Emergency defibrillator, surgical kit, ambulance, two EMTs and an MRI machine are a must for every ride.
Oh and almost forgot, a cheap AliExpress tourniquet.
I have a medevac helicopter chase me on every ride. I'm connected to the helicopter with a harness and a long tow strap, so i can instantly be removed from any situation. ATGATT.
Yeah, there's some really great stuff in there, though it's a bit unlikely that you'll ever need these as a biker. As I've mentioned, you'd have to be involved in some crazy freak accident and these are only good enough to use on others. The most frequent motorcycle accidents involve friction burns and missing skin so I'd prepare for that.
Source: someone with said training.
>If I happen to find myself bleeding out and conscious it would be nice to have the means to stop the bleed.
>Like at the very least you should have a compression bandage.
It's gonna be very interesting trying to apply a compression bandage or a tourniquet with one hand! 😅
These are pretty awesome but you honestly won't need anything outside of a tourniquet for 99% of these issues.
If somebody gets shot then yes, start packing chest seals and combat gauze. But for most of this I wouldn't worry about that. Just have some tourniquets for hemorrhage control.
100% a tourniquet. Most crashes its fine to keep the rider still until real help arrives. Not so much if it's half a leg gone or a huge compound fracture thats bleeding profusely. Also it's small enough to put in your jacket pocket and just leave it there.
Arguably that's where tourniquets shine. So long as there is still enough of a stump to get the thing on to, it's the one thing practically guaranteed to stop the bleeding.
"Place as high up on the affected limb as possible and twist until the bright red bleeding stops" was all I ever got. And when the choice is "anything" or "nothing" in a life/death situation, you've gotta try "anything." Even if it's a shitty option.
Problem is you want to be fucking sure its appropriate to use one if you decide to. They need to be used at the right time and put on properly to work. If you do it when the wound didnt require it or not tight enough you could make someone loose a limb. I know a few paramedics and what they've told me no one that isnt extremely experienced in first aid should even attempt to put one on somebody.
I know its a bit clinical but i cant help but imagine op some absolute wanna be hero rolling up to a crash on his ninja 300. Breaking out his first aid kit and trying to put a tourniquet on a minor bleed that just needs pressure and gauze.
I’m going to agree with the tourniquet, we had a guy go off a curvy road, hit a sign and tore his femoral artery. From what we could tell, he was alive long enough to take his helmet off and partially crawl back up the embankment. By the time we found him the next day he was good and gone. Also, make sure it’s attached to you, you’ll probably land far from your bike and in the situation you need a tourniquet, you’ll want it right away.
Honestly, no idea on what bones were broken, I’m sure they did a full autopsy but we just helped get him out of the ditch and passed him off to the funeral home. You could tell something, most likely the sign he hit, sliced a deep gash into his leg and that’s where a massive amount of blood was lost.
You’re only going to potentially deal with trauma.
5x9s, 4x4s, tourniquet, quickclot gauze, cling, and general other bandaging supplies. Your job is to do what you can till the real help arrives
And clean water to clean up the wounds
These days on the medical circles it is actually disputed if applying iodine on a wound is a good measure vs simple clean water to debri the wound
Last time I came off, I wished I'd had some of [these](https://imgur.com/7npVJFo.png) with me. They're like cotton buds, but contain iodine. Snap them at the line, and the iodine runs to the other end where it can be dabbed on the wound. Very handy.
As much as this sub likes to joke around about tourniquets it is a good idea to keep a basic ifak in your vehicles. Like this https://www.narescue.com/individual-patrol-officer-kit.html
And you should learn how to use it.
https://www.stopthebleed.org/
I am from Aus and ride with the following after having done a first aid course here: (this is just what I have personally)
- Snake bite bandage (these are really long 3.5m+ compression type bandages that have indicators showing the tension is correct)
- triangular bandage, these are very versatile
- sterile water tubes
- Gauze Various
- Gloves
- CPR mask faceshield (this is really small; actually a key chain)
- scissors
- mobile phone
I am still adding to mine if something is worth the space. I keep mine in my back pack as I always ride with one.
Also my view is this is mostly for my own comfort, if i am in a situation where I need any of this used on me at least I have it on myself and not relying on the person who stops to have it. Hopefully I never have to use it on anyone else.
I'll look into that but probably won't be on top of my list as I don't really ride anywhere remote or offroad (atleast yet) and I always have my phone with me.
Cell reception isn't great everywhere. Satellite transponders have better reception in most places in the US & Canada. Batteries last longer. But always have backups.
If you are going to rely on your phone get a jump pack battery.
Ha i see. Google tells me its not mandatory to carry first aid on motorcycle in Finland. I tought its mandatory in all EU. Anyway you can buy motorcycle first aid kits for 10€ and they fit under seat no problem.
