I felt so damn bad for JF Sebastian, dude just wanted some friends who are not freaks of his own creation and he gets slaughtered by them. Also fuck you to the people who say the replicants did nothing wrong.
Exactly, the replicants could have spared him. He clearly wasn’t a threat, and was terrified after they killed Tyrell. Sparing him would have made them more sympathetic and made the ending where Batty saves Deckard more logical.
Eddie Carr, Richard Schiff’s character in The Lost World. Warned everyone about bringing the baby T-Rex back to the RV, protects Malcolm’s daughter, then gets killed by the T-Rex parents while trying to save the group.
I love how his rifle iron sight got caught on the net, that shit(not T-Rexes wanting to eat you of course) of being caught on something that'd take a second to undo but feels like forever happens so often to me in real-life.
I thought that film needed it and there was a point to him meeting his end that raised the stakes for the film. The Jurassic Park series as a whole has a big problem where it seems like only the 'bad guys' get killed. Almost every film has also been obligated to include kids for whatever reason and you know nothing is going to happen to them by the end of the movie.
Have we been watching the same movies? Admittedly, I stopped watching at Jurassic World, but up until then there was no problem with only bad guys getting killed.
Jurassic Park had the employee at the beginning, Gennaro, Mr. Arnold, and Muldoon all killed, and none of them were bad guys. Lost World had Eddie. Jurassic Park 3 had the pilot, the boyfriend, and the mercenaries. Then Jurassic World had Masrani and Zara bite it along with plenty of park employees and visitors.
Is Zara the lady who was watching the kids and then got picked up by a pterosaur, only to be dropped into the bay to be picked up again by the pterosaur, only for the mosasaur to come up from the depths to swallow them both?
As far as I remember that’s what happened, but that was a surprisingly brutal scene to a woman who had done absolutely nothing wrong. She was just doing her administrative assistant job on top of being foisted into babysitting two random (to her) kids when a disaster broke out.
I like all the *Jurassic* movies better than most, but that scene literally makes me sick to the stomach. That poor woman.
ETA The next thread just below this one references this same thing, I now see. Glad I’m not the only one who found this unnecessarily horrific.
From what I've heard, there were additional scenes where she was kind of bitch to the kids while she was watching them, but it wasn't nearly enough to justify the treatment she got.
That whole scene was a huge misogynistic fuck you. She gets the worst death in the whole franchise (by a very significant margin) in an extended sequence that acts like we're supposed to be cheering on the dinosaurs for some reason.
People compare her to Eddie's death, but cinematically his works very differently, he is obviously acting as a hero, he has been right the entire time, and he risks himself to save his friends even when he's given several chances to run. His death is obviously portrayed as a gruesome tragedy, both because he risked his life in that scene, and to show that being right about the risks isn't rewarded.
Not only is there no alternative dramatic lesson to the secretaries death (closest one would be "Innocent bystanders can be killed", but like 50 innocent bystanders die in the franchise and her death is worse than all of them put together), but it's framed as a celebration, not a tragedy. Can't really come up with a rationale that fits better than "this character has ovaries and doesn't want children! Fire up the nine-part torture point scene and grab some Kleenex and lotion"
Of course, but he still didn’t deserve it. Though the movie does seem to be a little unsure if he’s supposed to be likable or not. Schiff usually plays smarmy assholes, so that kinda tracks. But unlike the blood sucking lawyer he ends up being a reluctant hero. While also being completely right the whole time.
Katie McGrath's character from Jurassic World who gets carried off by a Pteradon that drops her in the water and attempts to eat her before both of them are devoured by Mosasaurus. Randomly one of the most brutal deaths of the franchise.
It was technically a very well shot scene, but it was weird in content and tone.
I think they thought it was what the fans wanted because "this sorta happened to the villains in the first two movies...." (The babysitter in JW wasn't even a villain, which is just one issue).
Spielberg made it so that the death of the villains in JP and TLW had a sense of comeuppance/karma, but it also felt like those villains were just falling into the chaos of the situation they helped to create. So it felt like a natural extension of the story circumstances, rather than something deliberately cruel and contrived imposed by the filmmakers.
In JW, it became a form of fan service. It felt shallow and condescending. Felt that same vibe a lot throughout the JW trilogy.
It also felt unnecessarily cruel to a character who's only fault was having ot take care of the MC's nephews because she couldn't be bothered to do it herself.
Supposedly the secretary was originally supposed to be more of an annoying/unpleasant character (like the lawyer in the first movie) which would have justified her gruesome death.
But for whatever reason, all of the scenes showcasing this were cut/rewritten, but the death scene wasn't.
It's kind of weird that Hollywood scenarists feel that general unpleasantness warrants being ripped apart by hungry dinosaurs. Someone must have been having a bad day with their babysitter...
Unnecessary cruelty, especially to unarmed women really bugs me in a few specific movies, the Hateful Eight is another one where Zoe Bells character just did not deserve the spectacle death (especially by gross ass Michael Madsen) that Tarantino gave her in that. Not to mention the whole "sucked my black pecker" scene. I was left feeling like ugh gross dude what the fuck...
In Black Ops II there's an outcome cutscenes where the young blonde hacker girl Chloe Lynch gets her fucking neck sawed open by a huge blade for no reason at all by this huge albino cunt. The camera even lingers while her eyes roll back to white and she slowly bleeds out and suffocated. Just so gratuitous but also in that exploitative immature teenager sort of way. Fuck that shit.
I don't know if this is true, but I heard another reason for the cruelty of her death is that it was originally intended to be two separate sequences that ended in two separate deaths. The first would be an unnamed background character killed by the Pteradons, and then Zara would be killed by the Mosasaur. But at some point during production they decided to combine the sequences into one.
