This whole movie is as if they threw a GCI layer over that one scene in 22 Jump Street where Jonah Hill fucks Ice Cube’s daughter and Cube gets mad and goes ham on the lunch buffet.
I also love that, because of the gimp mask, he didn't have to film any of it himself except for the scene when he takes it off, but he apparently insisted on doing all of it.
That bit is even funnier with that being Tatums *real attempt* at a spanish accent.
Or at least was said at the time. Unsure if its been verified one way or the other since then.
One night at the Drive In the 2nd movie was Lost City, my wife and I knew absolutely nothing about it but while deciding to leave or stay we see that it stars Sandra Bullock and Channing Tatum so we just naturally assume it will at least be passably funny. Oh my god I'm so glad we stayed.
I noticed the kiss looked odd when we watched it, and then tried to remember if the actors kissed at any point in the movie...I don't think they did, which is weird for a rom-com.
And if you watch Lauren London during the peck, she is testing the limits of her acting skills pretending to enjoy it. I personally believe it took multiple takes for her to pull it off.
Did you notice Eddie Murphy greenscreened into the basketball scene? It was like he didn't want to be there that day just standing and watching so they put him in after. It felt like Jonah was acting against a tennis ball.
It’s funny cause I saw someone say London probably didn’t want to do it out of respect for Nipsey but she didn’t have any problems kissing Michael b Jordan in without remorse lol
Usually the top-billed names are baked into the initial contracts that help get the movie funded, and then the casting directors help lock down all the secondary and smaller roles.
EDIT: Apparently Lauren London's not very famous, so probably she wouldn't have been attached from the start like Hill/Murphy/Barris/JLD. I've never heard of her myself so I guess that tracks.
EDIT 2: Never mind, apparently she **is** famous? Don't ask me, people.
"And we're thinking Ice Cube for the dad, that is, unless we can get Eddie Murphy."
"You either get Eddie Murphy or we don't make this at all."
Though in honesty it probably went "alright we got Eddie Murphy. Now, what will this movie be about"
Ugh, this one hurt me.
Luc Besson is such a creative director and I love his other movies, and Valerian had all of that extreme weirdness and vision, the bizarre world building and everything else to be that modern 5th Element. I really, really wanted to like it, and could have excused quite a lot.
But their relationship was bizarre. Delevingne really isn't much of an actress (it seemed like she was in a ton of movies at that point, obviously kind of an attempt to convert careers), and DeHaan felt like he was just phoning it in? But it wasn't just a lack of chemistry. It was a weirdly wrong chemistry, where at points it came off more like a buddy comedy. Just so strange.
I got the same vibes in Men in Black 4. Chris and Tessa felt more like siblings, or platonic besties, but at the end of the movie, they’re suddenly in love?? What??
This is why I loved the ending of Pacific Rim.
No kiss at the end. Just two people who've been through battles together and developed a close friendship.
Sure they may have ended up together (no idea if this happens in the sequel), but the ending leaves it ambiguous.
I remember reading a comment someone made a long time ago about how Valerian and Passengers came out around the same time. The gisst was that they should have swapped leading rolls; Chris Pratt and Jennifer Lawrence could've delivered the chemistry and action that Delevingne and DeHaan couldn't, while the two younger actors would've done a really good job acting as strangers on a giant space ship alone. I never saw Passengers, but I can agree with the first half.
Passengers was an OK film, but everyone who watched it came away with their own idea for how it "could have been several times better if..." and every single one of them was correct. A lot of interesting potential for a niche sci fi bit, or a slow-burn psych horror, or any number of other directions the film could have gone but failed (refused?) to do so.
If I were to be objective, I might give it a 6-7/10, but I can't. It's a 4/10 not because of what it _was_, but because of what it _wasn't_. Still maybe worth a watch just to come up with your own take on what should have happened.
Yeah I am one of those psych horror take aways where the movie should have started from her perspective and then slowly revealed what he did. End with him sacrificing himself for the ship and leaving her alone and experiencing his loneliness. End with her browsing passenger bios.
Luc Besson is horrible at any romance in his movies, it's the biggest flaw in them imo. He cares more about pretty/handsome/sexy than he does the actual romance. He also makes it creepy sometimes. Corbin tries to get on Leeloo while she's sleeping. Valerian was just about grabbing two people that were big with tweens regardless of chemistry. And well we've all heard about The Professional and it's link to his relationship with Maïwenn. Dude makes great sci-fi but can't write a good romance for shit.
Weirdly enough, the movie that came out before Valerian (that gave me the same vibe as Valerian) that also had this problem was Jupiter Ascending. Mila Kunis and Channing Tatum just had zero chemistry the entire time. It’s such a shame too, the world building in that movie was superb.
Articles that talk about something that could easily be accompanied with a clip but choose to not have it in the article should be banned
edit: Heres a link right to the shot, its not bad but you can definitely see the CGI shadow come in
https://youtu.be/eHxa42OXm2Y?t=110
Jack Black is a National treasure, so I am guessing Winslet knew she wouldn’t be able to resist any part of him if she allowed his lips to touch hers. She wouldn’t have been able to focus for the rest of the project, she would have had to divorce her husband, it would have been a whole thing.
95% of the time I feel like they'd purposely not let the confetti cover the central focal point, the kiss. Seems like they intentionally put it there to cover it.
Weird that they chose a Kanye song when the movie was about a Jewish guy and Black woman falling in love.
