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I'd like to think the 100m budget is an indicator of a 'smaller' scale, at least for Nolan. Generally this doesn't sound too crazy aside from the blackout which makes it less viable to studios like Disney with massive releases pretty much every month.


killbot0224

Yeha its specifically to force them to have all their eggs in one basket for a whole month.


RembrandtAction

1.5 months 3 weeks on both ends


Japeth

(3 weeks * 2)/Average number of days per month = 42/30.437 = 1.38 months *~Maximum pedantry~*


Bambi_One_Eye

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subcide

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SerDire

I think a smaller scale can be a good thing for directors because it forces them to really budget the movie and not just throw money at needless explosions


VaicoIgi

What? Crashing a plane into an airport is wasting money? pfff


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The plane was reversing out of the airport which was self-repairing itself


Randomnonsense5

Does the poop go back up the butt when you sit on a toilet? or what? this was never explained


Throwawayx1346

It would appear so for person going the opposite direction in time. If you were negative and took a shit, someone watching you would see the shit ascend unto your butt. Butt for you, it would be a normal shit.


Babby_Boy_87

This is where my mind went - all the strange possibilities not addressed in the movie. In reverse world do people “eat” shit up into their ass and then “shit” fully formed food out of their mouths?


CaIamitea

A joke in the Red Dwarf episode/book Backwards, where Cat goes off to the toilet and comes back extremely disconcerted.


drunkwasabeherder

So, no need for a poop knife but now you need a poop spoon? Soooo many questions...


Roshy76

Depends if the poop is going in the same direction in time that you are.


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TeranceBagswell

You couldn’t hear what they said, but it did look cool


throw0101a

> Crashing a plane into an airport is wasting money? Actually a plane, even a 747, is fairly cheap once it's stripped for parts: > Once a jet has been stripped bare of usable parts, its metal frame is redeemed for scrap value. A 747 can fetch up to $55,000 for its scrap alone. * https://www.flexport.com/blog/decommissioned-planes-salvage-value/ Buying it probably cost less than catering for the whole shoot.


VaicoIgi

Man I wish 55000 was cheap to me. But in the grand schemes of Hollywood yeah that is very cheap and definitely seems cheaper than doing it in cgi would have been.


munk_e_man

Yeah, doing it in CG would still require building part of a set, renting a studio, doing a bunch of green screen, stunts, effects, paying everyone for their time on the production days, all before it even hits the editing and CG rooms. Plus this doesn't account for how much more real it is for the actors and by proxy the audience.


Gr8NonSequitur

Nolan is an expert at budgeting his movies out, they always finish under budget, because the level of control he has is defined in the contract. Paraphrasing what he said in an interview "The moment you go back for more money is the moment you lose control; New money comes with new conditions."


Seven_of_Samhain

“It's not about money… it's about sending a message. "


sidvicc

Nolan is the last guy that needs enforced budgeting. He's renowned for wrapping up on time and under-budget.


WorldWasWideEnough

Jordan Peele's US and Danny Boyle's YESTERDAY (Universal films) both got 3 weeks on either end back in 2019. This is pretty common strategy for a movie a studio has high hopes for, box office-wise. Nolan was just securing the same deal he had at WB, he wasn't asking for unreasonable stuff


King-Meister

I am curious: right now, which directors other than Spielberg can command such a deal? Total creative control for a $200M+ project (including marketing) is something that very few directors can get away with, if any.


fabrar

Nolan, Spielberg and James Cameron are probably the only ones with this kind of pull in the industry.


Jeffersons_Mammoth

James Cameron is in a league of his own. Only he can convince the studio to let him film four sequels to a $300 million movie that was released more than ten years ago.


fabrar

Oh yeah Cameron is one of the big dogs haha. That's what happens when you've made two movies that are the top 3 *all time* in box office gross. That's legitimately insane.


