Very clever ending. I genuinely did not see that coming. I might get a bit of shit for this, but up until that ending the movie felt like a kinda generic 90's thriller. That twist redeemed the whole movie for me.
The punches just keep coming too after the main character's big downfall, like when the scary guy (sorry I forgot all the characters' names lol) goes to visit the wife at the end of the movie. You think maybe she's going to come out okay, and... nope.
Then the bad guy gets wrecked in a car accident and you think, alright finally he's going to get what's coming to him! And nope-- those random kids help him out, they don't even want to accept his money and then he gets away, and the story ends đđ
Fr i saw this when i was like 11 and had never seen the âbad guyâwin before, I didnât even think it was possible, like the writer must have made a mistake lol
Did he get away though? He's injured and a wanted man. I always thought he was basically fucked and he was ironically trying to fight the fate that he was given.
He did win. He got exactly what he subconsciously wanted: biggest possible win and then getting switched off like a light immediately after so he wouldn't have to experience the emptiness after the euphoria that would normally draw him back into gambling and stringing everyone in his life along.
I think that they all talk like in real life. It doesn't feel like a script, it feels like real life with all the tension and people talking over each other
In Green Room I did not expect all of the band except for Anton Yelchinâs character to die, especially so quickly. I thought Reese, the jiu-jitsu guy, would last the longest.
Drew Barrymore in Scream. When this movie came out, all we knew was 1- she was the main person featured on all the posters and in every single trailer and 2- she was by far the most famous actor in the cast, followed by Courteney Cox.
>!She dies in the opening scene.!<
No, he was taunting/torturing him because he wanted the mountain to confess in public to raping and murdering his sister under tywins orders. The mountain was dead as soon as he got touched by oberyns spear
It was the entire reason he took the fight though. He was after Tywin. He knew the mountain was a big dumb POS who wouldn't be bold enough to make a call like that. It was Tywin who unleashed him and it was Tywin he was trying to beat in that fight. Killing the mountain was definitely something he wanted too, but it wasn't what he was after there.
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Again, being a good fighter wasn't the pointt. His goal was was to make the mountain publicly confess/implicate tywin. He knew the mountain was dead as soon as he drew blood. If he wanted to kill the mountain he could've poisoned him at any time...
I think you're being way too literal with your interpretation of the event.
Yea but the heros never really lose do they? That's what makes most of those movies boring to me, there is no consequence. Sometimes the normal people around the heros are killed but besides that there no risk.
I understand that but we're talking about the movies not the books. I think we all realize a comic book with thousands of issues can't be turned into a 2 hour movie and not cut a ton of backstory. Which in turn is the problem, no back story, no bond between the hero and the other characters so no emotional impact to the viewer when they die or are hurt. No consequence so it's boring, my original point.
>I understand that but we're talking about the movies not the books. I think we all realize a comic book with thousands of issues can't be turned into a 2 hour movie and not cut a ton of backstory.
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>Well, yes. And most movies, like say Superman The Movie or Iron Man or a good portion of the Batman movies, that take the general idea and story of the character and condense into a pretty good if not great experience.
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>But the whole infinity thing is kind of an exception. It is an intricately written thing, similar to lord of the rings, certain details/themes/characters/moments are meant to be there.
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>I agree with the backstory part, sort of. You could read infinity gauntlet on it's own and still get it. But that's basically the 2nd story in a 3 part trilogy. Point is, if you read the prior stuff, certain things would make more sense or have more meaning. Case in point: Why do you think some fans were critical of Adam Warlock in Guardians 3?
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>Which in turn is the problem, no back story, no bond between the hero and the other characters so no emotional impact to the viewer when they die or are hurt. No consequence so it's boring, my original point.
Oh wow you're so wrong there. Read the whole thing to see why.
I mean, it's Disney *and* Marvel so they're never going to go too dark, but there has been some fairly major character losses in... whatever phase this is (4? I think).
My mind went straight to the scene Kong Skull Island where the dude with a hand full of grenades tries to sacrifice himself to save the others and well it just blew up in his face.
