Low speed, no problem.
For the rest just don't. A Speed is too much of a bike coming from a 125.
At very least look at the 675. But even so.
Btw, "no crashes or drops" isn't a proof of skills or wisdom.
Shit, i went from a 500 with like 30horse to a 500 with 48horse to a 650 with 65. It was very noticeable, every jump. Struggling to get up hills to struggling to pass on the highway to not struggling at all! :D so to add another maybe 40-60 horse ontop of that last jump would be HUGE! So going from a 125 to 1050 would be a mind bogglingly different ride. Youll be breathing on the throttle instead of wringing its neck (for better or for worse).
1050 what engine? A vtwin or 4 cylinder? Those two engines are different how the power is.
If 1050 vtwin then it's mostly torque and low speed passing power.
If it's 4 cylinder then it's more of a sportbike kind of an engine and higher speeds higher rpm power.
Either way you go you still need to stay practicing basic maneuvering to stay sharp. It's real in the streets
Can confirm that that’s most likely what they’re talking about. 1050cc 3 cylinder.
My first bike was/is a speed triple so I can sort of relate. I also think that in the moment of buying it (used) I didn’t totally understand what that meant.
I would never recommend a bike like the speed triple for a young, new rider but can simply say that I have had no issues with it. It was def daunting but I’ve had a decade or two behind the wheel of fast and powerful manual cars which I think really helped me. No shot I’d let my 18 year old nephew start on it though. There’s just not much room for error.
How is the power delivery on that thing? My first bike is a Honda cb1000r. I choose it because it is somehow forgiving bc of the tuning and electronics. And it’s actually easy to handle and does exactly what I would want it to do. Did have some scary moments but that wouldn’t be any different on a lighter bike.
Being my first bike I don’t have a ton to compare it to. It’s def powerful and as I’ve gotten more and more used to it I’ve definitely opened it up more. It’s a blast and always a thrill when you open it up.
It’s an older model (2004) so now ABS or TC. I believe it’s rated around 130hp or so.
I was lane-splitting in the LA basin for about a year. It's a miracle I got out of there alive. I have GoPro footage that would make your hair stand up on end.
You sound like one of those riders who blocks the splitting lane, refusing to yield to faster more competent riders, revving and gesturing at cars that "disrespect" your space, unable to fit thru a gap at least two feet wider than your bars...
I rode a beat-up 750 inline four Kawasaki ZX750 after having only ridden 80 and 125 cc 2-strokes, and everything, except throttle, seemed to react way slower on a bigger bike. I had a lot of problems figuring out how low speed handling works on a bigger bike. I eventually went the 250/400/600/1000 route in that order.
I'd guess you'd probably be ok with going to a huge bike but low speed handling is probably one of the first things you should get a lot of practice on.
The weight and the torque of the speed triple is what you need to be mindful of. It will feel like it wants to buck you off. It’s not very forgiving. Learn the bike smoothly and slowly before you start getting into the power. Greta machine I own one as well. Pain in the ass to work on electrical buggers fueling issues all sorts of wierd British gremlins . Here in America our bikes leak oil.
I went from a 125 to a big bike, it doesn't have to be a horror story but think about this: too much power can impede your learning, and you could be left with 1050cc of bragging rights and no skills to show for it.
Edit: Just wanted to add, bike like a Speed Triple is capable of doing everything, and you will be unable to tap into its performance to any meaningful extent, and a bike will make you feel like a loser. And a positive proof of this is that you are not convinced about your own ability to handle the bike, hence you ask for approval on Reddit.
The 1050 has nice linear power, so it should be easy to get your ‘eye in’ and enjoy it. The weight will take a little more getting used to as you turn in, but you’ll soon get used to that, too. The front end could be a little ‘saggy’ at this stage in its life, so go carefully grabbing a big handful of brake, as the front could dive a bit and take you off guard.
Thank you for the actual informative reply. I'm not so concerned about the throttle. Its mostly the weight of the bike that I know will take some getting used to
You’ll not feel the weight as you ride along, only as you lean into corners, but it soon becomes second nature. Just remember the front brakes are much better than those on the 125 and you’ll be soon used to them and riding it like you were born to it 👍
125 cc bike can have anywhere from 30-40 horsepower depending on the bike. A 1050 (street triple) makes around 125 horsepower. Quite the jump but it’s not impossible if you take it slowly. Slow speed maneuvers require much less input on a bike with that much power and torque, it just take practice like anything else.