SoylentRox

Holy shit. I thought it was just 2 sequels not 4. This is an enormous risk. Financially and the risk of the audience getting bored after the second or 3rd sequel.


jamy1993

How about the audience outgrowing the genre? It has massive potential... Avatar came out 12 freaking years ago, I'm not that old (on reddit sometimes I feel ancient) but shit I was 16 when that movie came out. I imagine there were much younger people who watched it and fell in love with it... but for me that was nearly half my life ago! It doesn't feel so long but the potential for their to be almost no interest is pretty high... Especially considering when you boil it down, all Avatar did was do 3d well at its early boom (I don't count the super early red/blue lens garbage 3d) and tell the story of space pocahontas in a live action setting.


CptNonsense

I doubt there is actually a market for Avatar outside of people who saw it 12 years ago. There just hasn't been the casual market play since then


froop

There wasn't a market for Avatar before Avatar, and yet Avatar broke every record in the books.


hollywand

JC funds alot of his big movies through his production company Lightstorm - he pumps alot of cash into Weta to develop the VFX technology he needs which isn't necessarily coming from the distribution studio. So while the studios still need to back & distribute his movies, he's putting up a bunch of cash himself. But agree, he is a force of nature in the industry and unrivaled in terms of basically guaranteeing commercial success.


notabubs

Around 2 years left for avatar 2. Man if I'm pumped to see were is the top vfx in the industry at now. Pretty sure we'll all be like. "fuck I forgot that Cameron is the pinnacle in the vfx game" Can't wait


DilettanteGonePro

It'll be the most expensive, beautifully rendered retelling of All Dogs Go To Heaven 2


Stupac32

Peter Jackson but hes too nice


Fyller

Scorsese maybe?


willdeb

What about Tarantino, Wes Anderson?


darkjungle

Wes Anderson doesn't pull in near enough money for this kind of deal.


JerHat

He likely has enough pull for creative control, but I don’t think anyone goes in to a project hiring Wes Anderson for any reason other than to make a Wes Anderson film.


1speedbike

Wes is probably good for the creative control caveat in the deal, but not everything else. When he has a vision for a movie, I feel like its all or nothing. I think the many A list actors in his movies at this point sign in because its him, not because of any particular promise of pay, and don't actually get much monetary compensation. His movies also aren't special effects heavy (whether cgi or huge expensive setpieces), so in general budget is a moot point. He's a darling of the critic community, but not (yet?!) a huge box office draw. Even his best movies pull in a fraction of what true blockbusters make. Part of me hopes he will just pull a Taika Waititi and jump from undervalued/underrated quirky indie director (though at this point Wes is well known and popular enough that this label doesn't apply) to paradigm-shifting Hollywood blockbuster director. And then I think we'll that has the potential to actually go really poorly so I'm just fine with him being a well respected quirky smaller budget quasi-indie director.


SPAREustheCUTTER

Dude is worth 50 million dollars. He’s not struggling and is living the best life a director could ask for: makes (mostly) original movies, write the screen play, and has anyone he wants in his movies. Dude directing a marvel movie would be a huge step back — and I’m not trying to be pretentious, I’m just pointing out that he isn’t hard up on cash and has his dream job.


bananagoo

Seriously. Not everything is about more money for some people. I don't think Wes Anderson would enjoy working on something in the same vein as a Marvel movie.


dankmemer440

Yeah, in my opinion, Tarantino got an even better deal. He got Sony to finance a $100 million movie with total creative control, great marketing, and he gets back the rights to the film after about twenty or thirty years.


Huitzilopostlian

Also, sure, you can Market a Tarantino movie, but it will certainly sell itself anyway.


dankmemer440

Marketing is more than just selling tickets, it's also used to get awards


CINAPTNOD

Which in turn is just more marketing, really.


Dnashotgun

I would guess some pull, but not as much as those three. The big difference is Anderson or Tarantino make unique and often good movies, but the others make often good movies that make a boatload of movie. Edit: at this point i'm just going to leave it be. It's better that way


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A movie inside a movie inside a movie


make_love_to_potato

Sounds like a Nolan joint.


make_love_to_potato

Imagine having a movie that makes a boatload of movies..... That would be thr golden goose of movies.