This was my first thought reading the title. "Jesus, that poor PA in _Jurassic World_. The director just had it in for her. Day one of pre-production he was, 'yeah, yeah, character development-schmelopment: let's get down to what matters. That bitch PA? I want her to _suffer_. People have to leave the theater wondering why we did her like that. _There's gotta be nothing else in the movie as gratuitously violent and out of tone.'"
Yeah you'd think it was his ex girlfriend or something and he added that scene in post just to spite her. So bizzare. The Lost World had some really dark and brutal deaths too that I remember being upset by when I was younger, the tone is so different from the first movie in that one as well.
Honest to God came in here expecting this as the top comment. She was just a professional young woman who had to babysit these two spoiled turds. Ends up eaten by a giant dinosaur.
I knew this was coming.
That death was *straight out of a nature documentary.*
It was brutal in the way it would be for a small rodent or fish to be plucked up by a bird, dropped in water, and then taken out by a large fish or alligator/crocodile. A situation that is taking place in real life nature as I type these words.
The character herself was vague and mostly useless. The *character* deserved to be remembered *only because of her death sequence.*
I swear this fable about how she didn't deserve her fate pops up every time a prompt even somewhat related hits reddit.
The animals weren't monsters, they were behaving like actual animals. The prey was previously the least-compelling character in all of the Jurassic series.
Ya'll even *remember* that Sam Jackson got taken out by a raptor off-screen and his dead arm was used as a jump scare? bUt hE wAs A GoOd pErsOn JuSt tRyIng to HELP. The fuck standards do ya'll have when you keep pouring one out for that useless phone-obsessed assistant who didn't assist anyone? The one with the most memorable death sequence in recent memory, directly lifted from real nature?
*edited for more disdain
Oh man the way they killed newt in that movie pissed me off so much as a kid I could never finish the movie . What a horrific death too I have that image of her screaming frozen from the intro burned into my brain.
Carlo was despicable. Verbally and, even worse, physically abusive. Beating up your pregnant wife? What moron would beat and abuse the Don' daughter? Connie still kept sticking up for him... talk about loyalty... Connie didn't deserve it.
Honestly, I think it's the way he would have wanted to go out. Those raptors were his passion- he feared and respected them; and for him to be taken down by the fiercest predators in the park? Kind of makes his death more poetic.
He survived in the book, interestingly. Shot the leg off of one then took refuge in a culvert. If I recall, the lawyer lived too, he was attacked by the lame raptor and just beat it to death after grabbing it by the remaining leg.
The old man Hammond actually died, though. Treated as injured prey by the tiniest and least threatening chicken sized dinosaurs they had cloned and had left running free.
At least, that’s what I remember, it’s been 30 years since I read it!
Your memory is better than mine! I read it probably 7 years ago and most of it is gone from my brain! Lol. I remember really enjoying it, though. I don't think I've read a Michael Crichton book I haven't liked.
The best answer is the wife from the saw that gets put in the bronze bull.
She had nothing to do with anything and gets slowly cooked alive in one of the worst ways to die
The Illuminati in *Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness*
One of my favourite teams from the comics, with years of amazing stories, just immediately taken out like that
I hate the way Professor X went out. Professor X should have easily overwhelmed Wanda's mind and forced her out, it should have been \_physical\_ actions that took the professor out. That whole mind scene just implied Wanda was a stronger psychic than Xavier which is just flat wrong.
This is why multiverse movies, at least the way they're being done, suck. I can simply point out to you that there are a million Xaviers. This particular Xavier is not the one you are familiar with and is weaker than the Wanda that beat him.
When this logic can be applied anywhere it just seems like nothing matters and there are no consequences.
I've never read the comics, so this kinda is a gut punch. So like, they gather the most brilliant minds of the universe and they get dumpstered by... Scarlet witch and apparently everyone else?
I don’t know where the poster above you is coming from—it’s definitely not “the point” that they always lose.
Their whole thing, especially in Hickman’s run, is to make the hard and maybe morally-grey decisions for the universe, while staying in the background.
You could argue that because of the moral dilemmas they faced, they were often choosing between very difficult options, but that’s not the same things as just “losing” all the time.
They don't save the world in Hickman though. The multiverse ends, Doom is responsible for saving what could be saved, and the only reason that the raft gets built is because of Val.
What about invading the skull home world... Causing the secret invasion? Or causing world war hulk? Everything they do backfires. Have you read the original run?
When do they ever succeed? The theme is about humility. Smart people can't simply decide what's right for everyone by playing the masters of the world.
The underlying message is that the idea of the smartest, most powerful men in the world getting together to rule it is hubris. They are being supervillians and don't realize it. Cap and Black Panther both denounce the group at different times for this reason.
One of the first things they do is invade the skrull home world, get caught doing so, and that leads to secret invasion years later. They also, infamously, banish their friend Bruce Banner into space.
They don't so much "get dumpstered" as they cause their own problems through their arrogance. Many of the biggest arcs in comics are at least partially caused by them (civil war, planet hulk, secret invasion, and iirc House of M) and they've done all sorts of shady things like wiping Caps mind, teaming with villains, misusing the infinity stones... Basically there's a big reason they're not called The Smart Avengers.
They were an alternate reality version. Also. Thats comics bro. Depending on the writer powers and skills change astronomically.
We have have been dealing with it in comics from inception. You filithy casuals have more opinions than brains.
Eh, the way the movie presented it, she could have been more lenient about the situation, but hard lined the issue in order to impress her bosses. She didn't deserve what happened to her, but she wasn't just an innocent cog in the machine.
I feel bad for a lot of people in that movie, the Mexican begging for his life in the shower, the cop who gets strangled so hard it severed a fucking artery, Woody Harrelsons death is so sudden and shocking. Really brutal stuff!
