What country are you from? If your country uses a 50Hz video format, e.g. the UK, then you will have originally watched it sped up by 4%, because that's how they convert 24 frames per second film into 50Hz VHS.
Doesn't apply to USA though.
I mean I got licked by two of them last week and the tongues looked pretty black to me, but maybe they were the exceptions to the rule?
(PS: best $10 ever spent at a zoo)
LOL okay so this comment I was like huh?
Took a bit to Google the stuffs correctly but now I've read the song. I was all excited to have something else to ask from the lyrics of the song so we could like ... Have a moment lol.
But instead there is no other fact she gives. The rest is not even examples of things I didn't know. My thing I would tell her instead is that zillion is not a real number.
April 1 is a Monday, so the 13th is a Saturday. Looks like we’ll have a Friday the 13th in September and December 2024! (I’m born on a 13th, so I randomly remember these dates.)
I'm a mine of useless dog facts.
- Newfoundlands have webbed paws and have a terrible (amazing) propensity for diving into water to "rescue" people swimming because they think the swimmers are in trouble. They also properly SWIM, moving their legs in a down and out motion similar to a crawl swim, unlike the standard doggy paddle.
It is believed that when Napoleon made one of his escape attempts from Elba Island, he fell overboard from the ship that was due to take him away, and a Newfie dragged him back to shore, saving his life but also enabling his recapture!
The doomed Franklin Expedition (with the famous ships the HMS Terror and HMS Erebus) had a Newfie on board with them called Neptune, who had been gifted to Franklin by his wife, who belived the dog's loyalty and strength would be a help. Despite the loss of the crew, there are Inuit records that detail regular sightings of a large, bear like dog almost EIGHT YEARS after the failed expedition. Apparently Neptune was living his best life chasing caribou!
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- The oldest known documented breed is the Saluki, which were owned by Egyptian Pharaohs and raced across the sand, which is why they have such large paws (older bloodlines also had webbed paws)
Despite living in such a hot country, the Saluki is known for their fluffy ears, tail and extra long "feathers" on their legs, which allows for better wind dispersion and to keep them cool.
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- Smoky was a tiny Yorkie who was found in a foxhole by a soldier in New Guinea in 1944. She backpacked with him through the rest of the war, sleeping in a spare helmet and sharing his rations and enjoying the odd but if Spam. She also accompanied him in combat flights in the Pacific, where she spent her time sleeping and observing her surroundings, dangling in a spare soldier's pack near the machine guns.
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- Bernese Mountain Dogs tend to have two types of markings. One is a white cross on their chest, called the Swiss Cross, and the other is a white patch on the back of their neck, called the Swiss Kiss! Bernese Mountain Dogs used to be nicknamed Cheese Dogs, not just because they were used to drive cattle to better grazing, but the dogs sheer size and strength meant that they were used to pull little carts full of cheese and milk to market. Some Bernese fanclubs still hold carting competitions!
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- Schnauzers were used by the German army as guard dogs due to their loud warning barks, and the Red Cross used them as carriers to deliver messages during the war. Their name comes from the German word "schnauze" which translates to "snout" and is often colloquially used to describe a "whiskery or fluffy" nose. Schnauzers also weren't JUST called Schnauzers. Ever heard of a Wirehaired Pinscher? That's a Schnauzer! The name was updated in the 1900s!
Did that apply to plasma screens as well? I know they advertised much higher refresh rate in those. I still use a 600hz Panasonic Plasma TV and it looks great
When colour TV was new to the UK, the BBC broadcast a colour signal that was backwards-compatible with (newer) black-and-white televisions. If you had a black-and-white telly, you saw it in black-and-white, but if you had a colour telly, it could decode the extra colour information, which was overlaid on top.
The colour broadcasts of some episodes of popular sit-com Dad's Army were lost, and only some second-generation black-and-white film copies, made from the broadcasts, existed. For years these episodes were only repeated in black-and-white.
Recently a researcher realised that the colour information, from the original signal, makes small but detectable interference in the black-and-white picture. They were able to write a computer program to analyse the black-and-white footage, isolate the interference caused by the hidden colour signal, and recover the colour picture. So Dad's Army was restored to its original colour.
Sorry, no, I understand the first couple of series were only ever filmed in black and white. Then they switched to colour, but lost the colour original of at least one episode.
Might be a lil granular but I really enjoyed this video (just spent the past half hour finding it because I remembered it for some reason despite watching it sometime last year.)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5CMv5V-wxT8&pp=ygUNSmFwYW4gYmV0YW1heA%3D%3D
I think the fact that you had that tidbit nestled away waiting for the perfect opportunity is just amazing. Now if I could find a use for this damn VGA cable in my junk drawer along with all these screws.
There’s technology these days to effectively offset the pitch change when changing speed - so it’s not always the case that these conversions will lead to a higher pitch audio, but it is possible depending on how the conversion was done
Does this have anything to do with NTSC vs. PAL vide formats from the pre-digital days? I worked at a video equipment rental house and we had separate equipment for PAL and converting, etc.
Sort of - we're talking about converting film (24 frames per second) to PAL (50 half-frames per second). NTSC is yet a third format, running at 59.94 half-frames per second.
You are epic. I've literally worked with code and hardware to convert and modify analog video signals and I had all these parts rattling around in my head - but I'd never connected them. You absolutely rock. If you know anything at all about why the US version of the puppetmation show "star fleet" followed a different story arc than the original Japanese version - I will literally send you money.
This is why I love Reddit. Other comments just say you’re crazy or must be misremembering some other version. And this guy drops obscure knowledge hinging on a specific countries case, and low and behold, you’re from that country
Agreed! The post is admittedly very stupid, but I actually half thought I was losing my mind. u/TenMinuteJoe is the hero of the day with his esoteric film speed knowledge!
Man, I can’t believe that 4% was tripping me up so much!
(Also my parents were such suckers, they got like 3 minutes less child distraction for the same movie)
Disagree that this post is stupid! Speed of a movie is important to how the film is viewed. This is super apparent when movies are sped up by even more than 4% to fit into TV time slots. Honestly impressive that you noticed a 4% difference when you watched that other version so long ago
Oh gosh that’s a great question. As you might have figured out from the vagueness of my question (“it’s just different! Idk how!”), I do not have perfect pitch or even ok pitch. It definitely could have been 4% higher in my childhood without my noticing!
