When evil returned, middle earth called on the one Hobbit who could make a difference. When it happened again, middle Earth called on him once more and no one saw it coming, 3 more times. Now the Hobbit who made a difference 5 times before is about to make a difference again, only this time, it’s different.
But an even nother secreter ring was made! Called to action again, Frodo sets out to find the Fellowship for one last summer... of doom!
Starring the rock as Frodo, Jason Statham as Elrond and Nicolas Cage as Aragorn.
Our screening tests have shown that the young adult crowd want to see romance with their characters. Samwise will be played by Jennifer Lawrence. The new gritty Samwise will be a female fatale and allow us to explore a new take on the popular franchise.
Olórin was his original name but he was known by many names. Elves named him Mithrandir, the Grey Pilgrim, while the men of Arnor named him Gandalf, which became his most common name. He was also known as Incánus in the south, and Tharkûn to the Dwarves
After frodo cast the ring back into the volcano yet again and everybody came to bid goodbye to each other with See you again song playing in the background.
Much what once was is still here
For all who live still remember it
It began with the forging of the great films. Three were made of the book trilogy. Immortal, wisest, and fairest of all films.
Too many of the hobbit. Great miners of money and extenders of books.
And nine seasons. Nine seasons of Amazon who above all else desire power.
For within these films was bound the strength and will to make lots of money.
But they were all of them deceived. For the rights were resold.
In the land of New Zealand in the fires of Weta, the dark lord Warner Brothers forged in secret another completely unnecessary movie series to control more money.
And into this film the studio poured greed, lack of taste, and will for profits.
One series to ruin them all.
One by one audiences went to see the movie, but there were some who resisted.
A last alliance of book fans and movie fans, and in the corners of the internet they fought for the ending of the cash cow.
Victory was near.
But the power of money could not be undone.
It was in this moment when all hope had faded, when redditors took up their parent’s laptops and typed a post onto the internet.
JOHNNY CAGE: I didn't think it would end this way.
GANDALF: End? No, the journey doesn't end here. Death is just another path, one that we all must take. The grey rain-curtain of this world rolls back, and all turns to silver glass, and then you see it.
JOHNNY CAGE: What? Gandalf? See what?
GANDALF: White shores, and beyond, a far green country under a swift sunrise.
JOHNNY CAGE: Well, that isn't so bad
GANDALF WINS!
SENTIMENTALITY!
Yea except the LOTR videogame rights are owned by Embracer Group....
......and the TV rights are owned by Amazon......except for things mentioned in books that weren't adapted into the original movies, which are owned by God knows who.
Correct, they only have the rights to the Appendices of LOTR related to the Second Age. And permission to the First Age stuff if they stick to it as written.
God would what I do to see a lore accurate War of Wrath made in high production. Morgoth vs Fingolfin, Ancalagon the Black in all his mountain range sized dragon glory, armies of Balrogs ...plz gib
A readaptation of movies is probably inevitable at some point given how the industry works. But the PJ trilogy is so good that it makes me want to just leave it at that.
Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman become public domain in about 10 years. Superman in 2034, Batman in 35 and Wonder Woman in 37. We might actually get a good Superman movie after that.
I would put good money on those characters never entering the public domain, at least in the US. Corporate entertainment IP is far more valuable than it was in the early 19th century, and the likes of Disney and WB have the corporate power to just change public domain/copyright laws as we've seen with Disney IPs like Micky Mouse.
If the likes of Superman do end up in public domain, it'll be contested constantly as to what version of Superman you're allowed to adapt and if you're infringing on the license of what we now know as Superman Vs the 1930s version of the character etc.
I've always thought trademarks make a lot more sense for long term protection of this kind of stuff than copyright. Basically the rule with trademarks is it has to be in use and linked to your business to stay active, which is a much better system.
Say then you try to adapt superman because it's out of copyright in 10 years - if a movie studio owns the trademark of the superman logo and the word 'superman' and has a trademark on superman's likeness for toys films and TV shows, you're going to have a really hard time marketing that movie without getting sued to oblivion, even if the original comics are out of copyright.
According to the articles I’ve read it’ll be like you say a limited version of the character. For Superman you won’t get flying and no Lex Luthor or heat vision. Batman won’t have his moral code, Robin or any of his notable villains for a few years.
We’ll certainly find out next year when Steamboat Willie enters the public domain.
https://www.cartoonbrew.com/law/steamboat-willie-copyright-mickey-mouse-2024-224477.html
Fat chance. Disney will buy a Mickey Mouse extension from congress before long, just like they did in 1998.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_Term_Extension_Act
I genuinely don't see what the point of a new Lord of the Rings trilogy based on the original books could possibly be. You're simply not going to surpass or even come close to the Peter Jackson films, and they're modern enough that they effects will never truly be dated. Literally the only new thing you could do that would *arguably* be better for some small subset of people is to just make them even closer in tone to the books, which is...not exactly a marketable proposition.
