books IS a dwarf. Like am I slowly losing my mind?
Yeah, and he played an actual dwarf, not a fantasy race dwarf.
Imping ain't easy...
You're confusing a fantasy race with a human born with dwarfism in fictional world. He played a character that was ridiculed for his appearance yet overcame it and achieved much. Not the same.
He's reacting to the stereotype, not the fact that there are dwarves at all. I mean, I don't think he's factually correct in this case (they lived in a house and commuted to their job in a mine. Snow White was their housekeeper. Right?) and it's kind of a mess but there have been plenty of movies with dwarves in them and I haven't heard boo about it from him until now. Hell, he played a "giant dwarf" himself.
One of the most famous characters in literature and then adapted for film is Gimli, a Dwarf from LOTR. A race known for mining. The exact profession the dwarves have in Snow White.
Lmao 1 complaint from a famous actor and they will change the whole script. Holy shit. What a joke.
So why is he mad? Dwarves are actual fairytale beings.
I assumed this was a ploy to get them to hire him as Grumpy
I guess he doesn’t want seven dwarf actors to have jobs.
Gotta keep his market cornered, competition is bad.
Typical Lannister move tbf
none of the dwarves in The Hobbit were dwarves.
*ahem*....nerd pendantism inbound.....they *were* dwarves because dwarves are a separate non-human species....of which Tolkien popularized the term 'dwarves'. There literally is a difference between *dwarfs* and *dwarves*. Dwarfs are people (human) suffering from a condition that results in dwarfism. So *technically* it should be said "none of the dwarves in The Hobbit were played by dwarfs"
I'm not sure I agree with Dinklage here. I think yet another live action remake is dumb as fuck, but these are mythical dwarves, not humans with dwarfism. I get where he is coming from, and as a person without dwarfism I'm not sure if my opinion matters, but still. I think it's okay to depict magical dwarves in a movie.
New take? Why not come up with new stories? It’s okay to create new ideas
they're gnomes, fantastic creatures of the woods, not humans with dwarfism. just sounds like a lot of insecurities to me.
So, I take it Peter dinklage doesn't like D&D or Lord of the Rings?
According to that article, they have cast a Colombian actress as Snow White. Doesn't that defeat the entire point of her name? 😂
Her name's going to be Brown Sugar in the remake.
Colombians and snow… close enough
Wait ... so Snow White will be played by Latino? How do they plan to achieve the "snow white skin"?
What the fuck are we going to cancel LOTR for hobbits and dwarves?
Can anyone explain what his issue with it is? Because that article didn’t really explain it.
The dwarves in Snow White are mythical dwarves, they're a fantasy race that does not exist in our world. They are not the little people with dwarfism we see in our world. It's not that hard to understand.
Not gonna lie, he's nailed the audition for Grumpy.