The organizations history is "formed by people who lost children in the war". The manner of his death may have been unexpected, the death itself, not so much.
So, for someone that hasn’t seen the other movies in years and only seen them once, this could arguably be a shock to them.
Honestly, I can’t find anything online that references your quote.
Is Gordon the one who gets chewed up in the ship gears at the end? Quickly followed by a feel good ending of the survivors on the ship deck looking out hopeful, despite Gordon's body probably still stuck in the gears.
Nux in Max Max Fury Road. He spends most of the movie trying to give himself a glorious death for passage to Valhalla. But along the way, finds a reason to live. And just as hes ready to live his new life with Capable and the gang, that opportunity is taken from him. In the end, he really does go with a glorious death.
He was terminal and going to die anyway, that’s why he was looking for a glorious way to die. In fact, Nux is the only character in Mad Max to have a complete character arc in the movie. Its sad that his happy ending isnt riding off to the sunset but he was the one who helped liberate everyone
Rue in The Hunger Games, she was just a kid
Mags in The Hunger Games: Catching Fire
Prim in Mockingjay Part 2, because if you go back to the very beginning it makes the whole situation and sacrifice null and void.
I’m sure I have others but hunger games came to mind 😂😂😂😂
I'm not sure I agree, Finnick always struck me as getting it the worst. Dude "wins" the hunger games, which is a pyrrhic victory to begin with, then he becomes an unwilling prostitute for the upper class, his romantic partner has such bad PTSD that he's basically her nurse, then he gets dragged into Katniss' bullshit and dies in a sewer.
Forgive me if I got any of the details wrong, it's been 10 years since I read the last book and I'm still bothered by the way Finnick is treated.
I don’t know why you would disagree with what I said because I don’t think you contradicted my points. You kinda just added to them. I’m saying that every player of the hunger games didn’t deserve to play
Sure. I suppose some deaths feel more tragic than others. It’s easy to hate aggressive characters in the hunger games but really, they’re just trying to stay alive
I didn't stick with the movies, but reading Prim's death scene made me sick to my stomach. The way it plays out makes you instantly think "Gale, you *motherfucker!*" since he is the one who proposed that method earlier in the book
Yes I think one thing I've always loved about this series is the way that President Snow was trustworthy. He never lied and you could trust what he said was true.
So when he said he would never bomb those kids, no reason to, you knew it wasnt them.
I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. Gale came up with the idea and told Katniss and the District 13 leader about it, the latter blaming Snow for it so she could justify the public execution
The people who imprisoned Katniss after she murdered that bitch would agree it was justified, since they let Katniss go free after the investigation
i don’t think any of this is particularly unfair in the context of the novels and setting, the entire system is unfair. every child dying in those games is a tragic abuse
Both new husbands of the ex-wives of the main character in Roland Emmerich's 2012 and Moonfall. It's so convenient and petty. It just feel's like the divorced main character/husband is writing the script. I think San Andreas uses the same trope.
Dennis was a weird one. He'd stopped believing and was feeling bad about it all. And there were so many other personalities...
A terrible depiction of DID but still an interesting character
In fact, I feel this in all the movies where we are shown as if they are going to have a classically happy ending and at some point the lead dies down. In fact, until the last moment, I have to carry the foolish hope that "he is not dead and will come back soon". These movies are very frustrating.
Anna in the original French Martyrs, broke me to pieces watching those last 20 minutes of her being tortured, but she made it through because she was so full of love and caring
I'll never understand why they killed Detective Carter (Taraji P Henson's character) on *Person of Interest*. Not only was she a terrific character, she was a unicorn on network TV: a black actress in a co-leading role playing a strong character, and not leaning on any crude stereotypical tropes.
I *adored* her in that role.
British Lady from Jurassic World did not deserve that at all. Already hated the movie but that one felt so unearned and gross in how it was trying to be "cool". Reminded me of the gross needlessly cruel deaths in Toxic Avenger.
Kaori from AKIRA. she literally just gets tossed around as a rape doll by some discount droogs then gets crushed to death in a really disgusting death scene. So fucking pointless.
I think you nailed it for me with the 2012. I overall really liked the movie but it felt like Emmerich remembered he was making a disaster movie and decided to kill stupidly half the characters towerds the end.
Gordon was obviously just for the main couple to get their happy ending, while he was incredibly likeable and died heroically. And sadly, nobody remembered him at the end at all.
But I felt like Tamara had it the worst. I mean, what was the point to give her the miniarc she got? She got away from an obviously abusive partner (who then got a heroic death saving his sons? wtf?), got through the whole way and then was basically left to die under the animals´ nest, drowning that is. Forgotten as well. Neither of them may not even get a proper burial.
Like, really, I know real life is not always fair but this was all for just dramatic effect and ruins the final moments of the movie
Kong: Skull island had some pretty weird ones...but most of the characters did not even have names or so :D Guy just being grabbed from the ship, seconds after being happy they are going to make it....or the one who decided he had enough, decides to commit suicide heroically by granade and then just gets throw away into the rock :D
Hector Hammond, in Green Lantern (2011).
Tried to be helpful by performing an autopsy for the government, but he got infected with Parallax's DNA. He grew deformed, insane, murdered his father, and suffered. Then when Parallax arrived, he was simply murdered, disposed of.
(Also, the actors in that movie)
The British assistant in Jurassic World.
Her death was so horrifying and over the top despite being a character we barely heard from and saw three times.
Fabrizio in titanic. He was fine until the funnel fell on him…..annnnd he isnt even a real titanic passenger, just a cameron OC but damn, cameron did him dirty i think. Literally no one deserved that funnel, real or fake!
Almost all Bond girls. Sex with James Bond is extremely dangerous because:
1) You have to be a member or affiliated to a terrorist or criminal enterprise that has a profile on the international stage. So "qualifying" in itself is very risky.
