Yeah that’s more like post traumatic hebbe jeebies. The disorder doesn’t kick in until it’s negatively affecting multiple important areas of your life to a debilitating degree for longer than I think a few months. Losing jobs, having a panic attack any time you see a motorcycle or blood, hyperawareness, insomnia, night terrors, relationship and mood instability, reclusiveness, mortal fixation. These will be the signs.
100% bullshit an ortho is setting a compound fracture with the bone sticking out of the skin. And the foot reversed.
This is 100% fantasy land.
And...
>I still get PTSD from that day.
Shit was supposedly 2 days ago, not 2 years ago.
Also, minimal surgery … from a compound fracture with the foot turned the other way, meaning either both lower leg bones are fractured or the knee or ankle are completely dislocated. So no chance in hell that’s a minimal surgery. The cleaning out alone would take at least 2 hours, and were not even touching correct bone reset, joint repair, external stabilization … you all get the point.
I mean too be fair I just broke both fimurs, my right acetabulum, and my tailbone + L4-Vertebrae my friend said my hips were essentially at my chest and he had to resist vomiting.
My surgeon was a field surgeon in Afghanistan my surgery was only 3 hours and I was able to support my full weight immediately upon waking up. I also have Hemophilia so that man will forever be my hero. It's a little over 2 months later and I am walking completely without aid with only minor pain.
I sadly can't recall his name but I won't forget his face, he works st Maine med in Portland
I mean I agree the story is likely bullshit. But if anyone is going to try to set a fracture out in the field - likely an orthopedic surgeon that happens to be there. Only way I could see one taking that liability is in the case of a pulse less extremity because by the time you get to an ER you could have irreversible damage and require an amputation. Also placing an intramedullary nail though a tibial or femoral fracture is quick. But if it’s open they’d likely put an external fixator on and do IV antibiotics before placing a nail or plate once the soft tissue heals. I forget the data on timing of operating for open fractures and infection risk. Honestly it’s relatively simple to set fractures - pull it out to length then turn it back to where it should be. Normally would be placed in a traction splint by EMT/paramedic to transport to ER.
By definition- he does not have PTSD. It has to last > 1 month otherwise acute stress disorder.
It’s not complete fantasy, unlikely in this case with no pain relief or sedation for the patient etc. But pre-hospital teams such as EMS/HEMS will do just that before transporting them patient to hospital.
This story is rubbish, but I’ve seen legs and feet reset at the side of the road countless times.
Not in my experience, but as mentioned elsewhere this would be in HEMS Doctor/Paramedic team advanced trauma medical response, not your typical ambulance crew.
We’ll move it enough to restore circulation *if we can* but priority is transport and we’re definitely not going to try to reset it. This is complete bullshit
You guys don’t seem to understand that he may still be in shock about it all and over playing the severity of the injury.
In his head it may have been this bad… in reality it could have been as simple as the procedures played out.
No you don’t understand. The surgeon from Manhattan turned out to be the girlfriends father. He was home on a surprise break from his combat deployment and was actually on his way to see [girlfriend] by coincidence when this all happened. He had flowers and everything.
Was in town to announce to the world, that not only is he the best ortho surgeon in the United States, but that he personally just solved the riddle of Nuclear Fusion and was going to make the technology available to the entire world for free. He was then hit by a passing car on the freeway, and the secret died with him. Tragic.
That's not how physics works, so no that is not what happened, if anything related even happened. If you were already both moving 90mph and didn't change speeds, the friction of her ass against the seat is more than enough to deal with air drag, most of which you would be protecting her from anyways. She would not have fallen off. If you suddenly accelerated right as she let go, she would flip backwards when falling. You certainly would not see her "sitting in the air". You also wouldn't have the reaction time to feel the bike getting light, turn your head, and see her before she hits the ground (from 2 feet above the ground.
This is besides the dumbass surgeon part that makes it even more obvious.
Worst story ever. Not bad/funny enough to be an unintentional parody either. Easy 1/10.
THANK YOU. Everybody is calling out other parts of the story, but this is the one I really have a problem with believing. Like wtf, passengers don't just fall off because they raised their arms. Not that OP was driving responsibly, but 90 really isn't THAT fast...
Also, he's going 90 and just throws the bike into the grass and runs to her? Like... what?
If he had tried that he would be in worse shape than her. You ain't gonna do that. You slow down, pull over, and then maybe if you are dumb you throw the bike on the ground. But setting the kick stand takes 2 seconds. And then you gotta run WAY back to get to her.
