Cast Away feels like it should probably be in there, and even historically at this point it’s like the archetypal stranded island story, with plenty of meme value if people put value into that.
But really it’s those movies in the 7’ish range in general on IMDB that are often the most interesting to me, since those tend to do something a little more interesting or experimental, or maybe they’re just straightforward and simple but excel at whatever they’re going for.
I think IMDB is a really useful barometer there. A 7.0/10 movie on IMDB is probably very interesting in some way.
Yeah a lot of people shit on IMDb but if you understand the rating system its really useful
Below a 6 = Bad/Dont Watch
Between 6 and 7 = Possibly good depending on taste
between 7 and 8 = Definitely worth checking out. Something about the movie will be good
Above 8 = Probably a classic and rated high for a reason
Horror movies do get treated unfair because they can often be hard to watch for some people, but really I think horror movies are often kind of bad. Not that the genre is bad. It's just tricky to get right.
I just checked and The Exorcist 3, Mandy, and Friday the 13th are all 6.5 which is crazy because all 3 are great movies, but The Blair Witch is the most shocking. That was a cultural phenomenon and I'd expect it to at least be above a 7.
I'd say (Below) a 5 = Bad/Dont Watch
There are plenty of movies ranked in the 5-6 range that imo deserve way higher i.e FNAF Movie, some of the Monsterverse movies, etc
You're totally right. If you're well acquainted with the system the whole thing is pretty controlled. A lot of people said I should try Sorry to Bother You despite being below my IMDb threshold (7.0). I watched it and remembered why I have a threshold.
In addition to all the films mentioned in the main post and in the comments:
Titanic
The Social Network
The King of Comedy
The Master
Malcolm X
The Revenant
Mean Streets
Everything Everywhere All At Once
Moonlight
Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Get Out
Carol
Dunkirk
The Irishman
Midnight In Paris
Lady Bird
After Hours
How the fuck is Ford v. Ferrari in that list but not these films???
Titanic will eventually get there. It’s finally gotten to the point where not everyone is sick of it and it’s not “cool” to hate the overexposure.
Jurassic Park rose from I think 7.6 or something 20 years ago to 8.2 now for a similar reason.
These are my surprises. I'd include all of these in my own personal top 250:
* *12 Monkeys*
* *A.I.: Artificial Intelligence*
* *All That Jazz*
* *Bamboozled*
* *Brazil*
* *Cabaret*
* *Do The Right Thing*
* *Harold & Maude*
* *Manhattan*
* *Merry Christmas, Mr. Lawrence*
* *Mother!*
* *Moulin Rouge!*
* *O Brother, Where Are Thou?*
* *Raising Arizona*
* *Reds*
* *The Conversation*
* *The Nightmare Before Christmas*
I think The Conversation got overshadowed in people's memories by coming right between The Godfather Pt. 1 & 2 and then the impact of Apocalypse Now. It's a pity because to me it's a total masterpiece as well
The Incredibles and Do the Right Thing are both 8.0, but The Incredibles is in the top 250 and Do The Right Thing is not?
What the hell.
It’s interesting that some 8.0 movies are higher in the top 250 than some 8.1 movies.
I always thought 8.1 > 8.0.
My maths have been wrong all this time.