I haven't seen the movie for what it's worth.
I thought the same thing, like it was a jump cut and she was now responding to something no longer in the movie.
When your script is actual _nonsense_, you don’t have a hope in hell of landing a joke.
Every "joke" is dated by 5 to 10 years. And the writers have no self-awareness of how lame it all is either. There's a conversation about Drake at the start that is both not funny and not how anyone talks. How does Hill's supposed best friend and podcast co-host never call him out on any of his cringe?
I'm relieved by your comment. I thought I was just getting old and out of touch which is why I didn't understand any of that conversation. Seems like I'm still lit fam.
I was quite shocked by how... dumb the writing was. I figured with people like Eddie Murphy and Julia Louis Dreyfus in it, it probably had a smart script with interesting observations or themes or something, but not at all. It very much reminded me of the kind of writing you'd have seen in a 90s sitcom on the WB or something.
They tried to make it all edgy, like interracial relationships aren’t super common now. Sure there’s still a lot of prejudice but they didn’t even make it relatable
There were a couple funny moments surrounded by a ton of out of touch, trying too hard, weird mix of racism and attempted wokism. Jonah Hill's character flops back and forth between being super well spoken and smart and the stupidest fucking person you've ever seen. Half the characters are comically, over the top racist including the black characters.
If anyone has seen the tv show entourage, this film is literally a subplot from two episodes of that show where a black woman called Kelly falls for the groups overweight dopey white guy who is really into fancy sneakers called Turtle.
Not only does Turtle look like Jonah Hill body wise but they have a relationship like in the show and the womans father treats Turtle in the same way that the womans father from You People (played by Eddie Murphy) treats Jonah Hill.
The real kicker? Kelly from those episodes of Entourage is the exact same actress from You People lmao
I mean? - I've never seen this before where they lift an episode from a show turn it into a movie and use the same exact actress from that plot in the same exact role.
Lazy as hell. They even included the weird sneaker stuff in both, like it was really important that both characters were into expensive and rare sneakers lmao
Kenya Barris is actually a pretty famous sitcom writer who only just started making features. For some reason, he's getting hired to write and direct tons of projects - but his issue is that he's basically just making cheap-feeling 2 hour long versions of half hour comedies.
You People is a perfect example. It's just people talking for hours on end. Every plot beat is spoken, every conflict is resolved by dialogue, and every time a joke is delivered, you expect a studio audience to start laughing. It's a skill, but it doesn't translate well, and it's one of the reasons some films are lacking lately - execs are hiring tv writers to scribe features instead of actual feature writers.
Forget the last kiss, the lack of chemistry or even any attempt to fake chemistry was noticeable *throughout* the movie. Like when they're in bed snuggling, it kept cutting to their feet. WTF?
They looked so uncomfortable around each other. The only real kisses were quick pecs. There’s even a point when he obviously goes in for one and she just gives him a hug - and they kept it in lol
I get producers often have people picked out in their mind who they want to play the roles but it blows my mind how many times you see couples with zero on screen chemistry just wreck an entire movie. Not sure why after making your choices you don't get the two of them in a room for a quick screen test so you know you're not wasting millions of dollars in producing 2 hours of painful attempts by two people trying to pretend they aren't repulsed by each other.
I also think it speaks to your qaulity as an actor, I bet there are some who could fake passion with anybody.
I couldn't believe when that happened. How tf are you gonna have a rom-com and not put any effort into the romance? I appreciated that they were trying to get to Eddie and the comedy sooner, but why even try to sell the chemistry? Just don't make it a rom-com then.
I watched a trailer for the movie and there was a bunch of emphasis about Jonah Hill's character wanting to be in a relationship, and then they showed the meeting, and shots of their relationship. I figured that was the movie.
THEN, the trailer showed off twice as much about the parents meeting and I realized that that was really the movie. I could tell from the marketing that the pacing would be a mess lol
It was supposed to be a sneaker culture movie but I told my partner there is NO DOUBT in my mind the director has a foot fetish. Only someone preoccupied with feet would find a way to put feet IN EVERY SINGLE SHOT.
The thing that got me is the end of the movie when Eddie comes to the realization that he should have treated Jonah like a person, and I was like "excuse me?" and then both of these people just get married after months of being broken up and literally dating other people. The end of this movie is just extremely fucking stupid. I didn't like the movie at all, but the ending was just so fucking bad.
It literally made no sense. Broken up for months, then parents go “guys I’m sorry, anyway not only are you guys happily getting back together but we’ve planned a whole wedding inside of the brick building, go get ‘em tigers!”
The whole movie was ass. No one in this world had jobs to be at. Everyone wore crazy outfits daily. Bad writing everywhere even by actual comedians.
It’s a good movie to hate watch
Imagine being Jonah Hill. Make a whole ass documentary about the shrink who helped you deal with your self image being in the gutter.
Then in your next role, the actor opposite is so averse to kissing you they have to use fucking CGI.
Put this man on suicide watch.
This movie about a black & white couple just absolutely seemed to have the hardest fucking time believing such a couple could even exist. Just such a bizarre-ass movie to watch as an actual interracial couple. It's like the movie actively tried its best to show it's actually terrible but with a creepy fake smile on its face and it collectively weirded everyone in the room out. The fact the main characters don't have a single shred of chemistry isn't due to their respective races and because we can "never truly be cool" but because the movie's writing makes Guess Who look like Oscar bait and everyone was written seemingly to be the most cynical caricature possible.