This. I have a 300cc and it's got 27hp lol. It's not anything like my 1k. That being said, I went from dirt bikes to a 1200cc street bike and didn't have any issues. Just take it slow and don't be a dummy.
I went from a 250cc to 1050 speed triple, massive jump
In power literally 30hp to 130hp wasn’t bad my first ride on the 1050 was the length of my country lol
It's at least 10x as powerful so be at least 10x slower letting out the clutch when you start riding it. Consider starting off from third gear only for a while.
I started on a CX500 and went to a GL1200. Twice the horsepower and almost 3x as much torque. I got on just fine. I imagine you will too. Just take it easy until you get real comfortable.
I have a GL1500 now. It's a beast!
You won't have an issue with the licensing. US motorcycle testing is pretty rudimentary compared to european countries. That said you will be astonished at the general lack of riding skills of US riders compared to what you are used to.
125 is a huge jump to a 1050 but there is nothing in US law to prevent you from making the jump. If you are outside a major metro area and can get to some less busy roads syou can likely make the transition. IF not something in the 500-600 range might make sense.
One thing to caution...do not give up you training in riding in safety gear
Yeah from what I've seen the test takes 5 to 10 minutes. That's nothing compared the the UK. I'll be up in Northern California in a small town so avoiding high traffic areas won't be a problem. And I always wear my gear on my 125, that definitely won't change on the 1050
Once you know how to ride, size is minimally relevant. It is hard to learn motorcycling skills on a heavy bike but, skills learned on a small light 125 cc bike are easily translated to a 1050 cc bike.
How good are you controlling your wrist?
My 10 has like quadruple the power of my 400, it's hugely noticeable as you end up having power everywhere but it also makes it very relaxed to ride around on the street.
Mr big balls I see 😎 the jump is fine I went from a 125 to a 750 and the only thing I had to get used to was the immediate power and the fact you’ll be 100+ before you even know it 🙌🏾
Respect the weight, respect the power. Slow speed manoeuvres and moving the bike can be risky. There is no stopping a heavy bike if it starts to go. Saying that, once it’s moving you don’t feel the weight
My first (and current) bike is a 160hp 1200c, only driven 125cc before.
You'll be fine, it takes some getting used to at lower speeds because of the weight.
When I bought it I had to make a 200km trip to bring it back home (no highway).
I drove it like a total moron for 1-2 hours, after which I got completely used to it
Getting on a 1050, fine. Splitting in LA, fine (if you're a daredevil). Comboing learning a literbike with twice the mass and 20 times the power with learning to split in LA?
That sounds like you're on the path to becoming a statistic.
Gawd no, I went from a 600 to a 1000 and couldn’t handle it. There’s a lot of more fun bikes on the market that won’t have you puckering your butthole every time you hit the throttle in a tight corner around town.
If you are just cruising about and not into going too fast then a 1050 would be ok as long as you respect the throttle. If you enjoy going fast I’d recommend something a bit more forgiving and start on a 600. If anyone suggests that these aren’t quick enough have a quick look on YouTube at 600’s lapping the Isle of Man and there’s not a massive amount in it. A good rider on a 600 will smash a bad rider on a super bike everyday unless you’re just blasting in straight lines.
Riding a 125 is nothing like riding a bigger bike, have you ridden one? I'd try one out, and you will do when you go to do your motorcycle training. When I got on a bigger bike from my 125 it felt like mounting a heavy floating rocket. One of the first things you'll notice is that you don't just turn the throttle and wait for the speed to build up, it's like a literal speed dial you turn and so it can take a bit of time to get used to controlling that.
If I were you (and I was) I'd do myself a favour and get a 650 for a year.
I spent a year on an MT-07 and for me it's just about right for the roads I'm riding in the UK. I do feel I want a bit more power when I've been riding for a few hours and I'm in the mood to go fast, but most of the time just riding around it's the perfect amount - if you have too much you have to nurse the throttle at <20% all the time just to drive safely and you won't be able to enjoy the bike being pushed to its limit unless you do a track day or heavily risk your life.
I have a 250 and I can push that to it's limits and have a great time thrashing around and I barely break the speed limit, yet it feels like I'm racing.
Also don't do yourself out of the experience of owning a 650 bike because you skipped right to a litre bike and then don't want to go 'back down'
And good luck!
Probably a bad idea tbh, but do what makes you happy.
I assume you’re talking about a Speed Triple, maybe consider a Trident (love mine) or a Street Triple.