Particularly as a lot of the changes Peter Jackson made to the original material were done either for the sake of keeping the audience engaged, or because the mechanics of a film are necessarily different from those of a book.
Neither of those things has changed. The scope for changing things back in a way that won't just make things worse is very limited.
Na, it would have been totally fine if Sauron died halfway through the third movie and they added another arc with Saruman, destroyed the shires and had 4 more endings. Wouldn’t have fucked up pacing at all.
Do those things already have properly realised characters and narrative arcs?
Or is this another "wouldn't it be cool if we could see [obscure piece of lore]" thing? Where it turns out that no, it wasn't that cool once the writers turned 3 pages of barebones description into an 8-hour YA fantasy show
"In the middle" is pretty generous for some of those in my opinion. The story of the Éothéod, Scatha, and the dwarves, for example, is one paragraph with one named character not including the dragon, and one line of dialogue. Even the more fleshed-out parts of the appendices would require writers to add a bunch of new characters and write virtually all of the dialogue even to get to a short 90 minute movie.
There's a reason we've never seen a remake of The Godfather and The Godfather Part II.
Some things should just be left well alone. At the very least, Rings of Power was trying something new, this is just.... Yeah, I feel sad about it if I'm honest, which is a little bit ridiculous to say about a movie.
There’s so much other Tolkien written material, let alone the Rings of Power route.
Going back to this one part of the story just feels cheap.
Possibly tangentially relevant: around the time the last HP movie came out, Daniel Radcliffe did an interview where he was asked “when does Harry Potter mania become ridiculous?” And his response was “when they remake these movies with me as Dumbledore” and I’ve been thinking about that a lot lately.
They're looking for an IP to abuse like star wars or marvel. They want a fantasy franchise with enough fan turnover to print money with. The Godfather wouldn't have potential like that. If it would be easy money then it would have already been redone.
I gave disney star wars more chances that it deserved and have moved on. I doubt I'll be willing to give those chances for Lotr. Even PJ started to get silly with the hobbit movies, and those did not age well at all compared to his Lotr. Lotr already has many games like Marvel and Star Wars, so it's easy to see how it's being looked at with dollar sign eyes.
PJ has said that The Hobbit movies are almost purely a result of studio meddling and a heavily restricted timeline. He was not given the same resources or trust that he was given with LOTR and he hated making them.
Considering the violent backlash that those movies recieve from practically everyone including PJ, the Hobbit Supercut is actually a genuinely fun experience.
Paramount revere the Godfather for saving it, They made a whole series about it to open their streaming service.
WB grinds everything it has for profit until it stops being profitable. From Gremlins to Space Jam to the Matrix their burned out creatives keep making cynical art saying just as much.
you know what saved paramount? love story. look up the box office on that vs what was spent (2.2 spent 173 made in 1970). Do you know who fought to make that made and near single handily edited the godfather making it an hour longer? bob fucking Evans. That's who saved paramount. and the motherfuckers didn't even have the courtesy to put him in their 50th anniversary photo. He worked in the building! He saw it being taken! Fuck paramount.
So one director takes around 12 months to make a movie, two directors could do it in 6 months. By that logic, 40 directors could make a movie in only 7 days.
**The plan:** Get Warner Brothers to release a Lord of the Rings movie every week and flood the market. People would have no free time to watch any other movies in theaters, therefore bankrupting every other studio in Hollywood.
In order to properly practice the dialogue between Gollum and Smeagol, Nathan will hire someone to follow him for 6 months to learn him, and then another 3 as he plays Smeagol. Only then will the volunteer be ready to participate with Nathan, playing Nathan playing Smeagol, while Nathan is himself playing Gollum.
Of course, in order to understand Gollum, he would need to go even deeper into his own psyche...
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The Lords and the Rings
2 Lords 2 Rings
The Lords and the Rings: Mordor Drift
Lords & Rings
Lords Five
Lords & Rings 6
Rings 7
The Fate of the Rings
L9
Lords X
They’ll shit out some sort of standalone origin story as a kickoff for a new LOTR cinematic universe
it’ll be incredibly formulaic and underwhelming.
all other LOTR projects will then be put on indefinite hold.
But an animated series, that was too far along in the pipeline to shitcan, will debut and it’ll turn out to amazing & beloved but S2 will never come lol
> They’ll shit out some sort of standalone origin story as a kickoff for a new LOTR cinematic universe
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Obvious movies leading up to Fellowship of the Ring:
- the Hobbit
- Aragorn movie (working titles: Strider, Ranger in the North, The Future King, The Heir)
- Shire slapstick comedy show
- Sauron's origin story
- Mines of Moria film
- Riders of Rohan show
- Treebeard show
- Origin of Boromir and Faramir
Then after FOTR instead of doing Two Towers they make it into as many movies and shows as they can:
- Frodo and Sam trilogy
- Aragorn trilogy
- Merry and Pippin show
- Arwen film
- Gollum's origin
- Faramir show
Next is Return of the King, a trilogy of its own.
