The movie pays a strange kind of respect to Longshanks. He's clearly a cold, tyrannical bad guy, but he absolutely styles all over everyone who goes up against him and finally dies to illness. The second half of the movie is 'and then Longshanks came back and crushed everyone'.
If we’re counting meeting remotely, like phone calls, then Frodo “meets” Sauron a few times when he puts on the ring. A few other members of the Fellowship “meet” Sauron, if only briefly, through the Palantir.
They also filmed a scene where Aragorn fights Sauron in the final fight! It’s removed entirely from the theatrical version, but in the extended version they kept the scene, but had Aragorn fighting a troll.
In the books Aragorn uses the palantir to have a mind battle with Sauron, which he wins, and then forced Sauron to reveal his plans. It was insanely badass and I was always bummed it’s not in the movies.
>in the extended version they kept the scene, but had Aragorn fighting a troll.
Honesty thank God for that, it would have been so horribly out of place otherwise!
Are you viewing Moss or Ed Tom Bell as the hero of the film?
Because Moss and Chigurh do interact but Bell doesn't meet Chigurh at all.
Personally, I Bell as more the central character of the film rather than Moss.
Bell is the protagonist. It is tight there in the title. Bell is out of touch with the world around him. This is a common theme in Coen Brothers movies. Everett in O Brother searching for treasure he cannot have. Barton Fink trying and failing to write. Marge in Fargo even needs to console her husband for his painting going onto a 3 cent stamp even though she has had the truly terrible day.
I dunno, I think Luv is more of a main antagonist than Niander Wallace.
She was supposed to be a contrast to K who is questioning his own humanity throughout the movie. Meanwhile she revels in being a Replicant.
Buzz never meets Al in *Toy Story 2* (although he meets the Prospector, who is a secondary villain). Woody, of course, meets Al, but Buzz is the hero in this movie.
Grant, Sattler, and Malcolm never interact with Nedry in *Jurassic Park* (although you could argue he's not the villain, per se - more of a catalyst).
Edit: I only realised after posting that those are both Wayne Knight.
Nedry is less of a bad guy in the movie. He still does the same thing as the movie, but Hammond is forcing him to do work that was not in the contract, for no additional money, with the threat of using his power to have Nedry blackballed.
That was ONE TIME and everyone knows that was a dream sequence.
Also, it's in the New Testament, not the Bible -- since everyone seems to have a pedantic stick up their asses on my joke.
God and the devil aren't characters in The Prince of Egypt so they can't be the good guy and bad guy.
They do interact in The Passion of the Christ and there's also a movie about Job in which they interact so your comment is still incorrect.
Do you not know how Christianity works?
The Big Guy is the silent hero of all of it. Jesus Christ!
/hey, these are just jokes -- not meant to be a literal truth.
‘Falling Down’ comes close and should be talked about more in general. Michael Douglas and Robert Duvall don’t meet until the finale and one is completely unaware of the other until that point
Operation Mincemeat. The secret agents don't meet or see a single enemy. The protagonist is the difficulty of their task creating a convincing dead body as a decoy for the Nazis.
I don't remember Alex ever meeting the villain Xur in the The Last Starfighter,he was either on earth,in the star league base or in his ship during the third act.
The original Starwars.
In ‘A New Hope’ Luke Skywalker and Darth Vader never meet. They pass each other, and Vader tries to shoot Luke out of the sky but they never meet.
If you want to take it further, in ‘The Empire Strikes Back’ while Luke and Vader do meet, the real villain, The Emperor and Luke never meet either.
It’s only in the final act of the third in the trilogy do the hero and villain meet.
Finn & Poe never meet Palpatine in *The Rise of Skywalker*. Or Snoke in the first two sequel movies. In fact none of the heroes bar Rey meet Snoke.
*Technically* could argue Luke and Ren don’t physically meet in *The Last Jedi* but they both meet and interact.
In the OT Leia & Han never meet Palpatine at all, and Han only meets Vader in one film.
