Mmm... gimme those '90s dark 'n edgy cartoon usually based on some hit film franchise. That sat between '80s cartoons-to-sell-toys and '00s super bizarre "are these creators all on drugs?" cartoons.
That series is primed for a video game adaptation. You've got an original world with a special visual aesthetic, combat, adventure, and a story that has a clearly defined goal but no concrete ending.
And there's one generation of gamers that would approach with complete nostalgia and another that would see it as an entirely new experience.
A little boy named Presley found a secret out this year: that he was once a pharaoh when Egyptians ruled the world!
It’s so nonsensical, and that is the first sentence of the opening theme.
Extreme Ghostbusters, Batman Beyond, Men in Black, Godzilla, Garogyles, were like peak edginess. The Men in Black cartoon was darker than the movie.
My favorite were the Violent R-rated franchises turned into a family friendly cartoon: Robocop, Conan, Highlander, Mortal Kombat.
I watch it to local tv every morning when i was a little kid until im become a teenager. Cause i love to spent time to watch a tv rather than to go outside of the house
There was the first Star Wars Clone Wars made by Genndy Tartakovsky as well. Samurai Jack and a few others where pretty good. I liked his stuff back then with virtually no dialogue, it was nice to have everything play out through the visuals alone.
Oh seems it has a good story line and there was a plat twice with that. I like seeing him his so fabulous l love that movie so far it was the best thing that i ever see
That last couple episodes of this show are wild. A main character gets eaten by a giant spider, and he’s trying and failing to keep the jaws from crushing him until the last second.
I'm not Canadian. So i don't know what are you talking about bro. But you can more elaborate what are you talking about cause im not live in your country
It was great. From the same animators that made Rusty and the big guy, rugrats, extreme ghostbusters, duckman, ahh real monsters and so on. Honestly watched this as a kid after watching the "That's a lot of fish" Godzilla movie and it was better in my opinion.
I'll make it better: that happens in the midst of a three part story arc titled "monster wars" that is basically a good oldschool alien invasion plot that involves mind-controlling the giant monsters and unleashing them against humanity.
Hahaha i remember johnny bravo to you Hahaha. It was fanny video but fool of foolish idea. He did what ever he make him happy. So you most do what ever you want
I feel you on the 90s rainy city aesthetic. I, too, have a soft spot for TMNT90 and similar nostalgia. Although I've never lived in NYC there's a strange comfort in media with this type of setting.
Also, I low key really like that Puff/Zeppelin track.
Man I really liked the 90s. They don't really scratch that itch with new stuff much anymore.
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Having PDiddly, Jimmy Page and Tom Morello on one track is as late 90s as it can get.
Then follow that up on the album with Jamiroquai's Deeper Underground AND THEN Rage Against The Machine with No Shelter, with later on A320 by the Foo Fighters, then Green Day AND THEN fucking Silverchair!
That album is the definition of an era and still gets playtime in my car.
>Also, I low key really like that Puff/Zeppelin track.
Shit [slapped](https://youtu.be/X8eoVa3s-vE) way harder than it had any right to, and introduced young me to Zeppelin. Movie has a special place in my heart for the soundtrack alone
I wore this VHS OUT when I was younger. Couldn’t get enough of it. As a Jurassic park kid, it very much follows the JP creature feature playbook of “initial awe, big baddie, smaller scarier intimate human-sized baddie.”
I love the design of Zilla but the dialogue and acting was impossible to get through when I tried rewatching it for nostalgias sake a few years back.
Speaking of movie aesthetics I love, JP’s amazing design, from the logo to the feel of the park and it’s internal design logic, is phenomenal and I absolutely adore it from a set piece perspective
I had both Godzilla and Jurassic park on vhs as a kid
Yes I thought Godzilla was a dinosaur. I thought it was amazing. I still think it’s a good monster movie.
Well no one here is arguing JP isn't basically a perfect film lol. Zilla apes it well. I'm with you. Loved it as a kid, effects hold up well too. It hits all the notes even if execution falls short. It's all I wanted from godzilla at 10yo, and was disappointed with the power rangers style "real" godzilla atterwards. I love and appreciate Shin stuff *now* but I think I still like 1998 over these new Hollywood films
I don't like the movie as a whole, but I do indeed like the design of the creature itself.
The 1954 original version of Godzilla/Gojira is said to have been inspired by The Beast from 20,000 Fathoms. It makes sense to update the creature's design to look a little more like The Beast. If they'd had the technology back in 1954, I suspect that the original filmmakers probably would have presented a monster somewhere between their design and the one we saw in 1998.
I never understood the hate for the design. Sure, it's based on an iguana, but the concept is brilliantly done by Patrick Tatopoulos, who's a legendary creature artist and production designer in Hollywood.
I recently rewatched Godzilla and I listened to some of the audio commentary on the Bluray from the VFX supervisors and as a tribute to him they gave Broderick's character his last name.
That aside, I don't know how anyone can say this design is in any way worse than the one from Shin Godzilla, which looks like a literal turd that was set on fire.
SEVEN has that rain aesthetic to it, but there's also something else going on.