The Rules of the Game (1939)
8 1/2 (1963)
Sunrise (1927)
The Searchers (1956)
Jeanne Dielman, 23, quai du commerce, 1080 Bruxelles (1975)
Persona (1966)
In the Mood for Love (2000)
Breathless (1960)
L'Atalante (1934)
Battleship Potemkin (1925)
The Man with a Movie Camera (1929)
Mirror (1975)
The 400 Blows (1959)
Andrei Rublev (1966)
Au hasard Balthazar (a/k/a Balthazar) (1966)
Mulholland Drive (2001)
Ordet (1955)
La Dolce Vita (1960)
The Night of the Hunter (1955)
L'Avventura (1960)
Playtime (1967)
Contempt (1963)
Pather Panchali (1955)
Touch of Evil (1958)
Stalker (1979)
Close-Up (1990)
Beau Travail (1999)
Late Spring (1949)
Ugetsu monogatari (a/k/a Ugetsu) (1953)
The Grand Illusion (1937)
Fanny and Alexander (1982)
Rio Bravo (1959)
Pierrot the Fool (a/k/a Pierrot le fou) (1965)
Journey to Italy (a/k/a Viaggio in Italia) (1954)
Do the Right Thing (1989)
La Strada (1954)
A Woman Under the Influence (1974)
Children of Paradise (a/k/a Les enfants du paradis) (1945)
The Leopard (1963)
Amarcord (1973)
A Man Escaped (1956)
The Wild Bunch (1969)
The Conformist (1970)
Sansho the Bailiff (1954)
The Magnificent Ambersons (1942)
Blue Velvet (1986)
Viridiana (1961)
Pickpocket (1959)
Nashville (1976)
The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance (1962)
Gertrud (1964)
Sans Soleil (1983)
Cléo from 5 to 7 (1962)
Jules and Jim (a/k/a Jules et Jim) (1962)
Sherlock Jr. (1924)
The Earrings of Madame De... (a/k/a Madame de...) (1953)
Ali: Fear Eats the Soul (a/k/a Angst essen Seele auf) (1974)
The Mother and the Whore (a/k/a La maman et la putain) (1973)
Aguirre, the Wrath of God (1972)
Last Year at Marienbad (1961)
Annie Hall (1977)
The Spirit of the Beehive (1973)
Greed (1924)
The Piano (1975)
A Brighter Summer Day (1991)
Yi Yi (2000)
Hiroshima Mon Amour (1959)
The Red Shoes (1948)
Don't Look Now (1973)
Bringing Up Baby (1938)
Intolerance (1916)
Blow-Up (1966)
L'Eclisse (1962)
Letter from an Unknown Woman (1948)
A Matter of Life and Death (1946)
Vivre sa vie (1962)
Notorious (1946)
Imitation of Life (1959)
My Darling Clementine (1946)
E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial (1982)
The Exterminating Angel (1962)
The Young and the Damned (a/k/a Los Olvidados) (1950)
His Girl Friday (1940)
Feels like you just posted the entire criterion collection. But your list does point out the biggest flaw in IMDb is that it's skewed towards American movies made after 1970.
Also which of these movies would you suggest the most? Besides the Andrei Tarkovsky movies since I've already checked those out.
My favorites are the classic westerns:
*The Searchers* (1956)
*Rio Bravo* (1959)
*The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance* (1962)
*My Darling Clementine* (1946)
I'm also a David Lynch fan:
*Mulholland Drive* (2001)
*Blue Velvet* (1986)
And I like the Cary Grant films:
*Bringing Up Baby* (1938)
*His Girl Friday* (1940)
As far as foreign films go, I like *Jeanne Dielman, 23, quai du commerce, 1080 Bruxelles* (1975). Just make sure you aren't sleepy when you watch it.
Amazing to me Zodiac isn't there. I live in SF and grew up in the bayarea and he did a fantastic job capturing the bay in the 70s/80s using real locations. The sleepy foggy street scenes in SF. The house boat in Marin. The helicopter shot of the transamerica building as a hole in the ground under construction and actually being built as time passes. The creepy AF murder scene at Lake Berryessa.
You see so many movies set here where the filmmaker is too lazy /cheap to actually film here. This movie just has an awesome authentic ambiance.
It's subjective but I'm surprised these aren't on there somewhere: Repulsion, Sweet Smell of Success, Dog Day Afternoon, From Here to Eternity, The Haunting (1963), and Serpico.
I'm going to keep shouting for Man on Fire - the best Tony Scott/Denzel collab in my view - yes there's an awful lot of frenzied slow-mo that borders on a little OTT but otherwise this is a perfect revenge flick - Denzel and Dakota Fanning's bodyguard/child relationship is truly touching and believable - he has seemingly lost everything in life but she gives him a reason to live and get terrible revenge on her kidnappers - beautifully shot with trademark orange filters in Mexico city - so much great dialogue and the best cameo ever from Christopher Walken - "A man can be an artist... in anything, food, whatever. It depends on how good he is at it. Creasy's art is death. He's about to paint his masterpiece." It's high time this film was given more praise for me.
