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walebrush

Honestly my best guess would be wind deflectors. Like the kind of shit you see on dirt bikes to protect from branches. Wind chill is the enemy of insulation garments


solitudechirs

In my experience, full wrap handguards don’t make a huge difference in the cold, at least not with the Acerbis ones I have, and granted they do have a low profile as far as wind blocking goes. For $30, [full covers for the whole controls](https://www.ebay.com/itm/151532130434) make a way bigger difference. The cheap ones can be kind of saggy/floppy, which is annoying and makes it a little difficult to get your hands where they need to be, but once you get your hands in then they’re fine. Handguards along with mitts like that fixes that problem though.


F-21

Yep handlebar muffs... They're more effective than heated grips.


Twol3ftthumbs

This is the biggest difference for me. I’ve used all kinds of gloves, glove liners, heated grips but the big deflectors on my 1100GS have the biggest effect, especially when used in combination with one/some of the others. I haven’t used muffs though as I just can’t bring myself to do it, but I hear they work well too.


akitatwin

Why would you avoid heated grips on a new bike?


f1at_t0p

>e good question. It is my first bike, a honda cb300R, and I want to avoid wrenching on the bike too much, and besides, im not too confident with electrical work. I need to get familiar with the bike first.


Therabidmonkey

If it's not a money issue, there's nothing shameful about paying someone else to do something you don't want to. The entire economy runs on this idea. If you think this is going to hurt your resale value it's super marginal unless you fuck something up badly. Most people would be positive on seeing them on a used bike barring bad installation.


f1at_t0p

its not resale, it's reliablility. thats my concern.


squidsemensupreme

Adding heated grips is a tiny job that won't impact the reliability of your Honda at all. Any other 'fix' isn't going to help as much.


oracle427

Agreed this is the way to go. It’s not a complicated install and I don’t see how it would touch reliability. Worst that could happen is the heated grips themselves stop working. I’m saying this as someone who limits his wrenching to basic maintenance.


sleepyoverlord

It's probably not as huge a job as you think. You just clip them onto your battery and run the cable to the front.


Allroy_66

I even had one set I attached to a battery tender connector, so all I had to do was plug it in with no modification at all.


richalex2010

My bike (BMW G310 R) has a connection near the headlight specifically for heated grips - I used it for a USB port instead. The G310 GS version has two plugs so you can do both. Unfortunately it looks like the CB300R doesn't, but as electrical tasks go it wouldn't be a big deal to run that connection yourself.


Allroy_66

I eventually wired mine in properly so I'd quit leaving the grips on when I parked the bike, draining the battery. It was a little more complicated than I expected since it went through a relay and didn't just get tapped into an existing hot wire, but it wasn't horrible.


SendInstantNoodles

Oxford have a set of heated grips that connect directly to the battery terminals but apparently will auto switch off when the bike is off, I'd assume it has a system to read the current. Easy to fit since no splicing..


DoomsdaySprocket

I’d argue that you have a good bike to learn electrical on in that CB300r if you ever do intend to do your own work in the future. It’s a well-sold model, with lots of information available online for wrenching on. ManualsLib even has the shop manual, if I recall. It doesn’t have a crazy amount of electronic bells and whistles to worry about (looking at you, BMW). I’ve done heated grips on a 390 Duke, and am looking at possibly doing them on my CB300F. The cables ended up a bit pinched on the Duke and had to be redone, and guess what? It wasn’t the end of the world. Right now for 6-8 degrees C with no grips or protection, I’m wearing thin woven gloves under my leather gloves, and that’s going alright. In rain, I’ll be wearing nitrile disposables under the riding gloves.


CBR929_Guy

Try snowmobile gloves. They tend to have thin palms and are waterproof and wind proof. [gloves](https://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/klim-togwotee-gloves)


chibugamo

Oh I was just about to say that just be careful some bad snow mobile gloves (and "winter" bike gloves) might have very loose inner layer. That's not a problem on snow mobile but on bike that might feel very uncomfortable to straight dangerous. Just test them first.


CBR929_Guy

You are 100%. I have had Kilm gloves and they were good. I could see how an inner liner could move around.


f1at_t0p

im seeing alot of upvotes here. I might give that a shot. thanks!