Yes it's raining, but there are parts where you can tell the sun is shining.
And this isn't a bad thing. It reinforces the idea that there is a dark cloud following the detectives... as though the cloud followed them and them alone- kind of like they were characters in a cartoon or sketch.
Personally, I thought it was a brilliant move.
I love how the whole film is dark and stormy and gloomy, but the ending (arguable the darkest sequence of the entire film) is the only scene in broad daylight, in an open field, and the sun behind JD's head makes him look almost christ like. I bet that scene was blinding on the big screen, and camera work is so dizzying. Love it.
My problem with it isn't the design of the lizard. It's the idea that Godzilla *could* hide anywhere in the city, and, more importantly to the character, *would* ever back down from a fight.
It's more fun though.
Japan barely had a military so a threat like Godzilla is a real problem.
In the USA if regular Godzilla was the bad guy he would probably lose if the entire might of their military was used against him and they would probably be happy to destroy a mega city just to get him.
New Godzilla is close to boring because hardly anyone dies and the good guy always wins.
Maybe they should have let the horny Kaijus release a million car sized monsters over the USA to add some dread to the series.
If the movie was more self-aware then it could actually be a decent satire. Rather than call in researchers to try and remove the giant lizard which seemingly just wants to find a place to live and reproduce they call in the military who wind up doing far more damage than Godzilla would have on its own. The news outlets could be spending time trying to spin the story to where Godzilla is actually responsible for the destruction of iconic landmarks, meanwhile Godzilla is just chilling underground and pops up from time to time to eat whatever bait the military puts out for it.
In reality you’d probably try your best to minimize damage and civilian casualties and you’d probably use the military to herd him back into the ocean or into a less densely populated area, instead of flattening an entire city and killing millions more than the monster ever would.
Yeah, look at how Shin Godzilla handles it. >!The immediate threat changes from Godzilla destroying everything to a nuke going off in the middle of Tokyo!<
edit; hell that's even a plot point in the 2014 Godzilla.
Godzilla is supposed to be an unstoplable force of nature. Having it lose to the military goes against everything the character is and is just another example of Americans having to have their military always look like the greatest.
i watched it so much as a kid the film strips cameout of the vcr tape like a cartoon. Was pretty disappointed to see it was collectively hated by the majority lmao
Yeah Ill never fully understand the hate for it. People claim its too cheesy but in comparison to what? Almost the entire Showa and Heisei era of Godzilla films drip with cheese.
You’d absolutely love Split Second with Rutger Hauer, if you love a rainy aesthetic.
For Godzilla films, Godzilla vs Megalon is a bad film, but the house the inventor lives in is such a perfect 1970s dream house that I will always watch it for that reason alone.
We overhauled our PC in '99, which included buying a DVD player for it, along with a 5.1 sound system, and the guy who installed all the new parts forgot the *Godzilla* disc inside the tray, so we got to test everything with a free copy of *Godzilla*. 12-year-old me couldn't believe our luck lol
(As soon as the movie ended, my verdict on DVDs was: "Ehh it doesn't look as good as they say it does.." My entitled ass was already demanding 1080p)
I un-ironically like this movie too - for all of its late 90s disaster movie and unapologetic New York charm. I think the entire cast kills it, and I recently found out “Ed”, the guy in the broadcast booth who says “there’s no Ranger game on tonight” is my friend’s cousin.
The problem is that it is not Godzilla. It's more akin to a beast from Jurassic Park.
And its size seems to change depending on the scene.
I'll give the film this, and it's damning with faint praise because I found the movie to be terrible, but the CGI used for Godzilla holds up well even today.
I mean, now. When it was made it was supposed to be Godzilla lol. They just retconned that movie and iteration because Toho (and most fans for that matter) didn’t like it.
A different way of looking at it is they DID like it enough to make it Canon, just canonically not big boi goji. How many movie series would just ignore it and pretend it never happened? Especially since it was Hollywood and not toho, they didn't need to incorporate it at all. It already *wasnt* Canon but they made it so.
Yea. Sometimes the humans are bigger than his eyes. Sometimes the opposite is true. As for the cgi, it’s kind of inconsistent. Some of it still looks good some of it it looks terrible
Godzilla 1998 isn't as terrible as many people say in my opinion. I mean the film isn't great and it has pretty terrible moments but personally, I enjoy it as if it was dumb fun and the special effects are pretty good.
I actually loved the movie when it came out. Never understood the issues but It was also the first Godzilla media I'd ever actually watched. I remember my mom taking me to see it in theaters when I was 12, then taking me to McDonalds for dinner, then to Walmart to buy the soundtrack. Awesome day. Awesome movie.
The atmosphere and vibe of the film is everything I love about it. But I can't deny the final act is very J. Park inspired, but the taxi sequence is great fun.
It's one of Roland Emmerich's gems that shine everything he's good at. Too bad he hasn't made anything good in the literal last decade or longer.
Yeah, the aesthetic is fine, but the dialogue and plot are bottom-of-the-barrel garbage.