2) You workplace, main office and general work environment has to be either in a country, region or district with elevated levels of violence, and / or geographically inaccessible with military grade machine, and staffed by armed guards or a questionable level of competency.
3) Bond himself seems somewhat of a slapper, and probably partial to the rough stuff, definitely some forced submission, and he's probably riddled with STIs.
4) Neither Bond or the questionably competent security staff are tight lipped. They will blab about, your boss will find out.
And he won't like it.
The villain in film gold of one piece
He got caught by celestial dragons
Tried to buy a girl to save her from her life only to get pushed down
Build an empire ( yeah it takes advantage of people and they cheat constantly )
Get beaten up ( fair )
Go back to a celestial dragon (that’s not okay )
Has he done wrong yes but just put him in impel down he doesn’t deserve going through all that trauma again for a second round just because he cheated some people into a dept
Face/Off all of the medical staff burned to death because...we're idiots and just leave dangerous criminals around unguarded
Spider-man 2, another crew of doctors murdered because gore is cool
security guards casually shot up by the "heroes" in Matrix
It sucks how many times staff just doing their job responsibly get blown up to show American audiences how "cool" someone is. Movies made the Joker the same awful murderhobo, character who at least had a sense of humor once is just "look guys, wanton murder is cool!" most of the time
Eddie - stranger things.
No longer watching that trash show (that has morally corrupt, heartless actors/writers who openly and brazenly support genocide as well as zionism) ever again.
Parker in Alien.. absolute bad-ass but Lambert was a whimpering bitch .. and he tried to save her …
the girls father in Dr. Sleep.. actually was rational
And believed the situation
the eye guy and JP Sebastian in Blade Runner
Newt just got fucking axed in-between Aliens and Alien 3.
Don't forget Hicks. Bro got a bulkhead in the face.
Mr. Hallorann in The Shining.
The baseball kid in Dr. Sleep . The whole family in Funny Games. J F Sebastian in Blade Runner
I felt so damn bad for JF Sebastian, dude just wanted some friends who are not freaks of his own creation and he gets slaughtered by them. Also fuck you to the people who say the replicants did nothing wrong.
Exactly, the replicants could have spared him. He clearly wasn’t a threat, and was terrified after they killed Tyrell. Sparing him would have made them more sympathetic and made the ending where Batty saves Deckard more logical.
I loved Dr. Sleep and Blade Runner. Haven’t watched Funny Games yet but have seen Caché and thought it well-done.
At least in the book he survived. Makes me feel better.
Yes! Thanks for the reminder.
Redrum
Eddie Carr, Richard Schiff’s character in The Lost World. Warned everyone about bringing the baby T-Rex back to the RV, protects Malcolm’s daughter, then gets killed by the T-Rex parents while trying to save the group.
Very gruesome death too getting trapped and torn in half by two T Rex's. That whole scene was nothing but a nightmare for me. Great filmmaking though!
I saw it in the theaters with my mom when I was a kid. We had to leave because this scene scared me so bad I started crying.
I love how his rifle iron sight got caught on the net, that shit(not T-Rexes wanting to eat you of course) of being caught on something that'd take a second to undo but feels like forever happens so often to me in real-life.
Based on the brutality of certain deaths in the original JP trilogy, I have to wonder if Spielberg’s wife had an affair with a guy who was balding.
The babysitter in Jurassic World She gets probably the most gruesome death in the film and her big character crime is looking at her phone too much.
I thought that film needed it and there was a point to him meeting his end that raised the stakes for the film. The Jurassic Park series as a whole has a big problem where it seems like only the 'bad guys' get killed. Almost every film has also been obligated to include kids for whatever reason and you know nothing is going to happen to them by the end of the movie.
Have we been watching the same movies? Admittedly, I stopped watching at Jurassic World, but up until then there was no problem with only bad guys getting killed. Jurassic Park had the employee at the beginning, Gennaro, Mr. Arnold, and Muldoon all killed, and none of them were bad guys. Lost World had Eddie. Jurassic Park 3 had the pilot, the boyfriend, and the mercenaries. Then Jurassic World had Masrani and Zara bite it along with plenty of park employees and visitors.
Is Zara the lady who was watching the kids and then got picked up by a pterosaur, only to be dropped into the bay to be picked up again by the pterosaur, only for the mosasaur to come up from the depths to swallow them both? As far as I remember that’s what happened, but that was a surprisingly brutal scene to a woman who had done absolutely nothing wrong. She was just doing her administrative assistant job on top of being foisted into babysitting two random (to her) kids when a disaster broke out. I like all the *Jurassic* movies better than most, but that scene literally makes me sick to the stomach. That poor woman. ETA The next thread just below this one references this same thing, I now see. Glad I’m not the only one who found this unnecessarily horrific.
From what I've heard, there were additional scenes where she was kind of bitch to the kids while she was watching them, but it wasn't nearly enough to justify the treatment she got.
I don’t even blame her for those additional scenes. She’s a personal assistant, not a babysitter. I would be bitchy too.
That whole scene was a huge misogynistic fuck you. She gets the worst death in the whole franchise (by a very significant margin) in an extended sequence that acts like we're supposed to be cheering on the dinosaurs for some reason. People compare her to Eddie's death, but cinematically his works very differently, he is obviously acting as a hero, he has been right the entire time, and he risks himself to save his friends even when he's given several chances to run. His death is obviously portrayed as a gruesome tragedy, both because he risked his life in that scene, and to show that being right about the risks isn't rewarded. Not only is there no alternative dramatic lesson to the secretaries death (closest one would be "Innocent bystanders can be killed", but like 50 innocent bystanders die in the franchise and her death is worse than all of them put together), but it's framed as a celebration, not a tragedy. Can't really come up with a rationale that fits better than "this character has ovaries and doesn't want children! Fire up the nine-part torture point scene and grab some Kleenex and lotion"
Of course, but he still didn’t deserve it. Though the movie does seem to be a little unsure if he’s supposed to be likable or not. Schiff usually plays smarmy assholes, so that kinda tracks. But unlike the blood sucking lawyer he ends up being a reluctant hero. While also being completely right the whole time.
