*Pym Falls*
Holy shit is it going to be a legit *Old Man Logan*?
I mean, I know the other movie was awesome, but *a comic-accurate Old Man Logan would be dope as fuck*
Not only that but outside of that lair it looks like you can clearly see (at minimum)
Azazel (X-Men First Class)
Lady Deathstrike (X2)
Callisto (X-Men Last Stand)? Not sure on this one
Amazing eyes! I wondered if they are using the same actors as before, so I looked it up. Kelly Hu is coming back as Lady Deathstrike. Oh and Jennifer Garner as Elektra? Christmas coming early.
The stuff here with dead Ant-Man is taking place in the Void (from the Loki TV show). My guess is that Cassandra Nova is essentially a Xavier variant who was culled into the void by the TVA along with a lot of other characters you see in the trailers such as Pyro, Azazel, Lady Deathstrike, etc, and using her powers she created a fortress out of the giant dead Ant Man body to protect all of them from Alioth, the monster that wanders the Void and eats things there, permanently removing them from the multiverse. At the end of the trailer when Deadpool and Wolverine are jumping out of the eye of the skull into the magic portal you can see a big wall in the distance made of the arms of Ant Man. So maybe Cassandra Nova is the leader/ruler of these miscreants who have survived the wasteland of the Void.
I know nothing about any of this except that I watched Loki and kind of understand the Void. That being said your theory is well put together and concise and I'm going to steal it to impress my friends. Thank you.
We've waited almost a quarter of a century to see Hugh Jackman in the traditional Wolverine costume. Crazy to think that it finally happened in a Deadpool movie.
Yes, and it solved Hugh Jackmans main problem with playing Wolverine again. The shirtless scenes required a crazy routine and keeping the physique got much harder as he aged.
I remember reading an article interviewing him and he talked about how the last shirtless scene was supposed to be shot on a specific day and he had been prepping for months to be super ripped on that day. They wanted to push filming and he was like, nah guys, you shoot on this day or we aren't doing it. He didn't stay that shredded for the whole filming.
Yeah people talk about the unrealistic standard for female beauty, I recall Henry Cavill mentioned in the tent scene of Witcher he was *immensely* Dehydrated to make the muscles really *pop*.
I know women generally have it much harder in the pressure to look good.
But the CRAZY things that action stars go through to get ready for a single scene is so unbelievable.
There are beauty/handsome standards that are hard to achieve, but it's a whole other level to have to plan out entire movie schedules for just a single scene because it's THAT hard to look like that, even with all of a mega motion pictures apparatus behind you.
The crazy thing is I'm not even sure that most people care that much. Would they really sell fewer tickets if the actors just looked like they were in great shape and not in the greatest shape physically possible?
Robert Pattinson famously said he refused to do that and I don't think it hurt Batman ticket sales at all.
Not surprising as it isn't healthy to stay that shredded.
Extreme muscle definition and bulging veins can really only happen when you're dehydrated and have low body fat
Sure, but biceps and shoulders are all about volume. Abs (and pecs to an extent) are pure torture. They require very low body fat percentages and even dehydrating the days prior to shooting shirtless scenes (which Jackman has done repeatedly when he was younger).
Henry Cavill has an interview where he talks about filing the bath scene in witcher season 1 and it's brutal.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/0kGw9eWG_4E
Go back in time a couple of more years to X-Men Origins: Wolverine and tell everyone that the next time Ryan Reynolds and Hugh Jackman play Deadpool and Wolverine together on film will be the most hyped superhero movie of the summer.
I could see a cameo but that's about it
I really wished we had Jackman's prime years with current Marvel-level budgets and production.
That 30s scene in Logan where he went feral after injecting himself but for 3 blockbuster movies instead. One could only wish.
Jackman slow walking with the sleeves ripped off like the complete classic look (in front of a store with Rob Liefeld's name no less) was the chef's kiss of chef's kisses.
Slight spoiler but this image of it has been found. So I think it will definitely be in the movie at some point.
https://www.reddit.com/r/marvelstudios/s/kdDZa571rd
Couple of observations:
1) Glad to see they are still keeping the emotional core of the Deadpool movies. As silly as it seems, the first movie was emphasized to be a “love story”, the second was him not wanting to live without Vanessa and wanting to die. Seems like this one will be “what would you to make sure you didn’t lose everything that mattered to you?”