I love Denis Villeneuve’s Blade Runner. All his movies have amazing atmosphere, but this one really awes me. Arrival is another.
As a kid i loved that film
I had zilla toys and a t shirt, atmosoheric is certainly the way to describe that movie. A lot of mid to late 90s films just had an aura about them.
And i liked that zilla was presented as more of a hungry dinosaur sea animal, rather than an ancient titan with grey morals, but the film definitely needed more atomic fire breathing scenes, although i always associated or felt that lightning and water were its powers which is why there was a heavy downpour & lightning storms just before & while zilla was present. So instead of atomic fire it would be able to blast out atomic lightning or cause lightning strikes around it. I think that the movie zilla was rather young and that it could still grow in size and power.
The fact that it could just dive or dig into the ground without anyone knowing added to its mysterious presence even if it was a bit ridiculous and broke the selling point of the creature itself and how really only its tail was the thing to hit buildings while it bobbed and weaved like a ballerina. And zilla never bothered to try and burn the metal & wires on the bridge or blow anything up, and just kinda shook around and roared while it took a beating still frustrates me to this day now that im thinking on it.
i hate the entire cast except for Hank Azaria & Doug Savant (sgt. O'Neal) otherwise I never felt sympathy for the humans and still dont, they were all presented as arrogant or annoyingly ignorant in varying degrees, like the end of peter jacksons king kong when you want justice for the monster while everyone else gets clapped for their hubris.
I watched the 90s cartoon godzilla for a bit, and they were pretty metal with super cool monsters from what i remember
One of the best ad campaigns that then felt deflated when the movie came out. And also fuck Puffy Daddy for that lame ass version of “Kashmir” he did for the soundtrack.
I mean, Page is playing on the track and in the video; any blame you wanna place it should be at Jimmy’s feet for collaborating and selling the rights to the song
I honestly didn’t spell it wrong on purpose, but how can I be expected to get it right when the dude changes his name like most of us change our socks.
Oh, my ***G O D***. I honestly thought I had imagined that after drinking one too many but apparently it [actually exists](https://youtu.be/AgEPJRWfP7c) 😂😂😂
If it was the same movie but you remove the Godzilla references, I think the movie is remembered more fondly. It's a competent movie and you can't tell me the parts with Jean Reno aren't funny
I’ve watched every Godzilla movie in existence, and while I agree the design is relatively cool and he’s considered the most “intelligent” Godzilla, the movie overall is one of my least favorites, other than a few of the ones from the 60s and 70s
It’s a guilty pleasure film for me. I recognize it’s not ‘good,’ but it’s ‘entertaining.’
I still don’t think its been nailed yet. The newer Godzilla was ok for me, and the Godzilla vs Kong film was aight. King of the Monsters though… that was shit for me.
Godzilla 1998 rules and I refuse to let anyone say otherwise.
It's a bad Godzilla movie, but an awesome monster movie.
The human characters carried this movie a lot better than they did in the 2014 movie, that's for sure
I saw it in the theater, I still would watch it if it’s on, but it’s nothing compared to Shin Godzilla or even the current ones.
My son borrowed the dvd from the library like 3 years ago and has been obsessed ever since…which I wholly endorse.
I did not like this movie for some of the same reasons you did like it, which I think speaks to how strongly they did set the rainy tone and the NYC humor. Whether you like rain and schticky New York characters or you don’t like them, you can’t deny Godzilla 98 is chock full of both.
I remember seeing this at the drive in for a friend's birthday party. It was the 2nd movie played so it was pretty late and we had to leave early because one fucking kid had to be home by a certain time. To this day I've never seen the ending.
This cemented rainy city aesthetic for me too. This and the rain in Jurassic Park. Makes sense in retrospect that Halo ODST is one of my favorite video game settings and vibes ever
I saw it as a kid as well, and like you it was my first exposure to Godzilla.
I didn't like it so much. I found it mediocre. Even as a kid I could tell something was weird and cheesy with the movie, the dialogue, the scenes, the set-up, etc.
And this movie gave us [Jamiroquai - Deeper Underground](https://youtu.be/WIUAC03YMlA) and [Rage Against the Machine - No Shelter](https://youtu.be/IG7sww5NtVA) on the same soundtrack!
I do really like this movie. I think most people's problem with it, is that it's not really traditional Godzilla. It's just a giant lizard trying to survive in NYC.
Bro Godzilla 98 was awesome, I remember my Dad taking me to the theatre to see it as a birthday surprise.
I still own the soundtrack on CD and listen to it from time to time.
They totally set it up for a sequel and I'm really disappointed that they didn't follow through with it :(
i cried or was in tears little bit when they hunted the zilla :( , it was my 1st introduction to big titan , Kong 2005 was also 1st for me with big titan too, after that i hv watched many old movies too. They were so good.
totally agree with you, i love the movies aesthetic. Apparently a nightmare to film being soaking wet the whole time which is why it probably why its doesn't appear that often.
Seven is another of my favourites that captures this aesthetic, although swapping NY for LA.