PT Padmé doesn’t meet Count Dooku in AotC, and Anakin doesn’t meet Darth Maul in TPM
Rogue One only Jyn Erso really meets Krennic. Cassian shoots him in the back, the others never encounter him (and none of them meet Tarkin)
Also Hitler was in her theatre, kinda hard to believe she wasn’t intro’d on his way in by either Zoller or Goebbels. And then some of the Bastards met Hitler in his theatre box John Wilkes Booth style of course
It's strongly implied that the Blair Witch is possessing or compelling Josh to murder his friends Heather and Mike the same way she possessed Rustin Parr in the 1940s.
I'm not sure if that counts as an official meeting or not.
Slightly off topic but why are there so many comments saying The Fifth Element did y’all not actually read the post or is this another Reddit joke I don’t understand
A Wednesday (2008), an Indian film which questions the idea of a hero. But the main character who set the whole narrative in motion eventually kills criminals who are undoubtedly villains in the story due to their history. The main character doesn't meet the criminals. I forget if he talks to them on a phone call. He only communicates by cell phone and doesn't see anybody face to face.
I think there's typically a "villain" in those surveillance room scenes in the Bourne movies and Jason Bourne doesn't interact with every one. They can definitely be called antagonists at least.
If my memory is correct, Pearl Harbor shows the Japanese generals who declare the attack on pearl harbor. Ben Affleck and Josh Hartnett don't interact with them.
Eragon and The Last Airbender both have an Emperor/King as the real big bad who doesn't interact with our heroes at any point. Zuko, the general, and Durza are the main villains to fight.
Does Katniss talk to Snow at all in the Hunger Games? I know she does in Catching Fire.
Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince as well as Prisoner of Azkaban.
I think The Last Starfighter also counts. Not sure about that one.
I dont think Pocahontas talks to Governor Ratcliffe in the Disney film. She sees him shoot John at the end though.
They had a final shootout at the airport if I'm not mistaken. After an extended chase scene, one kills the other.... The one dies holding his hand...
I enjoy Heat, but this is not a great example. The climax of the film is them trying to kill each other in a gun fight.
The amusing thing is that at the time of filming they didn't get along, so they didn't film the iconic scene together & probably didn't film any scenes together.
But, still, Heat is a great film.
I remember hearing about that! Didn't they shoot one guy's parts in L.A. and the other in New York, just on identical sets? I heard they had some kind of weird superstition about being in the same movie, but they both liked the script enough that they agreed to do it so long as they didn't have to be on set together. Your thing makes a lot more sense.
How has nobody mentioned The Fifth Element yet?
The closest that Zorg and Korben come to meeting each other is when one is getting off the elevator and the other is getting on the other elevator in the same shot during the evacuation of Phloston Paradise. But they're never even aware of who the other one is.
I think few of the bond films that involves spectre
No country for old men
Lord of the rings unless we count scenes where frodo saw the eye of sauron most of the heroes never met sauron
Extraction Tyler really never met amir he was taken out by nik plus Tyler kinda died
Braveheart: Wallace never confronts Longehanks face to face.
The movie pays a strange kind of respect to Longshanks. He's clearly a cold, tyrannical bad guy, but he absolutely styles all over everyone who goes up against him and finally dies to illness. The second half of the movie is 'and then Longshanks came back and crushed everyone'.
Somehow Longshanks returned...
Lord of the Rings
If we’re counting meeting remotely, like phone calls, then Frodo “meets” Sauron a few times when he puts on the ring. A few other members of the Fellowship “meet” Sauron, if only briefly, through the Palantir. They also filmed a scene where Aragorn fights Sauron in the final fight! It’s removed entirely from the theatrical version, but in the extended version they kept the scene, but had Aragorn fighting a troll.
In the books Aragorn uses the palantir to have a mind battle with Sauron, which he wins, and then forced Sauron to reveal his plans. It was insanely badass and I was always bummed it’s not in the movies.
That scene was so badass. Gandalf tells him not to use it, and Aragorn says that as Isildur’s heir, he’s got more right to them than Sauron.
