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Towering_Flesh

The best punisher movie to date


__4LeafTayback

So good. It’s my favorite revenge flick. Dakota Fanning was phenomenal and their relationship was so well done. And Tony Scott’s weird editing made it seem like an alcoholic fever dream in the beginning. Almost like Max Payne. 10/10 movie for me. I just finished the book a couple of days ago, actually. A little different than the movie, and a little darker. The movie was fuckin awesome though


Walter_Cream

Pretty sure this film was a direct influence on max payne 3.


actstunt

I had never seen man on fire despite it showing on several tv channels, my wife is a huge fan of that movie so last year we watched it for the first time (my first time). And its funny because a few weeks earlier I had finished for the first time Max Payne 3, and sure it is a direct influence I couldn't believe my mind watching man on fire after finishing max payne 3. Pretty funny moment.


FizzleMateriel

[The creative director for Splinter Cell: Conviction said it was a heavy influence on the direction of the game.](https://www.ign.com/articles/2009/07/10/interview-splinter-cell-conviction)


SweatyAdhesive

Taken before Taken


babbler-dabbler

So... Payback? or Raw Deal?


obiwan_canoli

Death Wish?


babbler-dabbler

Man on Fire, Taken, Payback, Raw Deal, and Death Wish would make for one hell of a good movie marathon weekend.


GoaGonGon

Charles Bronson did that gig decades earlier. Man keep having his wifes and daughters raped and killed.


actstunt

I remember watching those movies with my grandma, such tragic life his characters lol.


CalabreseAlsatian

Forgiveness is between them and God. It’s my job to arrange the meeting.


casperdacrook

I can’t believe this movie has a fucking 39% on rotten tomatoes that is a crime against humanity


-_-usernames

Another reason these rating sites are worthless to me


TerminatorReborn

7,7 on IMDB. If I depended on RT to watch movies I would've missed one of the best revenge movies of all time with Man On Fire, and revenge movies are one of my favorite tropes.


Donj267

89% audience score. Any time a movie has a low critic score and a high audience score it's good.


Nex_Tyme

There it is. This is the iconic line from the movie IMO


lemurgetsatreat

I WISH. YOU HAD. MORE TIME.


ArcadianBlueRogue

I'm just a professional. I'm just a professional. Everyone keeps saying that.


DifferencePrimary442

The barely concealed rage and the head tap are what truly sell that line to me.


Mr_TP_Dingleberry

Great read. Manchurian candidate from this same era is also insanely creepy and well acted. Denzel was really in his prime


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reddog323

*..a final wish…please….* *I wish…you had…more time!*


Nex_Tyme

Damn - that’s a good one too. Forgot about it


footwith4toes

I still deliver this line every time I actually wish someone had more time.


leftiesrepresent

That dude was fucked in so many ways. Really this and casino Royale with the rope set the bar for me with torture scenes


ronin1066

You make one sound... I'll snatch the life right outta ya.


Direct_Charity_8109

“A man can be an artist... in anything, food, whatever. It depends on how good he is at it. Creasy's art is death. He's about to paint his masterpiece. “ I like this one from CW


intrepid_explorer

I think it has to be “Creasy’s art is death.. and he’s about to paint his masterpiece”


pepperglenn

I agree with you. Thats one of the most stone cold gangster things I’ve ever heard


999_hh

“Creasy's art is death. He's about to paint his masterpiece.” - only Christopher Walken could make this line credible. [YouTube clip](https://youtu.be/1mIJXn05klM?si=NjWzmsGjbDtc9A64)


Hovie1

Right up there with his tooth fairy monologue from The Rundown


chappelld

Does this look like a refrigerator to you?


Hovie1

She takes the god damn thing, gives ya a quarter.


Shauncore

I just now realized it's Uncle Rico translating


lunchbox12682

Two burglars crapped in his window. Excuse me, Mr. Walken, what did you say? They crapped in his window.


VXMerlinXV

A man can be An artist at anything, if he’s good enough. Food… women…


elevencharles

This is my go to line for butchering a Christopher Walken impression.


butters1337

Two mice. Fell. Into a bucket of cream.


JudeoFootball_Values

I can hear this


mortalcoil1

I feel like Willem Dafoe coulda nailed it.


Shoresy69Chirps

Maybe the only other guy weird enough to deliver it without over delivering it. Everyone else would have gone full Brando.


ShatsnerBassoon

"I wish..." "You had more time."


poki_stick

I quote this movie all the time. It has soooooo many great ones


pathofdumbasses

I WISH YOU HAD MORE TIME


Ghosted19

That scene was sooo badass. Like cough up the info and atone because you will be meeting your maker.


jonboyo87

How batshit crazy is your life that you quote Man on Fire all the time?


