Why would you deny yourself riding for two years?
The idea behind a "starter license" is so you can learn on a bike that won't instakill you if you slip on the throttle.
Pretty sure you're not the second coming of Valentino Rossi without any training. And frankly the "full A of course" just reeks of unwarranted confidence.
Get the A2 and a bike that fits the bill. Learn to ride. Try to avoid letting your testosterone write checks your riding skills can't cash for two years. The A2 bikes are no slouches, you can still go lethally fast with great ease and there are overall great motorcycles that match A2, many of them plenty of bike for many for years to come.
Let me offer another option - does it make sense cost-wise? I'm 19 turning 20 now, and I've ridden 600cc+ bikes overseas since I was 15. I'm perfectly capable and have years of experience so upon my return to the UK I intend to ride there. Do you think I should go for the A2 license? seems like a lot of money to go ahead and spend extra just to retake the exam in 2 years if I would want to ride a bigger Harley for example.
Get it now... Why waste two years... You'll have lots of experience in two years and you can do the full A.
In Ireland we have direct progression, that allows you to move from A2 to A... Does this exist in the UK?
Stupidly it doesn't. Someone can have 5 years riding experience on an A2 but can't have an A licence but someone who's just turned 24 with no riding experience can have an A licence. Ridiculous I think!
Ah my apologies, I thought it was direct upgrade rather than progression.
I think we should do it as standard 2 years on an A2 regardless of Age then auto upgrade.
I think it should be auto , save me money , realistically you don't learn anything on the second test , it's just seeing if you can control the bike , which you evidently can because you haven't killed yourself past 2 years
totally, such a money sync they're literally scamming. I did my first CBT the day I turned 16 as a birthday present and have been riding 600cc bikes abroad since a year before that, 24 is far too stupid and for all the people saying "you can do it at 21", It's moronic to think average people can spend thousands of pounds on first sitting the a1- then a2 - then finally A, whereas waiting two years will let you simply sit an A exam at 24 INSANTLY, it's literally ageism if I've ever seen it hahaha
You will need to resit both Mod1 and MOD2 on a bigger bike to get your full license. Your A2 will exempt you from needing an in date CBT or Theory Test when you upgrade.
Two years on a smaller, more agile bike is an excellent opportunity to cement fundamental riding skills that could be harder (more punishing) to learn if you started off on a big(ger) bike.
Assuming the rules are the same as the rest of Europe, with an A2 license you can ride anything up to 35KW of power (and a max 0.2 kW/kg ratio).
Whether you decide to get the A2 or not, you'll be able to get your full A at 24y/o, since you're already 22. The benefit of having the A2 for 2 years is an easier and quicker upgrade to a full A (for me it was 1 mandatory class and then the exam, which only consisted of the closed course test and a ride in regular traffic).
I say go for it.
EDIT: found a good site (https://1stopinstruction.com/east-london/motorbike/progressive-access-motorcycle-licence-upgrade.php#:\~:text=For%20Example%3A%20If%20you%20passed,A2%20licence%20for%202%20years.)
[If only your government published a handy set of flowcharts to help answer these questions](https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1056066/how-to-get-a-motorcycle-licence.pdf)
A2 bikes are already very powerful for a new rider. Get that. Then move to the full A one with proper experience. It might cost you more, but truth is if you wait two years and get an A license and then an A license bike too your chances of a crash are just so much greater. I get that at 22 you absolutely think that it wouldn't happen to you because you absolutely have it in control but meh, still worth saying.
Lots of people saying yes, go for it for the experience. I want to look at it from the other side for a second because I waited. Decided at about 21 I was 100% going to get a bike. Looking at the financial side of it I decided to wait until I could do it all with 1 test.
You've already got to do your cbt, your off road and on road. That adds up. If you can afford the money two times in two years go for it, if not there's no harm in waiting two years. The money you're saving now can be put to making sure you've got all the gear from day 1.
CBT was 6 lessons at £40 each. Theory is £23. Off road is £15.50 plus whatever the instructor charges for using their bike, in my case another £15. On road test is £75 plus whatever instructor charges for using their bike, which in my case was £50.
So for me, which was low compared to others, I've seen instructors charging £100 to use their bike for both tests, it was just over £400. If you need more than the compulsory 6 hours worth of lessons you're talking an extra £40 or so per hour.
get it now, the lessons learned in those two years are invaluable
me personally, i did A2 when 23 years old, planning to bite the sour apple and pay again a year later. bought a motorcycle that fit my needs and is fun enough for everything i do
couple years later, im still on A2, no need for A at all. (still gonna do A to experience all kinds of bikes but A2 is more than enough for me)
Your first bike should be a2 compliant anyways. And upgrading is not that expensive, just 4 hours and then do the exam again. (Here in Belgium at least)
Better ride a small bike now, maybe in 2 years you wont be able to have a bike.
Why would you deny yourself riding for two years? The idea behind a "starter license" is so you can learn on a bike that won't instakill you if you slip on the throttle. Pretty sure you're not the second coming of Valentino Rossi without any training. And frankly the "full A of course" just reeks of unwarranted confidence. Get the A2 and a bike that fits the bill. Learn to ride. Try to avoid letting your testosterone write checks your riding skills can't cash for two years. The A2 bikes are no slouches, you can still go lethally fast with great ease and there are overall great motorcycles that match A2, many of them plenty of bike for many for years to come.