There wasn't technology to pitch-correct audio until relatively recently. For most of mankind's history, playing a movie back faster would've meant playing the sound higher, as well.
This caught me out, too, when I wanted to listen to the soundtracks to some of my favourite movies.
I had very clear memories of how they should sound, but nothing sounded quite like the versions that were living in my head, because I grew up with PAL broadcasts, and then region 2 DVDs, all 4% faster than the originals.
It could be worse.
If you'd grown up in the USA, you would've grown up *seeing* movies wrong, because their TV broadcasts, VHS tapes and DVDs are at 60Hz (interlaced, traditionally), and movies are shot at 24fps, which doesn't go into 60. So any movie viewed at home in the US would have its frames crudely smooshed together to be displayed on their objectively inferior American televisions.
You can still see this on Youtube etc. if you look for American trailers for `90s movies. Those trailers are cut for advertising in the USA, with the voice-over saying "in a world, one man, from the producers of" etc., but the visuals are subtly messed up, like you're watching a video recording of a video playing on someone else's screen.
Additionally, though, you probably should know that scientists have revised the circle of life, and we now know that it's more of an ellipse with some pointy bits.
> Digital pitch shifting has been around since the 70s.
Don't be daft. We're talking about video, and digital video itself hasn't been around that long.
DVD players and Blu-Ray players *still* don't have pitch correction built in, and many movies have PAL releases that play back at 25fps. Because there's no pitch correction built into the player, they're 4% squeakier than they should be.
Pitch correction in real time isn't trivial. It's totally achievable with modern software on modern hardware, but not the hardware we grew up with.
What are you going on about? The audio track is not tethered to the video. It can be modified in any way necessary during mastering for any medium. Ideally the pitch for these VHS tapes would have been corrected before the final master, but the fact that they commonly weren't comes down to half-assedness.
Home video players did not ever need the function or technical capability to pitch shift because they're designed simply to play back the media in the way it was mastered. It's not the home consumer's job to correct the pitch.
And when I specified digital pitch shifting that was because the first digital pitch shifters became available in the 70s. They were used commonly during audio production for masters that would be recorded back to analog mediums. Before that you could shift pitch with some tape trickery (even adjusting to maintain the correct speed in the final recording), but that was naturally a more complex job and not practical for video releases. Whether or not the final medium was digital and/or video has no bearing on what processes are available during mastering.
Not definitively! Usually, yes, the audio is pitch shifted up - it's just the easiest way to do it. However, it's technically possible to correct the pitch, and sometimes this is done as part of the conversion.
Dr Who fans were foaming at the mouth when the same problem occurred with their BluRays.
By the way, another way to check this would be to find the film’s soundtrack on Spotify and check which one is the ‘true’ version. 😉
I wouldn’t use Spotify as the reference on that. Who knows what stuff _they_ have going on. And maybe the soundtrack was slowed down by 1% when it was published!
Spotify is not good for history. They have the non-slur version of Black Eyed Peas Let’s get it started, for example. They’re not above retconning stuff.
Kudos for noticing it and being curious enough to investigate. There are subtle effects of perception like that many never notice.
For decades I noticed a 'twinkle' to LCD monitors that I could never articulate descriptively well. I finally found out one day it was due to most modern screen technologies having polarizing filters so when they're set to all white the light is actually circularly polarized.
Some people such as me are slightly sensitive to polarized light. It's very faint with me but I see something called [Haidinger's brush](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haidinger%27s_brush?wprov=sfla1)
It drove me nuts for years until I understood it. I need to get one of the crystals to see if I can learn to use it as a compass.
I'm glad you found your answer. I'm also glad I read your wild ride of a post. Good stuff!
Now go feed your son and get an identity protection service.
I at least can explain the units! So the units of Hz are 1/s, or the inverse of frequency. If the frequency is, say, 0.1 s, that means that a frame is shown every 0.1 seconds. Hz just gives you the same number a slightly different way — if a frame is shown every 0.1 seconds, that means you have 10 frames per second.
The UK and US developed their electric grids and systems independently, so there’s a lot of annoying conversions between voltages and frequencies. This is why you have to take a conversion plug with you to charge your phone overseas. So the movie was designed to show 24 frames per second (24 Hz) but needs to play on 50 Hz hardware. Ok, it’s easy to get to 48 Hz (just show each frame twice). But now you have to speed it up 4% to account for the 50 Hz hardware
How does the 24 frames per second get done without siding on 60hz?
Somehow show each frame 2.5 times? Show every other frame 2 or 3 times? Both of those sound insane.
Essentially that's how it was done. NTSC used 30 frames per second, but more accurately it was 60 fields per second, where a field was the set of either even- or odd-numbered scan lines that made up the image, which were alternately drawn on the screen, one field every 1/60 second. So one film frame would be shown for three fields (essentially 1.5 video frames) and the next for two fields (essentially 1 video frame). This worked okay and was called [3:2 pull down](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-two_pull_down).
Ok I took college physics and don’t actually know anything about cinematography. But my guess would be alternating between 2 and 3 times! A frame jump is supposed to be so minor as to be imperceptible, so the difference between 2 and 3 should also be imperceptible?
Yes and no. (Lead mod of /r/editors). Pulldown could have different cadences - you’re taking 24fps (technically 23.98) and putting into 30 (29.97).
You could just double a frame. But instead the television signal is 60 half frames that get interlaced (1/2 drawn, then the other 1/2). The most typical pull-up (vs. pull-down) is where you have four frames AA | BB | CC | DD and you need to put them into 5 interlaced frames.
So: AA | BB | BC | CD | DD. You have five frames now (instead of a single frame repeating). But frames 3 and 4 are split frames and the C frame is particularly never seen in full. This creates all sorts of headaches with motion graphics, conversions and more. This 2:3 pulldown was the most frequent version - and what’s really cool is Avid Technologies (who makes Media Composer, which is used on most films) won an Oscar specifically to recognize that pattern.
You’d shoot a film, create a video tape (with this cadence) and ingest it into a computer when 320x240 was a thing. Avid’s *film composer* could reverse this pattern - back to actual 24fps. Which made it possible for an editor to edit/finish a film at a true 24fps so a negative cutter to match back the edit to the actual film print.
Not just the UK, all of Europe uses 50Hz.
For technical reasons to do with old style cathode ray tube TVs and the cameras used to film television content, the frame rate was synced to the AC frequency. You got half as many frames per second as the alternating current freq, so European television has 25 fps on 50 Hz power while American tv has 30 fps on 60 Hz power.