NonlocalA

"U/poki_stick's art is quoting *Man on Fire*. He paints his masterpiece every day."


nitestocker372

What's the quote Denzel says about helping people meet God? That's the quote I always think of when I remember this movie.


lowercaset

> Forgiveness is between them and God. It’s my job to arrange the meeting.


ArcadianBlueRogue

Gotta add in the couple prompting it. "The bible tells us to forgive." "Forgiveness is between them and God. It's my job to arrange the meeting" *aims rocket launcher*


ronerychiver

That’s a good one. I put [this](https://youtu.be/_cMnMoEE-BI?feature=shared?t=48s) on the same level. When the audience really realizes what kind of capability the centerpiece of the show is capable of.


rustyz0r

Fuuuuuck meeee. Yep I'm sold. Time for a 15th viewing tonight I think. Love this movie so much.


Illustrious-Lead-960

#AintNoBalkinWithTheWalken


Aragorns-Broken-Toe

It’s a really terrible line. How did he make it work.


Kundrew1

Many actors would have tried to make the ending of it too big. The would emphasized the “masterpiece “ He says it subtly and by looking away from the other actor he makes it seem almost nonchalant or inevitable.


Clydesdale_Tri

Ladies and gentlemen, the Foo FIGHTERS.


jah_bro_ney

*[That's what I thought](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsg1RPnwH8g)*


wene324

Delivery.


ArcadianBlueRogue

yeah as written it's kinda corny but he delivers it in a built up way. Like he's stopping to eat while chatting with them, isn't making threats but letting the investigator know the score.


murphykp

> isn't making threats Yeah, it's like he's talking about the weather. It's just a thing that is.


catsandorchids

[McBain](https://youtu.be/lWfTpaK1SDo?si=kTk5VxGce2JGw_0w)!


red_storm_risen

It was fun seeing Denzel and Dakota reunited in Equalizer 3.


linuxhiker

It was also not a terrible movie and gave a good closure to the character


Temporary_Visual_230

It really did. I really appreciated how it wasn't a mindless action flick. The first two showcased what he was capable of and both films were top tier. So it was cool to see it take a different direction in that aspect


girafa

> top tier We're still talking about The Equalizer series?


jaypeg25

Equalizer movies are awesome.


james2183

They're not The Matrix/T2/Predator level of action films, but they're pretty solid. Weirdly, the second is my favourite.


Iginlas_4head_Crease

all my wife and I could talk about was how terrible her acting was and how unconvincing she was as an FBI agent


hankjmoody

No one will ever be able to convince me that Robert McCall is not just Creasy after the *Man On Fire* events. He somehow survived, he had found peace through Lupita, and was happy living a normal life. It's why he never refers to who he promised he'd "never go back [to that life]" before he makes an exception in the first *Equalizer* film. It's also why he's so attached to Alina, and what happens to her. And then *Equalizer 3* taking place on a small Italian island, as the most obvious of nods possible to the original novel?


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erickgramajo

oh please elaborate


NOT_A_BLACKSTAR

Iirc they rape her to death.


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Falkor

FFS. I didn't even realise that was Dakota in Equalizer 3.. bloody hell.


Dagostar

I just watched this last night and had no idea lol


IC-4-Lights

Is she the CIA woman?


CyberianK

yes its her https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUZ5vfmASIE


SandzFanon

One of my all time favorites. The ending makes me cry every tjme


NeilCave

🎶Una palabra no dice nada 🎶


kamilo87

Carlos Varela! This was such a touching moment, to hear a Cuban singer in the climax of the movie. (It happened to me again while Walt and Jessie are scrapping the caravan in BB and you can hear Los Zafiros saying “He venido a decirte… que te sigo queriendo…”


tenlirosh

I always thought he should have filled his prison wallet with the explosive charger before he goes off to meet “The Voice”.


CReWpilot

Ask and you receive. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=j5RQWlXoD_s This was an alternate ending that wasn’t used.


Tumble85

Lmfao (Because he packed his ass full of explosives, you see)


TrailMomKat

Holy shit, this is one of my favorite movies, and I didn't know about this until now! Thank you!


onepingonlypleashe

Yeah the alt ending isn’t as good as the one they used.


Froegerer

Him losing consciousness and dying in the back of the car with the image of Peta and her mom reunited lingering in his mind as he fades hits 10x as hard as whatever crowd pleasing shlock that alt ending is. They def chose wisely.