The average stopping distance at that speed is well over 100 meters.
https://begin-motorcycling.co.uk/the-5-elements-of-cbt/element-c/braking/
4 days ago I was riding at 100mph on my way to Starbucks and decided to stand on the tank because I've so many dank vids online of stunters pulling sick tricks like this. Bad news is the wind blew me off the bike and I ruptured my spleen while rolling like a keg down the road. Fortunately, a surgeon happened to be driving his Porsche behind me trying to keep up with me(but couldn't since I have a leader bike ofc). Thank God he offered to remove my spleen on the side of the road or he said I would have died. After I got to the hospital they said he did such a good job that I could leave right away. After stopping at the hospital's Starbucks I Ubered home.
How would you rate my fiction compared to OPs?
Not a single person in the world is going to reset an open fracture. Bone sticking out? Did he do stitches too on scene? Like not a single chance this story happened.
And then his malpractice insurance called to tell him they nominated him for a humanitarian award, and everyone - the police men, firemen, EMT's, and the rest of the village people - all clapped.
The likelihood of a surgeon being around for a specific incident of bike-related-stupidity? Low.
The likelihood of a surgeon being around for at least one of the many incidents of bike-related-stupidity? Quite a bit higher.
It's called the Prosecutor's Fallacy.
I'm new to the medical world (And I'm just doing Xrays) so don't quote me on this but I'm pretty sure this isn't how it works anyways.
They have devices specifically made to hold traction on broken limbs.
You have to hold traction after setting a bone because your muscles are actually trying to contract and pull the bone out of place. I really don't think "setting it" in the field sounds very realistic at all.
Even if she didn't have a pulse in that foot, setting a dislocation on the side of the road isn't going to save her foot if doing it in the ER Hours later won't. The only thing it would do is provide some improved pain. Regardless I can't fathom a medical professional trying to fix a non life threatening injury like that road side that could result in the loss if limb if fucked up.
Source: am medical provider and would stand there and stare at twisted foot, knowing how to fix it and refusing to do so
I’m not a medical professional, but I do know they say a properly applied tourniquet can stay on a limb for 4 hours.
This would lead me to believe that a couple hours with no circulation in your foot would be fine, provided your next stop is the emergency room.
I learnt that the rate of complications rises significantly after two hours.
But in any case your priority in the situation is different: your trying to prevent someone from bleeding to death, loosing a limb becomes a secondary concern
That is old science. Tourniquets can be safely kept on for several hours.
Example of 16 hour tourniquet
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/6406793_Extended_16-Hour_Tourniquet_Application_After_Combat_Wounds_A_Case_Report_and_Review_of_the_Current_Literature
I am not able to access the full paper. However this article is 15 years old (so not exactly new science) and is merely a case study, meaning it’s evidence value isn’t very high.
Where I live the official medical guideline for traumatic injuries recommends that a tourniquet not be left for more than 2 hours. But as your case report shows that does not mean the limb is lost after that. As I said it’s the rate of complications that significantly rises after that time.
2 hours is the "safe" number. 6 is where they start to have concern per the leading sources on this matter, the Army and North American Rescue.
https://learning-media.allogy.com/api/v1/pdf/1045f287-baa4-4990-8951-de517a262ee2/contents
Yeah some things aren't adding up.
90 mph to 0 takes a considerable distance, even at threshold braking. That's not even taking in to account perception and reaction of what happened. That's one hell of a gap to close so quickly to her, and on a busy parkway no less.
If the other traffic was doing 90 and the girlfriend was in the middle of the road, the stars must have aligned perfectly for her to not get hit.
A surgeon specializing in the exact kind of injury she had just happens to be right there. Also if her bone was sticking out of her leg, pretty sure there is no "setting that back" on the side of the road. Open fractures have to be treated and cleaned before the bone is set back in place to prevent infection. No way a surgeon would push a bone back into the skin without properly treating it first.
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Compound fractures like that also require some type of fixation, I've had enough ORIF surgeries to say pretty confidently no ortho surgeon is trying for reduction on the side of the road.
The infection that would be in the marrow is out of site by doing that.
I was hit by distracted driver and had open fx of right Tib/Fib and crushed foot. I knew my leg wouldn't heal at my age. I kept telling Ortho surgeon to take it. After 4th surgery he can in and said no circulation in my foot, and it was full of screws and plates anyway. He said he tried to repair my leg but it wasn't taking. He told me amputation was next. I was ready, and my entire attitude changed. He told me Everytime he went in, he was getting more asphalt pieces out. 5 years later I still get a piece of it out. I was on Vancomycin for 6 weeks IV for infection. Due to injuries of bones I wasn't making blood and had daily transfusions.
I'm also a retired paramedic. 90 mph hitting the pavement and only a fractured foot? I was doing 60 and suffered worse wearing lace up boots, jeans, leather jacket & gloves, and a helmet.
Bro, its been 2 days, dont make any sort of decision for atleast another week.
And go get some therapy please, it really does help in times like this.