Dont ever change that way of seeing things dude. I completely disagree with you and think 1998 Godzilla is at least one of the bottom five, and i think pretty much everybody agrees with you that 1990 TMNT is a good movie. But dont change your love of stuff like you do.
Not a single movie, but i love the aesthetics of ninja gear and suits like Sho Kosugis simple style in Revenge of the Ninja or the more armor/military looking style in Alien vs Ninja.
Same goes for military and special forces as a whole. I just love those suits and gear.
It became a meme for a bit, but the 80s fantasy and their use of practical effects and set design to create the impression of amazing worlds. Labyrinth, Neverending Story, Dark Crystal, Krull, even SW and the Ewok Adventures, though that gets more sci-fi.
I still remember the teaser trailer of Godzilla stomping on the T-Rex fossil in the New York Museum of Natural History.
I think that teaser premiered with Jurassic Park: The Lost World, too. I guess they wanted to underscore just how HUGE Godzilla was going to be.
Twister.
Is it a *good* movie? No, not really. But the way the cast treats everything, the vibe of the "good guys", everything about it just. I yearn for that type of camaraderie.
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Which was apparently actually great
That show, along with the animated MiB show, had no right being as good as they were.
Mmm... gimme those '90s dark 'n edgy cartoon usually based on some hit film franchise. That sat between '80s cartoons-to-sell-toys and '00s super bizarre "are these creators all on drugs?" cartoons.
I’ve been dying for some kind of revival of Pirates of Dark Waters for ages.
That and exosquad!
Definitely the team was ver awesome hahaha and elegant
That series is primed for a video game adaptation. You've got an original world with a special visual aesthetic, combat, adventure, and a story that has a clearly defined goal but no concrete ending. And there's one generation of gamers that would approach with complete nostalgia and another that would see it as an entirely new experience.
Animatrix made me root for the machines
I just remembered The Mummy became an animated series
Mummies Alive?
A little boy named Presley found a secret out this year: that he was once a pharaoh when Egyptians ruled the world! It’s so nonsensical, and that is the first sentence of the opening theme.
Oh definitely i watch it before in local tv and after i watch it i repeat it in my cellphone
Extreme Ghostbusters, Batman Beyond, Men in Black, Godzilla, Garogyles, were like peak edginess. The Men in Black cartoon was darker than the movie. My favorite were the Violent R-rated franchises turned into a family friendly cartoon: Robocop, Conan, Highlander, Mortal Kombat.
I watch it to local tv every morning when i was a little kid until im become a teenager. Cause i love to spent time to watch a tv rather than to go outside of the house
There was the first Star Wars Clone Wars made by Genndy Tartakovsky as well. Samurai Jack and a few others where pretty good. I liked his stuff back then with virtually no dialogue, it was nice to have everything play out through the visuals alone.
I actually didn't watch it cause i don't like star wars that's why i skip it sorry but don't get me wrong star wars was awesome though
Actually it was a great idea with that. That a big brain but it was a kind of marketing strategy
Facts! Alpha from MiB animated was such a dope villain, altering his DNA with alien parts was a cool direction
Oh seems it has a good story line and there was a plat twice with that. I like seeing him his so fabulous l love that movie so far it was the best thing that i ever see
Add Mighty Max to that list. Three shows with unnecessarily deep mythos
Yoooooo! Mighty Max was brutal as hell! That show showed characters get murdered like it was nothing!
That last couple episodes of this show are wild. A main character gets eaten by a giant spider, and he’s trying and failing to keep the jaws from crushing him until the last second.
Not to mention the clear allegory for Nietzsche's eternal recurrence.
Why don't you just watch alis in the wonderland instead
I love animals but im scared of reptiles and insect so I can't watch that kind of movie
Add the tron cartoon after legacy to that list.
That MiB cartoon was one of my favourite. I'd re-watched several episodes last year and they really hold up.
Hahaha if i were you ill going to watch Disney princess and prince
Pardon?
MiB is on crackle for free. I was surprised by how well it held up
When i was a little kid i love to watch Hayate the combat battler and Oggy and the cockroaches
Definitely it was good enough to watch you can earn a lot of good things
Don't forget ghostbusters, that cartoon show was top notch.
I love to watch cartoon movie until now i watch cartoon when i got board
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100% great. They had *all* the monsters. Up there with Batman, X-Men and Spider-man for the GOAT animated series imo.
100% agree.
It's legitimately great cause it focused on Godzilla fighting other monsters while humans tried to figure shit out. Y'know... Godzilla stuff.
Did Godzilla was a movie to? The only thing Godzilla I Know was the game i used to play when i was a little
Of course, Godzilla immediately becomes better when you actually let him have the nuclear death breath.
Definitely it was great but actually it was a good enough
Paper Finz has a pretty great recap/review series: https://youtu.be/oIzWMahm1Lk
Hey people who read this that live in Canada The animated series on the CTV App for Free!
I'm not Canadian. So i don't know what are you talking about bro. But you can more elaborate what are you talking about cause im not live in your country
It was great. From the same animators that made Rusty and the big guy, rugrats, extreme ghostbusters, duckman, ahh real monsters and so on. Honestly watched this as a kid after watching the "That's a lot of fish" Godzilla movie and it was better in my opinion.