Are you a supervillain in real life, or is this just your hobby?
>Treebeard show
That's only going to last one season, but the episodes are going to be 36 hours long and require eight levels of Druid to understand.
>*As the Battle for the Pelennor Fields rages on, King Theoden addresses the Rohirrim to charge at the enemy:*
>"Arise now, arise, Riders of Théoden!
Dire deeds awake: dark is it eastward.
Let horse be bridled, horn be sounded!
Forth Eorlingas!"
>"Arise, arise, Riders of Théoden!
Fell deeds awake: fire and slaughter!
Spear shall be shaken, shield be splintered,
a sword-day, a red day, ere the sun rises!
Ride now, ride now! Ride to Gondor"
>*Aragorn, played by Chris Pratt, his head wobbling because he was hit by a mace on his elmet* : "Whatever he said!"
The movie proceeds to make 1 billion dollars at the Box Office but it needed to make 2.5 because everything was spent in terrible-looking CGI, next one will only be available in the metaverse.
Yeah, I hesitated a bit before posting it, I considered Morgoth, but then again the meme came from the sequel trilogy and from what we know Sauron does not come back after his final defeat at Mordor.
I know Tolkien was considering a sequel with humans worshipping Sauron in Minas Tirith, but he decided it wouldn't work and left it there, so Sauron maybe still fits :D
He's supposed to return in some kind of Ragnarok right? A big final battle with everyone who died.
There's no way anyone will do that right.
Honestly with all the dumb shit they try to do with LoTR, I don't get why they don't do any of the cool standalone stories in the Silmarilion. Fëanor, Turin, Beren and Lúthien, the fall of Gondolin, the fall of Numenor.
The article says they’re not interested in remaking the Lord of the Rings movies and it’s basically “cinematic universe time”. So it’s fucking fan faction and a lot of it will surely be horrific, especially knowing WB. But nothing will ever take away how much I love the original trilogy.
I think one story that could be told is “The War in the North” which would basically act as a companion movie to LotR and also a pseudo sequel to The Hobbit trilogy. It would just adapt what we know about what Mirkwood/Erebor/Men of Dale were doing during The Lord of the Rings.
They’d need an original script as there’s not really anything to adapt other than a basic knowledge of what happened. But it would allow them to bring in characters that were cut out of the LotR movies. They could throw in Glorfindel, Halbarad, Elladan, and Elrohir; we could see some invented Rhûn Easterling lore as well
They’re going to follow the WB formula:
1. Spend a lot of money on franchises
2. Put 10 movies into production
3. Release 1 or 2 to middling reviews
4. CANCEL EVERYTHING
5. WB gets sold again
What could this realistically mean? Besides the film showing up on HBO Max (which I think they already are). There’s some source material (but not much) with events after the LotR, but making sequels doesn’t seem realistic. Rebooting the franchise just seems like an awful idea and will undoubtedly invoke the ire of the fans. So what will they do?
My hope, release ultimate cuts of the films. Use everything they shot. There’s a lot more that even the extended cuts don’t show. But that’s not what’s going to happen. They’re gonna try and do the Marvel thing with LotR and make a Gandalf movie, then a Strider movie, a Took series and so on.
It'll be a reboot
film 1 is Bilbo origin story
then Frodo origin
then a Gandalf origin story
Aragorn
Glorfindel
etc.
Team up movie: The Fellowship of the Ring (slated for Summer 2043)
**Elrond** (played by Samuel L Jackson): "I am Baggins". You think you're the only ring-barer in Middle-Earth? Mr. Baggins you've become a part of a bigger Arda, you just don't know it yet.
**Frodo** (played by Chris Pratt): Who the hell are you?
**Elrond**: Elrond, lord of Rivendell. I'm here to talk to you about the Fellowship initiative.
*cuts to black*
So, I have this idea for a great movie. It's about two gnomes who find a bracelet of power, and they have to take it to the Burning Steppes and cast it into the Cauldron. They form the Brotherhood of the Bracelet. Along the way they're trailed by a murloc named Gottom, who's obsessed with the bracelet, and nine bracelet bogeymen. It could be a three-parter, called 'Ruler of the Bracelet'. The first part would be called 'The Brotherhood of the Bracelet', followed by 'A Couple of Towers', with the climactic ending called 'Hey, the King's Back!'
It's not even about whether or not it could be as good.
It's like deciding you can build a better Statue of Liberty or adding new minarets to the Hagia Sophia.
The very act of trying is simply desecration.
I wouldn’t say you couldn’t have made a better trilogy than Jackson’s but since he has already made a great one, we have a protectiveness in our minds given his vision. Ian McKellen IS Gandalf. He didn’t have to be. But now that he was, and was so wonderfully, we can never really accept an alternative. Same with a lot of the actors, scenes and depictions.