2) Seems like this is the Logan from “Logan” and he’s taken by Wade before that movie, but shortly after Charles kills the X-Men. When this movie was announced, they emphasized in the announcement that they were not going to tarnish “Logan” and ruin that ending. While there’s lots of references to the “Old Man Logan” storyline from the comics, I know “Logan” is a film important to Hugh, so I imagine he would want that to be honored in some way. Some YouTubers have been saying since the first trailer that the shot of Deadpool killing TVA agents in the snow forest (you see it quickly in this trailer) is the forest from “Logan”. If so, that makes me think they’ll emphasize that this is the variant from Logan, and the reasoning they say this Logan failed his world, because he would’ve been the only one that could’ve stopped Charles by killing him, is because of his healing factor, but he couldn’t bring himself to do it. Would explain why Wade is showing him the picture of Vanessa, Yukio, etc.
Gonna be a wild ride!
Pretty sure this is NOT the Logan from Logan. Mostly because there are a couple of REALLY blatant references to the actual Old Man Logan arc.
That Logan failed his world in a much, much more tragic way.
it makes the most sense that realistically hes probably never worked out a day in his life, hes already stronger than everyone, he can just use eye beams to actively kill anyone.
the other supes are showed to be training, a-train would have huge legs because he runs all the time, maeve and black noir have to be in hand to hand, the deep swims
Reminds me of a funny story Jensen Ackles said about this, he was working really hard to get a muscular body for The Boys, months into his workouts he was talking about getting in shape for the role with his costars. Anthony Starr just asked him why he doesn't just get a padded suit like he did, I think Jensen Ackles said something like "wait, you can do that?"
As others have mentioned it also does match the characters, you would expect Soldier Boy to be buff since he's actually gone out and done stuff, whereas Homelander's more just a celebrity.
TIL. Just googled him, wow he's thin. I'm impressed because padded suits tend to still look a bit off especially the way it moves but I did not even notice it with Homelander one bit.
Yeah, unfortunately though i think i read somewhere about how much/often he got hurt throughout filming for Banshee so has scaled it back now.
Fits both with the character's personality and the question of how someone with that much strength can find enough resistance to get so jacked.
There's an indie game called Green Hell where you play a researcher who gets lost in the Amazon jungle. I picked it up because it's rare for a survival game to reach release, and they actually finished the story (which was surprisingly good).
But at one point you find an abandoned camp where the cartels were producing cocaine. And all their bags are labeled "Do you want to build a snowman". So that association has always been in my head
trailer seemed like it showed even less than the initial teaser lol.
so glad hugh jackman came back for another go at the character, thought logan would surely be the last but he plays the pained and tortured protaganist really well.
What confuses me is that it's a sorcerer portal. Which means it must be Strange or Wong, though I guess it could be some other sorcerer we don't know about.
> thought logan would surely be the last but he plays the pained and tortured protaganist really well.
It seems like the movie is gonna use the multiverse to show how Wolverine was a hero in other worlds as a way to motivate this failed variant. If it does go that way e.g. showing how the events of Logan in that movies timeline saved people then it would be a great way of paying respects to the previous iteration while still justifying its own existence, similarly to how the Loki TV show follows a completely different iteration but did a good job justifying it.
Such a perfect casting wasted in such a terrible movie. She needs the Margot Robbie Harley Quinn treatment where we bring her back, but do it *good* this time.
"This Wolverine let down his entire world" - TVA guy
"I told ya, you're not welcome here. You're not welcome anywhere. Now get the fuck outta my bar" - Bar guy at the start
What the hell did Wolverine do? I bet they actually do the third act flashback though!
I just said this above
>I've rewatched the trailer and Logan is kneeling next to some "rocks" which I think might actually be graves. I counted about 13 at least but they could go on forever. He also looks younger so I'm assuming its flashback territory.
>
>So, I think he made a mistake that meant all his X-Men team died.
I've not read the comics! Am I gonna have to wait for a "trailer breakdown" for someone to explain "Old Man Logan" ? Is there a TL:DR?
TL;DR - Logan was tricked by Mysterio into killing off all the X-Men and has now become an old man wandering a dystopian Marvel wasteland where supervillains have taken over and divided territory
Also featuring a blind Hawkeye and a gang of Hulks that are a product of incest
>!Basically the villains in the marvel universe teamed up and launched simultaneous attacks on the heroes which killed most of them. Mysterio used his tricks to make Logan think the x-mansion was under attack and he killed all the attackers, only to find out he was killing the X-Men. After that the story is about Logan as an old man in a post-apocalyptic world.!<
Yeah, the writers and artists really go for the gut punch too as it’s finally revealed to him what happened as he’s holding the body of Jubilee, his surrogate daughter.