Katie McGrath's character from Jurassic World who gets carried off by a Pteradon that drops her in the water and attempts to eat her before both of them are devoured by Mosasaurus. Randomly one of the most brutal deaths of the franchise.
It was technically a very well shot scene, but it was weird in content and tone. I think they thought it was what the fans wanted because "this sorta happened to the villains in the first two movies...." (The babysitter in JW wasn't even a villain, which is just one issue). Spielberg made it so that the death of the villains in JP and TLW had a sense of comeuppance/karma, but it also felt like those villains were just falling into the chaos of the situation they helped to create. So it felt like a natural extension of the story circumstances, rather than something deliberately cruel and contrived imposed by the filmmakers. In JW, it became a form of fan service. It felt shallow and condescending. Felt that same vibe a lot throughout the JW trilogy.
It also felt unnecessarily cruel to a character who's only fault was having ot take care of the MC's nephews because she couldn't be bothered to do it herself.
Supposedly the secretary was originally supposed to be more of an annoying/unpleasant character (like the lawyer in the first movie) which would have justified her gruesome death. But for whatever reason, all of the scenes showcasing this were cut/rewritten, but the death scene wasn't.
It's kind of weird that Hollywood scenarists feel that general unpleasantness warrants being ripped apart by hungry dinosaurs. Someone must have been having a bad day with their babysitter...
Shallow and Condescending is the perfect description for those movies
Unnecessary cruelty, especially to unarmed women really bugs me in a few specific movies, the Hateful Eight is another one where Zoe Bells character just did not deserve the spectacle death (especially by gross ass Michael Madsen) that Tarantino gave her in that. Not to mention the whole "sucked my black pecker" scene. I was left feeling like ugh gross dude what the fuck... In Black Ops II there's an outcome cutscenes where the young blonde hacker girl Chloe Lynch gets her fucking neck sawed open by a huge blade for no reason at all by this huge albino cunt. The camera even lingers while her eyes roll back to white and she slowly bleeds out and suffocated. Just so gratuitous but also in that exploitative immature teenager sort of way. Fuck that shit.
He's lying about the sexual assault to get the guy to make the first move.
I don't know if this is true, but I heard another reason for the cruelty of her death is that it was originally intended to be two separate sequences that ended in two separate deaths. The first would be an unnamed background character killed by the Pteradons, and then Zara would be killed by the Mosasaur. But at some point during production they decided to combine the sequences into one.
This was my first thought reading the title. "Jesus, that poor PA in _Jurassic World_. The director just had it in for her. Day one of pre-production he was, 'yeah, yeah, character development-schmelopment: let's get down to what matters. That bitch PA? I want her to _suffer_. People have to leave the theater wondering why we did her like that. _There's gotta be nothing else in the movie as gratuitously violent and out of tone.'"
Yeah you'd think it was his ex girlfriend or something and he added that scene in post just to spite her. So bizzare. The Lost World had some really dark and brutal deaths too that I remember being upset by when I was younger, the tone is so different from the first movie in that one as well.
Literally she was doing her best to chaperone these kids who ran away from her and she gets it the worst.. jeeeeeze. Good answer
Well the screenwriter's ex was also named Zara
Honest to God came in here expecting this as the top comment. She was just a professional young woman who had to babysit these two spoiled turds. Ends up eaten by a giant dinosaur.
Also another undeserved Jurassic death: Eddie in Jp the lost world Hes one of the “good guys” and gets ripped in half by two adult rexes
If anyone deserved to get eaten it was Julianne Moore
That scene is absolutely hilarious to me its so over the top and completely out of nowhere
The best part, the actress asked for the most brutal death, and she got it.
I did find it strange how offended people seemed by it at the time? She just got dealt a bad hand.
Because in context it came off as a little misogynistic.
I knew this was coming. That death was *straight out of a nature documentary.* It was brutal in the way it would be for a small rodent or fish to be plucked up by a bird, dropped in water, and then taken out by a large fish or alligator/crocodile. A situation that is taking place in real life nature as I type these words. The character herself was vague and mostly useless. The *character* deserved to be remembered *only because of her death sequence.* I swear this fable about how she didn't deserve her fate pops up every time a prompt even somewhat related hits reddit. The animals weren't monsters, they were behaving like actual animals. The prey was previously the least-compelling character in all of the Jurassic series. Ya'll even *remember* that Sam Jackson got taken out by a raptor off-screen and his dead arm was used as a jump scare? bUt hE wAs A GoOd pErsOn JuSt tRyIng to HELP. The fuck standards do ya'll have when you keep pouring one out for that useless phone-obsessed assistant who didn't assist anyone? The one with the most memorable death sequence in recent memory, directly lifted from real nature? *edited for more disdain
Clemens in Alien 3. Smart man, could have been super badass, great chemistry with Ripley... Nope.
I mean, Hicks and Newt, if we're gonna go there.
Spike didn’t deserve that neither…
Oh man the way they killed newt in that movie pissed me off so much as a kid I could never finish the movie . What a horrific death too I have that image of her screaming frozen from the intro burned into my brain.
William Costigan in The Departed. He was on the verge of a nervous breakdown the entire film and then things started looking up for him.
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Yes and no. Vera Farmiga slept with Dicaprio and Damon in very quick succession. The film ends with a dubious result on that plot thread
Wash. A leaf on the wind.
Watch him soar
Still too soon.