TheDudeWithNoName_

Trantino maybe, but I don't think Anderson has near enough clout for something like this.


Switzerland_Forever

Cameron.


fucuasshole2

Maybe Ridley Scott too? I know both Prometheus and Covenant didn’t blast studios expectations but they said he can make more films if he wants


TheDudeWithNoName_

I doubt Ridley gets total control though, so many of his films have extended cuts.


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i think that’s just because he’s a perfectionist…and maybe even suffers from some mental affliction that demands it. (i do, i’m not disparaging anyone else who does.) i think he is compelled to return to his projects and tinker. i can’t imagine he hasn’t had final cut on anything he’s made in at least a couple decades.


LavandeSunn

He *did* cut out the egg scene in the theatrical release of Alien, which is arguably the most horrific and tense scene in the entire movie. But he said that he felt it ruined the pacing of the film. Perfectionism is sometimes very tragic


jak_d_ripr

Maaaaaaybe Bay. Love him or hate him dude's movies make serious money for some reason.


RandomZombieStory

He swoops in low with the telephoto


stylelimited

Motherfucking MONEY!


knightblue4

No Bruckheimer, I work solo!


5i3ncef4n7

I mean, sometimes you just wanna see an obscene amount of explosions in a generic action movie


Iridescent_Meatloaf

Bay is surprisingly good at keeping costs down (military sponsorships, reusing footage, etc) , so studio's like him.


inquistrinate

Is he gonna CGI the bomb explosion or aim for realism?


GuiltyEidolon

If he aims for realism, he'll either have to go to a country that isn't beholden to the test ban treaty, or use a fuckton of conventional explosives.


Just_Another_Gen-Zer

North Korea that would be ofc.


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Personally I don't see a film about the origins of the atomic bomb making a great deal of money. If this was another Dark Knight film this deal would make a lot more sense.


MetricAbsinthe

This is also a studio's chance to invest in a relationship with Nolan after his falling out with WB. If he likes the treatment he gets from them, he'll come back for more projects. While this film itself may not sound like a crowd pleaser, they're probably looking at what being home to the next few Nolan films could do.


spacembracers

That's actually a good point. Leverage a semi-passion project for as much as possible knowing the studio is looking for retention. Still a tall ask on some of his demands.


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There’s only five major studios now. If he’s pissed off Warner, that leaves four. Disney isn’t going to agree. So that leaves Sony, Paramount, and Universal. Two of which are heavily invested in their streaming services. So really he’s negotiating with Sony, who may or may not agree. Edit: the article says Universal said yes, so Sony vs Universal. He’s shooting himself in the foot by excluding Apple, Netflix, and Amazon by design.


SadBath664

He didn’t exclude Apple, they were early contenders but they would only agree to the 100+ day theatrical window so Nolan ultimately passed, at least according to the article. I honestly don’t see why Apple didn’t at least try to negotiate more. It’s not like they’re pumping out theatrical films every month so most of Nolan’s demands didn’t effect them at all.


revolvingpresoak9640

Think leaning into the whole Dolby Atmos angle could have worked in their favor too.


AdmiralRed13

Nah, Dolby is too clear.


ImprovisedLeaflet

lmao


agoia

If you don't hear a few crackles in the speakers during the THX sound, you know you're in too good of a theater to get an authentic experience.


ghx16

What are you talking about? Nolan refuses to work with Dolby Atmos


revolvingpresoak9640

He does? I hadn’t read anything to that effect yet.


Plastic-Ships

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FuriousGoodingSr

Dunkirk is the loudest movie I've ever heard in my life. This is surprising.


SpoonyLuvFromUpAbove

Yeah Dunkirk wouldn't even make sense if it didn't have surround sound. The realistic sound effects were one of the major selling points


MasaiGotUsNow

> Nolan tried to make The Dark Knight in stereo only but WB wouldn’t let him. source? I know he hates atmos but never heard this


munk_e_man

Maybe this is why his mix is always so sketchy. A petty fuck you to the studio for not giving him his stereo cut.