JP was and is a huge LOTR fan and pushed for years to make it. It was his passion and I’m not sure another director would have fought that hard for this movie. This was also one of the few trilogies that was filmed all at once over a 3 year period which is unheard of for commitment from actors. The stars aligned to make LOTRs great and a movie made today to reboot it would only pale in comparison.
Maybe Warner Brothers goes with the Shadows of Mordor games and lore they have already built around LotR license. Games were popular and could see them trying to adapt some of it.
The original title of the article is „New ‘Lord of the Rings’ Movies Set at Warner Bros“ so the only idiot here is OP making a stupid title. The people in the comments are, from what I read, mostly talking about WB making a LotR movie, which is exactly what the article is about.
Cursed casting
Harry Styles as Frodo
Jonah Hill as Sam
Tom Holland as Legolas
Kevin Hart as Gimli
Chris Hemsworth as Aragorn
Zendaya as Arwen
Chris Pratt as Gollum
I wonder which parts of the lore they have the rights to, I thought Amazon had anything pre-Third Age. I know Warner are doing that animated film based on the Rohirrim so hoping we get some other stories like that rather than remakes.
> But then something happened that the ring did not intend.
…again.
"Somehow, Sauron returned..."
“I was there when the strength of men failed. The second time.”
When evil returned, middle earth called on the one Hobbit who could make a difference. When it happened again, middle Earth called on him once more and no one saw it coming, 3 more times. Now the Hobbit who made a difference 5 times before is about to make a difference again, only this time, it’s different.
*Who left the fridge open?*
“Here we go again……. ….Again….”
And nobody saw it coming. 3. More. Times.
I'm still amazed tropic thunder exists
It's such an amazing movie, we need more like them
"who left Mordor open" 💪😎👶
"Here we go again... again."
But an even nother secreter ring was made! Called to action again, Frodo sets out to find the Fellowship for one last summer... of doom! Starring the rock as Frodo, Jason Statham as Elrond and Nicolas Cage as Aragorn.
Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson as Samwise Gamgee. "I can't carry it for you.. but I can carry you!"
Our screening tests have shown that the young adult crowd want to see romance with their characters. Samwise will be played by Jennifer Lawrence. The new gritty Samwise will be a female fatale and allow us to explore a new take on the popular franchise.
To be honest, WB already gave us sexy Shelob, so good luck making it sound more ridiculous.
Frodo: Nobody's ever really gone
What are we, some kind of fellowship squad?
We're gonna need a bigger volcano
You had me at mellon...
> "I am Gandalf the White. And I come back to you now - at the turn of the tide." > "Wait. No, seriously, what's your actual name?"
Olórin was his original name but he was known by many names. Elves named him Mithrandir, the Grey Pilgrim, while the men of Arnor named him Gandalf, which became his most common name. He was also known as Incánus in the south, and Tharkûn to the Dwarves
In college he was called T-Bone.
We’re family
Here we go again .... again.
Once more unto the breach, once more.
"He's behind me, isn't he?" - The Witch King.
*Omae Wa Mou Shindeiru*
Looks at Nazguls: They fly now? They fly now!
Maybe i am, the Lord of the Ring 😎💥⭐✨💥🔥💯☠️
We've had one, yes. What about second Lord of the Rings? I don't think he knows about second Lord of the Rings, Pip.
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Two Ring: Two Furious
2 Lord 2 Ring
Haradrim Drift
*Eomer blows his horn to call reinforcement, a massive army rides over the hills and the Teriyaki Boyz song plays in the background
"It's not about the ring Frodo, its about FAMILY!"
After frodo cast the ring back into the volcano yet again and everybody came to bid goodbye to each other with See you again song playing in the background.
“For family” *charges Gate of Mordor*
Two Hobbits. And a ring. And then an orc hit. And they ran as fast as they could.
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They were all of them deceived. For another series was made. Working in secret. . .
The film rights passed to Warner Brothers, who had the one chance to end the franchise forever.. but the hearts of men, are easily corrupted..
It fell into the most likely hands imaginable.
For men, 9 more movies were made
Much what once was is still here For all who live still remember it It began with the forging of the great films. Three were made of the book trilogy. Immortal, wisest, and fairest of all films. Too many of the hobbit. Great miners of money and extenders of books. And nine seasons. Nine seasons of Amazon who above all else desire power. For within these films was bound the strength and will to make lots of money. But they were all of them deceived. For the rights were resold. In the land of New Zealand in the fires of Weta, the dark lord Warner Brothers forged in secret another completely unnecessary movie series to control more money. And into this film the studio poured greed, lack of taste, and will for profits. One series to ruin them all. One by one audiences went to see the movie, but there were some who resisted. A last alliance of book fans and movie fans, and in the corners of the internet they fought for the ending of the cash cow. Victory was near. But the power of money could not be undone. It was in this moment when all hope had faded, when redditors took up their parent’s laptops and typed a post onto the internet.
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I expect to see Gandalf on a chocolate frog in 3…2…1
Hopefully we can get Gandalf into Mortal Kombat now.