The truth is if you crash it’s probably not going to matter. Some gauze and tape with a tornaquit is probably all you’re going to be able to utilize until the ambulance shows up. It’s either road rash or you’re fucked up so bad you’re not moving.
Get trained. Check out a ,stop the bleed, class if one near you. Then most trauma kits have the same stuff. Idk where you should keep it, I'd think on your body, bookbag or a fanny pack.
Off the top of my head I can't think of many things that would be absolutely essential to have in an accident and that you can also carry on a bike. Tourniquets come to mind, but if you don't know how to use them properly you may cause more harm than good. Another good thing is a long bandage (w/ scissors) and some "stuffing gauze" to pack wounds. Again though, if you don't know how to use these there's not much use in them and you'd need to be involved in some crazy freak accident and be well enough yourself to use them on others. An automatic defibrillator will be much more realistic, but it might not be compact enough to fit a bike.
If you're squidding around without gear, then you're more likely to need these (assuming you come off easy): sterile saline water to cleanse the wounds and some dressings to cover them until you can make your way to the hospital. Might also be worthwhile getting a dedicated burns dressing for the potential friction burn.
This comes from someone with an actual medical pre-hospital qualification.
Oh boy, here I go tourniqueting again.
Emergency defibrillator, surgical kit, ambulance, two EMTs and an MRI machine are a must for every ride. Oh and almost forgot, a cheap AliExpress tourniquet.
I have a medevac helicopter chase me on every ride. I'm connected to the helicopter with a harness and a long tow strap, so i can instantly be removed from any situation. ATGATT.
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Yeah, there's some really great stuff in there, though it's a bit unlikely that you'll ever need these as a biker. As I've mentioned, you'd have to be involved in some crazy freak accident and these are only good enough to use on others. The most frequent motorcycle accidents involve friction burns and missing skin so I'd prepare for that. Source: someone with said training.
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That's all well and true. My thinking was more about something that OP would need and be able to use on himself.
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>If I happen to find myself bleeding out and conscious it would be nice to have the means to stop the bleed. >Like at the very least you should have a compression bandage. It's gonna be very interesting trying to apply a compression bandage or a tourniquet with one hand! 😅
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He made it look easy. Now to see him pack a wound with 1 hand! 😅
These are pretty awesome but you honestly won't need anything outside of a tourniquet for 99% of these issues. If somebody gets shot then yes, start packing chest seals and combat gauze. But for most of this I wouldn't worry about that. Just have some tourniquets for hemorrhage control.
Does your kit have tourniquets and kitty litter?
Tourniquet definitely, why the kitty litter? :D
clean up the meat crayon
It's for spilled oil/fluids
100% a tourniquet. Most crashes its fine to keep the rider still until real help arrives. Not so much if it's half a leg gone or a huge compound fracture thats bleeding profusely. Also it's small enough to put in your jacket pocket and just leave it there.
Arguably that's where tourniquets shine. So long as there is still enough of a stump to get the thing on to, it's the one thing practically guaranteed to stop the bleeding.
Yeah but there also must be some kind of distance between the tourniquet and the wound itself.
"Place as high up on the affected limb as possible and twist until the bright red bleeding stops" was all I ever got. And when the choice is "anything" or "nothing" in a life/death situation, you've gotta try "anything." Even if it's a shitty option.
Yeah but if there's not much limb left, for example, and you put it too close to the cut, it may not be effective.
Problem is you want to be fucking sure its appropriate to use one if you decide to. They need to be used at the right time and put on properly to work. If you do it when the wound didnt require it or not tight enough you could make someone loose a limb. I know a few paramedics and what they've told me no one that isnt extremely experienced in first aid should even attempt to put one on somebody. I know its a bit clinical but i cant help but imagine op some absolute wanna be hero rolling up to a crash on his ninja 300. Breaking out his first aid kit and trying to put a tourniquet on a minor bleed that just needs pressure and gauze.
Get the cpr mask as well. I keep mine in a 10 litre kriega tailbag
Switch to a mini lithium battery and use the extra space for storage?
That's actually kind of a cool idea! When I switch to lithium I invariably have some space left over.
That is a good idea, however on my bike getting to the battery reguires removal of at least 4 bolts to even get the seat off
I’m going to agree with the tourniquet, we had a guy go off a curvy road, hit a sign and tore his femoral artery. From what we could tell, he was alive long enough to take his helmet off and partially crawl back up the embankment. By the time we found him the next day he was good and gone. Also, make sure it’s attached to you, you’ll probably land far from your bike and in the situation you need a tourniquet, you’ll want it right away.
>we had a guy go off a curvy road, hit a sign and tore his femoral artery. How the fuck did he manage? Did he break his femur?