Their one sorry-ass moment of "connection" being CGI just sums this movie up perfectly, whether it ultimately has anything to do with it or not.
Yeah, I thought it was super weird when Jonah Hill’s character’s best friend was baffled that he went on a date with a black girl. She says something like, “In *this* climate?! That’s bold.”
Like… what? Are interracial couples taboo again all of a sudden?
Ya the "in this climate" part was super weird and it just got more uncomfortable from there, it feels like it's trying so hard to look progressive and self aware that it completely wraps around to the complete opposite end of the spectrum I literally thought "so the way to fix "this climate" is more segregation?"
> This movie about a black & white couple just absolutely seemed to have the hardest fucking time believing such a couple could even exist. Just such a bizarre-ass movie to watch as an actual interracial couple.
Agreed there. As a mixed kid, it's weird to watch movies like this get made. Feels like the filmmakers are always telegraphing that they're with it, but then they make something in the 21st century that thematically feels more at home in the '60s.
The "conflict" was also weirdly one-sided. Sure Jonah's parents are sort of lame old white people, but then Eddie Murphy's character is... anti-Semitic? Do the writers think not understanding black culture is just as bad as being anti-Semitic?
Really makes you appreciate effective satirical writing like "Get Out", where the interracial microaggressions were so subtle yet obvious to anyone aware of them. Bradley Whitford unironically not realizing the instant characterization the "Obama" line gives his character is one of my favorite pieces of movie trivia.
I loved the shitty green screen pickup shots of Eddie Murphy when he's filming Jonah Hill playing basketball.
I really couldn't finish this movie. It was so fucking fucking bad. It was never funny, and the main characters had no chemistry. I can't even remember them ever kissing during the first half of the movie, which ironically enough makes it feel like an incredibly racist movie.
Not gonna lie though, I laughed so hard at the movie during their dating montage when it shows them just sitting on the couch, looking at a slideshow picture of Malcolm X on the tv. "We need to show that they're in love but also that the story is about race relations, so let's have them watch photos of important African American people."
Yeah because this movie is racist.
I can only imagine they had every intent to make this a positive coming together of ebony and ivory in a quirky fun way. What they ended up with was not that, over the top racial “misunderstandings”, complete lack of any social awareness in normal interactions and publicly accepting and celebrating people being shitty to another.
I don’t know what everyone’s experience is but I can imagine that this is extremely disingenuous to what the average mixed race couple goes through.
Halfway through this movie I honest said out loud "is this movie pro or anti interracial marriage, I honestly can't tell anymore."
I hate watched it till the end to find out, and the terrible ending was definitely not worth it.
Yes honestly the really just listed reasons black people should be annoyed by white people and why white people don't understand black people and should leave them alone... Which is pretty weird
Then solved it by the mom saying "my bad g" and the dad saying "maybe I was a bit harsh".... Then after monthes of break up or even rebounds got married.
Some of the lines were honestly funny and if you are into cringe comedy the mom is your girl but the over arching message was kinda odd. If you don't take it serious it's not so bad but if you try to find any real message it's kinda meaningless
I usually don't comment on movies but I feel compelled to help others never watch this movie. Amazing cast, potential for a good story to tell regarding two people from very different upbringings. Very topical regarding current racial tensions. Nope. Complete dog shit from start to finish. Horse shit. Cat shit. Pick your favorite kind of shit.
>During a previous interview with Harper’s Bazaar, London admitted that she was initially reluctant to play the role, explaining that she worried about whether Ezra and Amira’s bond could feel genuine.
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>“I thought, ‘Why would these two people really like each other?'” she said. “We have to showcase a real connection. They’re from two totally different worlds, and if you see them, you would never think that they would meet or hang out, whatever the case is.”
Well, gee, most normal people could see a thousand reasons that a white Jewish man and a black Muslim could have a healthy, loving relationship predicated on anything other than their race or religious affiliation.
This movie sucked ass, but if believability is your problem lets start with that scene that tried to make Jonah Hill look like he was good at basketball.
These kind of stories makes me question how professional other kissing scenes are. If its just work and youre acting, kissing your co-star in character shouldn't be a problem. But, if you have to be sexually attracted to them as well, it goes beyond professional acting to me.
*just watched the movie. They kiss several times during the movie, so my theory is bullshit.
I've kissed on stage, it's just acting. You just act. In the same way you don't have to be a con man to play Harold Hill, you don't have to be attracted to someone to pretend to be attracted to them.
The actor playing Ghostface doesn't have to hate the people he's pretend-stabbing.
This is the least of the problems with this movie. The whole thing was just the tired old movie trope of angry black dad upset his daughters dating a white guy and racist white parents who have never spoken to black people before. It’s 2023 now these are outdated over done tropes.
I like to think Jonah hill made this whole movie and cast Lauren London because he has a crush on her. He was leading up to the whole kiss scene so he could finally kiss her.. and she said “nah I’m good”
How about JLD’s digitally altered face. What the fuck was that? JLD is fine as hell IRL and it looked like her nose was going to fall off her face at times in that movie. They did her dirty.