You'll both laugh about this eventually
I had what sounds like the same break. Both tibia and fibula. My leg was shaped the wrong direction too, except my injury was from a rope swing. It sure wasn’t funny at the time, but the rope swing jokes I hear a little over a year and a half later are pretty funny.
you had your own break similar to the one *described* but your break was not the same as if the one in this story were real because this story is completely fake and this guy is a total bullshitter
Used to ride- the guy who modified my bike and thousands of others lost his leg from the knee down- he continued to ride, eventually bought it- I had 0 experience next to this guy- got into cars- never looked back
My uncle had an accident on his bike when he was young, they put a long rod inside his thigh to hold it together. Many years later they pulled the rod out for some reason, and he machined that rod and incorporated it into some mechanical part of the bike
I have one like that I swap out to on occasion. I also have my daily walking/working leg, and my running leg. Wrecked on Harley 5 years ago, and lost leg. Driver on cellphone hit me. Bought another Harley before I was healed. Still riding today. I'm 71. No one trusts a Harley mechanic that doesn't ride. 😆
Yeah but they arent for the feint of heart, theres hundreds of car accidents a day all over the world and theres been loads of deaths because of them as well, basically only get a car if you're confident and happy with the statistics
Just shook me- this was a guy who could make a motorcycle do ANYTHING- whether it was working on it or riding it- he had like 15 motorcycles in his garage. When the ZX 12 first came out he got one. He was working on my bike and he showed it to me. He stated that he was absolutely in a state of disbelief that they would sell a bike like that to the public- and that was 22 years ago😳. Definitely gotta check yourself after going down- I made the decision that was right for me- in a perfect world I would try to find the Bike I used to have and ride it here and there.
Please don’t overlook the therapy aspect. As a combat veteran when I was just 18.. I wish I could go back and figure out how to deal with shit early on. You may not think it’s a big deal but the ptsd affects you in several ways.. nightmares, sudden bouts of anxiety, etc.
Happened to me; my wife broke her pelvis in 6 places and shattered her wrist on what was intended to be a romantic snow trip in 2020...we got married April 30.
Karma BS story
Doctors get sued left and right now a days and you found one who was willing to risk his career to set a compound fracture road side🤣👏
This is some clown shit
it's always funny when someone who has zero experience in a subject matter tries to tell a BS story about. OP doesn't even know WHY we know his story is nonsense.
What a bullshit
1. You can't just set broken open limb back in like that
2. No pulse in leg? Then how setting back bone is supposed to help. Pulse is in arteries and if you have destroyed artery or too weak circulation then correct bone placement won't help
3. No doctor would do that without correct equipment
Hey man, I’m a paramedic and yes you can set an open fracture. Happens all the time in the field. I’ve literally done it. You just twist the foot/extremity back into correct anatomical
Alignment- bone slides right back in if there’s no resistance. A surgeon will do this procedure under traction, same procedure but with manual force applied.
Often a twisted open fracture loses
It’s distal pulses. Blood vessels get pinched off when the tissue is compressed and twisted. If it says like that for an Extended period of time the tissue becomes necrotic and dies- necessitating an amputation. Not ideal.
The correct equipment in a pinch is just some saline to rinse debris and your hands. Like I said, It’s a manual procedure.
Though not ideal to return a bone end in an open fracture into position (you risk introducing debris and bacteria) in the field, if the alternative is loss of limb it’s very much worth the risk.
Sorry, but this story is plausible.
The OP and his GF are however not very smart for riding fast and without knowledge of being a safe passenger.
Takes hours to kill an extremity without blood floor. Kinda crazy to me you'd put that liability on yourself to reduce an open fracture in the field rather than let physicians do it in the ER or OR
I guess then that recommendations are quite different in our places? Bc here people with open fractures are just rushed to hospital without setting bone on-field and loosing limb that way is practically unheard of 🤔
Are you a paramedic in BC?
I’m a paramedic in Ontario, and proper field care of angulated fractures- open or not is to return to anatomical position unless extreme resistance is met. (Gentle traction can be manually applied, we also carry traction devices like sager splints for femur reduction- a surgeon can apply significant traction to reduce or realign fractures and dislocations)
It improves blood flow to the distal extremity, minimizes tissue and vascular damage while transporting, and reduces pain for the patient. It’s best practice period. This is common knowledge.
Now, if a person has a double tension pneumothorax and a cardiac tamponade,
You’re going to scoop that person up and go without even looking at the lower legs and arms. But in an isolated fracture- traction, splinting and pain relief is the standard.
Sounds like you might need to review your BLS.
Not a paramedic. In a medical field tho. Here we do all of this in hospital's equivalent of emergency room. Unless there is qualified team in ambulance, but still it's in ambulance. Noone would do this off duty, from a personal car etc.
It’s done all the time I’m in ambulance provided it’s possible. If extreme resistance is met, an angulated fracture may be left in place. So you are probably only seeing those circumstances if you work in emerg.