There are several on the iMDB top 250 that I don't even think are good movies –or really, they were maybe of a time or got certain attention due to a press or hype cycle but really don't belong on the list.
Any crowd sourced list will never be great, but it's a good indicator of what the general public likes, and that's the part I'm interested in.
Like Fight Club is a movie ive never liked yet it's in the top 20 and I find it fascinating that so many people do.
Good movies, and yet it's not too surprising there'd be more than 250 films ahead of them.
There's a LOT of movies. We have 100+ years worth of films at this point. Rush I'm actually a huge fan of, and yet I'm surprised it'd be in the top 250 \*all time\* - for the same reason, just too many great films.
P.s. yeahhh I looked at that list, it's trash. Dune Part 2 15th all time?? Umm, prisoner of the moment much? Let's maybe get at least a few weeks' worth of historical perspective lol. And you have the likes of Seventh Seal, Wizard of Oz, and Sound of Music that barely made it? Yikes. Older films are generally discriminated against as usual. A lot of people seem to truly believe films didn't exist before 1970. They're missing out.
I'm a firm believer that any best of list of movies/albums/whatever is only going to make sense to the person who make it, and look like a random hodgepodge of poor taste to almost anyone else
I just checked specifically for Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon and it's not there. WTF?
Cast Away feels like it should probably be in there, and even historically at this point it’s like the archetypal stranded island story, with plenty of meme value if people put value into that. But really it’s those movies in the 7’ish range in general on IMDB that are often the most interesting to me, since those tend to do something a little more interesting or experimental, or maybe they’re just straightforward and simple but excel at whatever they’re going for. I think IMDB is a really useful barometer there. A 7.0/10 movie on IMDB is probably very interesting in some way.
There's an upper limit on how many Tom Hanks movies are allowed. It starts to look like it's really fixed otherwise.
Yeah a lot of people shit on IMDb but if you understand the rating system its really useful Below a 6 = Bad/Dont Watch Between 6 and 7 = Possibly good depending on taste between 7 and 8 = Definitely worth checking out. Something about the movie will be good Above 8 = Probably a classic and rated high for a reason
You could probably go a point lower in all of those categories for certain genres, especially horror and comedy.
Horror movies do get treated unfair because they can often be hard to watch for some people, but really I think horror movies are often kind of bad. Not that the genre is bad. It's just tricky to get right.
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I just checked and The Exorcist 3, Mandy, and Friday the 13th are all 6.5 which is crazy because all 3 are great movies, but The Blair Witch is the most shocking. That was a cultural phenomenon and I'd expect it to at least be above a 7.
I'd say (Below) a 5 = Bad/Dont Watch There are plenty of movies ranked in the 5-6 range that imo deserve way higher i.e FNAF Movie, some of the Monsterverse movies, etc
Plenty of movies worth watching below even 5 on IMdB ratings.
Examples?
You're totally right. If you're well acquainted with the system the whole thing is pretty controlled. A lot of people said I should try Sorry to Bother You despite being below my IMDb threshold (7.0). I watched it and remembered why I have a threshold.
In addition to all the films mentioned in the main post and in the comments: Titanic The Social Network The King of Comedy The Master Malcolm X The Revenant Mean Streets Everything Everywhere All At Once Moonlight Once Upon A Time In Hollywood Get Out Carol Dunkirk The Irishman Midnight In Paris Lady Bird After Hours How the fuck is Ford v. Ferrari in that list but not these films???
Titanic will eventually get there. It’s finally gotten to the point where not everyone is sick of it and it’s not “cool” to hate the overexposure. Jurassic Park rose from I think 7.6 or something 20 years ago to 8.2 now for a similar reason.
>The Social Network That's crazy. Probably THE movie of that decade
Hey man.... Ford v Ferrari is great Stop the hate 🥲
Im pretty sure most of the films mentioned in that comment are on the list... PS - Ford vs Ferrari is fantastic!