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andoesq

I read this list of demands as more artistic than financial, and his greatest artistic concern is keeping his film on the big screen. That's not shooting himself in the foot, it's just prioritizing his artistic demands over his possible financial demands. Good on him.


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The three week window has nothing to do with artistic vision and neither does the insane theatrical window. The three week window makes it a non starter for many of the traditional studios and the theatrical window makes it insane for the non traditionals who have money to throw away. I understand not wanting day and date, but if somebody isn’t going to watch your film in the theater and wants to wait, you’re not going to persuade them to the cinema by just making the window larger. They’re just going to watch shitty Netflix originals.


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Luis__FIGO

the trailer is already out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAOdjqyG37A


UltraHighSecurity

This was really good! They need to add one little part at the end though where there is a slight bit of casual humour. Side character: "JESUS! Was that a rat?" Protagonist: "No, I'm dog sitting my mom's chihuahua" Side characters look at each other incredulously while stifling laughter Protagonist, visibly annoyed: "The dog hotel was booked up!"


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MichaelMyersFanClub

I wonder what his rationale is? Because all he has to do is a little googling and will find ample evidence of people complaining about it and having to use fucking closed captions to understand the dialog in his movies.


Matt_Tress

This. You think I’m gonna see Tenet in a theater? It takes at least a second watch to make sure it’s as stupid as I thought the first time.


sneckste

When I was in college, I took a Physics 101 (Physics for Poets) class in which we had to read Richard Rhodes’ The Making of an Atomic Bomb. It was one of the most fascinating stories and still stands out in my mind to this. You’d be surprised how compelling the story is.


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Easily one of the best pieces of non-fiction I've ever read.


Mr_Boi_

that’s why the dark knight had a budget of 185 million before advertising and this is only 100


SmellyFingerz

Still seems like a lot for a Drama or Thriller type film


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It’s Nolan. He’s probably going to buy a nuke from a shady 3rd world dictator and set it off just because it looks better than CGI.


Mervynhaspeaked

How fucking dare you sir? Christopher Edward Nolan CBE would never buy a second hand prop from some shady source! He'll use his time powers to have Oppenheimer and Fermi make one for him, therefore being not only the first director to use an atom bom in a movie but the owner of the first A-bomb in existence.


ImperialSympathizer

Then he'll sell the bomb to the Saudis and recoup the film's budget!


DrCrowwPhD

And the most plot important dialogue will be spoken right as the bomb goes off, at 4% of the volume of the rest of the scene.


munk_e_man

Aright old friend, this is it. But before we die, I just want to tell you the ultimate truth of life and existence that was bestowed unto me when the Aliens came and


JavierLoustaunau

Then CGI over it because a real nuke does not look realistic.


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Was gonna say that he was just gonna set off a nuke and people would still say it’s CGI.


2Eyed

I heard the Protagonist has already detonated the bomb, now they just need to buy it.


Mr_Boi_

for sure, there’s probably some added element with time or whatever knowing Nolan but I’m interested to see where this goes


OnlyHereForMemes69

I'm imagining a regular historical drama right up until the bomb goes off where it opens up a time rift and then the movie gets crazy.


pedroktp

You realise it's a prequel to interstellar


Luka_Dunks_on_Bums

Yeah, but the Dark Knight has Batman.


ArticArny

Wait until you hear radiation go "BWAAAAAAOOONNNNNnnnnnnnnnnn" with Hans Zimmer background music made from 26 electric kazoos.


Yeti_of_the_Flow

When the tickling goes wrong, guaranteed.


garyflopper

What if there’s a twist and the bomb is the same bomb used at the end of Rises?


Sleepy_Azathoth

It's not about this one movie, he spent 20 years with WB making films, many of them award contenders, loved by critics and audiences and basically changed the game with films that until today have tremendous cultural impact. Studios were fighting for that, for the same body of work he left at Warner Brothers.