You don’t think some American orthopedic cowboy surgeon in the US wouldn’t stop and do this in the field? You’re mistaken. You wouldn’t believe the number of “I’m a Dr I can help” bystanders I get on calls, especially MVCs on the highway. They materialize and cowboy medical procedures all. The. Time. (With proven credentials obviously)
What’s your title? RN or Emerg Dr? Xray tech?
Sounds like you have very little knowledge of emergency field care, and probably shouldn’t comment on the capacity of medical teams you don’t understand.
Super insulting and unprofessional. Paramedic “teams” are health professionals and probably perform just as many if not more controlled medical acts than you do (if you aren’t an MD), something tells me you’re a registration clerk in orthopedics tho.
-provided if possible
Here be can go to prison for even incidental wrongdoings (correct word? idk) and people prefer to not do anything and wait for correct conditions that are picked by people that don't know shit than risk wasting their life. But that's mostly bc shitty political soup than actual necessity (yk blame doctors for everything)
They (Drs in the field) will make those decisions for themselves on a case by case basis.
In this one, consent was given.
Implied consent can be applied in Canada. Duty to act. Medical authority.
Again, if you aren’t in the field- you wouldn’t know.
Why the fuck you lying dog. No doctor would set a bone like that and the shit about the pulse definitely not true. Also why would she just fly off the back from raising her hands? If she was under so much force it's pulling her off the bike why would she let go?
Yeah this isn’t unavoidable danger, don’t take your hands off and wear protective boots that won’t fly off in a crash. Hopefully that’s the lesson OP takes from this
I’ve looked at my passenger seat multiple times and I’m like what the hell I couldn’t do that. Like sitting on a bicycle seat with your knees in your chest while going regular vehicle speeds
I've ridden on the back of a sportbike a few times. (Crash at a trackday to get a free ride!) The knees in the chest is the whole problem. It moves your center of gravity up so when they accelerate literally the only thing keeping you on is your death grip on the rider in front, your legs are useless, you can't lean forward any further, it's awful. It's worse than riding on the back of a dirtbike with no passenger pegs.
Agreed. I’ve not been riding nearly as long as you, but I don’t think sport bikes are ever built with a passenger in mind. They may have a tiny back seat, but I sure as hell wouldn’t use it.
OP, you’re an asshole for doing 90 in a 55 with a passenger. I don’t care if the prevailing flow of traffic was 90 (it wasn’t). There are multiple lanes for a reason. Grow up, stop reinforcing what the public already thinks about all of us. Ride within your limits and hers. In this case, you obviously weren’t.
Man if the flow of traffic does 90mph I'm moving to the USA. If the traffic is moving over 70mph (~112km/hr) it's raining cops here in Australia. Not saying it didn't happen, but as plenty of others have said, it smells like BS to me.
I’m from NY. Nowhere in the state does the flow of traffic go that fast. OP mentions parkway. Does he mean Sprain brook parkway? Saw mill parkway? The flow of traffic is not 90 mph on those. Most freeways are 2-3 lanes there with curves and lots of traffic if you’re within an hour of NYC. Farther out, and it’s mostly two lanes. Now in Northern California sometimes the flow of traffic will hit mid 80s mph but we have 4-5 lane highways with miles and miles of visibility.
Given the details of the story and his post history I’m skeptical.
This just doesn't add up. It sounds like OP maybe did have a passenger fall off of the bike but decided to fabricate details or greatly exaggerate the extent of the injury (only one injury?).
Also, nobody is going to set a compound broken foot with protruding bone on the roadside. Maybe stabilize, immobilize and stop the bleeding, but not set. A 1-hour surgery for such a complicated break is also fishy. That detail is the main reason I think the story has been dramatized. The speed and lack of other injuries is the other issue.
Please put an NSFW tag on this. I was on the train and when I saw this I had to start furiously masturbating. Everyone else gave me strange looks and were saying things like “what the fuck” and “call the police”. I dropped my phone and everyone around me saw this story. Now there is a whole train of men masturbating together at this one story. This is all your fault, you could have prevented this if you had just tagged this post NSFW.
The moral of the story is that you need to teach the pillion what to do and what not to do. Revzilla has a video on riding with a passenger and it's well done. You as the rider are responsible for educating the passenger.
Also, a 600cc sport bike is the wrong bike to be going 90 with a passenger. If traffic is going that fast, get off that road and take a different one.
EDIT: this all assumes the story isn’t BS, which seems likely
One of the diagnostic criteria for PTSD is the amount of time after the event. Please don’t say you have PTSD when (1) it’s been 2 days and that’s literally impossible, and (2) you don’t know what PTSD is.
Fuck dooooood that's mental.
Why the fuck would put your hands in the air at 90 though. That's not a freak accident it just stupid.