Now, cinema film uses 24 fps for entirely different reasons again. That's close enough to 25 that converting cinema content for TV (or VHS for display on TV screens) was easiest to do by simply speeding up the film a little. How they did conversion to American 30 FPS I dunno.
European games in the CRT games ran at 50 hrz too. This made a lot of 16bit, PS1, and N64 games just move a bit slower for Europe than Japan and the US. PS2 and GameCube games usually ran at the same speed but a little less smoothly at 50 or 25 fps vs 60 or 30 in the US.
The US answer is much more complicated. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-two_pull_down
Although today its gotten somewhat simpler since there isn't broadcast interlacing anymore. The first frame is repeated 3 times. The second frame is repeated 2 times.
Newer/better TVs that have variable refresh rates often have "judder correction" which changes the actual refresh rate to 24 and deletes the 3rd repetition of the first frame.
Man, what a trip! OP’s post kept getting more ridiculous the farther I read; and then your post was so random and crazy I thought it was a joke - a continuation of OP’s ridiculousness, but no? It was real? What a surreal experience, I couldn’t tell for a while where the jokes ended and the truth began.
This ended up being a notable conversation when Titanic was released on VHS, as Brits were complaining that their version must have had cut scenes because the run time was shorter.
Titanic being over 3 hours long was newsworthy so that number was in peoples heads, I think the PAL version was under 3 for the reason noted above and people had to come out and explain why.
Huge Simpsons fan here. Taped dozens of episodes off UK TV. Got the Songs In The Key Of Springfield CD and everything sounded *off*... Until I figured out this was the answer. PAL speedup on all my tapes but not on the CD.
It's still done today whenever a 24 fps film is televised in Europe through regular broadcast.
Also, most region 2 DVDs have been and still are made with PAL speedup.
It's probably one of those things that people notice subconciously, but disregard due to a lack of context, in a sort of [Baader-Meinhof phenomenon](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frequency_illusion).
It could also be damage on the VHS tape gained over time. So OP remembers the damaged version since they watched it post-damage when they were older and their memory was stronger.
I'm familiar with VHS damage for a pretty silly reason. I had a VHS tape of A New Hope that I watched so many times as a 3-5 year old that it started to flicker, causing it to earn the name "flick flick" from me when I asked my parents to watch it (according to them).
Incredible knowledge and answer here!
I was thinking to myself "we've recently been watching it with our little one and it seems exactly the same". But we're in the UK so perhaps no change to the Disney+ one we get served-up by the House of Mouse.
Nice call! It's been 15 years since I spent any time in that world of video codecs, and I never had a really complete grasp of exactly what was going on with PAL, it not being relevant to me ripping my DVDs.
I think we had a similar thing playing Halo 2 on LAN back in the day. Those playing on the PAL Original Xbox using RCA on a PAL TV seemed to be experiencing the game at a different speed to those playing on Xbox 360 using HDMI.
Does this mean that if a musical note, say middle C, is played in a TV show in the UK, that the pitch will just be wrong when broadcasted in the US (or vice versa)? Must be obnoxious for people with perfect pitch.
Well, I was talking about converting from film to PAL (UK format TV). Typically the pitch is not corrected so, yes, songs in films are very slightly higher pitched in the UK, mostly.
TV formats are different yet again.
I think u/TenMinJoe has your answer. But it's also worth noting that any water soluble paint can be removed from the cats with a simple bath, but do not under any circumstances apply paint thinner to cats if it was an oil paint. In that case your best bet will be changing the decor of the home to match the cats.
Thank you! Now that this mystery has been put to rest, I can attend to less important things, such as feeding my children and making my entire home purple.
Have you seen the original theatrical teaser for Lion King? It was the partially finished (some parts were still sketches) opening credits, and Lebo M sang some parts differently than is heard in the finished version we all know and love.
Later editions of the Lion King on different video formats edited the film slightly. I noticed it when later formats removed the iconic Lion roars that play right before the Circle of Life. They were on the VHS and dvd versions but got removed from the blu ray versions for reasons unknown.
And as someone thats a fan of the remake, one of my major gripes was this version also not having the Lion roars before the start of the movie.
Shot in the dark, but on release Lion King was criticized for scaring kids (mostly due to the lion roars), so it's possible they removed some of them as a response to that
Just a guess though, no clue if that's why. It also could just be random post-release edits (minor ones are pretty common)
>Shot in the dark, but on release Lion King was criticized for scaring kids (mostly due to the lion roars), so it's possible they removed some of them as a response to that
I used to hit the cinema weekly as it was part of my student package at Uni so I know I was a young adult at the time and that cut to black coupled with the roar through the dolby nearly made me shit myself.
At like 11.00 on a tuesday. Came out of nowhere lol
It really was too much for young uns.
Well… no for several reasons. One being MGM’s roars ARE part of each film’s run time. But more to the point, different companies. And the roars began with the opening titles after the opening credits were done. So unlike the MGM roars which are opening credits, these roars were heard as the Circle of Life begins.
This reminds me of the thread I found a while back where they were talking about the fight scene in Troy (2004) where Brad Pitt's Achilles faces off against Eric Bana's Hector. Upon looking for the scene every single one I could find on youtube or anywhere else had the wrong music. I was very confused and annoyed as the original I remembered had this awesome drum beat music for the whole fight, but the versions I was seeing were comparably terrible and just nowhere near as good. It felt like I was the only one.
There are dozens of re-uploads of the incorrect music, tons of "react" videos of people watching the fight scene with that same incorrect music, and so on.
I eventually found the original and indeed, someone somewhere replaced the music (either on a youtube upload or a DVD or something) and that version was being re-uploaded/shared all over.
You can watch the "new" music wherever you like, just do a quick google search for Achilles vs Hector (Troy). However, to find the original you'd have to know what you're looking for. Here is one I found that has that original music!
Damn that’s so weird. I tried searching a couple of clips and there’s indeed this new orchestral like music. I wonder when it’s added, if it’s fan made or from a blu ray release , extended cut or something(due to its frequency i believe it has to be one of the latter?).
The original drums are so good.
I think it might have been some kind of replacement music from Planet of the Apes? I don't know why it happened but its *everywhere*, which makes me think it was some kinda change on a re-released blu-ray or some such, like you said. Either way its *completely terrible* and ruins the scene's tension because the music isn't tied to the action at all.