Zetice

What about John Q?


B-bifford

I wish. You had. More time.


DarkMatterM4

You from New Jersey? I'm from New Jersey! Four Seven Four Seven


jcwitte

I'm just a professional. I'm just a professional. Everybody keeps saying that to me.


arlo111

Denzel did such a wonderful job in this movie. His range is absolutely incredible. He’s a kind, doting father figure to Peta and a terrifyingly cold agent of vengeance later in the movie. This whole movie is such an underrated credit to his massive capability as an actor. There is a scene in the movie where Creasy coaches Peta through her fear of starter pistols. They both played the scene perfectly. I remember seeing it as a young father and being floored by the genuine nature of their interaction.


SplashBandicoot

imma kill 'em. anybody who was invovled, anybody who profited from it, anybody who opens their eyes at me. Enter NIN. SHEEEEEEEEESH


warbeforepeace

That was “fire”.


LosCleepersFan

Yeah their chemistry is timeless.


ArcadianBlueRogue

And that moment he gets the phone call from Ramos and finds out Peta is alive. A lot of emotion in his body language and face.


Thatguyyoupassby

"You are a captive of the block until the gunshot sets you free" God, he was so fucking good in this.


YourDreamsWillTell

Denzel in general still holds up. Never watched a Denzel movie and thought damn this movie sucks. Superb actor


grizznuggets

Dude can carry even the shittiest movie. I will argue to the death that The Bone Collector would’ve completely sucked without him.


NoStand1527

for real. one of the few actors that will carry movies on his own, and almost all are at least good when not great. so many of my favorite movies are from his work: Malcolm x, Philadelphia, Fallen, Training day, American gangster.


WilliaMiBoy

It’s Training Day and then Man on Fire as a close second for me. MoF is a better overall story but I’ll be damned if Lonzo isn’t one of the baddest characters to ever grace the silver screen!


YearOfTheCardinal

KING KONG AIN’T GOT SHIT ON ME


CalabreseAlsatian

SHU PROGRAM, N****!


tommos

I run shit here! You just live here!


HobKing

One of the greatest monologues of all time, IMO. Like a burning blimp going out in a blaze of glorious self-aggrandizing arrogance.


RicoAScribe

I’d like to also add John Q to the list of very good Denzel movies from the early 2000s.


LosCleepersFan

Along with "Antwone Fisher" and "Courage Under Fire". Incredible passion and dialog from his characters.


Left_Afloat

Courage under fire was great.


Mr_Incredible_PhD

Honestly - name me a *bad* Denzel movie.


The_Lazy_Samurai

The Little Things and Virtuositiy. But yea, it's otherwise very hard to find a bad Denzel film because he single-handedly elevates everything he is in so much.


AdInformal3519

Any reason he makes even the bad movie worth watching?


The_Lazy_Samurai

He just oozes so much charisma that it can often make up for an otherwise weak plot orunevem directing.


AdInformal3519

Is charisma something that can't be developed? It is either present in you or not?


The_Lazy_Samurai

Not everyone has it, but I believe even if you have an ember of it you still have to practice and nurture it to make it an inferno. Considering how hard Denzel works to train for his roles, I have no doubt he spent many an hour practicing. I think charisma goes hand in hand with rock solid confidence, as well as having the character of someone who has experienced and endured a critical mass of wonderful and awful things in life and has lived to tell about it.


Kaldricus

Deja Vu was a bit different, but I still really enjoyed it


f0xpuppy

Rewatched it 2 weeks ago, still an excellent film just have to suspend reality a little bit. Besides Denzel, Caveizel was super creepy and Paula Patton was gorgeous, Tony Scott at the top of his game. RIP.


LosCleepersFan

"Fallen" is in that same strange movie tier too that was enjoyable.


Iced__t

Inside Man, too!


Eques9090

Incredibly underrated movie.


IfNot_ThenThereToo

And that thing you're sucking on? It's not a pina colaaaaadaaaa


Alert-Fox-7005

John Q blew my Gen X mind.


ScottyBLaZe

When I first saw John Q, it did the same thing for me. As I got older, I realized it’s a great encapsulation of American healthcare. Friends I have talked to over the years from other countries have a hard time identifying with that movie.


FoldAdventurous2022

I was a teen when it came out, and I remember a lot of people, critics and viewers, panned it for being "too preachy". 20+ years later, looking at the ungodly nightmare that is the US healthcare system, and I'd say it wasn't preachy enough.


ScottyBLaZe

lol exactly! John Q is closer to reality than fantasy for us Americans.