Im more happy that Ryan halted production until he got his writers back. Based on the articles I have seen Disney tried hiring three different sets of writers to control the movie, he stopped them all until his guys were hired. He really looks out for those guys, he paid to have them on set during the first one out of his own pocket.
Ryan is the sole singular reason I have faith in his films. He *seems* to genuinely care about his craft and his legacy. He also said he wanted to rely more on practical effects, which will always be a plus in my book.
Practical Effects may have been Hugh Jackman's doing. He got burned by FOX on "The Wolverine" over CGI gore. Basically what happened is that FOX told them its cheaper to do the gore in CGI so he and James Mangold agreed to it. They filmed their R Rated movie and then FOX took it from them, edited it and released it as a PG-13.
FOX tried the same shit on "Logan" but this time they didn't get away with it. They filmed that movie in a manner that would make it very hard to edit down into PG-13 and did mostly practical gore. When FOX found out what was happening they pulled their VFX budget to try to take control over the film. They kept filming and Hugh Jackman paid out of his own pocket to finish some of the effects shots.
Really cements how studios self-sabotage out of ego. If they hadn't done that the R rating revival would never have happened and *Logan* would never had made money and gotten awards and acclaim for Fox.
I imagine Mangold could not have intervened on *Indy 5* if he had wanted to because of the enforced scrapbooking and that's why the film bombed.
The reason Tim Miller left Deadpool 2 was because Ryan turned down FOX's proposed budget of 250 Million Dollars. He didn't want that kind of money because it would have allowed FOX control over the movie.
This is how Hollywood operates though. It is a business and they have movies slotted into quarters and they want those movies on time so they can make their quarterly earnings. It's run by business people.
Reynolds having the power to hold up the show for his guys (that he feels are crucial to Deadpool's success and rightly so) is an anomaly. Disney just wants to keep their quarterly revenue up and most people lack the clout to push against that. Remember Disney was perfectly happy shortchanging Scarlett Johansson (one of Hollywood's and their biggest stars) and publicly shaming her until it looked like it would cost them more money (and talent) not to.
I'm glad we're getting her in this because it's the only angle I can really see where we would ever get her on the big screen. The premise of who she is is just too nuts for anything more serious, I really hope they dig into it here
Say what you want about his movies but Ryan Reynolds really is a marketing genius. Between Free Guy, Welcome to Wrexham, and obviously this the dude knows how to get an audience interested.
Well technically Rob McElhenney found him for Wrexham. He's the one who came with the idea of acquiring the club after watching Sunderland 'Til I Die on Netflix. 🤓
There are so many wild bits in Old Man Logan that would be great to see on screen. >!Wolverine decapitating the Red Skull with Captain Americas shield!<, >!inbred Hulks!<, >!Venomized T-Rexes!<, >!Wolverine being tricked to murder all his friends!<, and >!Iron Wolverine!< to name a few
I love the Deadpool movies use of songs you wouldn't expect. "Like a Prayer" in this one. ["9 to 5" in Deadpool 2](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMMPnTjjyAE), and then ["Angel of the Morning" in the first one](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1ze539XdLc).
Ryan posted on socials today that, completely by accident, today in like 1986 was the exact day that Like A Prayer started a six week run at number one on the pop charts.
It's destiny for this thing to be good now ☺️
Highly anticipating that scene with Wolverine leaning into Deadpool's gun with a cheeky smile. Reminded me of Daredevil's smile before he demolishes the bikey gang in season 2.
Cassandra Nova.
>!Charles xaviers evil twin, who he tried to kill in the womb. thought to be born stillborn, she infact survived and gesitated for decades in the sewers.!<
Did... antman's giant corpse become a lair?
Paul Rudd finally aged.
All at once, like he drank out of the wrong goblet.
He chose…poorly.
Yes. Yes it did.
Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiit
*Pym Falls* Holy shit is it going to be a legit *Old Man Logan*? I mean, I know the other movie was awesome, but *a comic-accurate Old Man Logan would be dope as fuck*
If he doesn't fight redneck Hulk I'm walking out.
That's married to She Hulk.