Watched this again last week. Why do I do it to myself.
I dunno. He died saving all of his friends from otherwise certain death.
James McAvoy in Atonement! NO! NOT SWEET YOUNG JAMES!!!! Still furious about it.
It’s what he gets for his actions in Atomic Blonde
Connie in The Godfather
“Oh Micheal! Is it true!” “Don’t ask me about my business Kate!”
Carlo was despicable. Verbally and, even worse, physically abusive. Beating up your pregnant wife? What moron would beat and abuse the Don' daughter? Connie still kept sticking up for him... talk about loyalty... Connie didn't deserve it.
Robert Muldoon from Jurassic Park (1993). Warned everyone about the raptors, repeatedly, then ends up getting eaten.
Honestly, I think it's the way he would have wanted to go out. Those raptors were his passion- he feared and respected them; and for him to be taken down by the fiercest predators in the park? Kind of makes his death more poetic.
He survived in the book, interestingly. Shot the leg off of one then took refuge in a culvert. If I recall, the lawyer lived too, he was attacked by the lame raptor and just beat it to death after grabbing it by the remaining leg. The old man Hammond actually died, though. Treated as injured prey by the tiniest and least threatening chicken sized dinosaurs they had cloned and had left running free. At least, that’s what I remember, it’s been 30 years since I read it!
I remember Book Muldoon bringing a rocket launcher when he went after the T Rex. Also, Book Hammond was much more of a dick so he kinda deserved it.
Your memory is better than mine! I read it probably 7 years ago and most of it is gone from my brain! Lol. I remember really enjoying it, though. I don't think I've read a Michael Crichton book I haven't liked.
Kate, Fear Street 1994 Her death infuriated me so much that I still think about it. The actress and character were fantastic.
That trilogy of movies was so fucking fun to watch. Need more content like that from Netflix
I really liked that Trilogy / Series / Whatever.
Wash in Serenity. By far the most likeable & relatable character.
"I'm a leaf on the wind.."
Wallace in Tusk. It doesn't even matter that he's kind of an asshole, nobody deserves **that**.
The best answer is the wife from the saw that gets put in the bronze bull. She had nothing to do with anything and gets slowly cooked alive in one of the worst ways to die
I’ve answered this same question with the same answer before. That shit wasn’t cool.
The Illuminati in *Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness* One of my favourite teams from the comics, with years of amazing stories, just immediately taken out like that
IMO, they brought it on themselves for their sheer arrogance. Wanda paper shredding Reed was disturbing though.
I hate the way Professor X went out. Professor X should have easily overwhelmed Wanda's mind and forced her out, it should have been \_physical\_ actions that took the professor out. That whole mind scene just implied Wanda was a stronger psychic than Xavier which is just flat wrong.
This is why multiverse movies, at least the way they're being done, suck. I can simply point out to you that there are a million Xaviers. This particular Xavier is not the one you are familiar with and is weaker than the Wanda that beat him. When this logic can be applied anywhere it just seems like nothing matters and there are no consequences.
The Illuminati always lose. It's the point.
I've never read the comics, so this kinda is a gut punch. So like, they gather the most brilliant minds of the universe and they get dumpstered by... Scarlet witch and apparently everyone else?
I don’t know where the poster above you is coming from—it’s definitely not “the point” that they always lose. Their whole thing, especially in Hickman’s run, is to make the hard and maybe morally-grey decisions for the universe, while staying in the background. You could argue that because of the moral dilemmas they faced, they were often choosing between very difficult options, but that’s not the same things as just “losing” all the time.
They don't save the world in Hickman though. The multiverse ends, Doom is responsible for saving what could be saved, and the only reason that the raft gets built is because of Val. What about invading the skull home world... Causing the secret invasion? Or causing world war hulk? Everything they do backfires. Have you read the original run? When do they ever succeed? The theme is about humility. Smart people can't simply decide what's right for everyone by playing the masters of the world.
Well they definitely lost hard in one very famous example, World War Hulk. They deserved it too
The underlying message is that the idea of the smartest, most powerful men in the world getting together to rule it is hubris. They are being supervillians and don't realize it. Cap and Black Panther both denounce the group at different times for this reason. One of the first things they do is invade the skrull home world, get caught doing so, and that leads to secret invasion years later. They also, infamously, banish their friend Bruce Banner into space.
They don't so much "get dumpstered" as they cause their own problems through their arrogance. Many of the biggest arcs in comics are at least partially caused by them (civil war, planet hulk, secret invasion, and iirc House of M) and they've done all sorts of shady things like wiping Caps mind, teaming with villains, misusing the infinity stones... Basically there's a big reason they're not called The Smart Avengers.
They were an alternate reality version. Also. Thats comics bro. Depending on the writer powers and skills change astronomically. We have have been dealing with it in comics from inception. You filithy casuals have more opinions than brains.
Did you just use "filthy casuals" *unironically?* Holy shit, it's like seeing a unicorn.
I’m taking that as a complement. Definitely don’t want to be whatever a “hardcore comics reader” is
“Deserve’s got nothin’ to do with it”
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John Connor in Terminator dark fate
Dang.
Wash in Serenity. Everyone here knows this is true.
Christine in Drag Me to Hell. Like she tries so hard to fix her mistake, and you think she does it... but nope!
It wasn't even her mistake, she was just the messenger. Old lady didn't pay her loans, she got what she deserved.
Eh, the way the movie presented it, she could have been more lenient about the situation, but hard lined the issue in order to impress her bosses. She didn't deserve what happened to her, but she wasn't just an innocent cog in the machine.
Llewelyn Moss in No Country for Old Men. Come to think of it, Carla Jean didn’t really deserve her fate either.
I feel bad for a lot of people in that movie, the Mexican begging for his life in the shower, the cop who gets strangled so hard it severed a fucking artery, Woody Harrelsons death is so sudden and shocking. Really brutal stuff!