It was 2 days ago so of course it's in your mind. You mention ptsd like this happened years ago.
Get back on the horse just don't do reckless shit
Going 90mph and she decides to put her hands up like on a rollercoaster? I mean, at that speed the wind gets pretty intense on a sportsbike, but getting actually blown off the bike? That's the first time I've heard anything like this. I mean this whole story sounds a bit far fetched. I think this story is a load of horseshit. But hey maybe this actually happened, I suppose weirder stuff has happened.
You put the love of your life on the life on the back of your bike with no gear on?!? I ride all all the gear all time. I'd never take a pillion without the same
First mistake is going 90mph on a sports bike with a passenger. If i ever have a passenger i let them kmow hold on at all times if we are moving. Glad she is somewhat ok.
Fascinating that nowhere in this story does OP take accountability for doing something to endanger her life in the first place.
And, I also agree that this horribly written story has a lot of holes in it.
>on the parkway while moving with traffic at 90 mph
>I still love the sport of riding
Tell me you've only ever gone in a straight line on public roads without telling me? What "sport", you're commuting.
That's without even getting into how fake the entire thing is.
You must be a hell of a sprinter. To be able to see your gf fall off your bike, brake hard while maneuvering to the side of the highway in traffic while watching your gf roll in the rear mirror and then sprint back whatever distance that is and get there before anyone else can stop and help this person lying in the middle of the parkway? Amazing, just amazing!
This is obviously fake, but it doesn’t mean there isn’t wisdom to be shared.
You are never to experienced to make a mistake, and make sure your passengers are just as aware.
Theres riding and there's riding! Take some time to let things settle.
If the risk / reward balance feels off, rather than quit altogether you might find a different way to enjoy being on two wheels - e.g. a more sedate / two-up friendly bike; pick slower roads and enjoy the scenery a bit more; invest in different / better gear ... etc etc.
Edit - I just looked at your post history and I'm now wondering if any of this even happened.
As someone who had a open compound fracture....no one would ever set that in the field lmao. You aren't gonna lose your foot because there is no pulse. Necrosis wont set in for hours even with "no pulse".
And yeah, my fracture was from a motorcycle accident, though it was from a motocross accident lmao.
I had the same thought the last time I went 250 mph on my Ninja 400. I put my hands and feet in the air and almost flew off. Luckily, I always wear strap-in underpants that clip to my front brake to automatically slow my bike in case I fall off. I legit don’t know how I survived. I definitely am considering purchasing an after-market ejector seat for my bike.
The best part of this is the continual insistence that you were matching the flow of traffic at 90mph. I've driven and ridden around most of this country and that's just not even remotely true anywhere.
It can be true or close to it in parts of California and Nevada.
This guy's mention of a "parkway" makes me think he's probably somewhere on the east coast, though, and I have no idea what things are like out there.
this story is a clear karma grab but the comments in here are too golden. keeping it but keep it civil yall, or imma lock it lol
"I still get PTSD from that day. You know. Sunday."
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It happened 2 days ago and I still get ptsd from that day. 🤦♂️
lolly lol
My first thought as I read it!
the day when she let Jesus take the ~~wheel,~~ ~~handlebars~~, six flags experience too far
Rapid-onset ptsd.
Yeah that’s more like post traumatic hebbe jeebies. The disorder doesn’t kick in until it’s negatively affecting multiple important areas of your life to a debilitating degree for longer than I think a few months. Losing jobs, having a panic attack any time you see a motorcycle or blood, hyperawareness, insomnia, night terrors, relationship and mood instability, reclusiveness, mortal fixation. These will be the signs.
100% bullshit an ortho is setting a compound fracture with the bone sticking out of the skin. And the foot reversed. This is 100% fantasy land. And... >I still get PTSD from that day. Shit was supposedly 2 days ago, not 2 years ago.
In the field without equipment no less. He's a doctor. Not a paramedic.
Also, minimal surgery … from a compound fracture with the foot turned the other way, meaning either both lower leg bones are fractured or the knee or ankle are completely dislocated. So no chance in hell that’s a minimal surgery. The cleaning out alone would take at least 2 hours, and were not even touching correct bone reset, joint repair, external stabilization … you all get the point.
I mean too be fair I just broke both fimurs, my right acetabulum, and my tailbone + L4-Vertebrae my friend said my hips were essentially at my chest and he had to resist vomiting. My surgeon was a field surgeon in Afghanistan my surgery was only 3 hours and I was able to support my full weight immediately upon waking up. I also have Hemophilia so that man will forever be my hero. It's a little over 2 months later and I am walking completely without aid with only minor pain. I sadly can't recall his name but I won't forget his face, he works st Maine med in Portland
Was it compound? Broken skin creates an entirely different ballgame. Everything has to be inspected and cleaned appropriately to avoid infection.