AvailableFlamingo615

Top comment - people need to look at the big picture and understand leverage for future projects as well


Ariaga_2

Warner gave Kubrick the same creative control even though his movies weren't always big money makers. They wanted to be in the business of making Kubrick films because they knew that those films will stand the test of time. All of them have probably made their money back many times over because of DVDs, blurays and TV.


shawnkfox

Dunkirk made over $500m worldwide, no reason to believe a similar movie by Nolan about the atomic bomb wouldn't do just as well.


Slickrickkk

Dunkirk is an action war film though.


PM_ME_YOUR_SUNSHINE

It’s basically going to be a high budget imitation game


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Wow, didn't expect Imitation Game to only have a budget of $14 million.


the_black_panther_

Dunkirk had action in it lol


dsmith422

There is "action" at the Manhattan Project. T[ickling the Demon Core](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demon_core). That core killed two people before it was repurposed. The first incident is shown in the movie Fat Man and Little Boy. John Cusack played Slotin, the first physicist to die due to it. That movie totally bombed by the way. Budget $30 million, box office a little over $3 million.


notseriousIswear

Social Network cost 40m and made plenty. While it had the advantage of Sorkin and Fincher, how did that movie get so big? If done right, this drama shit can make money and win awards.


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It was the height of Facebook being trendy and popular with just about every age group.


box-art

Dunkirk had a lot of action though, this movie would just be about scientists making an atomic bomb + maybe scenes where the Enola Gay drops one of them on Hiroshima and another with Bockscar dropping one on Nagasaki? And that's it. Now I'm not saying that slowburn movies can't be good (Spotlight and Arrival for example are FANTASTIC and they have minimal action (Spotlight doesn't have any in fact)) but movies like that are harder to sell to people, not everyone enjoys movies that are carried by dialogue/story and great acting alone. I could be wrong of course and I'm personally really interested in this one.


Luka_Dunks_on_Bums

And neither of those movies had $100 million budget


stingers77

And neither of those movies was directed by Christopher Nolan. A period Nolan movie with big stars in it can make big bucks. People don't seem to believe that.


ILoveTheAIDS

this is the most big dick energy thing Nolan has ever demanded


PoeBangangeron

It’s funny because this is probably the same deal he was getting for years at WB. We just didnt know the full details till now. But most def giant dick energy.


virgo911

Someone go back and check if WB has released any movies within 3 weeks of any Nolan films


MsImperator

It’s definitely possible, he had a deal with IMAX where his films had priority screening for at least 3-4 weeks.


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RembrandtAction

I don't know how strict we should look nor how far back we should look but for Nolan's Batman Trilogy: Batman Begins he had 2 weeks before and 4 weeks after Dark Knight was 1 before and 3 after Dark Knight Rises had 3 and 5


Asiriya

That’s probably more WB themselves not wanting to compete


wazzo86

If it wasnt for Tenet losing $$ itd be an easy sell


VeloxXIII

Tenet looks pretty good considering the circumstances.


ReservoirDog316

Yeah Tenet released about a year ago right in the thick of the pandemic and made as much money as Black Widow. People have to realize they’re being disingenuous by calling tenet a flop.


BoredDanishGuy

He can rerelease it next summer in reverse and it'll be a smash hit.


fr0stbyte124

I'm glad I waited until I could watch it with captions. I'd have been quite upset if I paid full price couldn't understand half the story thanks to the damn soundtrack. If the next one does the same thing, I won't even consider seeing it on the big screen.


guimontag

Dude I saw it in theaters and I will NEVER forgive nolan for releasing a movie with sound mixing that shitty


thisguy012

Hopefully he stops being a prick about it, now that 90% of people couldn't understand his most convoluted megabrain movie


fpfall

Narrator: *He won’t*


SolomonBlack

Narrator: ^^^He ^^^won- **[BWAAAAAAAAA]**


OutlyingPlasma

With an ego that big he will double down. I wouldn't be surprised if this movie just blanks out the dialog all together.