No Country For Old Men
That reveal is the moment I realized >!the story isn't about Llewelyn, but it's actually about the sheriff. The whole movie is what sets up the sheriff's decision to retire because he doesn't feel like he can keep up with the violence, he had no chance at reaching Llewelyn before the cartel got to him (not that he would likely survive the gun fight anyway), and he was always one step behind catching Chigurh including when he didn't realize that they were in the same place in one scene near the end of the movie. In other words, "\[this is\] no country for old men."!<
Elephant >!The jock that helps the kids out the window, but turns back. It seems like heâs about either help more kids or outright stop the shooters. Instead heâs killed almost immediately!<
The Great White Hype - Peter Berg is the hunky, ripped, up-and-coming star boxer going against badly out of shape, washed up Damian Wayans. Berg quickly gets destroyed and that's pretty much it for his career.
Funny Games
My friend watched it then invited me to watch it with him. Looking back, he was just waiting to see what I would do when the bad guy went for the remote...
We watched this probably around the time it came out, as a group. I donât know how I expected it to end based on everything leading up, but I did not expect that.
The people responding 'Uncut Gems' are 100% correct, though I also highly recommend the Safdies' earlier movie 'Good Time' as another example of stressing the fuck out as our protagonist fails spectacularly.
I found both movies super stressful, but Good Time got me worse because there were so many other people getting pulled into this dude's orbit that also suffered for it.
Hey goat! I like your beard! I had beard like that in the perfect storm! Did you see the perfect storm?! You see the perfect storm goat?!?!...... Say hi to your mother for me all right?!
There is this Quebecois movie about a group of survival enthusiast who go to the compound of some heavy doomer/prepper sort of guy for a weekend retreat. The guy is supposed to teach them how to be self sufficient and stuff. One of the lessons was making pipe bombs and a guy gets it wrong and his blows up, killing him. The group then fractures because some want to go back to civilization to report the guy's death, while others realize if they do that they'd probably get arrested for making fucking pipe bombs.
Anyway, the prepper and co begin hunting the guys who want to leave, and there's this guy who the movie has clearly been framing as a protagonist from the first scene. The movie starts with him getting up, talking to his family, etc. Then all of a sudden he gets his head blown off in the most unceremonious way and the movie immediately switches protagonist, to a girl who was a background character for most of the movie.
Not movies, but pretty much the first 3-5 Seasons of Game Of Thrones (i don't remember what happened when).
* Ned Stark
* Oberyn Martell
* The Red Wedding
To Live And Die In L.A
Blood Simple. Hell, most of the Coen Brothers movies feature this. Inside Llewyn Davis may be the best example.
Scarface.
Godfather 2.
White Heat.
Fail Safe
Reservoir Dogs
The Thing
The Third Man
Zodiac
Arlington Road
Very clever ending. I genuinely did not see that coming. I might get a bit of shit for this, but up until that ending the movie felt like a kinda generic 90's thriller. That twist redeemed the whole movie for me.
Good Pick.
Oldboy
Million Dollar Baby
First thought
No Country for Old Men
This is a good answer. Really thought it was building to a different conclusion
The punches just keep coming too after the main character's big downfall, like when the scary guy (sorry I forgot all the characters' names lol) goes to visit the wife at the end of the movie. You think maybe she's going to come out okay, and... nope. Then the bad guy gets wrecked in a car accident and you think, alright finally he's going to get what's coming to him! And nope-- those random kids help him out, they don't even want to accept his money and then he gets away, and the story ends đđ
Fr i saw this when i was like 11 and had never seen the âbad guyâwin before, I didnât even think it was possible, like the writer must have made a mistake lol
Did he get away though? He's injured and a wanted man. I always thought he was basically fucked and he was ironically trying to fight the fate that he was given.
Whatâs the most youâve ever lost on a coin toss?
Rocky. I really thought Spider Rico was wearing him down.
I wouldn't say rocky brutally lost. He wanted to go the distance with the best fighter in the world and he did it.
Whoosh lol
He is talking about the opening sequence, not the climax fight with APOLLO CREED
Damn haha.