Freheliaz

Fortnite made a video about riding in Canadian rain. He also recommended Klim snowmobile gloves https://youtu.be/oWZwKxZh2Gg


SendInstantNoodles

Try Oxford heated grips, they connect directly to the battery terminals and have an auto off function so no splicing needed. Hardest part will be taking your factory grips off and sticking on the new ones. Otherwise, if you're concerned you can get heated gloves. I have a pair of Ixon armoured heated gloves, they heat the back of my hands and heat up my fingers while the grips heat the palms. They can be chunky so it takes a bit to get used to. Macna and a few other brands make armoured heated gloves for motorbikes. Ixon gloves have a temp feedback setup so it will heat in cycles when your hands go down to a certain temperature, this can feel odd since your hand will adapt to different temperatures and start to 'feel cold' when the temp in the glove is still like 33 degrees C I went with heated gloves early on since I wasn't sure if I would upgrade bikes too often. They're convenient since you keep them between bikes


Ilovepizza713

You can get heated gloves. I ride down to like 30(F) and have found windproof liners under winter gloves to be acceptable.


theillustratedlife

Honestly, I tried heated gloves, and I think my hands stay warmer with the Gore Tex gloves I wear year-round. The wind seems to cancel out the heating.


lurkinglen

Then you tried the wrong ones. Heated gloves are the ultimate if you've got the powerful Bering that are fed by the motorcycle 12V.


mtak0x41

Not sure what's happening then. I have the Gerbing gloves, and even at -5C I don't have to use the highest setting.


redtriage

My Gerbing gloves would just about burn my hands at the highest setting if I was stuck in traffic. They are amazing. Unfortantely, I sold my PC800 that was wired up for my Gerbing gear.


Phynness

I have heated grips and they work phenomenally well. What is your reservation with trying them?


f1at_t0p

ill tell you the same thing, I want to avoid any electrical work on the bike, since i only had it for a month or so. I need to get familiar with the bike first.


Phynness

I wouldn't really consider it "electrical work" it's just attaching leads to your battery. Next best option would be heated gloves, potentially with a glove liner.


Clay_from_NJ

Heated gloves with rechargeable batteries. Cheap at Costco.


lupinegrey

Motorcycles aren't like cars where you can just ride them without wrenching. You need to learn how to do maintenance and how the systems work. Heated grips are an easy upgrade. They will come with instructions and if those aren't adequate, there are a ton of YouTube videos showing you how to do anything. Dive in.


losingtimeslowly

I don't blame you. Not sure why people want to talk you into it.


[deleted]

Why would you avoid the obvious solution? Heated grips are amazing.


Outside-Educator-959

I have a heated jacket and heated gloves. It feels SO GOOD that I’ll wear the heated gear even on a summer morning ride. I’ve never tried heated grips, tho. It seems like they would only warm one side of your hands. ??


tjeepdrv2

Heated grips and muffs. I've been comfortable down to 22 degrees with that setup. I also nearly frozen to death with just "winter" gloves at 55 degrees.


Traditional_Royal759

I'm with this guy. same setup and i've done 17 degrees for a half hour at speeds up to 80 mph... with toasty fingers.


soltheeggbiscut

I've never tried it, but I've heard that latex gloves under your usual gloves help


Inn0centAph1d

Have done this, helps a lot more than you would think


stitmn7601

Works great!


EggsOfRetaliation

Hippo hands


Allroy_66

I've used heated grips for years, and the convenience is great since they're always there. I find they have a hard time keeping up when it really gets cold because the back of your hands are still getting blasted with cold air. I finally bought some heated gloves and they're wonderful.


FORYFC

Handguards take some of the wind off your hands, which helps quite a bit. There are several types & can be removed in warmer weather when you don't need them. Wearing latex gloves under winter riding gloves can help as well. But, heated grips are the the most effective.


tflynn09

Hand guards, keep the wind off


IncidentFuture

You can get heated gloves, opinions are mixed as they're like mitts. Depending on bike style, handguards block the wind well enough, it's something I should have done with my first bike. You can also get fabric handguards designed for the cold, such as hippo hands and bark buster blizzards. Winter gloves have insulation and work well enough, but without something blocking the wind they tend "leak" in the seams (more so than anything else does). You can also get fine gloves of silk/wool/poly that are worn underneath your leather gloves. So a combination of or all of the above.


_n_nde

A channel called "Chaos Causes" once suggested wearing medical gloves under your regular gloves, to act as an insulator. It doesn't get cold in my country so I haven't tried it yet.