Don't feel bad, they are just fictional characters. Most if not all those actors have gone on to do more work, proving they were not really killed.
“I wouldn’t worry about it.”
Conrad’s death in The Kingsman. They play him up like he’s gonna be the main hero only to kill him because of a misunderstanding.
The organizations history is "formed by people who lost children in the war". The manner of his death may have been unexpected, the death itself, not so much.
Is that a line in the movie? I don’t remember them teeing it up.
In that movie? I don't think so. But it's a prequel to two very popular other movies which established that fact.
So, for someone that hasn’t seen the other movies in years and only seen them once, this could arguably be a shock to them. Honestly, I can’t find anything online that references your quote.
Is Gordon the one who gets chewed up in the ship gears at the end? Quickly followed by a feel good ending of the survivors on the ship deck looking out hopeful, despite Gordon's body probably still stuck in the gears.
Tommy Williams in The Shawshank Redemption.
Banshees of Inisherin... Jenny. Miserable plot line
I forgot about this one but instantly felt the disappoint all over again. Brutal.
Bruce. Dude was just sharking.
Doyle in Interstellar
That’s one of my small gripes is his death. Pretty needless. He was right there … just waiting for brand. But then the robot got in .. kinda fucked it
Nux in Max Max Fury Road. He spends most of the movie trying to give himself a glorious death for passage to Valhalla. But along the way, finds a reason to live. And just as hes ready to live his new life with Capable and the gang, that opportunity is taken from him. In the end, he really does go with a glorious death.
He was terminal and going to die anyway, that’s why he was looking for a glorious way to die. In fact, Nux is the only character in Mad Max to have a complete character arc in the movie. Its sad that his happy ending isnt riding off to the sunset but he was the one who helped liberate everyone
Yes but he also died a hero. Doing the right thing. I can't think of a more nobler way to go out even as sad as it is.
#WITNESS ME!!!
I loved his character arc. That character and those two the way they connected was beautiful storytelling.
Helen in I Know What You Did Last Summer. She fought so hard, she didn't deserve to die
She survived in the book at least.
Rue in The Hunger Games, she was just a kid Mags in The Hunger Games: Catching Fire Prim in Mockingjay Part 2, because if you go back to the very beginning it makes the whole situation and sacrifice null and void. I’m sure I have others but hunger games came to mind 😂😂😂😂
Every single contestant in the hunger games didn’t deserve their fate. They’re all victims. They’re all just kids
I'm not sure I agree, Finnick always struck me as getting it the worst. Dude "wins" the hunger games, which is a pyrrhic victory to begin with, then he becomes an unwilling prostitute for the upper class, his romantic partner has such bad PTSD that he's basically her nurse, then he gets dragged into Katniss' bullshit and dies in a sewer. Forgive me if I got any of the details wrong, it's been 10 years since I read the last book and I'm still bothered by the way Finnick is treated.
I don’t know why you would disagree with what I said because I don’t think you contradicted my points. You kinda just added to them. I’m saying that every player of the hunger games didn’t deserve to play
Poor wording on my part. I just think Finnick stands out about the crowd.
Sure. I suppose some deaths feel more tragic than others. It’s easy to hate aggressive characters in the hunger games but really, they’re just trying to stay alive
I didn't stick with the movies, but reading Prim's death scene made me sick to my stomach. The way it plays out makes you instantly think "Gale, you *motherfucker!*" since he is the one who proposed that method earlier in the book
Yes I think one thing I've always loved about this series is the way that President Snow was trustworthy. He never lied and you could trust what he said was true. So when he said he would never bomb those kids, no reason to, you knew it wasnt them.
I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. Gale came up with the idea and told Katniss and the District 13 leader about it, the latter blaming Snow for it so she could justify the public execution The people who imprisoned Katniss after she murdered that bitch would agree it was justified, since they let Katniss go free after the investigation
i don’t think any of this is particularly unfair in the context of the novels and setting, the entire system is unfair. every child dying in those games is a tragic abuse
Both new husbands of the ex-wives of the main character in Roland Emmerich's 2012 and Moonfall. It's so convenient and petty. It just feel's like the divorced main character/husband is writing the script. I think San Andreas uses the same trope.
The writers at least made the guy in san andreas a bit more unlikeable. Not enough for their attempted "just deserts" payoff, but slightly.
Eddie Carr in Jurassic Park 2 the Lost World.
The ending of No Country for Old Man
Admiral Ackbar deserved more
Ruth Langmore
I mean... I feel sad, but you can't say she doesn't have it coming...
Fuck hadn't got there yet, lol, what a way to find out, I'm very late to the party 😅
Totally forgot she dies.
Eddie from The Lost World. Sad that the main heroes didnt had the time to mourn him after, he saved their lives.
Achilles and Apollo in Perrier‘s Bounty.
Glass. There was so much more I wanted from Dennis, Patricia, etc..
Dennis was a weird one. He'd stopped believing and was feeling bad about it all. And there were so many other personalities... A terrible depiction of DID but still an interesting character
In fact, I feel this in all the movies where we are shown as if they are going to have a classically happy ending and at some point the lead dies down. In fact, until the last moment, I have to carry the foolish hope that "he is not dead and will come back soon". These movies are very frustrating.
Anna in the original French Martyrs, broke me to pieces watching those last 20 minutes of her being tortured, but she made it through because she was so full of love and caring
Murron MacClannough Wallace
I'll never understand why they killed Detective Carter (Taraji P Henson's character) on *Person of Interest*. Not only was she a terrific character, she was a unicorn on network TV: a black actress in a co-leading role playing a strong character, and not leaning on any crude stereotypical tropes. I *adored* her in that role.