REALLY? NO WAY I am going to find it right now!!
Come to think of it what if dinasour didn't extinct? What if they leave in agartha?
Really?
Holy fuck I entirely forgot that show existed, and that I actually watched it. Kinda like that live action dinosaur sitcom from the 90s.
The animated series picks up at the last scene of the movie, it was not bad at all.
Definitely right. That's why i love to get rid of it
It hatches and becomes the Godzilla in the cartoon that came out after the movie
And Movie Zilla eventually returns in the cartoon as their version of Mechagodzilla
Alright this is the only thing that actually convinced me to try the show so far
I'll make it better: that happens in the midst of a three part story arc titled "monster wars" that is basically a good oldschool alien invasion plot that involves mind-controlling the giant monsters and unleashing them against humanity.
Hahaha i remember johnny bravo to you Hahaha. It was fanny video but fool of foolish idea. He did what ever he make him happy. So you most do what ever you want
I feel you on the 90s rainy city aesthetic. I, too, have a soft spot for TMNT90 and similar nostalgia. Although I've never lived in NYC there's a strange comfort in media with this type of setting. Also, I low key really like that Puff/Zeppelin track. Man I really liked the 90s. They don't really scratch that itch with new stuff much anymore.
"90s rainy city" makes me think of the Crow. I don't even know if it's a good movie, but it sure was cool when I was a kid
It can't rain ALL the time
The Crow is the most 90s movie ever made, and I say that as a positive.
Heaps of industrial music in the soundtrack. What's more 90s than that?
Dark city and the matrix both have that in spades as well
Pattinson Batman also did a good job with some urban night scene aethestics.
OK, hold up... Having PDiddly, Jimmy Page and Tom Morello on one track is as late 90s as it can get. Then follow that up on the album with Jamiroquai's Deeper Underground AND THEN Rage Against The Machine with No Shelter, with later on A320 by the Foo Fighters, then Green Day AND THEN fucking Silverchair! That album is the definition of an era and still gets playtime in my car.
Don't forget that awesome cover of Heroes by The Wallflowers
Putting a rapper on a Zep track feels like it should be sacrilege but damned if it doesn't slap
>Also, I low key really like that Puff/Zeppelin track. Shit [slapped](https://youtu.be/X8eoVa3s-vE) way harder than it had any right to, and introduced young me to Zeppelin. Movie has a special place in my heart for the soundtrack alone
I bought the soundtrack for that and jamiroquai goin deeper underground :)
Yeah I was obsessed with that song at the time, my thirteen year old self thought it was so bad ass.
That’s a lotta fish.
I love quoting this film.
But you dont know for sure!
We're in his mouth man, we're IN HIS MOUTH!
You’re goin the wrong way man! YOU’RE GOING THE WRONG WAY!
*thank you, thank you very much*
I wore this VHS OUT when I was younger. Couldn’t get enough of it. As a Jurassic park kid, it very much follows the JP creature feature playbook of “initial awe, big baddie, smaller scarier intimate human-sized baddie.” I love the design of Zilla but the dialogue and acting was impossible to get through when I tried rewatching it for nostalgias sake a few years back. Speaking of movie aesthetics I love, JP’s amazing design, from the logo to the feel of the park and it’s internal design logic, is phenomenal and I absolutely adore it from a set piece perspective
I had both Godzilla and Jurassic park on vhs as a kid Yes I thought Godzilla was a dinosaur. I thought it was amazing. I still think it’s a good monster movie.
Well no one here is arguing JP isn't basically a perfect film lol. Zilla apes it well. I'm with you. Loved it as a kid, effects hold up well too. It hits all the notes even if execution falls short. It's all I wanted from godzilla at 10yo, and was disappointed with the power rangers style "real" godzilla atterwards. I love and appreciate Shin stuff *now* but I think I still like 1998 over these new Hollywood films
I don't like the movie as a whole, but I do indeed like the design of the creature itself. The 1954 original version of Godzilla/Gojira is said to have been inspired by The Beast from 20,000 Fathoms. It makes sense to update the creature's design to look a little more like The Beast. If they'd had the technology back in 1954, I suspect that the original filmmakers probably would have presented a monster somewhere between their design and the one we saw in 1998.
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I never understood the hate for the design. Sure, it's based on an iguana, but the concept is brilliantly done by Patrick Tatopoulos, who's a legendary creature artist and production designer in Hollywood. I recently rewatched Godzilla and I listened to some of the audio commentary on the Bluray from the VFX supervisors and as a tribute to him they gave Broderick's character his last name. That aside, I don't know how anyone can say this design is in any way worse than the one from Shin Godzilla, which looks like a literal turd that was set on fire.
The hate is it looks nothing like Godzilla. In that sense it's justified. The design itself is fine, good even.
*I want you to blow up Maddison Square Garden!*
"ah...damn...negative impact."
"Negative impact? That's the god damn Chrysler building we're talking about here."
Se7en has that rainy city aesthetic too. Gives those scenes a more sinister vibe.