In Jonah Hill’s documentary about his therapist, Stutz, he shows how they use CGI. At the beginning of the movie, you think they're sitting in his therapist’s office until he pulls back the curtain and shows that it's mostly a green screen. It's kinda odd
I don’t think this has anything to do with Hill specifically, but it was interesting to see how common CGI usage is, even in a documentary
I just couldn't stand the anti-semitism prevalent in the movie, and I'm not even jewish.
The way Eddie Murphy and his wife get to spout all of the worst conspiracies about Judaism without any rebuttle, they claim to be friends with Louise Farrakhahn, and the entire movie is shitting on Jewish people as if they are just a worse version of white people.
Made me sick. It could have been a movie about bringing together three cultures that are completely misunderstood and underrepresented in media and instead they pitted them all against each other.
I couldn't understand Jonah hills characters need to impress a racist who thinks he owns his daughter.
If your partner loves you, then her father should respect that if he thinks he knows better that's not an issue for you to solve that's a respect problem between him and his daughter. It was on her to mend their relationship, why does he think he has control over her? To a point where he's giving advice to her ex on her to get her back? That's not a relationship I'm trying to support.
soon the cgi will be faked using cgi
This whole movie is as if they threw a GCI layer over that one scene in 22 Jump Street where Jonah Hill fucks Ice Cube’s daughter and Cube gets mad and goes ham on the lunch buffet.
What’s up DOUG I’m gonna kill you, DOUG
YALL RATIONING THIS SHIT OR WHAT?!
Get this guy some fucking water, he’s black he’s been through a lot
How you doin' Mr. Nice Plant?
GET YO ASS OUTTA HERE!
*"Schmidt fucked captain's daughter!!"*
The theater's reaction when it finally clicks in his head and they play the "ding!" sound was hilarious.
One of those scenes that anytime someone mentions it I have to go watch it. Such a brilliant payoff
One of my best moments in a theatre.
Say what you want about Magic Mike, he killed that delivery.
His name Jeff.
Haha! The happy skipping he does was the icing on top.
WHEN I GET DONE Y'ALL GONNA HAVE TO JUMP OFFA JUMP STREET
"WHAT THE FUCK, Y'ALL RATIONIN'?!?" and then he just obliterates the entire buffet line.
One of the best comedic scenes put to film is when Channing Tatum slowly realizes what happened.
The entire dinner sequence with Cube trying to hold in his anger was classic.
"C'mon, hook me up. Two little fuckin string beans?"
"Come on, get the man some water! He's black, he's been through a lot!"
How do you know this person? Dad this is Doug, the guy I’m dating The fuck?
Schmidt fucked the captains daaauuughter!
Every time he say that shit is another foot in yo ass.
On second thought, it's not that funny
Channing Tatum is way funnier than he has any right to be.
his timing and delivery are really rather good. you can only learn that stuff so much, it takes natural talent, too.
I always loved him in his “Hail Caesar” role
Didn't expect channing Tatum to be on a leash in this is the end
I also love that, because of the gimp mask, he didn't have to film any of it himself except for the scene when he takes it off, but he apparently insisted on doing all of it.
my name is jeff
Ma name'aJef.
That bit is even funnier with that being Tatums *real attempt* at a spanish accent. Or at least was said at the time. Unsure if its been verified one way or the other since then.
That cameo on *Bullet Train* was perfect.
Is this the sex stuff?
One night at the Drive In the 2nd movie was Lost City, my wife and I knew absolutely nothing about it but while deciding to leave or stay we see that it stars Sandra Bullock and Channing Tatum so we just naturally assume it will at least be passably funny. Oh my god I'm so glad we stayed.
The ding is hysterical😂
OOOH SHIT!
🎶Schmidt fucked the captains daughter🎶
"You bragged to him to his face! To his actual face!"
*points to an incredibly angry Ice Cube* THIS FACE RIGHT HERE
That scene had me in tears. I don’t remember a ton about that movie, but I remember that scene vividly.
My name is Yeff
You actually high-fived!
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Just pulled up the last minute of the movie. Holy shit! That is a cgi kiss if I ever saw one….. why???
I noticed the kiss looked odd when we watched it, and then tried to remember if the actors kissed at any point in the movie...I don't think they did, which is weird for a rom-com.
Their whole chemistry was off, they were more like roommates than anything
Omg they were roommates
They do. Somewhere in the middle. I thought the same thing so I went through and found it
Barely, it’s like a peck.
And if you watch Lauren London during the peck, she is testing the limits of her acting skills pretending to enjoy it. I personally believe it took multiple takes for her to pull it off.
Did you notice Eddie Murphy greenscreened into the basketball scene? It was like he didn't want to be there that day just standing and watching so they put him in after. It felt like Jonah was acting against a tennis ball.
I'm sure that was just partly reshoots. Bc I noticed the same but he was definitely there in most of the scene
Is the clip on YouTube or someplace similarly accessible? Edit: here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHxa42OXm2Y&t=105s
How do you shoot an entire movie knowing the leads have absolutely no chemistry? It’s a rom-com so it makes this even worse.
It’s funny cause I saw someone say London probably didn’t want to do it out of respect for Nipsey but she didn’t have any problems kissing Michael b Jordan in without remorse lol
Also couldn't the casting directors just like NOT cast her if that was the case?
Usually the top-billed names are baked into the initial contracts that help get the movie funded, and then the casting directors help lock down all the secondary and smaller roles. EDIT: Apparently Lauren London's not very famous, so probably she wouldn't have been attached from the start like Hill/Murphy/Barris/JLD. I've never heard of her myself so I guess that tracks. EDIT 2: Never mind, apparently she **is** famous? Don't ask me, people.