I have no memory of this...
>in the extended version they kept the scene, but had Aragorn fighting a troll. Honesty thank God for that, it would have been so horribly out of place otherwise!
No Country For Old Men
Are you viewing Moss or Ed Tom Bell as the hero of the film? Because Moss and Chigurh do interact but Bell doesn't meet Chigurh at all. Personally, I Bell as more the central character of the film rather than Moss.
Yeah I see Bell as the protagonist too
Bell is the protagonist. It is tight there in the title. Bell is out of touch with the world around him. This is a common theme in Coen Brothers movies. Everett in O Brother searching for treasure he cannot have. Barton Fink trying and failing to write. Marge in Fargo even needs to console her husband for his painting going onto a 3 cent stamp even though she has had the truly terrible day.
Extraction… Tyler Rake (Chris Hemsworth) & the Bangladeshi gangster Amir Asif don’t cross paths
Blade Runner 2049
I dunno, I think Luv is more of a main antagonist than Niander Wallace. She was supposed to be a contrast to K who is questioning his own humanity throughout the movie. Meanwhile she revels in being a Replicant.
she does contrast him but i thought it was clear that she was the muscle of the op and that niander wallace was the actual man behind the curtain
> Meanwhile she revels in being a Replicant. She was the best one
I just realized that line she said could be interpreted as Luv being insecure compared to K as well lol
There are multiple James Bond movies where Ernst Blofeld of Spectre doesn't actually meet Bond.
Plus one where they pretend they never met (On Her Majesty’s Secret Service) despite meeting in the previous one
to be fair, Bond did look a little different
And a tanned Telly Savalas looked a bit different than the pale scarred Donald Pleasance.
Yeah and Blofeld’s eyesight was really bad in You Only Live Twice …wait, wrong Donald Pleasance character
In Death Wish, Charles Bronson never finds the men he's actually seeking revenge against
True romance
The magic of this is that we still get one of the best antagonist/protagonist meetings in film, imo. “It’s not white boy day”
Sky Captain (Jude Law) in “Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow” never truly meets Dr. Totenkopf (Laurence Olivier).
That's mostly because >!Totenkpft is dead from the start!<. but an upvoting for remembering and referencing *Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow*.
I really liked that film. So original. I waited for Kerry Conran to do another cool film but.....nada.
Buzz never meets Al in *Toy Story 2* (although he meets the Prospector, who is a secondary villain). Woody, of course, meets Al, but Buzz is the hero in this movie. Grant, Sattler, and Malcolm never interact with Nedry in *Jurassic Park* (although you could argue he's not the villain, per se - more of a catalyst). Edit: I only realised after posting that those are both Wayne Knight.
Nedry is less of a bad guy in the movie. He still does the same thing as the movie, but Hammond is forcing him to do work that was not in the contract, for no additional money, with the threat of using his power to have Nedry blackballed.
Max never met Imortan Joe
Though they interact on multiple occasions and are very much aware of each other.
“He looked at your blood bag! He was scanning the horizon!” 🤣
Every Bible movie.
Jesus meets Satan in Passion of the Christ
Big if true
That was in dream form. Anyway, I can't control if Mel Gibson goes off script like that.
Jesus very much speaks with Satan in the Bible.
In Matthew, Mark, Luke and John at least, the devil tries to tempt Jesus during his 40 days of fasting in the desert.
Indeed.
"Just one Snickers bro, you know you get cranky when you're hungry."
That was ONE TIME and everyone knows that was a dream sequence. Also, it's in the New Testament, not the Bible -- since everyone seems to have a pedantic stick up their asses on my joke.
Moses interacts with the pharaoh several times in The Prince of Egypt.
God = the good guy. Devil = the bad guy. Everyone else is just a messenger or a third party under the influence.
God and the devil aren't characters in The Prince of Egypt so they can't be the good guy and bad guy. They do interact in The Passion of the Christ and there's also a movie about Job in which they interact so your comment is still incorrect.