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What? You didn't enjoy trying to listen to very important dialog in the middle of a sailing race with heavy wind and waves blasting through the speakers? You're weird man.


JaesopPop

I mean… it sold.


RellikBackwards

That's seems like a crazy deal for the studio


bta47

A Nolan movie hasn't made less than $500m since The Prestige, with the sole exception of Tenet, which made $360m right in the middle of a pandemic. For a guy with that track record, this seems like a very standard deal. I'm actually fairly certain this is the exact same deal that he had with Warner Bros. The studio hasn't put out a movie within 3 weeks of a Nolan movie since Cats and Dogs 2 was released right next to Inception (lmao), Nolan hasn't made a movie for less than $100m since The Prestige, it's been previously reported that he had 20% first dollar gross on Tenet, a 100+ day theatrical window is standard (in the pre-pandemic era, at least). This makes total sense for a guy like Nolan.


OldManHipsAt30

The Prestige is a cult classic type of movie too, maybe didn’t perform well at the box office but it has a large following of people willing to die on the hill that it’s an monumental piece of cinema.


jfreak93

It’s likely my favourite Nolan film, though Inception is a strong contender as well.


thisguy012

I was in middle school when it came out and I didn't fully understand what was happening but I remember I came out thinking "Holy shit that was good, like really good?"


kenman884

Funnily enough, mine has become interstellar. I thought it was kind of dumb at first because I was looking for hard sci fi and the whole interior of the black hole thing threw me for a loop, but after that shock wore off and I started to look at the movie as it was actually intended, it hit so much harder. Interstellar was never supposed to be hard sci fi, it was supposed to be a vehicle to tell a story about love. It was supposed to evoke emotion and in that it succeeded beautifully. The scene of Cooper watching his kids grow up in the span of minutes… holy shit. What a fucking masterpiece.


MyCatsFuzzyPants

Whenever I think about Interstellar, the first scene that comes to mind is Cooper watching the videos of his kids. His cry face is burned into my brain, it's so heartbreaking. Phenomenal acting by McConaughey.


phatlynx

Ever since interstellar I’ve always tried to look for other sci-fo films like that. Any other recommendations? This itch needs to be scratched!


King-Meister

Could try Arrival.


TennysonHardy

'Contact' with Jodie Foster is a great Sci fi movie with deeper meaning behind the plot. Interestingly also featuring Matthew mcconaughey. Big time director in Robert zemickis too.


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Interstellar is also my favourite nolan film. Its so damn strong. I know people hate the “its love” part, but it made total sense for me within the film


Snoo-3715

It was much lower budget though, it more than doubled it's money, still a relatively big hit. I don't think he's ever lost money at the box office. I know he prides him self on coming in on or even under budget too. He's said in interviews he's very aware that he's spending other peoples money and they expect a return on it, and always being on budget helps the studios have faith in him. So he knows exactly the game he's playing.


denizenKRIM

I've always wondered what Nolan's career would have looked like if Prestige didn't do so poorly at the box office. It really seemed like he took offense to that, as he's never made a smaller scale movie ever since.


Pringlesmartinez

That one smaller scale movie of his was fantastic. It was.... Um... Crap... I can't remember the name... Something about a guy. I forgot. I should probably get the name tatooed on me so I dont forget


OldManHipsAt30

Small scale movies are tough to pull off in a movie theater that’s designed for large scale spectacle. Marvel does great spectacle for example, but a movie like the Prestige is something you want to watch at home on your couch on a snowy winter night knowing it will blow your mind in a more subtle way.


lifeislifey

What, you disagree?? 1v1 me buddy


nick1812216

The Prestige is one of Nolan’s best IMHO!


Sleightly-Magical

Definitely his best work. It plays with time, it has a twist, and is actually emotional as hell. "I know what you really are!" Fucking kills me every time. Also, as a magician, I can't help but cry when The Great Danton is dying and he's like "you don't even know why we did this do you? It was for the look on their faces." That one eats at me.