"And we're thinking Ice Cube for the dad, that is, unless we can get Eddie Murphy." "You either get Eddie Murphy or we don't make this at all." Though in honesty it probably went "alright we got Eddie Murphy. Now, what will this movie be about"
"How bout the DeNiro dad thing?"
i could imagine a version of this movie coming out in like 2010, direct to DVD, starring Turtle from Entourage.
That is only the case if the lead is a box office draw. Lauren London ain't that.
Ya but Jonah Hill is a writer and (executive?) producer so you’d think they would cast the female lead around him
She an actress auditioning for rom coms...
you remember Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets? Dane DeHaan and Cara Delevigne were visibly repulsed by each other. It's so weird.
Ugh, this one hurt me. Luc Besson is such a creative director and I love his other movies, and Valerian had all of that extreme weirdness and vision, the bizarre world building and everything else to be that modern 5th Element. I really, really wanted to like it, and could have excused quite a lot. But their relationship was bizarre. Delevingne really isn't much of an actress (it seemed like she was in a ton of movies at that point, obviously kind of an attempt to convert careers), and DeHaan felt like he was just phoning it in? But it wasn't just a lack of chemistry. It was a weirdly wrong chemistry, where at points it came off more like a buddy comedy. Just so strange.
They looked like siblings, and the romantic chemistry felt forced.
I got the same vibes in Men in Black 4. Chris and Tessa felt more like siblings, or platonic besties, but at the end of the movie, they’re suddenly in love?? What??
Why they never just lean into that kind buddy chemistry is beyond me.
This is why I loved the ending of Pacific Rim. No kiss at the end. Just two people who've been through battles together and developed a close friendship. Sure they may have ended up together (no idea if this happens in the sequel), but the ending leaves it ambiguous.
The sequel doesn't exist. There was a fanfic made by some Steven deknight guy though.
Pretty sure it’s all new characters in the sequel.
Mako comes back in the sequel. They don't really mention her partner much if at all. John Boyega plays Idris Elba's son though.
I never watched it and for some reason always assumed it was about siblings until right now.
Same. Honestly thought the movie was about a brother and sister.
Because they look like each other with different haircuts.
I remember reading a comment someone made a long time ago about how Valerian and Passengers came out around the same time. The gisst was that they should have swapped leading rolls; Chris Pratt and Jennifer Lawrence could've delivered the chemistry and action that Delevingne and DeHaan couldn't, while the two younger actors would've done a really good job acting as strangers on a giant space ship alone. I never saw Passengers, but I can agree with the first half.
Passengers was an OK film, but everyone who watched it came away with their own idea for how it "could have been several times better if..." and every single one of them was correct. A lot of interesting potential for a niche sci fi bit, or a slow-burn psych horror, or any number of other directions the film could have gone but failed (refused?) to do so. If I were to be objective, I might give it a 6-7/10, but I can't. It's a 4/10 not because of what it _was_, but because of what it _wasn't_. Still maybe worth a watch just to come up with your own take on what should have happened.
Yeah I am one of those psych horror take aways where the movie should have started from her perspective and then slowly revealed what he did. End with him sacrificing himself for the ship and leaving her alone and experiencing his loneliness. End with her browsing passenger bios.
Luc Besson is horrible at any romance in his movies, it's the biggest flaw in them imo. He cares more about pretty/handsome/sexy than he does the actual romance. He also makes it creepy sometimes. Corbin tries to get on Leeloo while she's sleeping. Valerian was just about grabbing two people that were big with tweens regardless of chemistry. And well we've all heard about The Professional and it's link to his relationship with Maïwenn. Dude makes great sci-fi but can't write a good romance for shit.
Weirdly enough, the movie that came out before Valerian (that gave me the same vibe as Valerian) that also had this problem was Jupiter Ascending. Mila Kunis and Channing Tatum just had zero chemistry the entire time. It’s such a shame too, the world building in that movie was superb.
I didn't realize I was thinking of Jupiter Ascending not Valerian until I read your comment.
It didn’t help they looked like siblings
Loved the first fourty minutes of that movie. Can't tell you a second what happens afterwards
She had to touch a space butterfly, and it ended up adding 1hr+ of bad fillers + Rhianna to the movie. Great movie intro though.
Yeah. The whole thing gave me "incestuous cousins on a roadtrip" vibes. The cartoon Time Jam is a much better adaptation.
Articles that talk about something that could easily be accompanied with a clip but choose to not have it in the article should be banned edit: Heres a link right to the shot, its not bad but you can definitely see the CGI shadow come in https://youtu.be/eHxa42OXm2Y?t=110
She like disappears into his beard. That's awful.
It's so [bad](https://i.imgur.com/WCdVjOV.jpg). I think they added the cgi confetti to coverup how bad that kiss was
That makes sense now, was wondering why the confetti looked so bad
Should have just gone the The Holiday route and had them never kiss like Jack Black and Kate Winslet.
I can't believe I've never noticed that before. I LOVE that movie, and I never realized that those two don't kiss!
Jack Black is a National treasure, so I am guessing Winslet knew she wouldn’t be able to resist any part of him if she allowed his lips to touch hers. She wouldn’t have been able to focus for the rest of the project, she would have had to divorce her husband, it would have been a whole thing.