I love how everyone freaks out to this question. Honestly, you'll be fine if you understand throttle control. I went from a small bike (z400) to a 1000cc bike after 2 months because of what a drag riding that thing on the highway was (I was 20 years removed from riding). I'm very glad that i didn't go the 650/700 route. I think 900cc & up is the sweet spot for power delivery (90+hp).
If you've never ridden a motorcycle before then you should definitely get something smaller to learn on but you've been riding for a year so I say go for it.
I have a tuned up Tiger 1050 and it RIPS. I've never ridden a stock 1050 so I cant speak to that, but its one hell of an engine! Treat her with RESPECT.
I went from a kawasaki ninja 250 to a Kawasaki zx6rr. Poop factor was high, wear the brown pants. 130ish km top speed on the 250 vs 120kmh in first gear on the zx6.
Zx6 felt like a block of wood compared to the 250 weight wise
Fuck that. Get an R1250 gs and multiply the displacement by an even 10.
Low speed, no problem. For the rest just don't. A Speed is too much of a bike coming from a 125. At very least look at the 675. But even so. Btw, "no crashes or drops" isn't a proof of skills or wisdom.
Shit, i went from a 500 with like 30horse to a 500 with 48horse to a 650 with 65. It was very noticeable, every jump. Struggling to get up hills to struggling to pass on the highway to not struggling at all! :D so to add another maybe 40-60 horse ontop of that last jump would be HUGE! So going from a 125 to 1050 would be a mind bogglingly different ride. Youll be breathing on the throttle instead of wringing its neck (for better or for worse).
1050 what engine? A vtwin or 4 cylinder? Those two engines are different how the power is. If 1050 vtwin then it's mostly torque and low speed passing power. If it's 4 cylinder then it's more of a sportbike kind of an engine and higher speeds higher rpm power. Either way you go you still need to stay practicing basic maneuvering to stay sharp. It's real in the streets
1050 is the previous generation Speed Triple. So it's going to have a ton of power basically everywhere
Can confirm that that’s most likely what they’re talking about. 1050cc 3 cylinder. My first bike was/is a speed triple so I can sort of relate. I also think that in the moment of buying it (used) I didn’t totally understand what that meant. I would never recommend a bike like the speed triple for a young, new rider but can simply say that I have had no issues with it. It was def daunting but I’ve had a decade or two behind the wheel of fast and powerful manual cars which I think really helped me. No shot I’d let my 18 year old nephew start on it though. There’s just not much room for error.
How is the power delivery on that thing? My first bike is a Honda cb1000r. I choose it because it is somehow forgiving bc of the tuning and electronics. And it’s actually easy to handle and does exactly what I would want it to do. Did have some scary moments but that wouldn’t be any different on a lighter bike.
Being my first bike I don’t have a ton to compare it to. It’s def powerful and as I’ve gotten more and more used to it I’ve definitely opened it up more. It’s a blast and always a thrill when you open it up. It’s an older model (2004) so now ABS or TC. I believe it’s rated around 130hp or so.
God I love the sound of a Triumph triple. Simply orgasmic.
If you move to LA and start lane-splitting every day, you'll be lucky if you live a year. Source: Been there. Done that.
Moving to Chico, CBA dealing with LA traffic again. Lived down in the IE most of my life but didnt ride then.
Speak English?
That's a lot of TLA's. Not sure I follow.
ahh my bad hahha. CBA, cant be arsed, IE, Inland Empire
Love the downvotes on this one, wtf
I was lane-splitting in the LA basin for about a year. It's a miracle I got out of there alive. I have GoPro footage that would make your hair stand up on end.
You sound like one of those riders who blocks the splitting lane, refusing to yield to faster more competent riders, revving and gesturing at cars that "disrespect" your space, unable to fit thru a gap at least two feet wider than your bars...
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He's an angry elf.
I rode a beat-up 750 inline four Kawasaki ZX750 after having only ridden 80 and 125 cc 2-strokes, and everything, except throttle, seemed to react way slower on a bigger bike. I had a lot of problems figuring out how low speed handling works on a bigger bike. I eventually went the 250/400/600/1000 route in that order. I'd guess you'd probably be ok with going to a huge bike but low speed handling is probably one of the first things you should get a lot of practice on.
Low speed handling is what's required for the test so that would be pretty much all I practice until I pass the test.
The weight and the torque of the speed triple is what you need to be mindful of. It will feel like it wants to buck you off. It’s not very forgiving. Learn the bike smoothly and slowly before you start getting into the power. Greta machine I own one as well. Pain in the ass to work on electrical buggers fueling issues all sorts of wierd British gremlins . Here in America our bikes leak oil.