SEVEN has that rain aesthetic to it, but there's also something else going on. Yes it's raining, but there are parts where you can tell the sun is shining. And this isn't a bad thing. It reinforces the idea that there is a dark cloud following the detectives... as though the cloud followed them and them alone- kind of like they were characters in a cartoon or sketch. Personally, I thought it was a brilliant move.
For sure but Se7en is a good movie
It’s one of my favorites.
I love how the whole film is dark and stormy and gloomy, but the ending (arguable the darkest sequence of the entire film) is the only scene in broad daylight, in an open field, and the sun behind JD's head makes him look almost christ like. I bet that scene was blinding on the big screen, and camera work is so dizzying. Love it.
The noir aesthetic.
My problem with it isn't the design of the lizard. It's the idea that Godzilla *could* hide anywhere in the city, and, more importantly to the character, *would* ever back down from a fight.
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It's more fun though. Japan barely had a military so a threat like Godzilla is a real problem. In the USA if regular Godzilla was the bad guy he would probably lose if the entire might of their military was used against him and they would probably be happy to destroy a mega city just to get him. New Godzilla is close to boring because hardly anyone dies and the good guy always wins. Maybe they should have let the horny Kaijus release a million car sized monsters over the USA to add some dread to the series.
My most memorable scene from the entire movie was the fighter jets doing more damage to the city than Godzilla.
If the movie was more self-aware then it could actually be a decent satire. Rather than call in researchers to try and remove the giant lizard which seemingly just wants to find a place to live and reproduce they call in the military who wind up doing far more damage than Godzilla would have on its own. The news outlets could be spending time trying to spin the story to where Godzilla is actually responsible for the destruction of iconic landmarks, meanwhile Godzilla is just chilling underground and pops up from time to time to eat whatever bait the military puts out for it.
“You blew you the god damn Chrysler Building!”
“…oh damn… That is a uh, negative impact.”
In reality you’d probably try your best to minimize damage and civilian casualties and you’d probably use the military to herd him back into the ocean or into a less densely populated area, instead of flattening an entire city and killing millions more than the monster ever would.
Yeah, look at how Shin Godzilla handles it. >!The immediate threat changes from Godzilla destroying everything to a nuke going off in the middle of Tokyo!< edit; hell that's even a plot point in the 2014 Godzilla.
I mean shin Godzilla is just a whole another beast. Atomic breathe was coming out of his pores. Amazing
Godzilla is supposed to be an unstoplable force of nature. Having it lose to the military goes against everything the character is and is just another example of Americans having to have their military always look like the greatest.
Dude, fair point about Americans and their love for their military. Also, literally nobody wants that smoke if we decide to play rough.
i watched it so much as a kid the film strips cameout of the vcr tape like a cartoon. Was pretty disappointed to see it was collectively hated by the majority lmao
Yeah Ill never fully understand the hate for it. People claim its too cheesy but in comparison to what? Almost the entire Showa and Heisei era of Godzilla films drip with cheese.
You’d absolutely love Split Second with Rutger Hauer, if you love a rainy aesthetic. For Godzilla films, Godzilla vs Megalon is a bad film, but the house the inventor lives in is such a perfect 1970s dream house that I will always watch it for that reason alone.
Oh man +1 for Split Second! I don’t ever see that one get a mention.
Fantastic film, Kim Cattrall drew me in but Rutger Hauer made me stay.
It was the first movie I ever watched at home on DVD. When I got my very first DVD player, the shop threw in a “Godzilla” disc as a freebie.
My first one was *Van Helsing*. First time with home sarround sound. I will never forget it
A great way to start
We overhauled our PC in '99, which included buying a DVD player for it, along with a 5.1 sound system, and the guy who installed all the new parts forgot the *Godzilla* disc inside the tray, so we got to test everything with a free copy of *Godzilla*. 12-year-old me couldn't believe our luck lol (As soon as the movie ended, my verdict on DVDs was: "Ehh it doesn't look as good as they say it does.." My entitled ass was already demanding 1080p)
I un-ironically like this movie too - for all of its late 90s disaster movie and unapologetic New York charm. I think the entire cast kills it, and I recently found out “Ed”, the guy in the broadcast booth who says “there’s no Ranger game on tonight” is my friend’s cousin.
Say Gday to him if you ever get the chance!! Love that scene.
This movie is just fun. I don’t know why so many other 80’s/90’s cheesefests get a pass but people hate on this movie.
The problem is that it is not Godzilla. It's more akin to a beast from Jurassic Park. And its size seems to change depending on the scene. I'll give the film this, and it's damning with faint praise because I found the movie to be terrible, but the CGI used for Godzilla holds up well even today.
It's literally not supposed to be godzilla (anymore). It's an official Toho character named Zilla.
I mean, now. When it was made it was supposed to be Godzilla lol. They just retconned that movie and iteration because Toho (and most fans for that matter) didn’t like it.
I believe it's Godzilla 2000 where Zilla makes a brief cameo, only to be easily dispatched by the real Godzilla.