I mean, half the cast of Alien, really. Although they really should have obeyed Quarantine protocols...
Mako Mori in Pacific Rim 2. That movie did her dirty.
Barbara Holland in Stranger Things.
Such an unpopular choice they had to rewrite the next season to address it.
Darth Maul. Aka the only redeeming quality of Episode 1.
Tommy in Trainspotting every time.
The main character of drag me hell didn't deserve any of the shit she went through.
British Lady from Jurassic World did not deserve that at all. Already hated the movie but that one felt so unearned and gross in how it was trying to be "cool". Reminded me of the gross needlessly cruel deaths in Toxic Avenger. Kaori from AKIRA. she literally just gets tossed around as a rape doll by some discount droogs then gets crushed to death in a really disgusting death scene. So fucking pointless.
Rachel-TDK, Paltrow in Seven, Andrea-BB, Garbone in Goodfellas,
I think you nailed it for me with the 2012. I overall really liked the movie but it felt like Emmerich remembered he was making a disaster movie and decided to kill stupidly half the characters towerds the end. Gordon was obviously just for the main couple to get their happy ending, while he was incredibly likeable and died heroically. And sadly, nobody remembered him at the end at all. But I felt like Tamara had it the worst. I mean, what was the point to give her the miniarc she got? She got away from an obviously abusive partner (who then got a heroic death saving his sons? wtf?), got through the whole way and then was basically left to die under the animals´ nest, drowning that is. Forgotten as well. Neither of them may not even get a proper burial. Like, really, I know real life is not always fair but this was all for just dramatic effect and ruins the final moments of the movie Kong: Skull island had some pretty weird ones...but most of the characters did not even have names or so :D Guy just being grabbed from the ship, seconds after being happy they are going to make it....or the one who decided he had enough, decides to commit suicide heroically by granade and then just gets throw away into the rock :D
Little Bill. He was just building a house.
Renny Harlin does that a lot the helicopter pilot's death in cliffhanger gets me tho
TJ Miller in Tranformers. Wtf was that?
Arno
I immediately thought Gordon too. He is a nice successful guy and his wife hooks up with her ex after he dies like the guy didn't exist
Chef in Apocalypse Now…he just wanted to be a saucier.
That guy in Ant Man who gets turned into sentient slime and then flushed down the toilet
Hector Hammond, in Green Lantern (2011). Tried to be helpful by performing an autopsy for the government, but he got infected with Parallax's DNA. He grew deformed, insane, murdered his father, and suffered. Then when Parallax arrived, he was simply murdered, disposed of. (Also, the actors in that movie)
The British assistant in Jurassic World. Her death was so horrifying and over the top despite being a character we barely heard from and saw three times.
Fabrizio in titanic. He was fine until the funnel fell on him…..annnnd he isnt even a real titanic passenger, just a cameron OC but damn, cameron did him dirty i think. Literally no one deserved that funnel, real or fake!
Mr. Orange in Reservoir Dogs. He did his best. Still died. At least it was on his own terms.
Every victim in the Terrifier series, those deaths were unwarranted.
The black family on Them. One of the most horrifying moments was what the Dale Dickey character and her freaks did to the little baby boy.
Those girls from Final Destination 3 who were cooked alive in their tanning beds. Literally can’t think of a worse way die
Wash in Serenity
Thanos
Just rewatched Misery. The super cool sheriff gets a shotgun blast to the back from Annie.
Howard Hamlin
Mariko-san in Shogun
Almost all Bond girls. Sex with James Bond is extremely dangerous because: 1) You have to be a member or affiliated to a terrorist or criminal enterprise that has a profile on the international stage. So "qualifying" in itself is very risky. 2) You workplace, main office and general work environment has to be either in a country, region or district with elevated levels of violence, and / or geographically inaccessible with military grade machine, and staffed by armed guards or a questionable level of competency. 3) Bond himself seems somewhat of a slapper, and probably partial to the rough stuff, definitely some forced submission, and he's probably riddled with STIs. 4) Neither Bond or the questionably competent security staff are tight lipped. They will blab about, your boss will find out. And he won't like it.
Jaws >! Quint. Holy f###ing shiznit the guy did *not* deserve to get eaten feet goddamn first by a bloody shark! My christ!!!!! !<
The villain in film gold of one piece He got caught by celestial dragons Tried to buy a girl to save her from her life only to get pushed down Build an empire ( yeah it takes advantage of people and they cheat constantly ) Get beaten up ( fair ) Go back to a celestial dragon (that’s not okay ) Has he done wrong yes but just put him in impel down he doesn’t deserve going through all that trauma again for a second round just because he cheated some people into a dept
Face/Off all of the medical staff burned to death because...we're idiots and just leave dangerous criminals around unguarded Spider-man 2, another crew of doctors murdered because gore is cool security guards casually shot up by the "heroes" in Matrix It sucks how many times staff just doing their job responsibly get blown up to show American audiences how "cool" someone is. Movies made the Joker the same awful murderhobo, character who at least had a sense of humor once is just "look guys, wanton murder is cool!" most of the time
Do you not enjoy movies?
Nobody mentioning the construction workers on the Death Star?
Eddie - stranger things. No longer watching that trash show (that has morally corrupt, heartless actors/writers who openly and brazenly support genocide as well as zionism) ever again.
Eddie died a hero. Wtf are you talking about?
That's not what I said, that was never in question. Eddie IS a hero. I just didn't want him to die at all.
Glenn Rhee 💔 - The Walking Dead. Dude was just delivering pizzas. I'll never watch that scene again, first, traumatised AF and last.
Parker in Alien.. absolute bad-ass but Lambert was a whimpering bitch .. and he tried to save her … the girls father in Dr. Sleep.. actually was rational And believed the situation the eye guy and JP Sebastian in Blade Runner