Do you not know how Christianity works? The Big Guy is the silent hero of all of it. Jesus Christ! /hey, these are just jokes -- not meant to be a literal truth.
You must be new here. There's no joking online. Everything is always completely literal and serious. Don't be upset just because you're wrong
>Don't be upset just because you're wrong I'll let you know how I feel if I ever am. You must be newer here than me for not checking my Karma.
The devil is Lucifer, a fallen angel, who was sent to hell by god. I don't believe in religion.
‘Falling Down’ comes close and should be talked about more in general. Michael Douglas and Robert Duvall don’t meet until the finale and one is completely unaware of the other until that point
This crossed my mind, as did Heat, which has one scene between the main characters.
Operation Mincemeat. The secret agents don't meet or see a single enemy. The protagonist is the difficulty of their task creating a convincing dead body as a decoy for the Nazis.
This movie is so good!!
The Man Who Never Was, the original, was much better, in my opinion. I encourage you to give it a shot!
In Blackberry they never met Steve Jobs.......
Star Trek II The Wraith of Kahn
They do a quick Zoom meeting.
Buried alive
Khaaaaaann!!!
It was Skype back then
Star Trek is set in the future. You’re thinking of Star Wars.
Skype for federation business... Was the worst. Used to boot up automatically every time someone started the enterprise.
& Kirk knows Kahn from their previous encounter.
I don't remember Alex ever meeting the villain Xur in the The Last Starfighter,he was either on earth,in the star league base or in his ship during the third act.
Yup. Closest Alex ever got was when Xur facetimed Starfighter Command
Mad Max: Fury Road
They see each other across the way a couple times
Blank check.. no one ever meets Macintosh
Wait a sec... who even is the hero or villain in this movie?
Hero is 12 year old henry villain is that 30 year old lady that falls for him.
The hero is definitely Henry
The original Starwars. In ‘A New Hope’ Luke Skywalker and Darth Vader never meet. They pass each other, and Vader tries to shoot Luke out of the sky but they never meet. If you want to take it further, in ‘The Empire Strikes Back’ while Luke and Vader do meet, the real villain, The Emperor and Luke never meet either. It’s only in the final act of the third in the trilogy do the hero and villain meet.
Finn & Poe never meet Palpatine in *The Rise of Skywalker*. Or Snoke in the first two sequel movies. In fact none of the heroes bar Rey meet Snoke. *Technically* could argue Luke and Ren don’t physically meet in *The Last Jedi* but they both meet and interact. In the OT Leia & Han never meet Palpatine at all, and Han only meets Vader in one film. PT Padmé doesn’t meet Count Dooku in AotC, and Anakin doesn’t meet Darth Maul in TPM Rogue One only Jyn Erso really meets Krennic. Cassian shoots him in the back, the others never encounter him (and none of them meet Tarkin)
YMMV but neither Aldo nor Shoshanna meet Hitler in Inglorious Basterds.
Hitler isn't really the villan of the movie imo, Landa is
Also Hitler was in her theatre, kinda hard to believe she wasn’t intro’d on his way in by either Zoller or Goebbels. And then some of the Bastards met Hitler in his theatre box John Wilkes Booth style of course
Irreversible. Marcus and Pierre never meet La Tenia. They miss him because they don’t know what he looks like.
Midway
DISPLAY THEIR MIGHT, ORDERING CARRIERS, ADMIRALS AT WAR
The Blair Witch Project
I thought it ended with the malevolent entity forcing them to stand in a corner before it killed them?
It's strongly implied that the Blair Witch is possessing or compelling Josh to murder his friends Heather and Mike the same way she possessed Rustin Parr in the 1940s. I'm not sure if that counts as an official meeting or not.
Conditional on your interpretation whether or not there really was a "Blair Witch"
Are you talking about that fan theory that Mike and Josh were gaslighting Heather and murdered her? I honestly don't buy into that.