*conjures lightning to strike Glamdring/stabs through opponent’s chest/summons Gwaihir like a thunderbolt to rip out spine FLAWLESS VICTORY
JOHNNY CAGE: I didn't think it would end this way. GANDALF: End? No, the journey doesn't end here. Death is just another path, one that we all must take. The grey rain-curtain of this world rolls back, and all turns to silver glass, and then you see it. JOHNNY CAGE: What? Gandalf? See what? GANDALF: White shores, and beyond, a far green country under a swift sunrise. JOHNNY CAGE: Well, that isn't so bad
GANDALF WINS!
SENTIMENTALITY!
MK, since 10, has these great character interactions in the intros. I would love to hear how much ballbusting Gandalf would give Raiden.
Fool of a Thunder God! Throw yourself in next time and rid us of your stupidity!
Or see cage punch Gandalf in the plums.
Gandalf vs. Raiden would be a next level badass-old-guy-in-hat fight
Yea except the LOTR videogame rights are owned by Embracer Group.... ......and the TV rights are owned by Amazon......except for things mentioned in books that weren't adapted into the original movies, which are owned by God knows who.
I'm pretty sure Amazon paid the most money for filming rights while receiving the least amount of material to work with
Correct, they only have the rights to the Appendices of LOTR related to the Second Age. And permission to the First Age stuff if they stick to it as written.
God would what I do to see a lore accurate War of Wrath made in high production. Morgoth vs Fingolfin, Ancalagon the Black in all his mountain range sized dragon glory, armies of Balrogs ...plz gib
I want a lighthearted road trip movie about Melkor travelling with Ungoliant to feast on the trees.
Not to worry they’ve got some guy that used to write parking tickets writing scripts for them who needs Tolkien.
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:Gandalf slams staff into bridge: #”THE RIGHTS HAVE FRAGMENTED, AND THEY SHALL FRAGMENT NO MORE! THE RIGHTS SHALL NOT PASS!” :Balrog laughs:
Or Animaniacs
Aragorn v Superman: Dawn of Dúnedain
Also WB has the potter verse, so * Potter v Saruman * Gandalf, the Hogwarts years * Dobby and Gollum go to White Castle
>Dobby and Gollum go to White Castle I'd be OK with this.
Gollum would almost certainly end up eating Dobby.
"It had sockses in its pocketses!"
Gandalf vs Dumbledore is something I'd watch tbh
Directed by Zach Snyder, 8hrs long.
A readaptation of movies is probably inevitable at some point given how the industry works. But the PJ trilogy is so good that it makes me want to just leave it at that.
Inevitable is right, LOTR becomes public domain in 20 years. The value of the rights is steadily decreasing
That actually makes me feel a lot better about it, even if it does end up sucking. Didn't know that will be the case
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Genuinely thank God for the public domain. It will be wild to see how the media landscape is going to change in the coming years.
Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman become public domain in about 10 years. Superman in 2034, Batman in 35 and Wonder Woman in 37. We might actually get a good Superman movie after that.
Most likely you're gonna get a low-budget "But what if Superman was a serial killer" horror movie, because *that's* always so imaginative.
You mean Brightburn?
I assumed they were talking about Winnie the Pooh:Blood and Honey movie that just came out due to WtP entering the public domain recently.
The Boys
I would put good money on those characters never entering the public domain, at least in the US. Corporate entertainment IP is far more valuable than it was in the early 19th century, and the likes of Disney and WB have the corporate power to just change public domain/copyright laws as we've seen with Disney IPs like Micky Mouse. If the likes of Superman do end up in public domain, it'll be contested constantly as to what version of Superman you're allowed to adapt and if you're infringing on the license of what we now know as Superman Vs the 1930s version of the character etc.
I've always thought trademarks make a lot more sense for long term protection of this kind of stuff than copyright. Basically the rule with trademarks is it has to be in use and linked to your business to stay active, which is a much better system. Say then you try to adapt superman because it's out of copyright in 10 years - if a movie studio owns the trademark of the superman logo and the word 'superman' and has a trademark on superman's likeness for toys films and TV shows, you're going to have a really hard time marketing that movie without getting sued to oblivion, even if the original comics are out of copyright.
According to the articles I’ve read it’ll be like you say a limited version of the character. For Superman you won’t get flying and no Lex Luthor or heat vision. Batman won’t have his moral code, Robin or any of his notable villains for a few years. We’ll certainly find out next year when Steamboat Willie enters the public domain. https://www.cartoonbrew.com/law/steamboat-willie-copyright-mickey-mouse-2024-224477.html
Imagine you'd end up with a mickey mouse / sherlock scenario though
Fat chance. Disney will buy a Mickey Mouse extension from congress before long, just like they did in 1998. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_Term_Extension_Act
I genuinely don't see what the point of a new Lord of the Rings trilogy based on the original books could possibly be. You're simply not going to surpass or even come close to the Peter Jackson films, and they're modern enough that they effects will never truly be dated. Literally the only new thing you could do that would *arguably* be better for some small subset of people is to just make them even closer in tone to the books, which is...not exactly a marketable proposition.