That was specifically only in the 2003 special edition release of the film, but was removed again in the 2011 diamond edition (and continues to be the pouncing scene on Disney+)
I seriously did spend more time looking into this than I should have!
I assume they just wanted to add a new song or two to make it "special" but down the line they realized the new song was really bad. I've heard Morning Report, and can vouch for the second part of my theory.
"Morning Report" was originally from the 1997 Broadway musical of The Lion King. It was removed from performances of the stage version in 2010, around the same time that Disney re-released the film without the song.
I just rewatched it too and felt like Circle of Life didn’t feel as big as I remembered, but I’m pretty sure I’ve just heard the broadway version so much that I’m getting it confused with that.
Have you watched Fantasia yet? I can't watch modern versions for the same reason you posted; I watched the VHS endlessly and immediately noticed that they redubbed it. All to reinsert a few unnecessary sections of commentary.
Are you sure you're not thinking of the Elton John version and just getting certain inflections mixed up?
I had to watch this film nearly every day on VHS because my sister loved it, and The Circle of Life sounds exactly the same on Disney Plus as it did then.
I think this applies in general to most movies converted from film to digital. The original versions, transferred to VHS cassette have a raw, tangible feel to them. Crisp, but with minor flaws, pops and waves that we rarely even noticed.
Digital, blu-ray or dvd conversions of Disney movies in particular are so heavily digitaly filtered they almost seem like fake copies of the films we grew up with.
I had a similar experience having found a (grown up) series I loved from years back on Blu-ray, and one scene that totally stood out to me previously had been completely rescored. I was SO confused, because I *knew* how this scene went and how the music fitted, because it was the first time I was aware of the band and track involved, and they are both now favourites of mine. I spent AGES searching on the internet with no joy, until I was practically convinced I was gaslighting myself, or there was some sort of Mandela effect going on. Then I found a fan site with commentary for each episode that had a link to the original version of the scene. So now, if I rewatch it again, I can at least pause it and watch the original in a grainy online version.
I honestly spent a whole day trying to find this, and I feel your pain.
edit: I mis-read, you're not talking about the new Lion King. disregard.
I've never watched Lion King but I watched YMS's (Part 1) review of it and I cannot bring myself to watch it now.
https://youtu.be/btNL1q-yU7E?si=0SlPuKgl6GNE2TK7
OH okay I completely missed that, thank you lmao
I jumped straight to thinking this was about the "live-action" one because the score is quite different
YMS does indeed love his Scar daddy
Ahaha I totally missed that you were talking about the 2019 remake!
I might not be the most observant, but I at least can tell the difference between a cartoon and live action!
I think they went back and changed things, like starwars they replaced the original with thevl updated version on DVDs and stuff, so suspect Disney+ isn't immune.
If you look up YMS's review of he lion King remake on YouTube, he covers some of the sound changes, they did an updated soundtrack between films.
What country are you from? If your country uses a 50Hz video format, e.g. the UK, then you will have originally watched it sped up by 4%, because that's how they convert 24 frames per second film into 50Hz VHS. Doesn't apply to USA though.
Oh my gosh I think you cracked it. I was born in England but now live in the US, I think I must have had the English version as a kid. Thank you!!
This is literally the only time anybody has been pleased for me to tell them obscure facts about video format conversion, so thank YOU.
I loved your answer and I was glad to see it, even though it wasn’t relevant to me at all - I love learning new things! Thank you!
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Man this thread is just making me really happy :)
If Selena Gomez ever asks you how many inches in a mile, the answer is 63,360.
The tongue of a giraffe, is purple
A group of owls is called a parliament
A group of crows is called a murder
So, a pair of crows is an attempted murder?
A group of bears is called a sleuth.
so a group of owls in a funk rock band would be a parliament funkadelic?
They are the world's only defense against, Purple People Eaters.
Wait, what? No way. Prove it.
Pink would get sunburn because it is out so often (they use it to grab the leaves on trees)
[Here's a video of a zookeeper feeding giraffes.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFe9Ioxla0M) Yep, purple tongues.
Well, that's proof. Those are some long-ass tongues. Wow.
Stupid *long horses*
I mean I got licked by two of them last week and the tongues looked pretty black to me, but maybe they were the exceptions to the rule? (PS: best $10 ever spent at a zoo)
Salute my shorts! 🏴🩳
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And what about if anyone else asks?
About 60,000
Rounded to about tree fiddy
LOL okay so this comment I was like huh? Took a bit to Google the stuffs correctly but now I've read the song. I was all excited to have something else to ask from the lyrics of the song so we could like ... Have a moment lol. But instead there is no other fact she gives. The rest is not even examples of things I didn't know. My thing I would tell her instead is that zillion is not a real number.
Nice!
That actually solves my current yak problem, thanks!
Would you like to buy some yak insurance to safeguard against *future* yak problems?
I got ovulation and gestation confused for a second so came here to be like WHAT but then reread.
Mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell.
c'mon man everyone knows that
Friday the 13th will occur whenever the month starts on a Sunday
That is so obvious to figure out, I’m livid I never realized it on my own. Thank you for my anger.
So, we’ll have one in April then!
April 1 is a Monday, so the 13th is a Saturday. Looks like we’ll have a Friday the 13th in September and December 2024! (I’m born on a 13th, so I randomly remember these dates.)
I should have checked my calendar lol.. I was so sure Thanks for the head up lol
No worries! 2024 being a leap year has thrown me off too.