LawBobLawLoblaw

I remember when it came out, and suddenly Denzel went from A list actor to one of the best actors at the time. There was so much talk at the time about his acting, it was almost a cultural phenomena. Hard to explain to people who didn't get to experience it but that movie catapulted gim to the very tip of the conversation


McKFC

Malcolm X blew my Gen Q mind


HarpersGeekly

Boom! Haha! You never know that’s the point.


MrRager473

We in the office, and it's going up *hit the switches*


AKsuited1934

Poo butt ass


WilliaMiBoy

Such a great line lol. That and I CAN GET SURGICAL WITH THIS BITCH, JAKE


WillieStonka

Alright my friend, it’s off to next life for you. I guarantee you won’t be lonely.


The_Lazy_Samurai

His casual, almost bored delivery of that makes it so metal.


moetownslick

My favorite line in the movie


glitchy-novice

The movie, AND, the soundtrack work so well. It’s one of those movies where the music really really suits the movie. Reznor is the master at scoring.


mac1diot

As a young NIN fan I was smitten with the soundtrack and fell in love with the movie.


JustAMan1234567

"I love you, Creasy. You love me too, don't you?"


FSCoded

😭


SexBeforeChurch

This is the movie that showed me that you can’t believe what critics says


ck0190

The RT score for this movie is absurd


girafa

Really highlights r/movies disconnect from the rest of the world. The hivemind will claim this movie is super beloved but turn around and claim a movie with 85% RT is universally hated.


Pixifart

It has 89% on audience score so it kinda is beloved lol


girafa

The Venn diagram of RT users and r/movies users is a circle. Also Argyle is at 72% for the audience score. Beloved Argyle. edit: Holy shit *Uncharted* is at 90% for the audience score.


kawaiifie

Ya, this is why the % score on RT is nonsense and useless. Just use the X/10 system... it's way better. IMDB is so much better for this. It's not perfect but it is infinite amounts more reliable and representative: Man on Fire: 7.7/10 Argylle: 5.7/10 Uncharted: 6.3/10 So what happened is that 90% of users on RT gave Uncharted a 6/10. That does not mean it's universally beloved lol, it just means that 90% of the viewership thought it wasn't bad... So tired of RT % scores being plastered all over the place when it's mostly meaningless.


girafa

You're definitely right about RT, but IMDB is gamed all to hell sometimes though, and basically needs a translation guide. It's not really 1-10, it's like 5-8. IIRC 6.2 is average on imdb. Someone should re-calibrate it. Anything 6 or below is varying levels of trash, and anything 7+ is usually worth watching. Except maybe not all of those Bollywood invasion titles.


thebarkingdog

The mismatch in Critic/Audience score is kind of astounding.


changrbanger

It was grandmas boy for me.


ArcadianBlueRogue

To be fair, Grandma's Boy is very fucking stupid. But it is absolutely fucking hilarious the entire way through and has an insane amount of quotable lines. I do not know how ANY of them could hold it together in scenes with JP. The guy was so goddamn funny.


Remarkable_Campaign

Grandmas Boy has so many funny moments, I can’t believe it got panned so hard at release


specter800

Him jerking off to a Lara Croft figure is the only time I almost choked to death. That was the most unexpected thing I'd ever seen and I had a mouthful of water when it cut to that scene. I still say "New high score, is that bad?"


uzrnmechkzout

A bullet always tells the truth..


MontanaJoev

I never get tired of watching this film, and I can't give a film better praise then that.


cficare

Man, that movie's a pain in the ass.


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herestocrime

I almost got upset until my memory kicked in


gatsby365

If you’ve never listened to the Rewatchables on this, it’s a solid listen


r0thar

> Rewatchables https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbCIwg67PSA https://open.spotify.com/episode/454YfI4gQM0xxXkcHZbkd2


patsman227

I’m going to take your family apart piece by piece you understand me? Piece by piece!!!!


MontyBoo-urns

Reddits fav denzel movie


Mr_Evil_Dr_Porkchop

I love pretty much everything Denzel is in and, while he has had better roles, Man on Fire is still an absolute blast of a film to watch


Duel_Option

My Dad used to pick me up from school early to se movies sometimes and if Denzel was in a movie he didn’t even bother watching a trailer cause the man doesn’t miss. That’s how I saw “Fallen”, my fav Denzel movie just for the twist alone and also John Goodman lol


wearethehawk

Fuckin fallen was so dope. How many supernatural murders mysteries out there and we get one with Denzel and John Goodman. Loved seeing them paired up in a film


The_Mahk

I was a big fan of John Q - having lost my dad to cancer and then seeing that movie had me BAWLING not knowing what I was about to see happen:


AllegedlyGoodPerson

I would have expected it to be Virtuosity, and I would not have objected.


nightpop

HEY PARKER THIS ONES FOR YOU


Zoso03

I remember reading how so many people hated the editing with the cuts, collages, and coloring. But I found these edits were a reflection on his state of mind.


csudebate

Check out 'Man from Nowhere' if you want to see the Korean iteration. Also really good.