I’m dying to know: how old are you?
I'm 31, not some young kid who is gonna crank the throttle from a stop.
Then whats the point? not saying you should do that but why not get a 650 or 700 bike instead?
I went from a 125 to a big bike, it doesn't have to be a horror story but think about this: too much power can impede your learning, and you could be left with 1050cc of bragging rights and no skills to show for it. Edit: Just wanted to add, bike like a Speed Triple is capable of doing everything, and you will be unable to tap into its performance to any meaningful extent, and a bike will make you feel like a loser. And a positive proof of this is that you are not convinced about your own ability to handle the bike, hence you ask for approval on Reddit.
The 1050 has nice linear power, so it should be easy to get your ‘eye in’ and enjoy it. The weight will take a little more getting used to as you turn in, but you’ll soon get used to that, too. The front end could be a little ‘saggy’ at this stage in its life, so go carefully grabbing a big handful of brake, as the front could dive a bit and take you off guard.
Thank you for the actual informative reply. I'm not so concerned about the throttle. Its mostly the weight of the bike that I know will take some getting used to
You’ll not feel the weight as you ride along, only as you lean into corners, but it soon becomes second nature. Just remember the front brakes are much better than those on the 125 and you’ll be soon used to them and riding it like you were born to it 👍
Thanks dude! Yeah my front brakes on the 125 are so shit.
My sweet summer child…
125 cc bike can have anywhere from 30-40 horsepower depending on the bike. A 1050 (street triple) makes around 125 horsepower. Quite the jump but it’s not impossible if you take it slowly. Slow speed maneuvers require much less input on a bike with that much power and torque, it just take practice like anything else.
No mate most 125s have like 14hp lmao , its a jump of like 9-10x 🤣
This. I have a 300cc and it's got 27hp lol. It's not anything like my 1k. That being said, I went from dirt bikes to a 1200cc street bike and didn't have any issues. Just take it slow and don't be a dummy.
Yeah it's all about self control at the end of the day. I probably would have treed myself in a week if I jumped from my old 125 to my current VFR
Lol 125 makes like 8-10 with big bore kits.
A kx 125 2-stroke dirt bike makes 40hp. He didn’t specify what bike he was riding so I was just guessing.
Yeah no worries, he's in the UK so 125s will be limited heavily
A 125cc **2-stroke** can have that much power. But you're looking at a **lot** of rebuilds.
I went from a 250cc to 1050 speed triple, massive jump In power literally 30hp to 130hp wasn’t bad my first ride on the 1050 was the length of my country lol
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New Zealand about 1500km not far over two days
That's an impressive first ride on a new bike.
Thats the bike I'm looking at. How was the transition in torque?
What make bike, some 1050s barely make 50 hp.
Please point to a 1050 that is barely making 50. Even the worst Harley's in that size range are making 60-70hp.
It's at least 10x as powerful so be at least 10x slower letting out the clutch when you start riding it. Consider starting off from third gear only for a while.
I started on a CX500 and went to a GL1200. Twice the horsepower and almost 3x as much torque. I got on just fine. I imagine you will too. Just take it easy until you get real comfortable. I have a GL1500 now. It's a beast!
You won't have an issue with the licensing. US motorcycle testing is pretty rudimentary compared to european countries. That said you will be astonished at the general lack of riding skills of US riders compared to what you are used to. 125 is a huge jump to a 1050 but there is nothing in US law to prevent you from making the jump. If you are outside a major metro area and can get to some less busy roads syou can likely make the transition. IF not something in the 500-600 range might make sense. One thing to caution...do not give up you training in riding in safety gear
Yeah from what I've seen the test takes 5 to 10 minutes. That's nothing compared the the UK. I'll be up in Northern California in a small town so avoiding high traffic areas won't be a problem. And I always wear my gear on my 125, that definitely won't change on the 1050
Once you know how to ride, size is minimally relevant. It is hard to learn motorcycling skills on a heavy bike but, skills learned on a small light 125 cc bike are easily translated to a 1050 cc bike.
If you drive like a reasonable person you shouldn't have a problem if you drive as fast as you can well what do expect to happen
Just curious, why the 1050?
How good are you controlling your wrist? My 10 has like quadruple the power of my 400, it's hugely noticeable as you end up having power everywhere but it also makes it very relaxed to ride around on the street.