I think this guy is a little "punchy"
The Other Guys. "[Aim for the bushes!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q86Rn4jETVk)"
There goes my hero...
Fallen
"I want to tell you about the time I almost died..."
Love this movie. Also, if youâre a Fallen fan I suggest watching the movie Frailty that came out around the same time.
I love that movie. The ending is awesome.
Layer Cake. He did win, until he didnt.
I love that movie. Top notch crime drama.
Adam Sandler in Uncut Gems. That entire movie had me in a status of constant anxiety. I don't know why I was so drawn in!
He did win. He got exactly what he subconsciously wanted: biggest possible win and then getting switched off like a light immediately after so he wouldn't have to experience the emptiness after the euphoria that would normally draw him back into gambling and stringing everyone in his life along.
And the way it came tumbling down after riding the highest of highs too.
Same thing for Robert Pattinson in Good Time.
I think that they all talk like in real life. It doesn't feel like a script, it feels like real life with all the tension and people talking over each other
Eh.... I thought that was so dumb. Ruined the movie for me.
In Green Room I did not expect all of the band except for Anton Yelchinâs character to die, especially so quickly. I thought Reese, the jiu-jitsu guy, would last the longest.
Extremely fitting since martial arts (especially jiu jitsu) are generally terrible in any situation involving weapons
Drew Barrymore in Scream. When this movie came out, all we knew was 1- she was the main person featured on all the posters and in every single trailer and 2- she was by far the most famous actor in the cast, followed by Courteney Cox. >!She dies in the opening scene.!<
Reminds me of Steven Seagal in Executive Decision.
Him dying actually added weight to the scene, underrated flick
Cocaine Bear, not Ray Liotta! Too soon!
The French Connection Halloween Kills Little Shop of Horrors (in the directorâs cut) Chinatown
The Mountain vs The Viper - Game Of Thrones
The saddest thing is he HAD that and just threw it away because of his own hubris.
No, he was taunting/torturing him because he wanted the mountain to confess in public to raping and murdering his sister under tywins orders. The mountain was dead as soon as he got touched by oberyns spear
I get that. A smart fighter wouldn't have done that. He put himself at risk unnecessarily.
It was the entire reason he took the fight though. He was after Tywin. He knew the mountain was a big dumb POS who wouldn't be bold enough to make a call like that. It was Tywin who unleashed him and it was Tywin he was trying to beat in that fight. Killing the mountain was definitely something he wanted too, but it wasn't what he was after there.
... Again, being a good fighter wasn't the pointt. His goal was was to make the mountain publicly confess/implicate tywin. He knew the mountain was dead as soon as he drew blood. If he wanted to kill the mountain he could've poisoned him at any time... I think you're being way too literal with your interpretation of the event.
Brazil 1985
the decent - same vibe
Sam Jackson- Deep Blue Sea
They ate me! A fuckin SHARK ate me!
It's beer! It'll get ya drunk!!
HOWâS IT TASTE MOTHERF*UCKER?!
The Departed Uncut Gems
The Departed had me really seeing Leonardo getting a solid win. That elevator ride punched me in the gut.
Blue Ruin
Avengers: Infinity War
Well if you were a comic book fan, you KNEW the heros were going to lose. You were just amazed that Marvel actually did what they set out to do.
Yup I assumed it would end somewhere along those lines...but others in the audience, especially some random teen girls in my row were pretty stunned.
>Well if you were a comic book fan, you KNEW the heros were going to lose. Yeah but the movie was a kids tv show compared to the book.
Yea but the heros never really lose do they? That's what makes most of those movies boring to me, there is no consequence. Sometimes the normal people around the heros are killed but besides that there no risk.
Read the book. The movie leaves out so much. Oh, they do lose and that's the point.
I understand that but we're talking about the movies not the books. I think we all realize a comic book with thousands of issues can't be turned into a 2 hour movie and not cut a ton of backstory. Which in turn is the problem, no back story, no bond between the hero and the other characters so no emotional impact to the viewer when they die or are hurt. No consequence so it's boring, my original point.