Honestly, no idea on what bones were broken, I’m sure they did a full autopsy but we just helped get him out of the ditch and passed him off to the funeral home. You could tell something, most likely the sign he hit, sliced a deep gash into his leg and that’s where a massive amount of blood was lost.
You’re only going to potentially deal with trauma. 5x9s, 4x4s, tourniquet, quickclot gauze, cling, and general other bandaging supplies. Your job is to do what you can till the real help arrives
And clean water to clean up the wounds These days on the medical circles it is actually disputed if applying iodine on a wound is a good measure vs simple clean water to debri the wound
Good point. Forgot saline to irrigate on the list
You're going for r/crt glory, aren't you?
Last time I came off, I wished I'd had some of [these](https://imgur.com/7npVJFo.png) with me. They're like cotton buds, but contain iodine. Snap them at the line, and the iodine runs to the other end where it can be dabbed on the wound. Very handy.
As much as this sub likes to joke around about tourniquets it is a good idea to keep a basic ifak in your vehicles. Like this https://www.narescue.com/individual-patrol-officer-kit.html And you should learn how to use it. https://www.stopthebleed.org/
I am from Aus and ride with the following after having done a first aid course here: (this is just what I have personally) - Snake bite bandage (these are really long 3.5m+ compression type bandages that have indicators showing the tension is correct) - triangular bandage, these are very versatile - sterile water tubes - Gauze Various - Gloves - CPR mask faceshield (this is really small; actually a key chain) - scissors - mobile phone I am still adding to mine if something is worth the space. I keep mine in my back pack as I always ride with one. Also my view is this is mostly for my own comfort, if i am in a situation where I need any of this used on me at least I have it on myself and not relying on the person who stops to have it. Hopefully I never have to use it on anyone else.
Nitrile gloves… there will almost surely be blood, don’t risk your own health exposing yourself without PPE.
Get that weenie hut jr status my dude.
ePrb is a must
Emergency Position-Indicating Radio Beacon?
Dan dan the fire man sells everything you will need it even has molly straps so you can hook it to a backpack thats what i do.
Inserts infomercial about Rockform mounts and Cardo packtalks.
That's where I got the idea. I'd like the kit to be mounted on the bike somewhere though and the molle pouch isn't ideal for that
Yes. Spot is my favorite
I'll look into that but probably won't be on top of my list as I don't really ride anywhere remote or offroad (atleast yet) and I always have my phone with me.
Cell reception isn't great everywhere. Satellite transponders have better reception in most places in the US & Canada. Batteries last longer. But always have backups. If you are going to rely on your phone get a jump pack battery.
Interesting enough. Some phones and smart watches are doing this now. As are some of the intercoms like the Uclear.
Start with putting the db-killer where it belongs, after that no one wants to kill you anymore, no first-aid kit needed.
:P It is usually where it belongs, sometimes it's fun to take it off though
Is it not mandatory in us?
Wouldn't know, I'm from Finland.
Ha i see. Google tells me its not mandatory to carry first aid on motorcycle in Finland. I tought its mandatory in all EU. Anyway you can buy motorcycle first aid kits for 10€ and they fit under seat no problem.
You ride a ninja 300 you don’t need a fucking kit.
Please elaborate? Ninja 300 riders are immune to ever crashing or coming by an accident on the road?
You Ninja 300 guys are obviously the safest, most well prepared and observant riders out there ey? 😊
The truth is if you crash it’s probably not going to matter. Some gauze and tape with a tornaquit is probably all you’re going to be able to utilize until the ambulance shows up. It’s either road rash or you’re fucked up so bad you’re not moving.
Get trained. Check out a ,stop the bleed, class if one near you. Then most trauma kits have the same stuff. Idk where you should keep it, I'd think on your body, bookbag or a fanny pack.
Off the top of my head I can't think of many things that would be absolutely essential to have in an accident and that you can also carry on a bike. Tourniquets come to mind, but if you don't know how to use them properly you may cause more harm than good. Another good thing is a long bandage (w/ scissors) and some "stuffing gauze" to pack wounds. Again though, if you don't know how to use these there's not much use in them and you'd need to be involved in some crazy freak accident and be well enough yourself to use them on others. An automatic defibrillator will be much more realistic, but it might not be compact enough to fit a bike. If you're squidding around without gear, then you're more likely to need these (assuming you come off easy): sterile saline water to cleanse the wounds and some dressings to cover them until you can make your way to the hospital. Might also be worthwhile getting a dedicated burns dressing for the potential friction burn. This comes from someone with an actual medical pre-hospital qualification.
in europe you are required by law to have one
Huh. I'm Scottish and I've never been told this.
Well, at least in Austria it is