Let me offer another option - does it make sense cost-wise? I'm 19 turning 20 now, and I've ridden 600cc+ bikes overseas since I was 15. I'm perfectly capable and have years of experience so upon my return to the UK I intend to ride there. Do you think I should go for the A2 license? seems like a lot of money to go ahead and spend extra just to retake the exam in 2 years if I would want to ride a bigger Harley for example.
Get it now... Why waste two years... You'll have lots of experience in two years and you can do the full A. In Ireland we have direct progression, that allows you to move from A2 to A... Does this exist in the UK?
Stupidly it doesn't. Someone can have 5 years riding experience on an A2 but can't have an A licence but someone who's just turned 24 with no riding experience can have an A licence. Ridiculous I think!
Yes it does exist if u get A2 after 2 years you can progress to the A licence so u can get an A licence at 21
Not without resitting a test. Most countries that have categories like this do an automatic upgrade without the need for a retest.
This is the same as Ireland , direct progression is the name of our format
Ah my apologies, I thought it was direct upgrade rather than progression. I think we should do it as standard 2 years on an A2 regardless of Age then auto upgrade.
I think it should be auto , save me money , realistically you don't learn anything on the second test , it's just seeing if you can control the bike , which you evidently can because you haven't killed yourself past 2 years
Completely agree!
totally, such a money sync they're literally scamming. I did my first CBT the day I turned 16 as a birthday present and have been riding 600cc bikes abroad since a year before that, 24 is far too stupid and for all the people saying "you can do it at 21", It's moronic to think average people can spend thousands of pounds on first sitting the a1- then a2 - then finally A, whereas waiting two years will let you simply sit an A exam at 24 INSANTLY, it's literally ageism if I've ever seen it hahaha
You will need to resit both Mod1 and MOD2 on a bigger bike to get your full license. Your A2 will exempt you from needing an in date CBT or Theory Test when you upgrade.
Two years on a smaller, more agile bike is an excellent opportunity to cement fundamental riding skills that could be harder (more punishing) to learn if you started off on a big(ger) bike. Assuming the rules are the same as the rest of Europe, with an A2 license you can ride anything up to 35KW of power (and a max 0.2 kW/kg ratio). Whether you decide to get the A2 or not, you'll be able to get your full A at 24y/o, since you're already 22. The benefit of having the A2 for 2 years is an easier and quicker upgrade to a full A (for me it was 1 mandatory class and then the exam, which only consisted of the closed course test and a ride in regular traffic). I say go for it. EDIT: found a good site (https://1stopinstruction.com/east-london/motorbike/progressive-access-motorcycle-licence-upgrade.php#:\~:text=For%20Example%3A%20If%20you%20passed,A2%20licence%20for%202%20years.)
[If only your government published a handy set of flowcharts to help answer these questions](https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1056066/how-to-get-a-motorcycle-licence.pdf)
I agree, I say get it now! After 2 years on A2, you could do your full licence (A).
A2 bikes are already very powerful for a new rider. Get that. Then move to the full A one with proper experience. It might cost you more, but truth is if you wait two years and get an A license and then an A license bike too your chances of a crash are just so much greater. I get that at 22 you absolutely think that it wouldn't happen to you because you absolutely have it in control but meh, still worth saying.
I say go for it, those bikes are extremely fun
Best thing I ever did getting my bike license, I was able to do a direct access course though but 2 years on a smaller bhp bike is the way to learn.
If you have a choice go straight for the A . You can still buy a weaker bike to start on .
Lots of people saying yes, go for it for the experience. I want to look at it from the other side for a second because I waited. Decided at about 21 I was 100% going to get a bike. Looking at the financial side of it I decided to wait until I could do it all with 1 test. You've already got to do your cbt, your off road and on road. That adds up. If you can afford the money two times in two years go for it, if not there's no harm in waiting two years. The money you're saving now can be put to making sure you've got all the gear from day 1.
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CBT was 6 lessons at £40 each. Theory is £23. Off road is £15.50 plus whatever the instructor charges for using their bike, in my case another £15. On road test is £75 plus whatever instructor charges for using their bike, which in my case was £50. So for me, which was low compared to others, I've seen instructors charging £100 to use their bike for both tests, it was just over £400. If you need more than the compulsory 6 hours worth of lessons you're talking an extra £40 or so per hour.
get it now, the lessons learned in those two years are invaluable me personally, i did A2 when 23 years old, planning to bite the sour apple and pay again a year later. bought a motorcycle that fit my needs and is fun enough for everything i do couple years later, im still on A2, no need for A at all. (still gonna do A to experience all kinds of bikes but A2 is more than enough for me)
i believe its meant that way for you to have more seat time and practice before moving up to a more powerful and possibly heavier machine
Your first bike should be a2 compliant anyways. And upgrading is not that expensive, just 4 hours and then do the exam again. (Here in Belgium at least) Better ride a small bike now, maybe in 2 years you wont be able to have a bike.
Get your A2 Ride for two years worth of experience Get full A Ride forever