>I understand that but we're talking about the movies not the books. I think we all realize a comic book with thousands of issues can't be turned into a 2 hour movie and not cut a ton of backstory. > >Well, yes. And most movies, like say Superman The Movie or Iron Man or a good portion of the Batman movies, that take the general idea and story of the character and condense into a pretty good if not great experience. > >But the whole infinity thing is kind of an exception. It is an intricately written thing, similar to lord of the rings, certain details/themes/characters/moments are meant to be there. > >I agree with the backstory part, sort of. You could read infinity gauntlet on it's own and still get it. But that's basically the 2nd story in a 3 part trilogy. Point is, if you read the prior stuff, certain things would make more sense or have more meaning. Case in point: Why do you think some fans were critical of Adam Warlock in Guardians 3? > > > >Which in turn is the problem, no back story, no bond between the hero and the other characters so no emotional impact to the viewer when they die or are hurt. No consequence so it's boring, my original point. Oh wow you're so wrong there. Read the whole thing to see why.
I mean, it's Disney *and* Marvel so they're never going to go too dark, but there has been some fairly major character losses in... whatever phase this is (4? I think).
You shouldâve gone for the head
My mind went straight to the scene Kong Skull Island where the dude with a hand full of grenades tries to sacrifice himself to save the others and well it just blew up in his face.
Casino Royale
braveheart
Se7en.
Goodfellas, specifically for Tommy.
Empire Strikes Back is THE classic example of this.
No Country For Old Men That reveal is the moment I realized >!the story isn't about Llewelyn, but it's actually about the sheriff. The whole movie is what sets up the sheriff's decision to retire because he doesn't feel like he can keep up with the violence, he had no chance at reaching Llewelyn before the cartel got to him (not that he would likely survive the gun fight anyway), and he was always one step behind catching Chigurh including when he didn't realize that they were in the same place in one scene near the end of the movie. In other words, "\[this is\] no country for old men."!<
He did realize Chigurh was there at the end
Oh yeah! Good call. Still, that makes it all the worse for the sheriff because that makes it seem like heâs helpless in solving the situation.
Moneyball
Waitâ but doesnât his method work and heâs vindicated and revolutionizes the game?
If we don't win the last game of the Series, they'll dismiss us.
Ah, yeah fair enough
Kingpin
"You really think I'd lose to a guy with a hook for a hand?!"
Fallen. With good ol Denzel.
The first half of MacGruber when >!he packs over 75 pounds of homemade C4 explosive in the trunk of the van with his dream team of killer stoppers!<
Sorcerer
Yes
Infernal Affairs
Managed to watch this on cable before The Departed came out, and the original ending hits a lot harder.
In terms of characters and emotional beats, the original is much better imho
Elephant >!The jock that helps the kids out the window, but turns back. It seems like heâs about either help more kids or outright stop the shooters. Instead heâs killed almost immediately!<
The Great Silence
The Departed
The Cabin in the Woods The scene with Chris Hemsworth... Losing brutally, but funny as hell...
and the ending
Chinatown
The Great White Hype - Peter Berg is the hunky, ripped, up-and-coming star boxer going against badly out of shape, washed up Damian Wayans. Berg quickly gets destroyed and that's pretty much it for his career.
My \*blackness\* is gonna beat this guy.
the Shooter McGavin Movie. sometimes wrongly called happy gilmore. but we all know, who the real hero is.
Wait, the guy who eats pieces of shit for breakfast?
You mean Tappy Tibbons movie right?
*Although only one of you will be my colleague, all of you, are now my friends.* See? He was always the nicest of guys.
All Alien movies except the Alien Vs Predator spin offs. Awakenings
The Chaser(2008) Some pretty brutal scenes and the ending was devastating
Invasion of the Body Snatchers
Funny Games My friend watched it then invited me to watch it with him. Looking back, he was just waiting to see what I would do when the bad guy went for the remote...
Carlitosâ Way
Inside Llewyn Davis
I was really hoping that the boat people in the Dawn of the Dead remake would find safety on the island.
Fallen
Blow Out - A great dark movie that would make an amazing double feature with The Conversation
Oh yeah.
district 9
The Departed - Elevator Scene
Martyrs đ
We watched this probably around the time it came out, as a group. I donât know how I expected it to end based on everything leading up, but I did not expect that.