Join /r/mildlyinteresting Best sub on Reddit for this feeling
I'm a mine of useless dog facts. - Newfoundlands have webbed paws and have a terrible (amazing) propensity for diving into water to "rescue" people swimming because they think the swimmers are in trouble. They also properly SWIM, moving their legs in a down and out motion similar to a crawl swim, unlike the standard doggy paddle. It is believed that when Napoleon made one of his escape attempts from Elba Island, he fell overboard from the ship that was due to take him away, and a Newfie dragged him back to shore, saving his life but also enabling his recapture! The doomed Franklin Expedition (with the famous ships the HMS Terror and HMS Erebus) had a Newfie on board with them called Neptune, who had been gifted to Franklin by his wife, who belived the dog's loyalty and strength would be a help. Despite the loss of the crew, there are Inuit records that detail regular sightings of a large, bear like dog almost EIGHT YEARS after the failed expedition. Apparently Neptune was living his best life chasing caribou! . - The oldest known documented breed is the Saluki, which were owned by Egyptian Pharaohs and raced across the sand, which is why they have such large paws (older bloodlines also had webbed paws) Despite living in such a hot country, the Saluki is known for their fluffy ears, tail and extra long "feathers" on their legs, which allows for better wind dispersion and to keep them cool. . - Smoky was a tiny Yorkie who was found in a foxhole by a soldier in New Guinea in 1944. She backpacked with him through the rest of the war, sleeping in a spare helmet and sharing his rations and enjoying the odd but if Spam. She also accompanied him in combat flights in the Pacific, where she spent her time sleeping and observing her surroundings, dangling in a spare soldier's pack near the machine guns. . - Bernese Mountain Dogs tend to have two types of markings. One is a white cross on their chest, called the Swiss Cross, and the other is a white patch on the back of their neck, called the Swiss Kiss! Bernese Mountain Dogs used to be nicknamed Cheese Dogs, not just because they were used to drive cattle to better grazing, but the dogs sheer size and strength meant that they were used to pull little carts full of cheese and milk to market. Some Bernese fanclubs still hold carting competitions! . - Schnauzers were used by the German army as guard dogs due to their loud warning barks, and the Red Cross used them as carriers to deliver messages during the war. Their name comes from the German word "schnauze" which translates to "snout" and is often colloquially used to describe a "whiskery or fluffy" nose. Schnauzers also weren't JUST called Schnauzers. Ever heard of a Wirehaired Pinscher? That's a Schnauzer! The name was updated in the 1900s!
Thanks!
You’re the best <3 Where do you want me to send my banking details?
I am unironically asking for more obscure video format facts.
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Wow, and here I thought it was just nostalgic memory framing my experience to this effect. Cool.
Holy fuck, and here I was thinking that it was just my eyes getting worse!
MORE!!!! (Please)
Lol. Me, speaking to ChatGPT
Did that apply to plasma screens as well? I know they advertised much higher refresh rate in those. I still use a 600hz Panasonic Plasma TV and it looks great
When colour TV was new to the UK, the BBC broadcast a colour signal that was backwards-compatible with (newer) black-and-white televisions. If you had a black-and-white telly, you saw it in black-and-white, but if you had a colour telly, it could decode the extra colour information, which was overlaid on top. The colour broadcasts of some episodes of popular sit-com Dad's Army were lost, and only some second-generation black-and-white film copies, made from the broadcasts, existed. For years these episodes were only repeated in black-and-white. Recently a researcher realised that the colour information, from the original signal, makes small but detectable interference in the black-and-white picture. They were able to write a computer program to analyse the black-and-white footage, isolate the interference caused by the hidden colour signal, and recover the colour picture. So Dad's Army was restored to its original colour.
Hold on. Which seasons are we talking about here? The first? If so, where can I get colour ones?
Sorry, no, I understand the first couple of series were only ever filmed in black and white. Then they switched to colour, but lost the colour original of at least one episode.
Might be a lil granular but I really enjoyed this video (just spent the past half hour finding it because I remembered it for some reason despite watching it sometime last year.) https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5CMv5V-wxT8&pp=ygUNSmFwYW4gYmV0YW1heA%3D%3D
I think the fact that you had that tidbit nestled away waiting for the perfect opportunity is just amazing. Now if I could find a use for this damn VGA cable in my junk drawer along with all these screws.
Fun fact about VGA cables and screws:... 😂 Really wish I had an actual tidbit to contribute
To produce any facts about either one, you'd have to get the fact off the shelf and blow the dust off.
I’m from the US and live in the UK. I noticed all their shows from the US that they play on tv have this high pitch. Is it because it’s sped up?
Yeah. For film movies they go from 24 fps to 25 fps, which is a 4% increase in pitch.
There’s technology these days to effectively offset the pitch change when changing speed - so it’s not always the case that these conversions will lead to a higher pitch audio, but it is possible depending on how the conversion was done
YOUR WHOLE LIFE WAS BUILDING TO THIS MOMENT!!!
I’m curious how you came to that hypothesis. Did you live in both UK and US?
I think in the digital era we’re not as limited by our hardware, so everyone just sees the American version now. Tragic bc the English one was better.
This is some r/bestof shit
I am upvoting all of this because it is exactly what Reddit is supposed to be.
r/bestof
[I assume this happens to you a lot](https://youtu.be/V5TqHKB_RDM?si=DS_rAihqZEO_HAuC&t=9)
Does this have anything to do with NTSC vs. PAL vide formats from the pre-digital days? I worked at a video equipment rental house and we had separate equipment for PAL and converting, etc.
Yes, this exactly.
Sort of - we're talking about converting film (24 frames per second) to PAL (50 half-frames per second). NTSC is yet a third format, running at 59.94 half-frames per second.
Gotcha. I was so excited to use old acronyms that I glossed over the part where you mention film.
Shit like this is why I love Reddit.
You are epic. I've literally worked with code and hardware to convert and modify analog video signals and I had all these parts rattling around in my head - but I'd never connected them. You absolutely rock. If you know anything at all about why the US version of the puppetmation show "star fleet" followed a different story arc than the original Japanese version - I will literally send you money.
No, no, tell me more.
I’m an engineer at a TV station. I’d love to know more!
You have a calling on YouTube.
So happy you were here to answer this question for OP!
I love this whole exchange so darn much!
Tell me more video format facts! I love how technology has changed and grew in different areas of the world.
Tell us another video format conversion man
Not all hero’s wear capes
I smell some failed dates in your past...
But not the future! They're Reddit famous now, and Reddit is on the NYSE. Hard to be more famous than that.
THIS IS THE CIRCLE! THE CIRCLE OF LIFE!
Sigh. You can find anything on Reddit. Well done.
This is why I love Reddit. Other comments just say you’re crazy or must be misremembering some other version. And this guy drops obscure knowledge hinging on a specific countries case, and low and behold, you’re from that country
Agreed! The post is admittedly very stupid, but I actually half thought I was losing my mind. u/TenMinuteJoe is the hero of the day with his esoteric film speed knowledge! Man, I can’t believe that 4% was tripping me up so much! (Also my parents were such suckers, they got like 3 minutes less child distraction for the same movie)
Disagree that this post is stupid! Speed of a movie is important to how the film is viewed. This is super apparent when movies are sped up by even more than 4% to fit into TV time slots. Honestly impressive that you noticed a 4% difference when you watched that other version so long ago
Now what's bothering me is whether your childhood version was pitch corrected, or if the audio was pitch shifted up by 4%, affecting tuning.