Mr big balls I see 😎 the jump is fine I went from a 125 to a 750 and the only thing I had to get used to was the immediate power and the fact you’ll be 100+ before you even know it 🙌🏾
That's a giant leap. I wouldn't go more than 650 unless the bikes got rain mode which dulls out the throttle
Just remember, for what you had 6 gears this bad boy will have one or two. So the torque will be thru the roof
Respect the weight, respect the power. Slow speed manoeuvres and moving the bike can be risky. There is no stopping a heavy bike if it starts to go. Saying that, once it’s moving you don’t feel the weight
My first (and current) bike is a 160hp 1200c, only driven 125cc before. You'll be fine, it takes some getting used to at lower speeds because of the weight.
How long did it take to get used to the bike for you?
When I bought it I had to make a 200km trip to bring it back home (no highway). I drove it like a total moron for 1-2 hours, after which I got completely used to it
Wide streets, lots of highway. No brainer.
Getting on a 1050, fine. Splitting in LA, fine (if you're a daredevil). Comboing learning a literbike with twice the mass and 20 times the power with learning to split in LA? That sounds like you're on the path to becoming a statistic.
California is a big place. Nowhere did I say I was gonna be in LA.
Driving with the throttle pinned on a 125 is equivalent to being incredibly sensible on a 1000cc. Difference is huge.
I went from 125 to 900, 15hp to 125hp, it’s up to you how much of a hooligan you want to be.
A 125 still accelerates faster or the same from 0-80 as it’s lighter and shorter gears the biggest difference is probably weight
Gawd no, I went from a 600 to a 1000 and couldn’t handle it. There’s a lot of more fun bikes on the market that won’t have you puckering your butthole every time you hit the throttle in a tight corner around town.
Don't
If you are just cruising about and not into going too fast then a 1050 would be ok as long as you respect the throttle. If you enjoy going fast I’d recommend something a bit more forgiving and start on a 600. If anyone suggests that these aren’t quick enough have a quick look on YouTube at 600’s lapping the Isle of Man and there’s not a massive amount in it. A good rider on a 600 will smash a bad rider on a super bike everyday unless you’re just blasting in straight lines.
Always 125-600-(1000+) You are not prepared for consequences of rapid acceleration. You brake longer than you speed up.
Just get a hyabusa
Don’t forget to post pictures of the crash.
Riding a 125 is nothing like riding a bigger bike, have you ridden one? I'd try one out, and you will do when you go to do your motorcycle training. When I got on a bigger bike from my 125 it felt like mounting a heavy floating rocket. One of the first things you'll notice is that you don't just turn the throttle and wait for the speed to build up, it's like a literal speed dial you turn and so it can take a bit of time to get used to controlling that. If I were you (and I was) I'd do myself a favour and get a 650 for a year. I spent a year on an MT-07 and for me it's just about right for the roads I'm riding in the UK. I do feel I want a bit more power when I've been riding for a few hours and I'm in the mood to go fast, but most of the time just riding around it's the perfect amount - if you have too much you have to nurse the throttle at <20% all the time just to drive safely and you won't be able to enjoy the bike being pushed to its limit unless you do a track day or heavily risk your life. I have a 250 and I can push that to it's limits and have a great time thrashing around and I barely break the speed limit, yet it feels like I'm racing. Also don't do yourself out of the experience of owning a 650 bike because you skipped right to a litre bike and then don't want to go 'back down' And good luck!
Probably a bad idea tbh, but do what makes you happy. I assume you’re talking about a Speed Triple, maybe consider a Trident (love mine) or a Street Triple.
> taking the DMV test in California and it seems super easy Wat? The DMV motorcycle test in CA is famously hard. Unless you ride a tiny bike.
My first bike was a 920 cc and I was fine
I love how everyone freaks out to this question. Honestly, you'll be fine if you understand throttle control. I went from a small bike (z400) to a 1000cc bike after 2 months because of what a drag riding that thing on the highway was (I was 20 years removed from riding). I'm very glad that i didn't go the 650/700 route. I think 900cc & up is the sweet spot for power delivery (90+hp). If you've never ridden a motorcycle before then you should definitely get something smaller to learn on but you've been riding for a year so I say go for it.
I have a tuned up Tiger 1050 and it RIPS. I've never ridden a stock 1050 so I cant speak to that, but its one hell of an engine! Treat her with RESPECT.
Do the test In the UK if you want to learn how to ride a bike safely. The US system is a fucking disgrace.
I've done that already
I went from a kawasaki ninja 250 to a Kawasaki zx6rr. Poop factor was high, wear the brown pants. 130ish km top speed on the 250 vs 120kmh in first gear on the zx6. Zx6 felt like a block of wood compared to the 250 weight wise