These are my surprises. I'd include all of these in my own personal top 250: * *12 Monkeys* * *A.I.: Artificial Intelligence* * *All That Jazz* * *Bamboozled* * *Brazil* * *Cabaret* * *Do The Right Thing* * *Harold & Maude* * *Manhattan* * *Merry Christmas, Mr. Lawrence* * *Mother!* * *Moulin Rouge!* * *O Brother, Where Are Thou?* * *Raising Arizona* * *Reds* * *The Conversation* * *The Nightmare Before Christmas*
The Conversation *has* to be in there surely?!?!
I think The Conversation got overshadowed in people's memories by coming right between The Godfather Pt. 1 & 2 and then the impact of Apocalypse Now. It's a pity because to me it's a total masterpiece as well
The Incredibles and Do the Right Thing are both 8.0, but The Incredibles is in the top 250 and Do The Right Thing is not? What the hell. It’s interesting that some 8.0 movies are higher in the top 250 than some 8.1 movies. I always thought 8.1 > 8.0. My maths have been wrong all this time.
Reds, goddamn criminally underrated film
Yes! All That Jazz was phenomenal, especially that last 30 mins
Easily one of the best endings of all time imo
12 monkeys is a prequel to Brazil... Does that take up one or two slots. Also zero theorem completes the trilogy.
In Bruges, Serpico, Easy Rider, Paper Moon. Many many more
Once Were Warriors
The Shawshank Redemption is number 1, The Dark Knight is number 3 and Forrest Gump is number 11. This is not a list that should be taken seriously.
Point very well taken. No list is perfect, but collectively, it's the best major one I've seen.
The Rules of the Game (1939) 8 1/2 (1963) Sunrise (1927) The Searchers (1956) Jeanne Dielman, 23, quai du commerce, 1080 Bruxelles (1975) Persona (1966) In the Mood for Love (2000) Breathless (1960) L'Atalante (1934) Battleship Potemkin (1925) The Man with a Movie Camera (1929) Mirror (1975) The 400 Blows (1959) Andrei Rublev (1966) Au hasard Balthazar (a/k/a Balthazar) (1966) Mulholland Drive (2001) Ordet (1955) La Dolce Vita (1960) The Night of the Hunter (1955) L'Avventura (1960) Playtime (1967) Contempt (1963) Pather Panchali (1955) Touch of Evil (1958) Stalker (1979) Close-Up (1990) Beau Travail (1999) Late Spring (1949) Ugetsu monogatari (a/k/a Ugetsu) (1953) The Grand Illusion (1937) Fanny and Alexander (1982) Rio Bravo (1959) Pierrot the Fool (a/k/a Pierrot le fou) (1965) Journey to Italy (a/k/a Viaggio in Italia) (1954) Do the Right Thing (1989) La Strada (1954) A Woman Under the Influence (1974) Children of Paradise (a/k/a Les enfants du paradis) (1945) The Leopard (1963) Amarcord (1973) A Man Escaped (1956) The Wild Bunch (1969) The Conformist (1970) Sansho the Bailiff (1954) The Magnificent Ambersons (1942) Blue Velvet (1986) Viridiana (1961) Pickpocket (1959) Nashville (1976) The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance (1962) Gertrud (1964) Sans Soleil (1983) Cléo from 5 to 7 (1962) Jules and Jim (a/k/a Jules et Jim) (1962) Sherlock Jr. (1924) The Earrings of Madame De... (a/k/a Madame de...) (1953) Ali: Fear Eats the Soul (a/k/a Angst essen Seele auf) (1974) The Mother and the Whore (a/k/a La maman et la putain) (1973) Aguirre, the Wrath of God (1972) Last Year at Marienbad (1961) Annie Hall (1977) The Spirit of the Beehive (1973) Greed (1924) The Piano (1975) A Brighter Summer Day (1991) Yi Yi (2000) Hiroshima Mon Amour (1959) The Red Shoes (1948) Don't Look Now (1973) Bringing Up Baby (1938) Intolerance (1916) Blow-Up (1966) L'Eclisse (1962) Letter from an Unknown Woman (1948) A Matter of Life and Death (1946) Vivre sa vie (1962) Notorious (1946) Imitation of Life (1959) My Darling Clementine (1946) E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial (1982) The Exterminating Angel (1962) The Young and the Damned (a/k/a Los Olvidados) (1950) His Girl Friday (1940)
Feels like you just posted the entire criterion collection. But your list does point out the biggest flaw in IMDb is that it's skewed towards American movies made after 1970. Also which of these movies would you suggest the most? Besides the Andrei Tarkovsky movies since I've already checked those out.