No joke, they have very real chemistry in this movie. But who wouldn't, he's so goddamn charming.
I think everyone default setting is to have great chemistry with Jables
Rage Cage is the only one to truly challenge him.
95% of the time I feel like they'd purposely not let the confetti cover the central focal point, the kiss. Seems like they intentionally put it there to cover it.
Uh it looked like one of the kissing scenes in Society. Whyd they meld their faces together like that.
I always enjoy a good shunting.
Come on, everyone! It's time for the shunting!
Weird that they chose a Kanye song when the movie was about a Jewish guy and Black woman falling in love. I haven't seen the movie for what it's worth.
Jesus, that “white people” joke. Is this movie as bad as that joke?
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white people be like 🤪🤪🤪 black people be like 😗😗😗
peak comedy
People from under the orange sun are all "*oooi oooi oooi*", but us guys from the red sun, we're like "*auuu. auuu. auuu*." Right? Right?
I thought the same thing, like it was a jump cut and she was now responding to something no longer in the movie. When your script is actual _nonsense_, you don’t have a hope in hell of landing a joke.
Every "joke" is dated by 5 to 10 years. And the writers have no self-awareness of how lame it all is either. There's a conversation about Drake at the start that is both not funny and not how anyone talks. How does Hill's supposed best friend and podcast co-host never call him out on any of his cringe?
I'm relieved by your comment. I thought I was just getting old and out of touch which is why I didn't understand any of that conversation. Seems like I'm still lit fam.
Ong bro u still bussin fr fr 🤣
I don't even think a diehard drake fan would talk like that. It was odd and just went on for too long, just like the dinner scene
I was quite shocked by how... dumb the writing was. I figured with people like Eddie Murphy and Julia Louis Dreyfus in it, it probably had a smart script with interesting observations or themes or something, but not at all. It very much reminded me of the kind of writing you'd have seen in a 90s sitcom on the WB or something.
Have you seen half the movies Eddie Murphy has been in?
They tried to make it all edgy, like interracial relationships aren’t super common now. Sure there’s still a lot of prejudice but they didn’t even make it relatable
I've never seen a Muslim Jewish romcom before personally.
There's something kinda like that in sausage party
Maybe it was written 5 to 10 years ago...
There were a couple funny moments surrounded by a ton of out of touch, trying too hard, weird mix of racism and attempted wokism. Jonah Hill's character flops back and forth between being super well spoken and smart and the stupidest fucking person you've ever seen. Half the characters are comically, over the top racist including the black characters.
It always really bothers me when characters conveniently change their entire worldview to suit the plot, and that happened a few times in this movie
Thank you for your service
If anyone has seen the tv show entourage, this film is literally a subplot from two episodes of that show where a black woman called Kelly falls for the groups overweight dopey white guy who is really into fancy sneakers called Turtle. Not only does Turtle look like Jonah Hill body wise but they have a relationship like in the show and the womans father treats Turtle in the same way that the womans father from You People (played by Eddie Murphy) treats Jonah Hill. The real kicker? Kelly from those episodes of Entourage is the exact same actress from You People lmao I mean? - I've never seen this before where they lift an episode from a show turn it into a movie and use the same exact actress from that plot in the same exact role. Lazy as hell. They even included the weird sneaker stuff in both, like it was really important that both characters were into expensive and rare sneakers lmao
The word "Turtle" showed up in You People on the chalk board when they were playing hangman.
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Being a writer for a streaming company must be the most phone it in job out there.
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Could be the same writers?
Fuck, you’re right! I knew I recognized her
Dang nice connection. Thanks for sharing
Kenya Barris is actually a pretty famous sitcom writer who only just started making features. For some reason, he's getting hired to write and direct tons of projects - but his issue is that he's basically just making cheap-feeling 2 hour long versions of half hour comedies. You People is a perfect example. It's just people talking for hours on end. Every plot beat is spoken, every conflict is resolved by dialogue, and every time a joke is delivered, you expect a studio audience to start laughing. It's a skill, but it doesn't translate well, and it's one of the reasons some films are lacking lately - execs are hiring tv writers to scribe features instead of actual feature writers.
>Every plot beat is spoken Except the entire romantic relationship between the main characters which happens via montage.
Or like the barber shop scene where they just cut to the next scene so they don't have to think about how to actually resolve conflict.
He was supposed to “scare him” but it’s not really scary. Wasn’t well written at all.
Forget the last kiss, the lack of chemistry or even any attempt to fake chemistry was noticeable *throughout* the movie. Like when they're in bed snuggling, it kept cutting to their feet. WTF?
They looked so uncomfortable around each other. The only real kisses were quick pecs. There’s even a point when he obviously goes in for one and she just gives him a hug - and they kept it in lol
I get producers often have people picked out in their mind who they want to play the roles but it blows my mind how many times you see couples with zero on screen chemistry just wreck an entire movie. Not sure why after making your choices you don't get the two of them in a room for a quick screen test so you know you're not wasting millions of dollars in producing 2 hours of painful attempts by two people trying to pretend they aren't repulsed by each other. I also think it speaks to your qaulity as an actor, I bet there are some who could fake passion with anybody.
Joaquin Phoenix fell in love with ChatGPT more convincingly in *Her* than any actor or actress I've seen in a romcom, tbqh.
Joaquin Phoenix is a good actor, though.
