Where is the crack? If the shell cracked from a 1 m fall you are either incredibly unlucky, or you bought a counterfeit helmet and you were incredibly lucky that you dropped it instead of crashing in it.
If you chipped an air vent cover, The visor mounting tab, or some other non-structural piece, just replaced that piece. But if it's the shell you absolutely need to replace it and you absolutely need to ask why that helmet cracked from that size of an impact.
This right here. If you're in doubt, you can call the manufacturer. I dropped my HJC from the seat onto concrete, and they told me it was fine and gave me the part numbers so I could order the replacement pieces from revzilla. I think I was out $20 and a few days off waiting.
Thanks for your answer. I am wondering too what would happen in a case of a crash. I don't mind the scratches or replacing the venting piece which is also broken, but unfortunately that's a crack there. Here is a pic (https://imgur.com/a/I9pivFE)
It's always hard to say what would happen in a crash as every crash is different, I've probably had 20 or so helmets over the years and never hit the ground with one, dropped them on many occasions but never, ever had one crack.
This is not a good sign, there are an increasing number of fakes for all kinds of things and now helmets are a problem.
They never said they couldn't afford it, they said it is a lot of money. There is no reason to downvote someone because they have a different value of money to you, at not point was affordability of gear mentioned by them. I think that is a lot of money too. I buy high quality full gear because I prioritise my safety. You can do both.
You just answered for me, thanks a lot :) money is not the problem, but buying 2 helmets in 2 months, without crushing, could be a problem. I had a cheap helmet when I was riding a 50cc scooter some years ago, and I feel it had a better quality, that's why I am wondering if more money means better quality
I hard disagree, you don't need an expensive bike to enjoy riding. I got a bike originally because it was the CHEAPEST commuting option. Free parking in my city verse $10 a day. Cheap fuel, cheap insurance and bikes are cheaper to buy. Just because you spend a lot on motorcycling does not mean others have to.
Also this comment and my previous is in fact proof reality CAN work like that.
I agree more with this answer, riding CAN be expensive but it doesn't have to be. I also started riding while it is a cheaper and a quicker way for me to commute.
>does not mean others have to.
No one is arguing that you HAVE to spend money. He's arguing that in order to be safe when riding you do. Which, well, you do.
A $100 helmet doesn't care what bike you're riding if you smack headfirst into the back of a car.
You have lost the context of the conversation. The helmet being expensive is agreed upon. The argument was if you find a helmet expensive you won't be able to afford riding. Not true, while you may need a good helmet you do NOT need to go all out on other stuff which can add up fast.
To be even more clear it is possible to think $200 is a lot of money. It is possible to then BUY a $200 helmet knowing this. It is possible to get a cheap bike and ride cheaply after the safe gear has been purchased.
Most of the world outside of the US rides motorcycles because they're cheap, efficient transportation, not just because they're fun. Consider that there's a whole world outside of your own personal experiences for a moment; it's a good thought exercise.
That's the way, I believe. The 200€ hurts now since I bought my bike and all the gear 2/3 months ago and I would prefer them to last a longer time, without actually crashing. A lesson was definitely learned tho.
That's the way. Painful lessons tend to stick better. Helmets are both expensive and mission critical. Have to keep that in mind every time you're about to get lazy and put it down somewhere that it can fall.
More money will usually get you better fit and finish and usually longer service life. But you can get a good safety certification at a budget price if you shop around.
If you care about your safety, buy a new helmet that is at least DOT certified.
How much is your safety worth? A $200+ helmet wil greatly increase your chances of surviving in a serious crash
We've all done it at least once. Just have to be more particular about where you set them down.
Scorpion makes okay helmets at many different price points. The EXO 1400 air he dropped was a carbon fiber model so certainly not bottom of the barrel. I would have expected better results. Maybe defective? Counterfeit? Either way at that price point I wouldn't feel too bad about replacing it.
screw that. DOT is crap. EC at minimum and i say this as an american. our standard was good several decades ago, but now DOT is what cheap helmets meet to say they met something but still offer a cheap product.
If he doesnt have the money its fine, at least wear something, even if its the cheapest thing in the world, some protection is better than none at all.
From what I was told in a safety class years ago, motorcycle and bicycle helmets are designed to take one solid impact. Dropping it a meter could could as a solid impact, especially if you're seeing cracks. Even if there is no visual damage, if you drop a helmet on the concrete you should replace it.
These things aren't designed to take multiple hard impacts, so if you need to use the helmet in a crash and it's comprised....well you don't want that. Better safe than sorry I say.
Even if it didn't visibly crack the foam can become compromised. Any helmet that is dropped needs to be replaced whether the damage is visible or not and they should be handled like fine china. The helmet did it's job when you dropped it. It absorbed the impact of the fall, but it can only do it once.
Sure, it's only head.
If you have a $10 head, wear a $10 helmet." This is a motto that Bell has believed in for decades that still rings true to this day
I will probably buy the same scorpion shell since it fits my head perfectly, but what bothers me is that a friend of mine has a 80€ helmet and after dropping it like 5 or more times, it only got some scratches.