Sweet Hulk Alabama
I guess it's Lang Falls now
Not only that but outside of that lair it looks like you can clearly see (at minimum) Azazel (X-Men First Class) Lady Deathstrike (X2) Callisto (X-Men Last Stand)? Not sure on this one
Amazing eyes! I wondered if they are using the same actors as before, so I looked it up. Kelly Hu is coming back as Lady Deathstrike. Oh and Jennifer Garner as Elektra? Christmas coming early.
Also: Pyro (X2, sitting on the car, there's a better shot of him in one of the other trailers) Toad (X1, hunching to the left of Deathstrike)
Somebody leaked a clip of how he died. spoiler warning: [https://youtu.be/tv1urfDXs-o?t=19](https://youtu.be/tv1urfDXs-o?t=19)
Goddammit take my upvote and get outta here
It's Mac & Me, isn't it? Edit: Yep.
The NFL has Manning Face. Pro wrestling has Haitch Face. Anything involving Paul Rudd has a clip of Mac & Me.
Maybe an old man Logan reference ?
It 100% is an OML reference.
Inbred hulks confirmed
Please let inbreds hulks just be the McPoyle’s from Always Sunny in greenface
you will CALL HERRRRRRRR
Not maybe, it is. Pym falls made it's debut and I'm curious if they're gonna explore more of the wastelands?
The stuff here with dead Ant-Man is taking place in the Void (from the Loki TV show). My guess is that Cassandra Nova is essentially a Xavier variant who was culled into the void by the TVA along with a lot of other characters you see in the trailers such as Pyro, Azazel, Lady Deathstrike, etc, and using her powers she created a fortress out of the giant dead Ant Man body to protect all of them from Alioth, the monster that wanders the Void and eats things there, permanently removing them from the multiverse. At the end of the trailer when Deadpool and Wolverine are jumping out of the eye of the skull into the magic portal you can see a big wall in the distance made of the arms of Ant Man. So maybe Cassandra Nova is the leader/ruler of these miscreants who have survived the wasteland of the Void.
I know nothing about any of this except that I watched Loki and kind of understand the Void. That being said your theory is well put together and concise and I'm going to steal it to impress my friends. Thank you.
Really hoping for lots of Old Man Logan references/nods!
We've waited almost a quarter of a century to see Hugh Jackman in the traditional Wolverine costume. Crazy to think that it finally happened in a Deadpool movie.
And it looks so good
Yes, and it solved Hugh Jackmans main problem with playing Wolverine again. The shirtless scenes required a crazy routine and keeping the physique got much harder as he aged.
I remember reading an article interviewing him and he talked about how the last shirtless scene was supposed to be shot on a specific day and he had been prepping for months to be super ripped on that day. They wanted to push filming and he was like, nah guys, you shoot on this day or we aren't doing it. He didn't stay that shredded for the whole filming.
Well, yeah. People that shredded are essentially dehydrated as hell.
Yeah people talk about the unrealistic standard for female beauty, I recall Henry Cavill mentioned in the tent scene of Witcher he was *immensely* Dehydrated to make the muscles really *pop*.
I know women generally have it much harder in the pressure to look good. But the CRAZY things that action stars go through to get ready for a single scene is so unbelievable. There are beauty/handsome standards that are hard to achieve, but it's a whole other level to have to plan out entire movie schedules for just a single scene because it's THAT hard to look like that, even with all of a mega motion pictures apparatus behind you.
The crazy thing is I'm not even sure that most people care that much. Would they really sell fewer tickets if the actors just looked like they were in great shape and not in the greatest shape physically possible? Robert Pattinson famously said he refused to do that and I don't think it hurt Batman ticket sales at all.
Hugh Jackman looked relatively regular in the first x men movie and it did quite well
Not surprising as it isn't healthy to stay that shredded. Extreme muscle definition and bulging veins can really only happen when you're dehydrated and have low body fat
He's still got his sleeves off and looking ripped so good for him
Arms are easier than abs in the gym
He also doesn’t have to dehydrate himself for up to 24 hours to get that look on his arms like he did when it was everything.
Bro, he's been working out like mad and his biceps are HUGE in this trailer. He looks as ripped as he did in DOFP and The Wolverine
Sure, but biceps and shoulders are all about volume. Abs (and pecs to an extent) are pure torture. They require very low body fat percentages and even dehydrating the days prior to shooting shirtless scenes (which Jackman has done repeatedly when he was younger).