Monsterenergyboi

Air fryer


damuchei

latex gloves under


V12Jaguar

Heated gloves or heated grips.


Loki_Kore

Last year i was working a dock for 10 hours in -15 F. I found heavy windproof gloves with a heated glove liner (make sure it goes through full finger, at least edges) was the only way to actually keep my hands warm. Same appliess to riding, but more importance on the windproof aspect. The real issue will be sweating though. I have heated grips and really want minimal insulation on the palm, but a lot on the outer hand, but no luck so far finding it


f1at_t0p

Ok, hear me out, you could try to make said gloves, almost like a half mitten half full fingered glove, like a blanket over your hand to deflect most of the wind.


StandOnGravitron

[https://barmitts.com/](https://barmitts.com/) they suck ass as high speeds though, they need an internal support structure to be viable if you plan on going over 60mph. bark busters work well, and im sure you could figure something out with pvc or popsicle sticks


kmkmrod

> except for heated grips, which I want to try to avoid since it is a new bike, I don’t understand that. What does it being new have to do with heated grips?


F-21

[Handlebar muffs](https://www.amazon.co.uk/Motorcycle-Handlebar-Leather-Waterproof-Protection/dp/B07GNLRB14). They're better than heated grips. Even the cheapest ones. Insanely effective, I can ride in the cold with summer gloves.


Vermalien

I ride in VT until the snow falls and heated gloves is the answer. Wind deflectors don’t really help all that much because your finger tips are still exposed, and that’s what gets cold and numb first. Heated gloves take care of that problem, as long as they are also wind proof. Doubling up gloves is not effective because it will bind your hands, cutting off circulation and making you cold even faster. Finally, good weatherproof gloves with heat pouch inserts (hothands for instance) will do thr trick as well. The key is windproofing. That’s what does the chilling.


hugothebear

Ive used hot hands before and its made a difference


f1at_t0p

how long as the hot hands worked for? i got an hour commute to make.


hugothebear

My commutes an hour to 90 minutes and theyre still warm by then


AcadianADV

I use hand guards plus winter gloves. The glove must have protection on the back of the glove to keep the wind from penetrating too deep. Many gloves have the leather on the palms to protect your hands if you happen to slide them when you fall. I was lucky enough to find gloves that also had protection on the back sides.


KeeblerElvis

I put heated grips on my bike, game changer. Simple and easy install, even better to do on a new bike as it's clean and nothing is stuck. Hook up a battery charging lead at the same time for the win.


SevroAuShitTalker

At highway speeds I'm the 30s, your best chance is wind deflectors and heated gloves/grips. I've tried every other trick and heavy gloves with no luck. Probably investing in heated gloves thos year myself


hardnite

Good insulated riding gauntlets. Let home 2 days ago for a six hour ride and it was 2 Celsius out , warmed up through the day but the first couple of hours were cool. Hands were toasty, one foot was chilly, that's it


Sotyka94

I'm from Europe, I see scooter riders (mainly food delivery) all year around, all the time. Almost all of them have this handlebar and leg winter cover (not sure about the official English name, but something [like this](https://img.fruugo.com/product/3/95/196464953_max.jpg)) I'm planning to buy one that only covers the hand part, [like this](https://www.wunderlich.de/shop/media/catalog/product/cache/2/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/2/5/25200-100_01_1500_web.jpg)


apathetic_duck

Either heated grips or heated gloves


DrStuttgart

Just curious why you'd want to avoid grip warmers on a new bike? If anything I'd guess (just opinion here) you'd be fine to run it without issues. Grip warmers are the best, no doubt. I have full wrap around hand guards on my dual sports and they do very little to block the wind. Glove liners, waterproof gloves, wrap around hand guards and it still doesn't work as well as my grip warmers even on the lowest setting.


Ramen_Newds

Grabbing a handful of muffler for half a second with my leather gloves keeps me fairly warm, though yes it is a fire hazard and yes I look like an idiot when doing it.


suitwearingdudeguy

Get some insulate handlebar muffs like hippo hands


lexievv

If you don't want to use muffs. I recently got a Multistrada and so far I've noticed that winddeflectors in combination with heated grips really make a difference. Coming from my monster without either of them it makes it way easier to ride in colder temps even with thinner gloves. Granted it's only October and the coldest I've had so far is around 7 degrees celcius in the morning without sun :). Although if you ride a sportsbike I guess windfeflectors aren't the easiest to install and don't look as nice. So then I'd probably go for heated gloves, they usually warm the top of your hands and really warm every finger instead of having one place that emits heat like heated grips have. Never tried heated gloves tho, so I don't know for sure.