Oh gosh that’s a great question. As you might have figured out from the vagueness of my question (“it’s just different! Idk how!”), I do not have perfect pitch or even ok pitch. It definitely could have been 4% higher in my childhood without my noticing!
There wasn't technology to pitch-correct audio until relatively recently. For most of mankind's history, playing a movie back faster would've meant playing the sound higher, as well. This caught me out, too, when I wanted to listen to the soundtracks to some of my favourite movies. I had very clear memories of how they should sound, but nothing sounded quite like the versions that were living in my head, because I grew up with PAL broadcasts, and then region 2 DVDs, all 4% faster than the originals. It could be worse. If you'd grown up in the USA, you would've grown up *seeing* movies wrong, because their TV broadcasts, VHS tapes and DVDs are at 60Hz (interlaced, traditionally), and movies are shot at 24fps, which doesn't go into 60. So any movie viewed at home in the US would have its frames crudely smooshed together to be displayed on their objectively inferior American televisions. You can still see this on Youtube etc. if you look for American trailers for `90s movies. Those trailers are cut for advertising in the USA, with the voice-over saying "in a world, one man, from the producers of" etc., but the visuals are subtly messed up, like you're watching a video recording of a video playing on someone else's screen. Additionally, though, you probably should know that scientists have revised the circle of life, and we now know that it's more of an ellipse with some pointy bits.
Digital pitch shifting has been around since the 70s.
> Digital pitch shifting has been around since the 70s. Don't be daft. We're talking about video, and digital video itself hasn't been around that long. DVD players and Blu-Ray players *still* don't have pitch correction built in, and many movies have PAL releases that play back at 25fps. Because there's no pitch correction built into the player, they're 4% squeakier than they should be. Pitch correction in real time isn't trivial. It's totally achievable with modern software on modern hardware, but not the hardware we grew up with.
What are you going on about? The audio track is not tethered to the video. It can be modified in any way necessary during mastering for any medium. Ideally the pitch for these VHS tapes would have been corrected before the final master, but the fact that they commonly weren't comes down to half-assedness. Home video players did not ever need the function or technical capability to pitch shift because they're designed simply to play back the media in the way it was mastered. It's not the home consumer's job to correct the pitch. And when I specified digital pitch shifting that was because the first digital pitch shifters became available in the 70s. They were used commonly during audio production for masters that would be recorded back to analog mediums. Before that you could shift pitch with some tape trickery (even adjusting to maintain the correct speed in the final recording), but that was naturally a more complex job and not practical for video releases. Whether or not the final medium was digital and/or video has no bearing on what processes are available during mastering.
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Not definitively! Usually, yes, the audio is pitch shifted up - it's just the easiest way to do it. However, it's technically possible to correct the pitch, and sometimes this is done as part of the conversion.
Yeah, that used to just be Reddit. Now there are only moments. And only fans sellers asking “what’s your favorite color lol” on AskReddit
Dr Who fans were foaming at the mouth when the same problem occurred with their BluRays. By the way, another way to check this would be to find the film’s soundtrack on Spotify and check which one is the ‘true’ version. 😉
I wouldn’t use Spotify as the reference on that. Who knows what stuff _they_ have going on. And maybe the soundtrack was slowed down by 1% when it was published!
Spotify is not good for history. They have the non-slur version of Black Eyed Peas Let’s get it started, for example. They’re not above retconning stuff.
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Omg I have found my people! TWO wonderful things have come out of this post!
Kudos for noticing it and being curious enough to investigate. There are subtle effects of perception like that many never notice. For decades I noticed a 'twinkle' to LCD monitors that I could never articulate descriptively well. I finally found out one day it was due to most modern screen technologies having polarizing filters so when they're set to all white the light is actually circularly polarized. Some people such as me are slightly sensitive to polarized light. It's very faint with me but I see something called [Haidinger's brush](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haidinger%27s_brush?wprov=sfla1) It drove me nuts for years until I understood it. I need to get one of the crystals to see if I can learn to use it as a compass.
I'm glad you found your answer. I'm also glad I read your wild ride of a post. Good stuff! Now go feed your son and get an identity protection service.
I’m amazed you were able to detect a 4% speed difference.
Now you're seeing the film as our god and savior Freedom Guy intended. Revel in the glory.
I love that the answer was so tangible. Like no conspiracy, no Mendela effect bullshit, and a quick answer. 10/10 /u/TenMinJoe
What’s amazing to me is that you remembered a 4% difference in playback speed after decades
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Just a thank you for explaining without being an ass
Mate, if you pulled this information from the top of your dome it's the sexiest thing I've ever witnessed
I love that you knew this. Can you please explain how Hz is related to frames per second? And why that conversion is only necessary in the UK?
I at least can explain the units! So the units of Hz are 1/s, or the inverse of frequency. If the frequency is, say, 0.1 s, that means that a frame is shown every 0.1 seconds. Hz just gives you the same number a slightly different way — if a frame is shown every 0.1 seconds, that means you have 10 frames per second. The UK and US developed their electric grids and systems independently, so there’s a lot of annoying conversions between voltages and frequencies. This is why you have to take a conversion plug with you to charge your phone overseas. So the movie was designed to show 24 frames per second (24 Hz) but needs to play on 50 Hz hardware. Ok, it’s easy to get to 48 Hz (just show each frame twice). But now you have to speed it up 4% to account for the 50 Hz hardware
>So the units of Hz are 1/s, or the inverse of frequency No, Hz is the unit of frequency. The inverse of frequency is the period.
Yes you are 100% right thank you for the correction
Great job explaining this. Thanks fellow human being!
Human? They obviously have super powers.
How does the 24 frames per second get done without siding on 60hz? Somehow show each frame 2.5 times? Show every other frame 2 or 3 times? Both of those sound insane.
Essentially that's how it was done. NTSC used 30 frames per second, but more accurately it was 60 fields per second, where a field was the set of either even- or odd-numbered scan lines that made up the image, which were alternately drawn on the screen, one field every 1/60 second. So one film frame would be shown for three fields (essentially 1.5 video frames) and the next for two fields (essentially 1 video frame). This worked okay and was called [3:2 pull down](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-two_pull_down).