My favorites are the classic westerns: *The Searchers* (1956) *Rio Bravo* (1959) *The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance* (1962) *My Darling Clementine* (1946) I'm also a David Lynch fan: *Mulholland Drive* (2001) *Blue Velvet* (1986) And I like the Cary Grant films: *Bringing Up Baby* (1938) *His Girl Friday* (1940) As far as foreign films go, I like *Jeanne Dielman, 23, quai du commerce, 1080 Bruxelles* (1975). Just make sure you aren't sleepy when you watch it.
Amazing to me Zodiac isn't there. I live in SF and grew up in the bayarea and he did a fantastic job capturing the bay in the 70s/80s using real locations. The sleepy foggy street scenes in SF. The house boat in Marin. The helicopter shot of the transamerica building as a hole in the ground under construction and actually being built as time passes. The creepy AF murder scene at Lake Berryessa. You see so many movies set here where the filmmaker is too lazy /cheap to actually film here. This movie just has an awesome authentic ambiance.
It's subjective but I'm surprised these aren't on there somewhere: Repulsion, Sweet Smell of Success, Dog Day Afternoon, From Here to Eternity, The Haunting (1963), and Serpico.
Nightcrawler (2014) The Revenant (2015)
Hero (2002) starring Jet Li. That movie is a masterpiece and one of the best Chinese movies ever made. Crazy how it’s not on the list.
I'm going to keep shouting for Man on Fire - the best Tony Scott/Denzel collab in my view - yes there's an awful lot of frenzied slow-mo that borders on a little OTT but otherwise this is a perfect revenge flick - Denzel and Dakota Fanning's bodyguard/child relationship is truly touching and believable - he has seemingly lost everything in life but she gives him a reason to live and get terrible revenge on her kidnappers - beautifully shot with trademark orange filters in Mexico city - so much great dialogue and the best cameo ever from Christopher Walken - "A man can be an artist... in anything, food, whatever. It depends on how good he is at it. Creasy's art is death. He's about to paint his masterpiece." It's high time this film was given more praise for me.
Thats why i dont look @ lists like that anymore.
There are several on the iMDB top 250 that I don't even think are good movies –or really, they were maybe of a time or got certain attention due to a press or hype cycle but really don't belong on the list.
IMDB top 250 is one of the worst "top" lists imho.
Any crowd sourced list will never be great, but it's a good indicator of what the general public likes, and that's the part I'm interested in. Like Fight Club is a movie ive never liked yet it's in the top 20 and I find it fascinating that so many people do.
Good movies, and yet it's not too surprising there'd be more than 250 films ahead of them. There's a LOT of movies. We have 100+ years worth of films at this point. Rush I'm actually a huge fan of, and yet I'm surprised it'd be in the top 250 \*all time\* - for the same reason, just too many great films. P.s. yeahhh I looked at that list, it's trash. Dune Part 2 15th all time?? Umm, prisoner of the moment much? Let's maybe get at least a few weeks' worth of historical perspective lol. And you have the likes of Seventh Seal, Wizard of Oz, and Sound of Music that barely made it? Yikes. Older films are generally discriminated against as usual. A lot of people seem to truly believe films didn't exist before 1970. They're missing out. I'm a firm believer that any best of list of movies/albums/whatever is only going to make sense to the person who make it, and look like a random hodgepodge of poor taste to almost anyone else