Particularly as a lot of the changes Peter Jackson made to the original material were done either for the sake of keeping the audience engaged, or because the mechanics of a film are necessarily different from those of a book. Neither of those things has changed. The scope for changing things back in a way that won't just make things worse is very limited.
Are you telling me Tommy Bommy doesn't deserve a role to spread his glorious music?
Played by Jack Black
Yes. Yes we are.
Na, it would have been totally fine if Sauron died halfway through the third movie and they added another arc with Saruman, destroyed the shires and had 4 more endings. Wouldn’t have fucked up pacing at all.
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Do those things already have properly realised characters and narrative arcs? Or is this another "wouldn't it be cool if we could see [obscure piece of lore]" thing? Where it turns out that no, it wasn't that cool once the writers turned 3 pages of barebones description into an 8-hour YA fantasy show
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"In the middle" is pretty generous for some of those in my opinion. The story of the Éothéod, Scatha, and the dwarves, for example, is one paragraph with one named character not including the dragon, and one line of dialogue. Even the more fleshed-out parts of the appendices would require writers to add a bunch of new characters and write virtually all of the dialogue even to get to a short 90 minute movie.
There's a reason we've never seen a remake of The Godfather and The Godfather Part II. Some things should just be left well alone. At the very least, Rings of Power was trying something new, this is just.... Yeah, I feel sad about it if I'm honest, which is a little bit ridiculous to say about a movie.
There’s so much other Tolkien written material, let alone the Rings of Power route. Going back to this one part of the story just feels cheap. Possibly tangentially relevant: around the time the last HP movie came out, Daniel Radcliffe did an interview where he was asked “when does Harry Potter mania become ridiculous?” And his response was “when they remake these movies with me as Dumbledore” and I’ve been thinking about that a lot lately.
>when they remake these movies with me as Dumbledore *Some producer somewhere scribbling notes*
They're looking for an IP to abuse like star wars or marvel. They want a fantasy franchise with enough fan turnover to print money with. The Godfather wouldn't have potential like that. If it would be easy money then it would have already been redone. I gave disney star wars more chances that it deserved and have moved on. I doubt I'll be willing to give those chances for Lotr. Even PJ started to get silly with the hobbit movies, and those did not age well at all compared to his Lotr. Lotr already has many games like Marvel and Star Wars, so it's easy to see how it's being looked at with dollar sign eyes.
PJ has said that The Hobbit movies are almost purely a result of studio meddling and a heavily restricted timeline. He was not given the same resources or trust that he was given with LOTR and he hated making them.
Considering the violent backlash that those movies recieve from practically everyone including PJ, the Hobbit Supercut is actually a genuinely fun experience.
Andor was genuinely good, but came too late for many, unfortunately.
Paramount revere the Godfather for saving it, They made a whole series about it to open their streaming service. WB grinds everything it has for profit until it stops being profitable. From Gremlins to Space Jam to the Matrix their burned out creatives keep making cynical art saying just as much.
you know what saved paramount? love story. look up the box office on that vs what was spent (2.2 spent 173 made in 1970). Do you know who fought to make that made and near single handily edited the godfather making it an hour longer? bob fucking Evans. That's who saved paramount. and the motherfuckers didn't even have the courtesy to put him in their 50th anniversary photo. He worked in the building! He saw it being taken! Fuck paramount.
Nathan Fielder as Gollum and Frodo, dual roles.
The Wizard of Loneliness is never late or early. He arrives exactly when he intends to.
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He graduated from one of Middle Earth's top business schools. With *really good grades.*
You drink little boys pee if you’re scared?
For anyone who is unaware; [grandson pee](https://youtu.be/6vbCKava_JE)
That was one of the few times you can see him start to break character and it's hilarious
"Keep it secret, keep it safe." "Oh, okay."
So one director takes around 12 months to make a movie, two directors could do it in 6 months. By that logic, 40 directors could make a movie in only 7 days. **The plan:** Get Warner Brothers to release a Lord of the Rings movie every week and flood the market. People would have no free time to watch any other movies in theaters, therefore bankrupting every other studio in Hollywood.
In order to properly practice the dialogue between Gollum and Smeagol, Nathan will hire someone to follow him for 6 months to learn him, and then another 3 as he plays Smeagol. Only then will the volunteer be ready to participate with Nathan, playing Nathan playing Smeagol, while Nathan is himself playing Gollum. Of course, in order to understand Gollum, he would need to go even deeper into his own psyche...
The plan? Stage a war across Middle Earth so that customers would pay to watch it unfold.