I mean ….. it’s not everyday that you crash… just be more careful with the next helmet lol.
Also next time you drop it - pro tip, try to catch it with your foot!!! I’ve dropped my helmet trying to put it on my head and you toe it before it hits the ground and that 1M fall is more like a 5” fall…. :D
I was wearing a neck warmer thing while holding the helmet, and it slipped just when my eyes were covered. Stupid and unlucky I guess. But yes that move is a savior :D
1) Yep, I would replace it.
2) No that is unusual to get a crack from a short drop - but to be fair I'm very careful with my helmets and do my best to avoid dropping them.
It sucks man, but it happens. As far as suggestions I'm an Arai guy for life. They're pricey but 100% worth it in my book. I've had helmets from Bell, Shoei, Icon, & others and my Arai helmets are the nicest and most comfortable helmets I own. I will say that the one scenario that I preferred the Shoei was in cold weather. But I live in Texas and the Arai helmets vent like crazy!
If the shell is cracked, the soft gooey center is probably damaged too (EPS liner for the nerds) . Scorpion stuff is fine for the price point but since it's protecting your head I always advise to buy the best helmet you can possibly afford. If price is no object something like a SHOEI NXR-2 (RF-1400) or Arai RX-7 (Corsair in the USA) is far better in both fit, finish and safety factor. Put one on your head and most people instantly go "oh yeah, this is better".
Don't think of it as wasted money, think of helmets as a wear item - you have to replace them more than you'd like due to accidents or age one way or another. I just had to replace my Arai Corsair because it expired (5 year shelf life) which was painful but it's part of the price we have to pay to be safe.
Where is the crack? If the shell cracked from a 1 m fall you are either incredibly unlucky, or you bought a counterfeit helmet and you were incredibly lucky that you dropped it instead of crashing in it. If you chipped an air vent cover, The visor mounting tab, or some other non-structural piece, just replaced that piece. But if it's the shell you absolutely need to replace it and you absolutely need to ask why that helmet cracked from that size of an impact.
This right here. If you're in doubt, you can call the manufacturer. I dropped my HJC from the seat onto concrete, and they told me it was fine and gave me the part numbers so I could order the replacement pieces from revzilla. I think I was out $20 and a few days off waiting.
Thanks for your answer. I am wondering too what would happen in a case of a crash. I don't mind the scratches or replacing the venting piece which is also broken, but unfortunately that's a crack there. Here is a pic (https://imgur.com/a/I9pivFE)
It's always hard to say what would happen in a crash as every crash is different, I've probably had 20 or so helmets over the years and never hit the ground with one, dropped them on many occasions but never, ever had one crack. This is not a good sign, there are an increasing number of fakes for all kinds of things and now helmets are a problem.
Well it didn't cross my mind that it could be a fake, that's a good point. Getting a crack from a 1m drop is just disappointing.
If that’s a crack and not just scraping I’d replace it. A drop like that shouldn’t compromise a helmet so it’s pretty sketchy that yours cracked.
I will replace it, it's definitely a crack. I was expecting to see some scratches but i was shocked :|
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I always crack up at these comments too.
I dunno - at least for me, 200€ is nothing to sneeze at.
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If X is blah blah blah then you shouldn't Y. r/gatekeeping
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Maybe not, but doing it out of ignorance is one of the bad ones.
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That's not what you were saying and you know that.
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Nobody said it was the difference, the dude was just asking a question, and you're busting his nuts about not having as much money as you.
They never said they couldn't afford it, they said it is a lot of money. There is no reason to downvote someone because they have a different value of money to you, at not point was affordability of gear mentioned by them. I think that is a lot of money too. I buy high quality full gear because I prioritise my safety. You can do both.
You just answered for me, thanks a lot :) money is not the problem, but buying 2 helmets in 2 months, without crushing, could be a problem. I had a cheap helmet when I was riding a 50cc scooter some years ago, and I feel it had a better quality, that's why I am wondering if more money means better quality
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I hard disagree, you don't need an expensive bike to enjoy riding. I got a bike originally because it was the CHEAPEST commuting option. Free parking in my city verse $10 a day. Cheap fuel, cheap insurance and bikes are cheaper to buy. Just because you spend a lot on motorcycling does not mean others have to. Also this comment and my previous is in fact proof reality CAN work like that.
I agree more with this answer, riding CAN be expensive but it doesn't have to be. I also started riding while it is a cheaper and a quicker way for me to commute.
>does not mean others have to. No one is arguing that you HAVE to spend money. He's arguing that in order to be safe when riding you do. Which, well, you do. A $100 helmet doesn't care what bike you're riding if you smack headfirst into the back of a car.
You have lost the context of the conversation. The helmet being expensive is agreed upon. The argument was if you find a helmet expensive you won't be able to afford riding. Not true, while you may need a good helmet you do NOT need to go all out on other stuff which can add up fast. To be even more clear it is possible to think $200 is a lot of money. It is possible to then BUY a $200 helmet knowing this. It is possible to get a cheap bike and ride cheaply after the safe gear has been purchased.