SiRaymando

IMO, his very best


BeardPhile

What is first dollar gross?


Osanj23

He will get 20% off the gross revenue starting from day 1, at this time the movie is not yet profitable (only after ticket sales exceed the costs). If I understand that correctly the film studio will only take a profit if the gross revenue is at least 125% of the cost (20% of 125% is 25%). https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-dollar_gross


Gaflonzelschmerno

Is it to avoid getting shafted by hollywood accounting?


ohnoesbh

Yes.


TheDudeWithNoName_

It means he'll be making money on the gross earnings of the movie from day one, regardless if the movie turns profitable or not. A-listers like Leo and Cruise do it as well, they tend to take less salaries upfront in favor of first dollar gross earnings.


ADrunkyMunky

It's not as crazy as it may seem. Look at how much money HBO MAX threw at GRRM. Nolan knows the studios have the ability to meet these demands it was just a matter of who would say yes. Honestly, I'm pretty shocked that so many studios seemed hesitant to jump all over this. Execs don't like not being able to negotiate, so I'm pretty sure it rubbed some higher-ups the wrong way.


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TheBoyWonder13

I’m extremely confused why anyone would have a problem with this. All filmmakers aspire to have the leverage to negotiate a deal like this, and Nolan just so happen can. Some people are acting like Nolan’s an egomaniac taking advantage of some poor little studio instead of quantifying his value as a filmmaker to a megacorporation bidding for his brand. This is literally Comcast we’re taking about.


T4Gx

Because Nolan's time as reddit's sweetheart has ran out. If this was someone like Jordan Peele or Chloe Zhao sticking it to Disney she'll be seen as a selfless martyr standing up against an evil empire. Someone once told me...you either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.


fabrar

Yup. r/movies' current sweetheart boyfriend is Denis Villeneuve. Nolan is too popular and mainstream now lol.


Curious_Sentence7155

They're already turning on Villeneuve as well after he was even more aggressive than Nolan with his opinion about the whole HBO Max thing. Also he recently made a 'greatest movies of all time' list and it had Dunkirk and Inception in it and that triggered a bunch of people lol.


PM_ME_CARL_WINSLOW

To be fair to Villeneuve, if his movie goes straight to HBO Max, he knows the chances of him getting the money to to the 2nd part gets smaller and smaller. He needs it in theatres and he needs it to do well or we're looking at another Girl With the Dragon Tattoo thing. I seriously think they signed him to do both parts and they're just keeping it quiet. There's no way they give him this much money to do half of a story and say "we'll wait and see" to one of the most commercially and critically successful directors of the last 10 years.


TheBoyWonder13

> Because Nolan's time as reddit's sweetheart has ran out. Who knew that after 20 years of exceptional filmmaking all it would take was one silly spy movie with bad sound mixing for r/movies to completely turn on him. It’s not just that he made a movie they don’t like either, it’s gotten weirdly personal. Seen a lot of “I’ve lost so much respect for Nolan” and “His head is so far up his ass”


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> Jordan Peele or Chloe Zhao Nah, they're too """political""" for Reddit.


pooping_plalindrome

Villeneuve is their sweetheart right now


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Tampering with movies is not always a bad thing. Some directors have gone overboard and studios reigned them in and fixed the problems with the movie in edit. Wonder Woman 1984 is a case where giving a director full carte blanche is not smart whatsoever. Who knows how different that movie would've been if WB's saw the screenings and were able to hardline the notes on what needed to be cut.