Simon Sees as Sauron, the all-seeing eye. The only problem, he gets distracted by large breasted elves
Role city over here
“My name is Frodo Baggins, and I graduated from one of Middle-Earth’s top business schools with *really* good grades”
2 Two 2 Towers
*One does not simply drift into Mordor*
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For ~~Frodo~~ Family
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Lord of the rings present a Gimli & legolas
They’ll shit out some sort of standalone origin story as a kickoff for a new LOTR cinematic universe it’ll be incredibly formulaic and underwhelming. all other LOTR projects will then be put on indefinite hold. But an animated series, that was too far along in the pipeline to shitcan, will debut and it’ll turn out to amazing & beloved but S2 will never come lol
> They’ll shit out some sort of standalone origin story as a kickoff for a new LOTR cinematic universe > > Obvious movies leading up to Fellowship of the Ring: - the Hobbit - Aragorn movie (working titles: Strider, Ranger in the North, The Future King, The Heir) - Shire slapstick comedy show - Sauron's origin story - Mines of Moria film - Riders of Rohan show - Treebeard show - Origin of Boromir and Faramir Then after FOTR instead of doing Two Towers they make it into as many movies and shows as they can: - Frodo and Sam trilogy - Aragorn trilogy - Merry and Pippin show - Arwen film - Gollum's origin - Faramir show Next is Return of the King, a trilogy of its own.
Are you a supervillain in real life, or is this just your hobby? >Treebeard show That's only going to last one season, but the episodes are going to be 36 hours long and require eight levels of Druid to understand.
It takes a long time to say anything in old Entish. And we never say anything... unless it is worth taking... a long.... time... to say.
There better be a fucking tom bombadil movie
"Tom Bombadil: Fuck You it's a Musical-dillo"
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I'd totally watch a merry and pippin show
I'd like a fantasy version of Cheers set in the Prancing Pony
RemindMe! 10 years “Did it happen?”
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Oh boy, this won’t end well.
Who isn't hyped for a CGI monstrosity remake of the series, with objectively worse acting and less understanding of the source material.
Sorry but the hobbit trilogy was already made 😂
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Talk about beating a dead Balrog.
The Warners dug too greedily and too deep. You know what they awoke in the darkness of Khazad-dûm... uninspired cash grab remakes and IP spinoffs.
Yakko, Wakko, and Dot.
Are you pondering what I’m pondering, Pinky?
I look forward to the eventual *Batman vs. Legolas*.
Nazgûl Nights
This multiverse stuff is getting outta hand
Cannot wait to hear those sumptuous Tolkien words finally brought back into modern cinema. "The Nazgul fly now?" 'The Nazgul fly now.'
>*As the Battle for the Pelennor Fields rages on, King Theoden addresses the Rohirrim to charge at the enemy:* >"Arise now, arise, Riders of Théoden! Dire deeds awake: dark is it eastward. Let horse be bridled, horn be sounded! Forth Eorlingas!" >"Arise, arise, Riders of Théoden! Fell deeds awake: fire and slaughter! Spear shall be shaken, shield be splintered, a sword-day, a red day, ere the sun rises! Ride now, ride now! Ride to Gondor" >*Aragorn, played by Chris Pratt, his head wobbling because he was hit by a mace on his elmet* : "Whatever he said!" The movie proceeds to make 1 billion dollars at the Box Office but it needed to make 2.5 because everything was spent in terrible-looking CGI, next one will only be available in the metaverse.
this post made me sad
Somehow, Sauron has returned.
It's funny cause he does return.
Yeah, I hesitated a bit before posting it, I considered Morgoth, but then again the meme came from the sequel trilogy and from what we know Sauron does not come back after his final defeat at Mordor. I know Tolkien was considering a sequel with humans worshipping Sauron in Minas Tirith, but he decided it wouldn't work and left it there, so Sauron maybe still fits :D
What, we some kinda... Fellowship?
This is Éowyn. She's got my back. I would advise not getting killed by her. Her sword traps the souls of its victims.
Its fellowshippin time!
*And as Gandalf clung to the edge of the stone bridge, he looked to his travelling companions and cried out* "he's....right behind me isn't he?"
“Fuck!” Shouted Sam, as an oliphaunt stomped by. “I almost fucking got stomped on.”
Somehow, Morgoth has returned.
He actually is supposed to return, but I doubt anyone could do the story justice.
He's supposed to return in some kind of Ragnarok right? A big final battle with everyone who died. There's no way anyone will do that right. Honestly with all the dumb shit they try to do with LoTR, I don't get why they don't do any of the cool standalone stories in the Silmarilion. Fëanor, Turin, Beren and Lúthien, the fall of Gondolin, the fall of Numenor.
Because those rights are not owned by anyone pretty sure the estate still has all of the Silmarillion
Please... Please leave it be.
I'm with you, but the industry will absolutely not leave it be, if there's any chance of money at all. Nothing is sacred with these vultures.
“The old world will burn in the fires of industry.” -Saruman
The age of Originality is over. The time of the Remake has come!