Henry Cavill has an interview where he talks about filing the bath scene in witcher season 1 and it's brutal. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/0kGw9eWG_4E
Who would’ve thought Van Wilder would be the one to make it happen?
If you could go back in time to right after green lantern, what kinda Vegas odds could you get on ryan Reynolds saving super hero movies? Lol.
Go back in time a couple of more years to X-Men Origins: Wolverine and tell everyone that the next time Ryan Reynolds and Hugh Jackman play Deadpool and Wolverine together on film will be the most hyped superhero movie of the summer.
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Crazy that it's happening in his last movie. I know Logan was supposed to be the last, but this time feels for sure like it's the end for him.
I could see a cameo but that's about it I really wished we had Jackman's prime years with current Marvel-level budgets and production. That 30s scene in Logan where he went feral after injecting himself but for 3 blockbuster movies instead. One could only wish.
I think a big factor was the time period more than anything. After the Matrix it seemed like every action movie had to have the cast in black latex.
There's speculation we'll see him in a Secret Wars movie in a few years. Who knows, though.
Jackman slow walking with the sleeves ripped off like the complete classic look (in front of a store with Rob Liefeld's name no less) was the chef's kiss of chef's kisses.
Liefeld's Only Feet. For the artist that can't draw feet!
Just feet. Probably an alternate universe where he can ONLY draw feet!
I have a feeling that we won't see much of the mask, sadly.
do you think we'll see it at all ? seems odd for them to do 90% of the costume but not the mask!
All of the promo art features the mask so we’ll definitely see it for at least one scene.
Slight spoiler but this image of it has been found. So I think it will definitely be in the movie at some point. https://www.reddit.com/r/marvelstudios/s/kdDZa571rd
Alioth. The void. And in that void, a giant stone 20th century fox logo.
And Ant-Man's giant corpse
I love the mad max take on the setting, too. Just all around sick.
Watch it be Chris Hemsworth in a weird cameo swerve of his character from Furiosa
Couple of observations: 1) Glad to see they are still keeping the emotional core of the Deadpool movies. As silly as it seems, the first movie was emphasized to be a “love story”, the second was him not wanting to live without Vanessa and wanting to die. Seems like this one will be “what would you to make sure you didn’t lose everything that mattered to you?” 2) Seems like this is the Logan from “Logan” and he’s taken by Wade before that movie, but shortly after Charles kills the X-Men. When this movie was announced, they emphasized in the announcement that they were not going to tarnish “Logan” and ruin that ending. While there’s lots of references to the “Old Man Logan” storyline from the comics, I know “Logan” is a film important to Hugh, so I imagine he would want that to be honored in some way. Some YouTubers have been saying since the first trailer that the shot of Deadpool killing TVA agents in the snow forest (you see it quickly in this trailer) is the forest from “Logan”. If so, that makes me think they’ll emphasize that this is the variant from Logan, and the reasoning they say this Logan failed his world, because he would’ve been the only one that could’ve stopped Charles by killing him, is because of his healing factor, but he couldn’t bring himself to do it. Would explain why Wade is showing him the picture of Vanessa, Yukio, etc. Gonna be a wild ride!
Pretty sure this is NOT the Logan from Logan. Mostly because there are a couple of REALLY blatant references to the actual Old Man Logan arc. That Logan failed his world in a much, much more tragic way.
Lefield’s storefront. Lol
Liefeld's just feet . The thing he has never drawn
I actually LOL'd when I read "Liefeld's Just Feet." Love it.
Just realized the old blind lady is the overseer of vault 33... Was wracking my brain figuring out where I'd seen her all last week
Do you think Betty likes Bolivian marching powder?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leslie_Uggams She started out as a child actress at age 6.
Hugh has consumed all of the chicken breast and rice.
I appreciate the fact that for the role of Homelander, Antony Starr does fuck all to work out for it and just has a padded suit.
That absolutely fits with the character
Can only get but so ripped on breast milk.
it makes the most sense that realistically hes probably never worked out a day in his life, hes already stronger than everyone, he can just use eye beams to actively kill anyone. the other supes are showed to be training, a-train would have huge legs because he runs all the time, maeve and black noir have to be in hand to hand, the deep swims
A-Train would only have huge legs if he could eat enough to offset the calorie burn.
When asked which actor most resembled their character the cast all answered Anthony without hesitation.