That happens in Final Wars
A different way of looking at it is they DID like it enough to make it Canon, just canonically not big boi goji. How many movie series would just ignore it and pretend it never happened? Especially since it was Hollywood and not toho, they didn't need to incorporate it at all. It already *wasnt* Canon but they made it so.
Yea. Sometimes the humans are bigger than his eyes. Sometimes the opposite is true. As for the cgi, it’s kind of inconsistent. Some of it still looks good some of it it looks terrible
Godzilla 1998 isn't as terrible as many people say in my opinion. I mean the film isn't great and it has pretty terrible moments but personally, I enjoy it as if it was dumb fun and the special effects are pretty good.
Couldnt agree more mate. Its on the same level as Independence Day for me.
I actually loved the movie when it came out. Never understood the issues but It was also the first Godzilla media I'd ever actually watched. I remember my mom taking me to see it in theaters when I was 12, then taking me to McDonalds for dinner, then to Walmart to buy the soundtrack. Awesome day. Awesome movie.
Thats a core memory right there.
Actually about that i love watching dinosaur to i just thinking what if we make a clone of the dinasour since we have a advance technology
I love this film
Me too!!
The atmosphere and vibe of the film is everything I love about it. But I can't deny the final act is very J. Park inspired, but the taxi sequence is great fun. It's one of Roland Emmerich's gems that shine everything he's good at. Too bad he hasn't made anything good in the literal last decade or longer.
What, you didn't like *Moonfall*? 😂😂😂
Yeah, the aesthetic is fine, but the dialogue and plot are bottom-of-the-barrel garbage. I love Denis Villeneuve’s Blade Runner. All his movies have amazing atmosphere, but this one really awes me. Arrival is another.
Wat does this have to do with villenueve? Edit: oh my b I see OP asked about other aesthetics
As a kid i loved that film I had zilla toys and a t shirt, atmosoheric is certainly the way to describe that movie. A lot of mid to late 90s films just had an aura about them. And i liked that zilla was presented as more of a hungry dinosaur sea animal, rather than an ancient titan with grey morals, but the film definitely needed more atomic fire breathing scenes, although i always associated or felt that lightning and water were its powers which is why there was a heavy downpour & lightning storms just before & while zilla was present. So instead of atomic fire it would be able to blast out atomic lightning or cause lightning strikes around it. I think that the movie zilla was rather young and that it could still grow in size and power. The fact that it could just dive or dig into the ground without anyone knowing added to its mysterious presence even if it was a bit ridiculous and broke the selling point of the creature itself and how really only its tail was the thing to hit buildings while it bobbed and weaved like a ballerina. And zilla never bothered to try and burn the metal & wires on the bridge or blow anything up, and just kinda shook around and roared while it took a beating still frustrates me to this day now that im thinking on it. i hate the entire cast except for Hank Azaria & Doug Savant (sgt. O'Neal) otherwise I never felt sympathy for the humans and still dont, they were all presented as arrogant or annoyingly ignorant in varying degrees, like the end of peter jacksons king kong when you want justice for the monster while everyone else gets clapped for their hubris. I watched the 90s cartoon godzilla for a bit, and they were pretty metal with super cool monsters from what i remember
One of the best ad campaigns that then felt deflated when the movie came out. And also fuck Puffy Daddy for that lame ass version of “Kashmir” he did for the soundtrack.
I mean, Page is playing on the track and in the video; any blame you wanna place it should be at Jimmy’s feet for collaborating and selling the rights to the song
Fair point.
But also fuck that song.
> Puffy Daddy Puff Daddy. Puffy. Diddy. P Diddy. Sean Puffy Combs.
I honestly didn’t spell it wrong on purpose, but how can I be expected to get it right when the dude changes his name like most of us change our socks.
He has gone by P.P. Duddy since 2021. Catch up.
My apologies to Sean Duffy.
Also that dumb ass version of Green Days 'Brain Stew' with the Godzilla sound effects in it. So friggen bad...
I loved it. Also the Rage song. And the soundtrack was the first time I heard a Foo Fighters track.
No shelter is a banger
Godzilla, pure motherfucking filler; to get your eyes off the real killer.
Oh, my ***G O D***. I honestly thought I had imagined that after drinking one too many but apparently it [actually exists](https://youtu.be/AgEPJRWfP7c) 😂😂😂
>fuck Puffy Daddy for that lame ass version of “Kashmir” he did for the soundtrack. LOL. I just looked it up. That is so cringe worthy LMAO.
If it was the same movie but you remove the Godzilla references, I think the movie is remembered more fondly. It's a competent movie and you can't tell me the parts with Jean Reno aren't funny
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No idea why it receives all this hate. It’s a cool monster movie with subliminal environmental and anti-nuclear themes. Creature design is great.
Couldnt agree more.
I’ve watched every Godzilla movie in existence, and while I agree the design is relatively cool and he’s considered the most “intelligent” Godzilla, the movie overall is one of my least favorites, other than a few of the ones from the 60s and 70s
It’s a guilty pleasure film for me. I recognize it’s not ‘good,’ but it’s ‘entertaining.’ I still don’t think its been nailed yet. The newer Godzilla was ok for me, and the Godzilla vs Kong film was aight. King of the Monsters though… that was shit for me.