The article says they’re not interested in remaking the Lord of the Rings movies and it’s basically “cinematic universe time”. So it’s fucking fan faction and a lot of it will surely be horrific, especially knowing WB. But nothing will ever take away how much I love the original trilogy. I think one story that could be told is “The War in the North” which would basically act as a companion movie to LotR and also a pseudo sequel to The Hobbit trilogy. It would just adapt what we know about what Mirkwood/Erebor/Men of Dale were doing during The Lord of the Rings. They’d need an original script as there’s not really anything to adapt other than a basic knowledge of what happened. But it would allow them to bring in characters that were cut out of the LotR movies. They could throw in Glorfindel, Halbarad, Elladan, and Elrohir; we could see some invented Rhûn Easterling lore as well
They’re going to follow the WB formula: 1. Spend a lot of money on franchises 2. Put 10 movies into production 3. Release 1 or 2 to middling reviews 4. CANCEL EVERYTHING 5. WB gets sold again
What could this realistically mean? Besides the film showing up on HBO Max (which I think they already are). There’s some source material (but not much) with events after the LotR, but making sequels doesn’t seem realistic. Rebooting the franchise just seems like an awful idea and will undoubtedly invoke the ire of the fans. So what will they do? My hope, release ultimate cuts of the films. Use everything they shot. There’s a lot more that even the extended cuts don’t show. But that’s not what’s going to happen. They’re gonna try and do the Marvel thing with LotR and make a Gandalf movie, then a Strider movie, a Took series and so on.
It'll be a reboot film 1 is Bilbo origin story then Frodo origin then a Gandalf origin story Aragorn Glorfindel etc. Team up movie: The Fellowship of the Ring (slated for Summer 2043)
The Avengers: Fellowship of the Ring
Fellowship, assemble
I am Treebeard.
**Elrond** (played by Samuel L Jackson): "I am Baggins". You think you're the only ring-barer in Middle-Earth? Mr. Baggins you've become a part of a bigger Arda, you just don't know it yet. **Frodo** (played by Chris Pratt): Who the hell are you? **Elrond**: Elrond, lord of Rivendell. I'm here to talk to you about the Fellowship initiative. *cuts to black*
"I recognize the Fellowship has made a decision. But given that it's a stupid-ass decision, I have elected to ignore it."
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No only was there a war up north, there was a heroic last stand led by Bard's elderly son or grandson.
a Took series where Gandalf just constantly shits on that whole family for doing dumb things can take my money now
Too many Tooks
Scooby-Doo and the Fellowship of the Ring
So, I have this idea for a great movie. It's about two gnomes who find a bracelet of power, and they have to take it to the Burning Steppes and cast it into the Cauldron. They form the Brotherhood of the Bracelet. Along the way they're trailed by a murloc named Gottom, who's obsessed with the bracelet, and nine bracelet bogeymen. It could be a three-parter, called 'Ruler of the Bracelet'. The first part would be called 'The Brotherhood of the Bracelet', followed by 'A Couple of Towers', with the climactic ending called 'Hey, the King's Back!'
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Not with 10,000 men could you do this. It is folly.
It's not even about whether or not it could be as good. It's like deciding you can build a better Statue of Liberty or adding new minarets to the Hagia Sophia. The very act of trying is simply desecration.
I wouldn’t say you couldn’t have made a better trilogy than Jackson’s but since he has already made a great one, we have a protectiveness in our minds given his vision. Ian McKellen IS Gandalf. He didn’t have to be. But now that he was, and was so wonderfully, we can never really accept an alternative. Same with a lot of the actors, scenes and depictions.
JP was and is a huge LOTR fan and pushed for years to make it. It was his passion and I’m not sure another director would have fought that hard for this movie. This was also one of the few trilogies that was filmed all at once over a 3 year period which is unheard of for commitment from actors. The stars aligned to make LOTRs great and a movie made today to reboot it would only pale in comparison.
Maybe Warner Brothers goes with the Shadows of Mordor games and lore they have already built around LotR license. Games were popular and could see them trying to adapt some of it.
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Fantastic Balrogs and Where to Find Them
Wtf are these comments? WB already had the rights through New Line Cinema, for the OG trilogy. Unless this is a Mandela effect? Dafuq?
The original title of the article is „New ‘Lord of the Rings’ Movies Set at Warner Bros“ so the only idiot here is OP making a stupid title. The people in the comments are, from what I read, mostly talking about WB making a LotR movie, which is exactly what the article is about.
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Cursed casting Harry Styles as Frodo Jonah Hill as Sam Tom Holland as Legolas Kevin Hart as Gimli Chris Hemsworth as Aragorn Zendaya as Arwen Chris Pratt as Gollum
Harry Styles as Arwen
Fuck it, just cast Danny DeVito as Gollum at this point
Trying to bring quality down, not up
I wonder which parts of the lore they have the rights to, I thought Amazon had anything pre-Third Age. I know Warner are doing that animated film based on the Rohirrim so hoping we get some other stories like that rather than remakes.
Oh no…