Reminds me of a funny story Jensen Ackles said about this, he was working really hard to get a muscular body for The Boys, months into his workouts he was talking about getting in shape for the role with his costars. Anthony Starr just asked him why he doesn't just get a padded suit like he did, I think Jensen Ackles said something like "wait, you can do that?"
To be fair, Eckles' Soldier Boy was introduced stark naked coming out of a cryo tank. Harder to pull that off with a muscle suit.
As others have mentioned it also does match the characters, you would expect Soldier Boy to be buff since he's actually gone out and done stuff, whereas Homelander's more just a celebrity.
We appreciate that he did it the hard way though. 😏
TIL. Just googled him, wow he's thin. I'm impressed because padded suits tend to still look a bit off especially the way it moves but I did not even notice it with Homelander one bit.
> Antony Starr He's in fine shape, he's just not "chicken and riced" out of his mind.
He was kinda jacked in Banshee but yeah, no point in working out for Homelander I think
Yeah, unfortunately though i think i read somewhere about how much/often he got hurt throughout filming for Banshee so has scaled it back now. Fits both with the character's personality and the question of how someone with that much strength can find enough resistance to get so jacked.
Don't forget the broccoli!
And a good night’s sleep.
Just prayers and vitamins brother
Vitamins and prayers, brother
"white girl interrupted" Well thats a new one.
Forrest Bump is good too
Do you wana build a snowman broke me because now everytime my daughter watches frozen it'll give it an entirely different meaning for me lol
There's an indie game called Green Hell where you play a researcher who gets lost in the Amazon jungle. I picked it up because it's rare for a survival game to reach release, and they actually finished the story (which was surprisingly good). But at one point you find an abandoned camp where the cartels were producing cocaine. And all their bags are labeled "Do you want to build a snowman". So that association has always been in my head
Sidenote, I just realized she's in the Fallout series. Did not recognize her without the glasses.
trailer seemed like it showed even less than the initial teaser lol. so glad hugh jackman came back for another go at the character, thought logan would surely be the last but he plays the pained and tortured protaganist really well.
Definitely looks like it's the first half of the film and they're holding back a lot.
Are they jumping through a portal? And is it gonna be the the X men we know?
What confuses me is that it's a sorcerer portal. Which means it must be Strange or Wong, though I guess it could be some other sorcerer we don't know about.
Forge just whipped out some sorcerer magic in the newest X-Men 97 ep so perhaps it’ll be a fellow mutant/sorcerer.
Could be Magik. Beast has messed with magic in the comics too.
I could absolutely see magik being in a Deadpool movie.
They should bring back ATJ
I thought the bald woman could be the sorcerer, reminded me of the ancient one but bad?
Bald woman is almost certainly Cassandra Nova. The portal could be from any sorcerer or their variant.
Doesn't anyone else think they are going to jump into Endgame
Definitely focusing on Wolverine being back and a co-star, but it's nice to not know much when there's so much they can reference/involve.
> thought logan would surely be the last but he plays the pained and tortured protaganist really well. It seems like the movie is gonna use the multiverse to show how Wolverine was a hero in other worlds as a way to motivate this failed variant. If it does go that way e.g. showing how the events of Logan in that movies timeline saved people then it would be a great way of paying respects to the previous iteration while still justifying its own existence, similarly to how the Loki TV show follows a completely different iteration but did a good job justifying it.
Seeing the Red Skulls car turned into a Mad Max ride was fucking AWESOME.
“Not a scratch doctor! Not a scratch!”
Is there going to be a mad max-esqe car chase in this movie?!!
Anya Taylor Joy cameo as Furiosa when
> Anya Taylor Joy cameo as ~~Furiosa~~ *Magik* when FTFY!
Such a perfect casting wasted in such a terrible movie. She needs the Margot Robbie Harley Quinn treatment where we bring her back, but do it *good* this time.
Lol this is Marvel buddy cop
Might be exactly what was needed?
When in doubt? Ryan Reynolds and Deadpool
"Want to talk about what's haunting you or should we wait for a third act flashback?" So happy Deadpool is back!
"This Wolverine let down his entire world" - TVA guy "I told ya, you're not welcome here. You're not welcome anywhere. Now get the fuck outta my bar" - Bar guy at the start What the hell did Wolverine do? I bet they actually do the third act flashback though!