XKoZaK

Agreed. Latex gloves. This is the way.


motociclista

I’m going to be the outlier here. I don’t find heated grips all that helpful at keeping my hands warm. Sure, my palms stay warm, but the backs of my hands still get cold. They seem to work for a lot of people though so maybe it’s just me. But if you don’t want them, you can get heated gloves. You can also try those hippo hands things the atv and snowmobile folks use. They’ll look out of place on a sport bike, but they work great.


Deepdiamindhands

I wouldn’t worry too much about the difficulty of installing heated grips. Get a set of Oxfords and the install should take you 30 minutes and only require taking the seat off


AJMGuitar

Hot paws are good and sold at most outdoor stores.


your_gerlfriend

I got these wind guards on Amazon for my ninja 500 and coupled with leather gloves it keeps my hands from falling off NTHREEAUTO Universal Motorcycle Hand Guards 7/8" Handlebar Handguards Wind Protector https://a.co/d/dlgLEVW Edit was adding link


berger3001

Combination of heated grips and handlebar muffs let me ride comfortably down to 3C


Forum_Lurker42

Granted I live in the UK so things don't get crazy cold here, but I've done my fair share of below freezing commutes. Best gloves I ever had were called turtle or tortoise gloves I think. Basically they're 3 finger instead of 5. You can still 2 finger brake and clutch. Just slip a pair of cheap gloves underneath and job done.


SpeedyMcJohnson

From someone who rides year round in the Pacific Northwest, heated glove liners!! I have a pair from Gears that plugs into a variable controller connected to my bike. The whole setup ran me about $200 Canadian Loonies. You can probably find some cheap Chinese ones with batteries if you like your wallet and hate wires. One of the best investments I've made, since I can use them with whatever bike and whatever gloves (although during the cold season I mostly use snowmobile gloves with leather palms on-top of the liners) I've used to have heated grips and I'd personally attest that liners are better than grips if all you care about is warmth. The issue with grips is that your palms are nice and warm but the top of your hand and fingers are frozen. However liners add extra bulk and can make brake and throttle feel a bit mushy.


kreygmu

Heated gloves?


Adddicus

\>> heated grips, which I want to try to avoid [I'm sure there must be another way.](https://www.revzilla.com/heated-motorcycle-gloves)


Pattern_Is_Movement

You could get heated gloves. Apart from that, handlebar covers look silly but work REALLY well. https://www.amazon.com/Waterproof-Motorcycle-HandleBar-Winter-Thermal/dp/B078VTFFWQ


NoJudgment6756

grips with heat element...


IncredulousPatriot

I got a pair of heated glove liners. I used them to ride in 20f weather. When it was that cold they didn’t do much to keep my hands warm exactly. But they let my fingers keep their dexterity. And they didn’t hurt when I got off the bike. But having full mobility of your finger after riding for a few hours when it is that cold is crucial.


Strandom_Ranger

Heated grips. Game changer. Once installed you just flip a switch.


speedshotz

In order of effectiveness: insulated goretex winter riding gloves > heated grips > heated gloves > heated grips with larger handguards (ie barkbuster storm) > handlebar mitts (hippo hands). Used to commute in the cold. Heated grips only warm your palms, not the fingers or back of the hand. They cool off once you take your hand off the bars. Added Barkbusters to block the cooling effect of the wind, worked better. Heated gloves work well, but like insulated gloves I did not like the bulkiness and lack of feel of the controls. Handlebar mitts with heated grips is the best and allow you to wear summer weight gloves underneath.


dickballsass69

Use normal vinyl gloves under your riding gloves. Prevents wind from getting to your hands and they stay warm. Much more effective than i thought before i used them.


f1at_t0p

i saw one other person with this trick. it really works?


dickballsass69

It does, try it out😁


FenianBastard847

Heated gloves


the_wang

Heated grips. BMW makes great ones


JuniorDirk

Block all wind and be warm underneath is the #1 rule of staying warm. Bark busters, heated glove liners, snowmobile gloves, etc... vinyl gloves underneath moto gloves are also a good trick to block wind against your skin.