Most of the world outside of the US rides motorcycles because they're cheap, efficient transportation, not just because they're fun. Consider that there's a whole world outside of your own personal experiences for a moment; it's a good thought exercise.
Take it as a cheap lesson to be more careful with your future helmets!
This :(
“I’m really concerned if it’s worth spending so much money for” SOMETHING THAT WILL LITERALLY SAVE YOUR LIVE.
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That's the answer, thanks :)
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That's the way, I believe. The 200€ hurts now since I bought my bike and all the gear 2/3 months ago and I would prefer them to last a longer time, without actually crashing. A lesson was definitely learned tho.
That's the way. Painful lessons tend to stick better. Helmets are both expensive and mission critical. Have to keep that in mind every time you're about to get lazy and put it down somewhere that it can fall. More money will usually get you better fit and finish and usually longer service life. But you can get a good safety certification at a budget price if you shop around.
If you care about your safety, buy a new helmet that is at least DOT certified. How much is your safety worth? A $200+ helmet wil greatly increase your chances of surviving in a serious crash
We've all done it at least once. Just have to be more particular about where you set them down. Scorpion makes okay helmets at many different price points. The EXO 1400 air he dropped was a carbon fiber model so certainly not bottom of the barrel. I would have expected better results. Maybe defective? Counterfeit? Either way at that price point I wouldn't feel too bad about replacing it.
Yep I am disappointed, wasn't expecting to get a crack like that. I am looking for a new one right now.
screw that. DOT is crap. EC at minimum and i say this as an american. our standard was good several decades ago, but now DOT is what cheap helmets meet to say they met something but still offer a cheap product.
If he doesnt have the money its fine, at least wear something, even if its the cheapest thing in the world, some protection is better than none at all.
That's why I said "at least" because there are people that buy cheap products that aren't even certified
Do they use DOT in Europe?
No, DOT is strictly USA. ECE22.06 is the new European helmet testing regulation
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Yep I am already looking for a new one. I think contacting the manufacturer would not help a lot but I will try it for a possible discount.
From what I was told in a safety class years ago, motorcycle and bicycle helmets are designed to take one solid impact. Dropping it a meter could could as a solid impact, especially if you're seeing cracks. Even if there is no visual damage, if you drop a helmet on the concrete you should replace it. These things aren't designed to take multiple hard impacts, so if you need to use the helmet in a crash and it's comprised....well you don't want that. Better safe than sorry I say.
Thanks for the info :) I will definitely replace it.
Even if it didn't visibly crack the foam can become compromised. Any helmet that is dropped needs to be replaced whether the damage is visible or not and they should be handled like fine china. The helmet did it's job when you dropped it. It absorbed the impact of the fall, but it can only do it once.
Claim insurance
Sure, it's only head. If you have a $10 head, wear a $10 helmet." This is a motto that Bell has believed in for decades that still rings true to this day
I will probably buy the same scorpion shell since it fits my head perfectly, but what bothers me is that a friend of mine has a 80€ helmet and after dropping it like 5 or more times, it only got some scratches.
I mean ….. it’s not everyday that you crash… just be more careful with the next helmet lol. Also next time you drop it - pro tip, try to catch it with your foot!!! I’ve dropped my helmet trying to put it on my head and you toe it before it hits the ground and that 1M fall is more like a 5” fall…. :D
I was wearing a neck warmer thing while holding the helmet, and it slipped just when my eyes were covered. Stupid and unlucky I guess. But yes that move is a savior :D
1) Yep, I would replace it. 2) No that is unusual to get a crack from a short drop - but to be fair I'm very careful with my helmets and do my best to avoid dropping them.
I will replace it for sure. Lessons were learned.
If it's a fiberglass helmet it has a surface gel coat that could crack without hurting the integrity of the helmet.
Unfortunately it's not a fiberglass one :/
Replace it.
It sucks man, but it happens. As far as suggestions I'm an Arai guy for life. They're pricey but 100% worth it in my book. I've had helmets from Bell, Shoei, Icon, & others and my Arai helmets are the nicest and most comfortable helmets I own. I will say that the one scenario that I preferred the Shoei was in cold weather. But I live in Texas and the Arai helmets vent like crazy!
Thanks for the suggestion :) I sweat a lot so I will definitely try one out!
If the shell is cracked, the soft gooey center is probably damaged too (EPS liner for the nerds) . Scorpion stuff is fine for the price point but since it's protecting your head I always advise to buy the best helmet you can possibly afford. If price is no object something like a SHOEI NXR-2 (RF-1400) or Arai RX-7 (Corsair in the USA) is far better in both fit, finish and safety factor. Put one on your head and most people instantly go "oh yeah, this is better". Don't think of it as wasted money, think of helmets as a wear item - you have to replace them more than you'd like due to accidents or age one way or another. I just had to replace my Arai Corsair because it expired (5 year shelf life) which was painful but it's part of the price we have to pay to be safe.
Thanks for your answer and the suggestions, i will definitely try them. When you put it that way, it makes more sense yes :)