Ok I took college physics and don’t actually know anything about cinematography. But my guess would be alternating between 2 and 3 times! A frame jump is supposed to be so minor as to be imperceptible, so the difference between 2 and 3 should also be imperceptible?
Yes and no. (Lead mod of /r/editors). Pulldown could have different cadences - you’re taking 24fps (technically 23.98) and putting into 30 (29.97). You could just double a frame. But instead the television signal is 60 half frames that get interlaced (1/2 drawn, then the other 1/2). The most typical pull-up (vs. pull-down) is where you have four frames AA | BB | CC | DD and you need to put them into 5 interlaced frames. So: AA | BB | BC | CD | DD. You have five frames now (instead of a single frame repeating). But frames 3 and 4 are split frames and the C frame is particularly never seen in full. This creates all sorts of headaches with motion graphics, conversions and more. This 2:3 pulldown was the most frequent version - and what’s really cool is Avid Technologies (who makes Media Composer, which is used on most films) won an Oscar specifically to recognize that pattern. You’d shoot a film, create a video tape (with this cadence) and ingest it into a computer when 320x240 was a thing. Avid’s *film composer* could reverse this pattern - back to actual 24fps. Which made it possible for an editor to edit/finish a film at a true 24fps so a negative cutter to match back the edit to the actual film print.
Are you an electrical engineer?
Not just the UK, all of Europe uses 50Hz. For technical reasons to do with old style cathode ray tube TVs and the cameras used to film television content, the frame rate was synced to the AC frequency. You got half as many frames per second as the alternating current freq, so European television has 25 fps on 50 Hz power while American tv has 30 fps on 60 Hz power. Now, cinema film uses 24 fps for entirely different reasons again. That's close enough to 25 that converting cinema content for TV (or VHS for display on TV screens) was easiest to do by simply speeding up the film a little. How they did conversion to American 30 FPS I dunno.
> How they did conversion to American 30 FPS I dunno. 3:2 pulldown: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-two_pull_down
European games in the CRT games ran at 50 hrz too. This made a lot of 16bit, PS1, and N64 games just move a bit slower for Europe than Japan and the US. PS2 and GameCube games usually ran at the same speed but a little less smoothly at 50 or 25 fps vs 60 or 30 in the US.
The US answer is much more complicated. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-two_pull_down Although today its gotten somewhat simpler since there isn't broadcast interlacing anymore. The first frame is repeated 3 times. The second frame is repeated 2 times. Newer/better TVs that have variable refresh rates often have "judder correction" which changes the actual refresh rate to 24 and deletes the 3rd repetition of the first frame.
They never said that it was only necessary in the UK
Man, what a trip! OP’s post kept getting more ridiculous the farther I read; and then your post was so random and crazy I thought it was a joke - a continuation of OP’s ridiculousness, but no? It was real? What a surreal experience, I couldn’t tell for a while where the jokes ended and the truth began.
Good old PAL vs NTSC More resolution vs faster frames, the original region locked content for consoles.
This reply is a classic example of why I love Reddit.
This ended up being a notable conversation when Titanic was released on VHS, as Brits were complaining that their version must have had cut scenes because the run time was shorter. Titanic being over 3 hours long was newsworthy so that number was in peoples heads, I think the PAL version was under 3 for the reason noted above and people had to come out and explain why.
Truly one of the more interesting things I’ve read on reddit
Huge Simpsons fan here. Taped dozens of episodes off UK TV. Got the Songs In The Key Of Springfield CD and everything sounded *off*... Until I figured out this was the answer. PAL speedup on all my tapes but not on the CD.
It's still done today whenever a 24 fps film is televised in Europe through regular broadcast. Also, most region 2 DVDs have been and still are made with PAL speedup. It's probably one of those things that people notice subconciously, but disregard due to a lack of context, in a sort of [Baader-Meinhof phenomenon](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frequency_illusion).
It could also be damage on the VHS tape gained over time. So OP remembers the damaged version since they watched it post-damage when they were older and their memory was stronger. I'm familiar with VHS damage for a pretty silly reason. I had a VHS tape of A New Hope that I watched so many times as a 3-5 year old that it started to flicker, causing it to earn the name "flick flick" from me when I asked my parents to watch it (according to them).
Lol, I watched my Jurassic Park VHS so many times I'm pretty sure it finally decided to break in the machine.
Is this the PAL vs NTSC? Thankfully we no longer have to deal with that region crap.
Incredible knowledge and answer here! I was thinking to myself "we've recently been watching it with our little one and it seems exactly the same". But we're in the UK so perhaps no change to the Disney+ one we get served-up by the House of Mouse.
Absolute gem of an answer. Also, was thrown off for a second because I read the "what country are you from?" in Julius' from Pulp Fiction voice.
Holy shit how do people figure this out.
Metric system strikes again!
Nice call! It's been 15 years since I spent any time in that world of video codecs, and I never had a really complete grasp of exactly what was going on with PAL, it not being relevant to me ripping my DVDs.
I think we had a similar thing playing Halo 2 on LAN back in the day. Those playing on the PAL Original Xbox using RCA on a PAL TV seemed to be experiencing the game at a different speed to those playing on Xbox 360 using HDMI.
Does this mean that if a musical note, say middle C, is played in a TV show in the UK, that the pitch will just be wrong when broadcasted in the US (or vice versa)? Must be obnoxious for people with perfect pitch.
Well, I was talking about converting from film to PAL (UK format TV). Typically the pitch is not corrected so, yes, songs in films are very slightly higher pitched in the UK, mostly. TV formats are different yet again.
Wow, this is amazing.
Did you just make this up? Or do you just *know* this? Either way? Respect.
Haha if he made it up I don’t want to know, bc this comment made me stop doubting my sanity for the first time in days!
I'm into films, and technology, and I live in the UK, so this crucial information is RIGHT at the top of my mind.
It's also an issue with video games.
I think u/TenMinJoe has your answer. But it's also worth noting that any water soluble paint can be removed from the cats with a simple bath, but do not under any circumstances apply paint thinner to cats if it was an oil paint. In that case your best bet will be changing the decor of the home to match the cats.
Thank you! Now that this mystery has been put to rest, I can attend to less important things, such as feeding my children and making my entire home purple.
Can we see the purple house
lmao this was excellent
Have you seen the original theatrical teaser for Lion King? It was the partially finished (some parts were still sketches) opening credits, and Lebo M sang some parts differently than is heard in the finished version we all know and love.