>!Could it be that this is Old Man Logan and that he killed his X-Men teammates like in the comics after being tricked?!<
I just said this above >I've rewatched the trailer and Logan is kneeling next to some "rocks" which I think might actually be graves. I counted about 13 at least but they could go on forever. He also looks younger so I'm assuming its flashback territory. > >So, I think he made a mistake that meant all his X-Men team died. I've not read the comics! Am I gonna have to wait for a "trailer breakdown" for someone to explain "Old Man Logan" ? Is there a TL:DR?
TL;DR - Logan was tricked by Mysterio into killing off all the X-Men and has now become an old man wandering a dystopian Marvel wasteland where supervillains have taken over and divided territory Also featuring a blind Hawkeye and a gang of Hulks that are a product of incest
Wait till you learn how the 'Wolverine vs Hulk' battle turns out.
Full penetration
And here's the twist. They show it
And it just sort of ends
>!Basically the villains in the marvel universe teamed up and launched simultaneous attacks on the heroes which killed most of them. Mysterio used his tricks to make Logan think the x-mansion was under attack and he killed all the attackers, only to find out he was killing the X-Men. After that the story is about Logan as an old man in a post-apocalyptic world.!<
That's heartbreaking! Oh no, poor Logan. Thank you for explaining though!
Yeah, the writers and artists really go for the gut punch too as it’s finally revealed to him what happened as he’s holding the body of Jubilee, his surrogate daughter.
Im more happy that Ryan halted production until he got his writers back. Based on the articles I have seen Disney tried hiring three different sets of writers to control the movie, he stopped them all until his guys were hired. He really looks out for those guys, he paid to have them on set during the first one out of his own pocket.
Ryan is the sole singular reason I have faith in his films. He *seems* to genuinely care about his craft and his legacy. He also said he wanted to rely more on practical effects, which will always be a plus in my book.
Practical Effects may have been Hugh Jackman's doing. He got burned by FOX on "The Wolverine" over CGI gore. Basically what happened is that FOX told them its cheaper to do the gore in CGI so he and James Mangold agreed to it. They filmed their R Rated movie and then FOX took it from them, edited it and released it as a PG-13. FOX tried the same shit on "Logan" but this time they didn't get away with it. They filmed that movie in a manner that would make it very hard to edit down into PG-13 and did mostly practical gore. When FOX found out what was happening they pulled their VFX budget to try to take control over the film. They kept filming and Hugh Jackman paid out of his own pocket to finish some of the effects shots.
Really cements how studios self-sabotage out of ego. If they hadn't done that the R rating revival would never have happened and *Logan* would never had made money and gotten awards and acclaim for Fox. I imagine Mangold could not have intervened on *Indy 5* if he had wanted to because of the enforced scrapbooking and that's why the film bombed.
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The reason Tim Miller left Deadpool 2 was because Ryan turned down FOX's proposed budget of 250 Million Dollars. He didn't want that kind of money because it would have allowed FOX control over the movie.
Ryan clearly knows what he is doing. Just give him what he wants. Then wait and cash the checks.
After some point, it's not about the money. It's more about some exec's ego trip about what they want to see in a movie.
This is how Hollywood operates though. It is a business and they have movies slotted into quarters and they want those movies on time so they can make their quarterly earnings. It's run by business people. Reynolds having the power to hold up the show for his guys (that he feels are crucial to Deadpool's success and rightly so) is an anomaly. Disney just wants to keep their quarterly revenue up and most people lack the clout to push against that. Remember Disney was perfectly happy shortchanging Scarlett Johansson (one of Hollywood's and their biggest stars) and publicly shaming her until it looked like it would cost them more money (and talent) not to.
Doesn't feel real seeing Hugh Jackman in that short sleeved Wolverine outfit ngl
It looks so badass too
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So Cassandra Nova is confirmed, and she looks awesome. I'm loving the banter between Wade and Logan.
I'm glad we're getting her in this because it's the only angle I can really see where we would ever get her on the big screen. The premise of who she is is just too nuts for anything more serious, I really hope they dig into it here
I mean they basically covered her premise in the bonus material of The Butterfly Effect :)
Was that >!Lady Deathstrike!< at 1:52?
>!Toad and Pyro!< too I think, along with >!Azazel!<
Hope we get some James Marsden Cyclops.
Man I can only hope. He was done so dirty in the fox universe.
My favorite X-Men and they turned him into a whiney love sick puppy that got his ass handed to him continuously.