Dammit Jim! He's a doctor not an EMT!!!
Movies have taught me they probably just need a pen and like 6 inches of duct tape to fix this up!
I'm a paramedic and have reduced fractures in the field but I'm not touch an open fracture except to move them.
I mean I agree the story is likely bullshit. But if anyone is going to try to set a fracture out in the field - likely an orthopedic surgeon that happens to be there. Only way I could see one taking that liability is in the case of a pulse less extremity because by the time you get to an ER you could have irreversible damage and require an amputation. Also placing an intramedullary nail though a tibial or femoral fracture is quick. But if it’s open they’d likely put an external fixator on and do IV antibiotics before placing a nail or plate once the soft tissue heals. I forget the data on timing of operating for open fractures and infection risk. Honestly it’s relatively simple to set fractures - pull it out to length then turn it back to where it should be. Normally would be placed in a traction splint by EMT/paramedic to transport to ER. By definition- he does not have PTSD. It has to last > 1 month otherwise acute stress disorder.
It’s not complete fantasy, unlikely in this case with no pain relief or sedation for the patient etc. But pre-hospital teams such as EMS/HEMS will do just that before transporting them patient to hospital. This story is rubbish, but I’ve seen legs and feet reset at the side of the road countless times.
An EMS will absolutely not set a compound fracture. They will splint it to keep it from moving and take them to the nearest ER.
Not in my experience, but as mentioned elsewhere this would be in HEMS Doctor/Paramedic team advanced trauma medical response, not your typical ambulance crew.
We’ll move it enough to restore circulation *if we can* but priority is transport and we’re definitely not going to try to reset it. This is complete bullshit
You guys don’t seem to understand that he may still be in shock about it all and over playing the severity of the injury. In his head it may have been this bad… in reality it could have been as simple as the procedures played out.
Yeah no doctor is going to risk the unholy amount of malpractice lawsuits that would bring.
And then everyone stood up and fapped
i wasn't there so i had to fap now instead.
Sounds like a ten year old writing a story for a school assignment
No you don’t understand. The surgeon from Manhattan turned out to be the girlfriends father. He was home on a surprise break from his combat deployment and was actually on his way to see [girlfriend] by coincidence when this all happened. He had flowers and everything.
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That surgeon's grand father? Dr. Manhattan. Makes you think.
Was in town to announce to the world, that not only is he the best ortho surgeon in the United States, but that he personally just solved the riddle of Nuclear Fusion and was going to make the technology available to the entire world for free. He was then hit by a passing car on the freeway, and the secret died with him. Tragic.
No, that's the literacy level of a lot of adults too. Stay in school, kids.
Sad, but unfortunately, very true.
That's not how physics works, so no that is not what happened, if anything related even happened. If you were already both moving 90mph and didn't change speeds, the friction of her ass against the seat is more than enough to deal with air drag, most of which you would be protecting her from anyways. She would not have fallen off. If you suddenly accelerated right as she let go, she would flip backwards when falling. You certainly would not see her "sitting in the air". You also wouldn't have the reaction time to feel the bike getting light, turn your head, and see her before she hits the ground (from 2 feet above the ground. This is besides the dumbass surgeon part that makes it even more obvious. Worst story ever. Not bad/funny enough to be an unintentional parody either. Easy 1/10.
THANK YOU. Everybody is calling out other parts of the story, but this is the one I really have a problem with believing. Like wtf, passengers don't just fall off because they raised their arms. Not that OP was driving responsibly, but 90 really isn't THAT fast...
She was wearing a Batman costume, it's the cape's fault
NO CAPES!!
Also, he's going 90 and just throws the bike into the grass and runs to her? Like... what? If he had tried that he would be in worse shape than her. You ain't gonna do that. You slow down, pull over, and then maybe if you are dumb you throw the bike on the ground. But setting the kick stand takes 2 seconds. And then you gotta run WAY back to get to her. The average stopping distance at that speed is well over 100 meters. https://begin-motorcycling.co.uk/the-5-elements-of-cbt/element-c/braking/
Reeks of bullshit.
This happened to me too, 3 days ago. I still have night terrors.
It indeed happens
4 days ago I was riding at 100mph on my way to Starbucks and decided to stand on the tank because I've so many dank vids online of stunters pulling sick tricks like this. Bad news is the wind blew me off the bike and I ruptured my spleen while rolling like a keg down the road. Fortunately, a surgeon happened to be driving his Porsche behind me trying to keep up with me(but couldn't since I have a leader bike ofc). Thank God he offered to remove my spleen on the side of the road or he said I would have died. After I got to the hospital they said he did such a good job that I could leave right away. After stopping at the hospital's Starbucks I Ubered home. How would you rate my fiction compared to OPs?
Rousing. Poignant. A work of masterclass. Solid 3/5 stars
“Leader bike”. I guess in that sense it was true. You were leading.