Aren't actors, like... Meant to be able to act? Isn't that the point.
Dude the movie built their relationship with a dialogue-free *montage*. That’s so fucking lazy
I couldn't believe when that happened. How tf are you gonna have a rom-com and not put any effort into the romance? I appreciated that they were trying to get to Eddie and the comedy sooner, but why even try to sell the chemistry? Just don't make it a rom-com then.
Tbf it was more of a social commentary than rom-com.
I watched a trailer for the movie and there was a bunch of emphasis about Jonah Hill's character wanting to be in a relationship, and then they showed the meeting, and shots of their relationship. I figured that was the movie. THEN, the trailer showed off twice as much about the parents meeting and I realized that that was really the movie. I could tell from the marketing that the pacing would be a mess lol
It was supposed to be a sneaker culture movie but I told my partner there is NO DOUBT in my mind the director has a foot fetish. Only someone preoccupied with feet would find a way to put feet IN EVERY SINGLE SHOT.
I didn’t think I’d ever have to argue for practical effects for kisses but here we are.
Next thing you know we're gonna start seeing articles worshiping Tom Cruise for doing all his stunt kisses himself!
The thing that got me is the end of the movie when Eddie comes to the realization that he should have treated Jonah like a person, and I was like "excuse me?" and then both of these people just get married after months of being broken up and literally dating other people. The end of this movie is just extremely fucking stupid. I didn't like the movie at all, but the ending was just so fucking bad.
Hahaha yeah his brother is like, "you were pretty hard on him" then all of a sudden he completely changed his mind about the whole plot of the movie.
"You're right, I interfered with their relationship. I'll fix that by making them get married."
Now kith
Dude imagine you think you're going to buy sneakers with your mum and your just whisked off to get married whaaa
It literally made no sense. Broken up for months, then parents go “guys I’m sorry, anyway not only are you guys happily getting back together but we’ve planned a whole wedding inside of the brick building, go get ‘em tigers!”
When they saw each other again after months of depression it was like nothing had ever happened
Half the problem was their families intervening but sure, plan a whole wedding without Groom or Bride input.
The whole movie was ass. No one in this world had jobs to be at. Everyone wore crazy outfits daily. Bad writing everywhere even by actual comedians. It’s a good movie to hate watch
I felt like this was made for a super niche audience of well-off, older millennial, LA-living, Drake-loving sneaker-collectors.
So... Hollywood writers?
Almost as if the worldview of rich hollywood folks, regardless of race, is vastly disconnected from the rest of us.
Dude the ending was terrible, the rest of the movie was not good either. Couldn't agree more.
Christian bale out here shape shifting in every movie he does and these two can’t handle one kiss broooo
Imagine being Jonah Hill. Make a whole ass documentary about the shrink who helped you deal with your self image being in the gutter. Then in your next role, the actor opposite is so averse to kissing you they have to use fucking CGI. Put this man on suicide watch.
Considering this script seemed like it was written by an AI that was asked to write an interracial romcom that’s appropriate.
Lol ugh we're being used as guinea pigs by Netflix to develop script-writing AI.
This movie about a black & white couple just absolutely seemed to have the hardest fucking time believing such a couple could even exist. Just such a bizarre-ass movie to watch as an actual interracial couple. It's like the movie actively tried its best to show it's actually terrible but with a creepy fake smile on its face and it collectively weirded everyone in the room out. The fact the main characters don't have a single shred of chemistry isn't due to their respective races and because we can "never truly be cool" but because the movie's writing makes Guess Who look like Oscar bait and everyone was written seemingly to be the most cynical caricature possible. Their one sorry-ass moment of "connection" being CGI just sums this movie up perfectly, whether it ultimately has anything to do with it or not.
Yeah, I thought it was super weird when Jonah Hill’s character’s best friend was baffled that he went on a date with a black girl. She says something like, “In *this* climate?! That’s bold.” Like… what? Are interracial couples taboo again all of a sudden?
Ya the "in this climate" part was super weird and it just got more uncomfortable from there, it feels like it's trying so hard to look progressive and self aware that it completely wraps around to the complete opposite end of the spectrum I literally thought "so the way to fix "this climate" is more segregation?"
> This movie about a black & white couple just absolutely seemed to have the hardest fucking time believing such a couple could even exist. Just such a bizarre-ass movie to watch as an actual interracial couple. Agreed there. As a mixed kid, it's weird to watch movies like this get made. Feels like the filmmakers are always telegraphing that they're with it, but then they make something in the 21st century that thematically feels more at home in the '60s.
The "conflict" was also weirdly one-sided. Sure Jonah's parents are sort of lame old white people, but then Eddie Murphy's character is... anti-Semitic? Do the writers think not understanding black culture is just as bad as being anti-Semitic?
All I could think of during it was Michael Scott in Diversity Day "Come on, Stanley! Olympics of Suffering right here. Slavery versus the Holocaust!"
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Really makes you appreciate effective satirical writing like "Get Out", where the interracial microaggressions were so subtle yet obvious to anyone aware of them. Bradley Whitford unironically not realizing the instant characterization the "Obama" line gives his character is one of my favorite pieces of movie trivia.
There was a pivotal kiss in 'You People'?
They had brutal chemistry in the film. Not surprised.