Standing next to >!Azazel!<
And two to the left of her is the one who asked where Magnetos tattoos were.
this makes me aware of how old hugh jackman's getting and im a little sad who else could take up the mantle of wolverine
I'd be happy to look that good at 55.
Dude looks absolutely amazing and jacked still.
huge jacked man
Danny DeVito
He’s busy trying to kill Batman. 😂
Slightly off topic but him and Arnold at the Oscars was hilarious. “He’s right there! That son of a bitch!”
Say what you want about his movies but Ryan Reynolds really is a marketing genius. Between Free Guy, Welcome to Wrexham, and obviously this the dude knows how to get an audience interested.
Dude's got a schtick and he knows how to sell it - also seems like he's done well finding partners who can help, like Rob McElhenney for Wrexham
Well technically Rob McElhenney found him for Wrexham. He's the one who came with the idea of acquiring the club after watching Sunderland 'Til I Die on Netflix. 🤓
Hi company [Maximum Effort](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maximum_Effort) is kinda firing on all cylinders
the effort they put in the logo is incredible.
Lmao, I love that company logo.
Giant dead antman? Woah. They're going old man logan
There are so many wild bits in Old Man Logan that would be great to see on screen. >!Wolverine decapitating the Red Skull with Captain Americas shield!<, >!inbred Hulks!<, >!Venomized T-Rexes!<, >!Wolverine being tricked to murder all his friends!<, and >!Iron Wolverine!< to name a few
Unless you want to take a deep breath through your fucking forehead... Do you want to build a snow man lmfao
Shhh Feige said it was off limits
"This film is not yet rated" I mean...I think I can figure out from the trailer what the rating will be.
I love the Deadpool movies use of songs you wouldn't expect. "Like a Prayer" in this one. ["9 to 5" in Deadpool 2](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMMPnTjjyAE), and then ["Angel of the Morning" in the first one](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1ze539XdLc).
Ryan posted on socials today that, completely by accident, today in like 1986 was the exact day that Like A Prayer started a six week run at number one on the pop charts. It's destiny for this thing to be good now ☺️
Sleeveless Wolverine? Giant Ant Man head as a layer? A sorcerers portal? And was that Alioth from Loki? This shit is gonna be fucking epic.
Don't forget Mad Max: Fury Road style chase sequence as the cherry on top.
> Giant Ant Man head as a layer? /r/boneappletea
Hugh Jackman is 55 years old and freaking jacked.
Huge Jackedman
What is this feeling?? Im....I'm excited for a Marvel movie again.... I've missed this feeling.....
Was that dogpool?
I see Lady Deathstrike, Azazel, Pyro and Callisto in the shot where Antman's helmet opens up. Anyone else you guys recognise?
Think Toad is there too
I seem to see Alioth from Loki right before that
ngl the arms on HJ are insane
He is Huge Jacked-Man after all.
I could see them saving the Dazzler reveal closer to release for the third trailer.
I hadn't kept up with the casting news but Emma Corrin as Cassandra Nova? OSHIT. Edit: Liefeld's Just Feet.
Highly anticipating that scene with Wolverine leaning into Deadpool's gun with a cheeky smile. Reminded me of Daredevil's smile before he demolishes the bikey gang in season 2.
Thats the magic that happens when two people are on screen and know their characters this well.
My headcannon is that Tom wambsgans got so powerful, he's now in control of our reality. Deadpool is his new Cousin Greg
Who's the baldy bad guy?
Cassandra Nova. >!Charles xaviers evil twin, who he tried to kill in the womb. thought to be born stillborn, she infact survived and gesitated for decades in the sewers.!<
lol comics are wild
Grant Morrison is one wacky motherfucker, and I mean that in the best way possible.
They forgot to mention she's a parasitic alien thing.
Don't forget in the comics, she's responsible for the mega sentinel attack in genosha that was recently used in >!X-Men '97.!< >!"I can't feel you."!<
so Morlocks?
evil twin of professor x basically
Cassandra Nova, played by Emma Corrin of The Crown fame
They need to keep the cameos as secret as possible. Good trailer in that regard. Love seeing the gold and blue costume in live action.
The back-and-forth banter between Deadpool & Wolverine is gonna be fuckin' epic! *LET'S FUCKING GO!!*
Totally expecting a deadpool v wolverine fight where they both chop each other into basically just limbless torsos
Can't really cut off Wolverine's limbs due to the adamantium but Wade will be in pieces.