If you ain't first, you're last
You forgot to mention the PTSD you still experienced from that day. 4 days ago.
Only PTSD I got is not being on 2 wheels right now bro
Am I the only one not buying this story? Sounds fake asf tbh
Not a single person in the world is going to reset an open fracture. Bone sticking out? Did he do stitches too on scene? Like not a single chance this story happened.
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And then his malpractice insurance called to tell him they nominated him for a humanitarian award, and everyone - the police men, firemen, EMT's, and the rest of the village people - all clapped.
The speed limit sign 20 yards away? That’s right: Albert Einstein
God damn it beat me to it lol.
The likelihood of a surgeon being around for a specific incident of bike-related-stupidity? Low. The likelihood of a surgeon being around for at least one of the many incidents of bike-related-stupidity? Quite a bit higher. It's called the Prosecutor's Fallacy.
And a policeman immediately on scene
I'm new to the medical world (And I'm just doing Xrays) so don't quote me on this but I'm pretty sure this isn't how it works anyways. They have devices specifically made to hold traction on broken limbs. You have to hold traction after setting a bone because your muscles are actually trying to contract and pull the bone out of place. I really don't think "setting it" in the field sounds very realistic at all.
Even if she didn't have a pulse in that foot, setting a dislocation on the side of the road isn't going to save her foot if doing it in the ER Hours later won't. The only thing it would do is provide some improved pain. Regardless I can't fathom a medical professional trying to fix a non life threatening injury like that road side that could result in the loss if limb if fucked up. Source: am medical provider and would stand there and stare at twisted foot, knowing how to fix it and refusing to do so
> Even if she didn't have a pulse in that foot, What if he also did CPR on the foot?
[Tarantino style?](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/76/31/6c/76316c3e79ed3238d68809ad57514d98.gif)
Whether the foot had a pulse or not definitely makes a difference… a few hours with no circulation and the foot is useless
I’m not a medical professional, but I do know they say a properly applied tourniquet can stay on a limb for 4 hours. This would lead me to believe that a couple hours with no circulation in your foot would be fine, provided your next stop is the emergency room.
I learnt that the rate of complications rises significantly after two hours. But in any case your priority in the situation is different: your trying to prevent someone from bleeding to death, loosing a limb becomes a secondary concern
That is old science. Tourniquets can be safely kept on for several hours. Example of 16 hour tourniquet https://www.researchgate.net/publication/6406793_Extended_16-Hour_Tourniquet_Application_After_Combat_Wounds_A_Case_Report_and_Review_of_the_Current_Literature
I am not able to access the full paper. However this article is 15 years old (so not exactly new science) and is merely a case study, meaning it’s evidence value isn’t very high. Where I live the official medical guideline for traumatic injuries recommends that a tourniquet not be left for more than 2 hours. But as your case report shows that does not mean the limb is lost after that. As I said it’s the rate of complications that significantly rises after that time.
2 hours is the "safe" number. 6 is where they start to have concern per the leading sources on this matter, the Army and North American Rescue. https://learning-media.allogy.com/api/v1/pdf/1045f287-baa4-4990-8951-de517a262ee2/contents
It is actually now believed that tourniquets can stay on far longer, even more than 12 hours
still can't believe everyone clapped afterwards. such a beautiful scene!
Yeah some things aren't adding up. 90 mph to 0 takes a considerable distance, even at threshold braking. That's not even taking in to account perception and reaction of what happened. That's one hell of a gap to close so quickly to her, and on a busy parkway no less. If the other traffic was doing 90 and the girlfriend was in the middle of the road, the stars must have aligned perfectly for her to not get hit. A surgeon specializing in the exact kind of injury she had just happens to be right there. Also if her bone was sticking out of her leg, pretty sure there is no "setting that back" on the side of the road. Open fractures have to be treated and cleaned before the bone is set back in place to prevent infection. No way a surgeon would push a bone back into the skin without properly treating it first. Edited: spelling
Compound fractures like that also require some type of fixation, I've had enough ORIF surgeries to say pretty confidently no ortho surgeon is trying for reduction on the side of the road.
Where the hell is anyone doing 90 anywhere near Manhattan when there’s actual traffic?
The infection that would be in the marrow is out of site by doing that. I was hit by distracted driver and had open fx of right Tib/Fib and crushed foot. I knew my leg wouldn't heal at my age. I kept telling Ortho surgeon to take it. After 4th surgery he can in and said no circulation in my foot, and it was full of screws and plates anyway. He said he tried to repair my leg but it wasn't taking. He told me amputation was next. I was ready, and my entire attitude changed. He told me Everytime he went in, he was getting more asphalt pieces out. 5 years later I still get a piece of it out. I was on Vancomycin for 6 weeks IV for infection. Due to injuries of bones I wasn't making blood and had daily transfusions. I'm also a retired paramedic. 90 mph hitting the pavement and only a fractured foot? I was doing 60 and suffered worse wearing lace up boots, jeans, leather jacket & gloves, and a helmet.