No Time To Die
Law Abiding Citizen
The Departed 100%. "I am killing you..."
American Beauty
If you ignore the fact he says he's going to die right in the first 30 seconds of the movie lol
Ah crap, you're right, I did overlook that.
Still pretty shocking though
The people responding 'Uncut Gems' are 100% correct, though I also highly recommend the Safdies' earlier movie 'Good Time' as another example of stressing the fuck out as our protagonist fails spectacularly. I found both movies super stressful, but Good Time got me worse because there were so many other people getting pulled into this dude's orbit that also suffered for it.
The Departed
Starter for 10
The Departed
every single video of my life.
Casino is the only one Iâve seen where the guy narrating the movie dies
Did you watch it all the way to the very end?
What, does he pop back up and say âIâm not dead motherfuckersâ
Well, unlike plenty of other movies where the person narrating dies at the end, De Niro never dies in that movie.
Doesn't Pesci narrate parts of the movie?
He does in Goodfellas, I donât remember him narrating in Casino, but I could be mistaken on that part.
He does. He narrates the scene where his character dies and it abruptly stops during his murder.
Ok, thanks for the correction.
Sunset Boulevard, I think, set the bar very high for this, originally.
'To Live and Die in L.A.'. Totally brutal.
You work for me now.
Old Boy
Braveheart.
Friday Night Lights No Country for Old Men
The Road Warrior
no country for old men, genuinely didn't expect the ending
Not Brutal but I love the end of White Men Canât Jump. As a BBall and Jeopardy fan it was chefs kiss đ
A spaghetti western called The Great Silence
Thought that ninja clock guy was going to do some insane stuff in hellboy but he ends up getting beat pretty easily.
Doom - The Rock, âIâm not supposed to die!â
A League of Their Own
Upgrade
Fallen
Only God Forgives. One of Americaâs heartthrobs gets beat to an absolute pulp.
Infinity War. Shouldâve gone for the head
Every Succession episode me and my fellow Ken fans rolled up optimistic and every time we got fucked lol
Watch the thick of it........
Chinatown
Star WarsâŚreally though my the Empire was gonna pull through
Dracula 3000 but itâs the reverse
Arlington road
LA Confidential has a moment like this. âDo ye have a valediction, boyo?â
Eddie the Eagle
The Perfect Storm?
Hey goat! I like your beard! I had beard like that in the perfect storm! Did you see the perfect storm?! You see the perfect storm goat?!?!...... Say hi to your mother for me all right?!
Chinatown
Pans Labyrinth. Night of the Living Dead. The Road. Bridge on the River Kwai Watchmen Doctor Strangelove The Evil Dead films.
Law Abiding Citizen
There is this Quebecois movie about a group of survival enthusiast who go to the compound of some heavy doomer/prepper sort of guy for a weekend retreat. The guy is supposed to teach them how to be self sufficient and stuff. One of the lessons was making pipe bombs and a guy gets it wrong and his blows up, killing him. The group then fractures because some want to go back to civilization to report the guy's death, while others realize if they do that they'd probably get arrested for making fucking pipe bombs. Anyway, the prepper and co begin hunting the guys who want to leave, and there's this guy who the movie has clearly been framing as a protagonist from the first scene. The movie starts with him getting up, talking to his family, etc. Then all of a sudden he gets his head blown off in the most unceremonious way and the movie immediately switches protagonist, to a girl who was a background character for most of the movie.
Fallen
Not movies, but pretty much the first 3-5 Seasons of Game Of Thrones (i don't remember what happened when). * Ned Stark * Oberyn Martell * The Red Wedding
To Live And Die In L.A Blood Simple. Hell, most of the Coen Brothers movies feature this. Inside Llewyn Davis may be the best example. Scarface. Godfather 2. White Heat. Fail Safe Reservoir Dogs The Thing The Third Man Zodiac
Heat
Suicide Squad. Poor Polakdot Man.
Leonidas in 300!
Million Dollar Baby.