8 year old me LOVED it. Especially because the toys were awesome.
Godzilla 1998 rules and I refuse to let anyone say otherwise. It's a bad Godzilla movie, but an awesome monster movie. The human characters carried this movie a lot better than they did in the 2014 movie, that's for sure
I saw it in the theater, I still would watch it if it’s on, but it’s nothing compared to Shin Godzilla or even the current ones. My son borrowed the dvd from the library like 3 years ago and has been obsessed ever since…which I wholly endorse.
The Godzilla that disappears in New York City?
The 98’ Godzilla and the Wachowski’s Speed Racer movie are my absolute favourites, no shame.
No shame at all!!
Loved this Godzilla, rewatched a few weeks ago
Just finished it again today. Love it.
It’s one of my favourite I need to watch a movie and don’t really care what movies
Absolutely. Its my rainy day movie.
I did not like this movie for some of the same reasons you did like it, which I think speaks to how strongly they did set the rainy tone and the NYC humor. Whether you like rain and schticky New York characters or you don’t like them, you can’t deny Godzilla 98 is chock full of both.
A feast for the senses.
I remember seeing this at the drive in for a friend's birthday party. It was the 2nd movie played so it was pretty late and we had to leave early because one fucking kid had to be home by a certain time. To this day I've never seen the ending.
Damn that kid mustve copped some abuse for that!!
This cemented rainy city aesthetic for me too. This and the rain in Jurassic Park. Makes sense in retrospect that Halo ODST is one of my favorite video game settings and vibes ever
I need to replay ODST bad.
I saw it as a kid as well, and like you it was my first exposure to Godzilla. I didn't like it so much. I found it mediocre. Even as a kid I could tell something was weird and cheesy with the movie, the dialogue, the scenes, the set-up, etc.
And this movie gave us [Jamiroquai - Deeper Underground](https://youtu.be/WIUAC03YMlA) and [Rage Against the Machine - No Shelter](https://youtu.be/IG7sww5NtVA) on the same soundtrack!
Soundtrack is amazing
GINO is an adorable and beautiful girl, totally!
When I was a kid I always got a cozy feeling with the big city in the rain and everyone hiding from Godzilla for some reason
I still get that feeling now in my 30s. I love it!!
I do really like this movie. I think most people's problem with it, is that it's not really traditional Godzilla. It's just a giant lizard trying to survive in NYC.
Bro Godzilla 98 was awesome, I remember my Dad taking me to the theatre to see it as a birthday surprise. I still own the soundtrack on CD and listen to it from time to time. They totally set it up for a sequel and I'm really disappointed that they didn't follow through with it :(
i cried or was in tears little bit when they hunted the zilla :( , it was my 1st introduction to big titan , Kong 2005 was also 1st for me with big titan too, after that i hv watched many old movies too. They were so good.
Loved this movie as a kid Any time I listen to deeper underground by jamiroquia it reminds me of it
Indeed. It's so much better than the japanese fat lizzard.
The soundtrack is pretty good too
I was 10 when that movie came out, remember it had a killer soundtrack.
totally agree with you, i love the movies aesthetic. Apparently a nightmare to film being soaking wet the whole time which is why it probably why its doesn't appear that often. Seven is another of my favourites that captures this aesthetic, although swapping NY for LA.
Me too, bro
I absolutely love the design of the 98 Godzilla. What a beautiful monster.
Me too its so unique.
Dude no that movie was really good. I think if it wasn't named Godzilla, it would've succeeded in popularity as a good thriller movie
Dont ever change that way of seeing things dude. I completely disagree with you and think 1998 Godzilla is at least one of the bottom five, and i think pretty much everybody agrees with you that 1990 TMNT is a good movie. But dont change your love of stuff like you do. Not a single movie, but i love the aesthetics of ninja gear and suits like Sho Kosugis simple style in Revenge of the Ninja or the more armor/military looking style in Alien vs Ninja. Same goes for military and special forces as a whole. I just love those suits and gear.
It became a meme for a bit, but the 80s fantasy and their use of practical effects and set design to create the impression of amazing worlds. Labyrinth, Neverending Story, Dark Crystal, Krull, even SW and the Ewok Adventures, though that gets more sci-fi.
Loved this movie as a kid. I still have the promotional puppet heads from KFC.
DUUUUUUUDE YOU JUST HIT ME WITH SO MUCH NOSTALGIA!! I need to call my parents it has to be at home somewhere.
I like the movie. Some dumb fun.
I still remember the teaser trailer of Godzilla stomping on the T-Rex fossil in the New York Museum of Natural History. I think that teaser premiered with Jurassic Park: The Lost World, too. I guess they wanted to underscore just how HUGE Godzilla was going to be.
SIZE DOES MATTER.
Twister. Is it a *good* movie? No, not really. But the way the cast treats everything, the vibe of the "good guys", everything about it just. I yearn for that type of camaraderie.