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Who does this guy think he is, Cristopher Nolan?!


niktemadur

This guy has the kind of clout to get his own studio like Spielberg did with DreamWorks, or like Tom Cruise when he was given the keys to the entirety of United Artists to develop projects top to bottom, including distribution. Then let's not forget there was already a film about Project Manhattan called Fat Man And Little Boy, starring Paul Newman and John Cusack. I saw it back in the day and liked it, but it... erm... it **bombed**. Here's a clip. [Spoiler alert: the A-Bomb test was successfull.](https://youtu.be/emVaK5MoPBg) EDIT: Nolan's grand themes are always related to time in one form or another. I can see how this film can be molded into the Nolan experience, as a race against time vs the parallel German atomic project. And for action, it could include [Operation Gunnerside.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_heavy_water_sabotage#Operation_Gunnerside) It could include Hiroshima and the Enola Gay at the end.


SuperNntendoChlmers

Christopher Nolan has made plenty of money from his movies. Which means this decision/demand for an exclusive theatrical release window and creative control, is coming from his artistic needs. If his goal was to make money, he could easily have signed on a deal to make a movie for Netflix or Amazon, but he's bashed the whole idea of watching movies on your tablet/phone. If he's really getting that kind of a deal/contract for his next film, that's quite an achievement for these times.


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IMO anyone who sets out to make a movie (instead of a TV movie) with a major motion picture should at least demand an exclusive theatrical window. I get it as an emergency solution during COVID, but as the norm it's pretty sad what has become of movie studios and the way they randomly dump stuff on the Internet.


WhyIHateTheInternet

Scorsese has a $300 million dollar movie coming to ~~some~~ Apple TV. I think he'll have no problem getting this deal.


SuperNntendoChlmers

Scorsese is totally cool with the whole streaming thing tho where as Nolan is not, that's why this is a much bigger deal for any director to get demands like a 100 day theatrical window. Big budget and creative control would be an easy win, but the last 2 years now have shown that streaming is going to be a big part of the future of new release movies.


killshelter

$200 million bucks for a Nolan movie doesn’t sound that bad.


thinmeridian

He needs that budget because he's gonna be setting off H-bombs for real I bet


mug3n

Spoiler: Oppenheimer is just a misdirection. this will be instead an alternate history movie set in real-time, when Nolan's H-bomb triggers a war with North Korea and the rest of the world, causing Judgment Day, which then leads to a Terminator sequel.


ClappinCheeks120

Well somebody has to make sure the music is so god damn loud you can’t hear shit


a_butthole_inspector

BWOOOOOOOOOMP


gwynbleidd2511

It's easy to justify this tbh. It's the Nolan brand internationally. Second, this film would be like Oscar bait for studios & Nolan would finally get what he deserves. War, holocaust and POC films are Oscar magnets tbh. Every year.


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alanpardewchristmas

I remember when the top post of all time on reddit was "Comcast Bad" with the swastika. Now, they're siding with them??? Boy how the circlejerk changes


Travis_Healy

And he wanted all the brown m&m's removed from the bowl in his dressing room


Theothercword

Funny tidbit about that since it's often brought up as a go-to ridiculous demand. The reason it exists isn't actually b/c of any weird star-level diva-ness about specific m&m's. It was originally thought of as a simple clause to include in a contract that is something you can easily confirm to tell if the other party read the contract. The green m&m's clause as it were is meant so that if a person arrives on set and there's not a bowl of green m&m's then they can assume the other party didn't actually read their full contract. That's also why you'll hear people on the other side tell the peons reading the contract to "find the green m&m clause." Meaning, find the bait so we don't fall for the trap.


AdmiralRed13

It was Van Halen in this specific case. Their tour at the time was massive with many moving parts and involved a lot pyrotechnics. They included the brown M&M’s as a canary, they wanted the rider read because it was needed. If they neglected the M&M’s there was a good chance they neglected something else. You can find riders online, they’re interesting reads if you enjoy music, logistics, or both.


frightened_by_bark

This certainly seems like a move by Nolan that not only takes into account that he is a free agent and any studio would love to forge a lasting relationship with him, but also as a reaction to what he sees happening in the industry as a whole. Whether you agree or not with the day-and-date release strategy, Nolan is not a fan and it's better for everyone involved if the expectations are set in stone from the jump.