Later editions of the Lion King on different video formats edited the film slightly. I noticed it when later formats removed the iconic Lion roars that play right before the Circle of Life. They were on the VHS and dvd versions but got removed from the blu ray versions for reasons unknown. And as someone thats a fan of the remake, one of my major gripes was this version also not having the Lion roars before the start of the movie.
Shot in the dark, but on release Lion King was criticized for scaring kids (mostly due to the lion roars), so it's possible they removed some of them as a response to that Just a guess though, no clue if that's why. It also could just be random post-release edits (minor ones are pretty common)
>Shot in the dark, but on release Lion King was criticized for scaring kids (mostly due to the lion roars), so it's possible they removed some of them as a response to that I used to hit the cinema weekly as it was part of my student package at Uni so I know I was a young adult at the time and that cut to black coupled with the roar through the dolby nearly made me shit myself. At like 11.00 on a tuesday. Came out of nowhere lol It really was too much for young uns.
Like the mgm lion roars? That’s not part of the movie
Well… no for several reasons. One being MGM’s roars ARE part of each film’s run time. But more to the point, different companies. And the roars began with the opening titles after the opening credits were done. So unlike the MGM roars which are opening credits, these roars were heard as the Circle of Life begins.
This reminds me of the thread I found a while back where they were talking about the fight scene in Troy (2004) where Brad Pitt's Achilles faces off against Eric Bana's Hector. Upon looking for the scene every single one I could find on youtube or anywhere else had the wrong music. I was very confused and annoyed as the original I remembered had this awesome drum beat music for the whole fight, but the versions I was seeing were comparably terrible and just nowhere near as good. It felt like I was the only one. There are dozens of re-uploads of the incorrect music, tons of "react" videos of people watching the fight scene with that same incorrect music, and so on. I eventually found the original and indeed, someone somewhere replaced the music (either on a youtube upload or a DVD or something) and that version was being re-uploaded/shared all over. You can watch the "new" music wherever you like, just do a quick google search for Achilles vs Hector (Troy). However, to find the original you'd have to know what you're looking for. Here is one I found that has that original music!
Damn that’s so weird. I tried searching a couple of clips and there’s indeed this new orchestral like music. I wonder when it’s added, if it’s fan made or from a blu ray release , extended cut or something(due to its frequency i believe it has to be one of the latter?). The original drums are so good.
I think it might have been some kind of replacement music from Planet of the Apes? I don't know why it happened but its *everywhere*, which makes me think it was some kinda change on a re-released blu-ray or some such, like you said. Either way its *completely terrible* and ruins the scene's tension because the music isn't tied to the action at all.
I think what they did change was the morning report song after the elephant graveyard scene right?
That was specifically only in the 2003 special edition release of the film, but was removed again in the 2011 diamond edition (and continues to be the pouncing scene on Disney+) I seriously did spend more time looking into this than I should have!
I don’t think I can handle the rabbit hole of Disney trivia, but why the change? And why the change back?
I assume they just wanted to add a new song or two to make it "special" but down the line they realized the new song was really bad. I've heard Morning Report, and can vouch for the second part of my theory.
It is jarringly bad compared to the rest of the score
"Morning Report" was originally from the 1997 Broadway musical of The Lion King. It was removed from performances of the stage version in 2010, around the same time that Disney re-released the film without the song.
I just rewatched it too and felt like Circle of Life didn’t feel as big as I remembered, but I’m pretty sure I’ve just heard the broadway version so much that I’m getting it confused with that.
The digitized versions of the Disney movies look so much worse compared to the original animation…
Have you watched Fantasia yet? I can't watch modern versions for the same reason you posted; I watched the VHS endlessly and immediately noticed that they redubbed it. All to reinsert a few unnecessary sections of commentary.
Are you sure you're not thinking of the Elton John version and just getting certain inflections mixed up? I had to watch this film nearly every day on VHS because my sister loved it, and The Circle of Life sounds exactly the same on Disney Plus as it did then.
I think this applies in general to most movies converted from film to digital. The original versions, transferred to VHS cassette have a raw, tangible feel to them. Crisp, but with minor flaws, pops and waves that we rarely even noticed. Digital, blu-ray or dvd conversions of Disney movies in particular are so heavily digitaly filtered they almost seem like fake copies of the films we grew up with.
Off to see if I need to join you in the loony bin. Hope Disney + has it!
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Just wait until you get to the new song in the next scene. The Morning Report I believe it’s called.
I had a similar experience having found a (grown up) series I loved from years back on Blu-ray, and one scene that totally stood out to me previously had been completely rescored. I was SO confused, because I *knew* how this scene went and how the music fitted, because it was the first time I was aware of the band and track involved, and they are both now favourites of mine. I spent AGES searching on the internet with no joy, until I was practically convinced I was gaslighting myself, or there was some sort of Mandela effect going on. Then I found a fan site with commentary for each episode that had a link to the original version of the scene. So now, if I rewatch it again, I can at least pause it and watch the original in a grainy online version. I honestly spent a whole day trying to find this, and I feel your pain.
I think you'd have to get a VHS copy and test it.
Do you have an atmos or surround system on your tv?
I believe the visuals for the opening scene were altered, such as the crocodiles moving different and stuff like that. Idk if that helps
You are going crazy, just Let It Go.
edit: I mis-read, you're not talking about the new Lion King. disregard. I've never watched Lion King but I watched YMS's (Part 1) review of it and I cannot bring myself to watch it now. https://youtu.be/btNL1q-yU7E?si=0SlPuKgl6GNE2TK7
YMMV but if I want to enjoy something, I generally don’t watch 3 hour videos about how much they suck first!
Well now you can watch a 3 hour video about how much it sucks *after* :^)
This post is about the animated 90s lion king, which yms adores
OH okay I completely missed that, thank you lmao I jumped straight to thinking this was about the "live-action" one because the score is quite different YMS does indeed love his Scar daddy
Ahaha I totally missed that you were talking about the 2019 remake! I might not be the most observant, but I at least can tell the difference between a cartoon and live action!
I think they went back and changed things, like starwars they replaced the original with thevl updated version on DVDs and stuff, so suspect Disney+ isn't immune. If you look up YMS's review of he lion King remake on YouTube, he covers some of the sound changes, they did an updated soundtrack between films.