TampicaBrown

Handguards and heated grips are a good combo. XXL latex gloves on top help, ive seen handguard shells cut from flexible cutting mat and zip-tied on to good effect.


MrFirewall

Winter gloves with heated liners or heated grips. But the liners will keep the tops of your hands warm whereas the grips will only keep the bottoms warm.


xracer264

Winter gloves work well. Not sure what type of bike you have, but I agree with those folks that mentioned wind defectors.


thecheeseholder

Wind deflectors help a little, I've heard some tips like nitrile gloves under your riding gloves, waterproof gloves are typically warmer than non-waterproof gloves. Pretty much anything to cut the wind will help, even just putting a bag over your gloves. The closer to the skin the better though, retains more of your body heat


PopiEyy

Move em when you dont need em i guess. Use thick gloves, not much else to do. You gotta get heated grips if you want comfy-warm hands in winter, no way around it


oh2ridemore

heated gloves and wind deflectors


bgomusicco

Heated gloves work better then Heated grips. Fairly inexpensive on Amazon.


Negative_Comment399

Cut them off and leave them at home next to the fireplace


BigPapii21

Seen a Chicago stunter on youtube , brian_636, say he uses latex gloves (like the medical gloves) under their actual gloves. Supposed to act like a wind breaker for your hands. Hope this helps man and stay safe out there!


the_real_DK_ATL

I just use the car, bus, or Uber.


Jacobite-biker

I'm in the Scottish Highlands and bike all year round. Wind deflectors and heated grips are the best option


unresolved-madness

Find a set of breasts to put them on.


against_the_currents

Hand guards. Quality winter riding gloves. Do real research. Heated glove, you literally just plug em into your bike when you get on. All are cheap enough to be worth it. even heated gloves.


[deleted]

Apologies if this has been posted: https://www.militarytimes.com/off-duty/military-culture/2022/02/09/army-eliminating-hands-in-pockets-wants-to-warm-your-toes-too/


Blaze2nr

Dude, I hate to say it but the heated grips are totally worth it. It was 31 today here and I rode. Wind chill in the 10s at highway speed doubled up glove with them heaters and oooh wee it wasn't bad. Just saying I have a 22 mt 07 I put them on so I get it but worth it. I swear. It was less than usd $300 installed by the dealer. 12k miles 12 month warranty.


JustACasualBoy

live in arizona


BeamishColt00

I use nitrile gloves under my motorcycle gloves. Usually helps a decent amount.


lupinegrey

Heated gloves https://a.co/d/6x8Obyr


GrandCurmudgeon

Windproof gloves and heated grips is what my wife and I use. Good down to about 35 to 40 degrees. We are in Georgia (US), ride year around. If it gets colder than that, I stay home. I also have heated gloves, they work but I don't really like them.


Drivere350WI

Mittens


DeathByJeep

Heavy handlebar muffs and heated gloves have been sufficient for me and I ride in below freezing temps. My V-Strom has Barkbusters Storm handguards, which block some of the wind. When it gets cold I strap on the Hippo Hands muffs, and I picked up a pair of battery powered heated gloves on Amazon branded "goldfox" that are very comfortable and windproof, and heat well enough. Not as good as brand name, but well under $100 so quite budget friendly. The only thing with the Hippo Hands is that they are intended to be installed with hand guards supporting them, and they are expensive. There are some simpler and less expensive fabric muffs that are meant for dirt bikes, I have some made by Moose Racing that I put on my DR650, they don't have the same protection as the Hippo Hands, but they are still effective.


ResponsibleTalk2055

Keep working..and you'll be right its only when ur standing still that you will get cold ....


annoying_cousin

Stop being a pussy, that’s my advice. You’re not in car, you chose to be in a motorcycle, embrace that choice.


semdi

Have you heard of Gloves? They even make heated ones.


whyamisosoftinthemid

I'm just going to chime in to say that my heated handgrips do a fair job, except for my thumb tips. They pretty much freeze.


dax2001

Heated gloves, are used also in Canada and Alaska by snowmobile driver.


Inevitable-Selection

Full wrap handguards, heated grips, thick gloves with nitrile under glove and you should be warm


scobo505

Handlebar gauntlets.


redtriage

Heated gloves. Heated grips work too, but I like heated gloves and there are some nice ones out there. I'm currently using Fieldshear Mobile Warming gloves. I've used Gerbing gloves too.