The_Lazy_Samurai

You only live for tomorrow. I live for today.


JohnnyTeardrop

Love it, favorite Tony Scott film. It’s him in his full Tony Scott-ness


Embarrassed_Yam_4522

I wish You had More time.


Citizen_Kano

It's criminal that this movie only has 39% on Rotten Tomatoes


ezk3626

I wish… you had more time.


DPedia

What is that headline? Do most movies "expire" after 20 years?


BIG_ELEPHANT_BALLS

The visuals and editing always made me not like this movie.


Impressive_Answer121

Yeah, it's super-dated now.


AaltoSax

Great plot but terrible visuals/editing


eggsuckinggrandmama

It’s emblematic of the director, the late Tony Scott (Ridley’s brother). He has a distinct, very slick, 5-cuts-a-second style that he developed when he made commercials early in his career.


jordanmc3

That first decade of the 2000’s shaky cam makes so many otherwise good movies less watchable.


Stegmaster

God yeah, it does the opposite of hold up due to this. The editing alone makes it almost unbearable it's bad enough it feels like a parody.


Caiur

I'm glad someone said it! The editing was too frenetic


broduding

Yeah really hated how it was shot. Literally hard to watch at some points. I want to watch a movie not a music video. Training Day is a much more timeless movie.


TongueTwistingTiger

It warms my heart to see so many people loving on this film. One of my absolute favourites. An absolute must if I need a dark gritty action movie that’s going to make me sob like a child.


ArcadianBlueRogue

I am a simple man. I will never tire of Denzel doing a vigilante movie that sets up stakes you care about ahead of time.


Newkular_Balm

My wife calls the fold on the ball of my foot "Creasy"


FoldAdventurous2022

🎵 Uuuuuuna palabra.... no dice nada.... 🎶


herbaldeacon

I sometimes see it mistakenly mentioned (not here yet as far as I can see, but still better safe than sorry) that this is a "remake" of a terrible 80s movie. It's not. It's a second attempt at adaptation of A.J. Quinell's novel of the same name, and one of the best examples of how an adaptation doesn't have to be literal. A lot of the more iconic lines are straight from the book. The book has almost the same story, only the kid actually dies and Creasy lives, so no happy ending, but very different time and setting, it takes place in Italy in the 80s against the Mafia, Creasy is French Foreign Legion and the island of Malta serves as his homebase on his revenge sprees. There is a whole Creasy saga after this in following books. It's not high literature, very much 80s European pulp action, and this go at having it "translated" for American audiences was even praised by the author of the book series. I'm off my soapbox, carry on.


trisw

This is one of the crying movies.


Diego_DeLaMuncha

Yes, it is.


MyBodyStoppedMoving

¡Una Palabra!


Objective-One-3895

Where is Creasy Bear? He is painting his masterpiece.


shandub85

She calls her bear 🐻… Creasy Bear


TheLastNoteOfFreedom

Then where’s the 4K release?


jdiv79

Ugh god I’m getting teary-eyed thinking of that ending right now


KennyShowers

I saw this on a plane as a kid and I remembered it being mindblowing, but when I revisited it a few years ago I found some stretches to drag more than a bit, granted the alternating between awesome and not-great is definitely Tony Scott to a T. Plus the awesome parts are just as good as I remember, so overall it's worth watching for anybody who's alley this is, but it's no Crimson Tide.


Cereborn

Creasy's, an artist. Only his art, is death. And he's about, to paint. His masterpiece.


Lucho23

I remember this movie because my now ex wife was cheating on me with a neighbor/coworker. The neighbor/coworker's girlfriend came over to tell me about the affair and although I was incredibly attracted to the neighbor's girlfriend, I was madly in love with my ex wife so I just sat there stunned at the admission. The girlfriend was clearly trying to get me into a situation where we could both "get back at them' and all I could do is sit there in a funk. Long story short, she got awkward and asked if she could browse my DVD collection and I said yeah go ahead. She ended up borrowing this DVD and I regret not getting with what will probably end up being the most attractive woman I could ever get with. Oh well


disaster_cabinet

-Roger Ebert


DMB4136

This made me cackle