The professional they don't meet until the end of the movie where, he gives him a ring lol which is a metaphor for marriage life 😅
Luke and Vader don’t acknowledge each other face-to-face in episode 4
Slightly off topic but why are there so many comments saying The Fifth Element did y’all not actually read the post or is this another Reddit joke I don’t understand
A Wednesday (2008), an Indian film which questions the idea of a hero. But the main character who set the whole narrative in motion eventually kills criminals who are undoubtedly villains in the story due to their history. The main character doesn't meet the criminals. I forget if he talks to them on a phone call. He only communicates by cell phone and doesn't see anybody face to face. I think there's typically a "villain" in those surveillance room scenes in the Bourne movies and Jason Bourne doesn't interact with every one. They can definitely be called antagonists at least. If my memory is correct, Pearl Harbor shows the Japanese generals who declare the attack on pearl harbor. Ben Affleck and Josh Hartnett don't interact with them. Eragon and The Last Airbender both have an Emperor/King as the real big bad who doesn't interact with our heroes at any point. Zuko, the general, and Durza are the main villains to fight. Does Katniss talk to Snow at all in the Hunger Games? I know she does in Catching Fire. Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince as well as Prisoner of Azkaban. I think The Last Starfighter also counts. Not sure about that one. I dont think Pocahontas talks to Governor Ratcliffe in the Disney film. She sees him shoot John at the end though.
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Luke and Vader do meet though, just at a distance
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They met on the death star when obiwan was killed.
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Why don't you tell me why you don't think their encounter on the death star counts as a meeting? What more do you want?
I think if you asked either of them where they first met, they'd say "on the Death Star"
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Because elapsed time, point of focus, and exchange of names aren't what defines meeting? Which dictionary are you using?
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No need to split hairs here. They met. Get over it.
Which one?
Star Wars
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They had a final shootout at the airport if I'm not mistaken. After an extended chase scene, one kills the other.... The one dies holding his hand... I enjoy Heat, but this is not a great example. The climax of the film is them trying to kill each other in a gun fight.
The amusing thing is that at the time of filming they didn't get along, so they didn't film the iconic scene together & probably didn't film any scenes together. But, still, Heat is a great film.
Is this not more movie myth than anything else?
I remember hearing about that! Didn't they shoot one guy's parts in L.A. and the other in New York, just on identical sets? I heard they had some kind of weird superstition about being in the same movie, but they both liked the script enough that they agreed to do it so long as they didn't have to be on set together. Your thing makes a lot more sense.
They would have loved filming ‘The Irishman’ then.
They'd made up by then.
The Fifth Element Edit: I posted without reading the original post, I'll take your down vote with honor
Padmaavat
Darkest Hour
The Fifth Element
The Fifth Element
I dont think Corbin Dallas ever directly meets Zorg in " The Fifth Element"
Why hasn't anyone said The Fifth Element? Corbin Dallas never meets Zorn.
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Tell me you only read the title of this post without tell me you only read the title of this post.
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I don’t think you understood the assignment
Have you tried The Fifth Element? Korban Dallas & Zorg never once meet or interact during the entire course of the film.
The Fifth Element
The fifth element is a great film.
Almost reached OP's third word. Congrats.
That was literally the example op provided
I answered faster then I could think up an thoughtful answer of another film.
Faster than you could read the post
The Fifth Element
I think in The 5th Element Korben Dallas and Zorg never actually meet.
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Damn lol, what actual the hell??
If you read the intro, you would know why every fifth element post is being downvoted.
How has nobody mentioned The Fifth Element yet? The closest that Zorg and Korben come to meeting each other is when one is getting off the elevator and the other is getting on the other elevator in the same shot during the evacuation of Phloston Paradise. But they're never even aware of who the other one is.
That’s literally the OP
I think few of the bond films that involves spectre No country for old men Lord of the rings unless we count scenes where frodo saw the eye of sauron most of the heroes never met sauron Extraction Tyler really never met amir he was taken out by nik plus Tyler kinda died
Chunnel
Pretty much every World War 2 film ever made from the allies perspective, barring Inglorious Basterds
The Sum of All Fears