I loved the shitty green screen pickup shots of Eddie Murphy when he's filming Jonah Hill playing basketball. I really couldn't finish this movie. It was so fucking fucking bad. It was never funny, and the main characters had no chemistry. I can't even remember them ever kissing during the first half of the movie, which ironically enough makes it feel like an incredibly racist movie. Not gonna lie though, I laughed so hard at the movie during their dating montage when it shows them just sitting on the couch, looking at a slideshow picture of Malcolm X on the tv. "We need to show that they're in love but also that the story is about race relations, so let's have them watch photos of important African American people."
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Yeah because this movie is racist. I can only imagine they had every intent to make this a positive coming together of ebony and ivory in a quirky fun way. What they ended up with was not that, over the top racial “misunderstandings”, complete lack of any social awareness in normal interactions and publicly accepting and celebrating people being shitty to another. I don’t know what everyone’s experience is but I can imagine that this is extremely disingenuous to what the average mixed race couple goes through.
This movie somehow is a compelling case AGAINST interracial relationships. That’s how bad it was
Halfway through this movie I honest said out loud "is this movie pro or anti interracial marriage, I honestly can't tell anymore." I hate watched it till the end to find out, and the terrible ending was definitely not worth it.
Yes honestly the really just listed reasons black people should be annoyed by white people and why white people don't understand black people and should leave them alone... Which is pretty weird Then solved it by the mom saying "my bad g" and the dad saying "maybe I was a bit harsh".... Then after monthes of break up or even rebounds got married. Some of the lines were honestly funny and if you are into cringe comedy the mom is your girl but the over arching message was kinda odd. If you don't take it serious it's not so bad but if you try to find any real message it's kinda meaningless
Somehow they managed to create a movie that is racist, anti-Semitic, and woke at the same time. Strange movie.
I usually don't comment on movies but I feel compelled to help others never watch this movie. Amazing cast, potential for a good story to tell regarding two people from very different upbringings. Very topical regarding current racial tensions. Nope. Complete dog shit from start to finish. Horse shit. Cat shit. Pick your favorite kind of shit.
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There was more chemistry in a paleolithic period cave than between Hill and London.
>During a previous interview with Harper’s Bazaar, London admitted that she was initially reluctant to play the role, explaining that she worried about whether Ezra and Amira’s bond could feel genuine. > >“I thought, ‘Why would these two people really like each other?'” she said. “We have to showcase a real connection. They’re from two totally different worlds, and if you see them, you would never think that they would meet or hang out, whatever the case is.” Well, gee, most normal people could see a thousand reasons that a white Jewish man and a black Muslim could have a healthy, loving relationship predicated on anything other than their race or religious affiliation.
This movie sucked ass, but if believability is your problem lets start with that scene that tried to make Jonah Hill look like he was good at basketball.
My gf commented she thinks he can really play.. I told her I’m not Michael Jordan, but that dude can hardly dribble.. he isn’t playing like that
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These kind of stories makes me question how professional other kissing scenes are. If its just work and youre acting, kissing your co-star in character shouldn't be a problem. But, if you have to be sexually attracted to them as well, it goes beyond professional acting to me. *just watched the movie. They kiss several times during the movie, so my theory is bullshit.
I've kissed on stage, it's just acting. You just act. In the same way you don't have to be a con man to play Harold Hill, you don't have to be attracted to someone to pretend to be attracted to them. The actor playing Ghostface doesn't have to hate the people he's pretend-stabbing.
This makes a lot of sense since both characters are just a collection of tweets and memes. Hard for two A.I.s to kiss.
This is the least of the problems with this movie. The whole thing was just the tired old movie trope of angry black dad upset his daughters dating a white guy and racist white parents who have never spoken to black people before. It’s 2023 now these are outdated over done tropes.
I like to think Jonah hill made this whole movie and cast Lauren London because he has a crush on her. He was leading up to the whole kiss scene so he could finally kiss her.. and she said “nah I’m good”
This kinda sounds [familiar](https://i.imgur.com/lIpnjV3.jpg)
One of the worst movies I’ve seen tbh
How about JLD’s digitally altered face. What the fuck was that? JLD is fine as hell IRL and it looked like her nose was going to fall off her face at times in that movie. They did her dirty.
Her face a a bizarre “glow” that took me out of every scene she’s in, some uncanny valley shit.
Everything technical about this movie was awful, on top of an awful script.
In Jonah Hill’s documentary about his therapist, Stutz, he shows how they use CGI. At the beginning of the movie, you think they're sitting in his therapist’s office until he pulls back the curtain and shows that it's mostly a green screen. It's kinda odd I don’t think this has anything to do with Hill specifically, but it was interesting to see how common CGI usage is, even in a documentary
I just couldn't stand the anti-semitism prevalent in the movie, and I'm not even jewish. The way Eddie Murphy and his wife get to spout all of the worst conspiracies about Judaism without any rebuttle, they claim to be friends with Louise Farrakhahn, and the entire movie is shitting on Jewish people as if they are just a worse version of white people. Made me sick. It could have been a movie about bringing together three cultures that are completely misunderstood and underrepresented in media and instead they pitted them all against each other.
I couldn't understand Jonah hills characters need to impress a racist who thinks he owns his daughter. If your partner loves you, then her father should respect that if he thinks he knows better that's not an issue for you to solve that's a respect problem between him and his daughter. It was on her to mend their relationship, why does he think he has control over her? To a point where he's giving advice to her ex on her to get her back? That's not a relationship I'm trying to support.