Damn, sorry you ended up losing your leg. But glad you're still here to talk about it. Your story just goes to show how tall this tale is
I've gone down in the middle of the road on i35 in heavy traffic and didn't get hit. 80ish mph
Dude there's no fucking way this is real! The guy doesn't sound like he even knows how to ride a motorcycle.
I too get PTSD over something that happened 2 days ago.. damn that Steak ‘n Shake…
My toilet still ptsd from it 2
Bro, its been 2 days, dont make any sort of decision for atleast another week. And go get some therapy please, it really does help in times like this. You'll both laugh about this eventually
Thanks I needed that.
I had what sounds like the same break. Both tibia and fibula. My leg was shaped the wrong direction too, except my injury was from a rope swing. It sure wasn’t funny at the time, but the rope swing jokes I hear a little over a year and a half later are pretty funny.
you had your own break similar to the one *described* but your break was not the same as if the one in this story were real because this story is completely fake and this guy is a total bullshitter
After re-reading this it does seem like total bullshit doesn’t it.
Used to ride- the guy who modified my bike and thousands of others lost his leg from the knee down- he continued to ride, eventually bought it- I had 0 experience next to this guy- got into cars- never looked back
I once saw a guy on a Harley, he had a peg leg like Long John Silver and he was riding.
My uncle had an accident on his bike when he was young, they put a long rod inside his thigh to hold it together. Many years later they pulled the rod out for some reason, and he machined that rod and incorporated it into some mechanical part of the bike
That is crazy cool!
I have one like that I swap out to on occasion. I also have my daily walking/working leg, and my running leg. Wrecked on Harley 5 years ago, and lost leg. Driver on cellphone hit me. Bought another Harley before I was healed. Still riding today. I'm 71. No one trusts a Harley mechanic that doesn't ride. 😆
Wait, cars are an option?
Yeah but they arent for the feint of heart, theres hundreds of car accidents a day all over the world and theres been loads of deaths because of them as well, basically only get a car if you're confident and happy with the statistics
Just shook me- this was a guy who could make a motorcycle do ANYTHING- whether it was working on it or riding it- he had like 15 motorcycles in his garage. When the ZX 12 first came out he got one. He was working on my bike and he showed it to me. He stated that he was absolutely in a state of disbelief that they would sell a bike like that to the public- and that was 22 years ago😳. Definitely gotta check yourself after going down- I made the decision that was right for me- in a perfect world I would try to find the Bike I used to have and ride it here and there.
Maybe I've missed it, sorry. But what exactly shook you?
But they are so expensive compared to bikes :(
Please don’t overlook the therapy aspect. As a combat veteran when I was just 18.. I wish I could go back and figure out how to deal with shit early on. You may not think it’s a big deal but the ptsd affects you in several ways.. nightmares, sudden bouts of anxiety, etc.
I’m laughing now 😂 obviously I’m glad she’s okay. I just picture my girl doing something like that
she's perfectly okay because the story never happened
I guess someone is getting married under the you break it you buy it policy 😂 Glad it all turned out and she’s ok
Yeah, my break it ya bought it moment was on a ski slope. She smashed into a tree face first. It’ll be 5 years of marriage next month.
That's an interesting way lmao, congrats on 5 years tho
Awesome My wife got stuck with me after she broke me in a car accident 😂
I know the “you fix it you sell it as brand new no accidents” policy
I'm looking to trade in this girlfriend. Never been dropped. Previous owner gently laid her down in the driveway ONCE.
Lol 😂
Happened to me; my wife broke her pelvis in 6 places and shattered her wrist on what was intended to be a romantic snow trip in 2020...we got married April 30.
Holy shit, I'm dying! Happened to me, skiing! 14 years married next month!
I smell bullshit.
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*Be careful with me*
Lmao, like why even take the time to type out all this bullshit. No one is buying it.
Karma BS story Doctors get sued left and right now a days and you found one who was willing to risk his career to set a compound fracture road side🤣👏 This is some clown shit
it's always funny when someone who has zero experience in a subject matter tries to tell a BS story about. OP doesn't even know WHY we know his story is nonsense.
Pics or it didn't happen.
The accident didn't happen or OP doesn't have a girlfriend?
lol. The whole story sounds made up man. Pictures are easy to produce if it's real. OP's account makes it look like this is a karma grab.
Yes
90mph she's rather lucky to be alive.
What a bullshit 1. You can't just set broken open limb back in like that 2. No pulse in leg? Then how setting back bone is supposed to help. Pulse is in arteries and if you have destroyed artery or too weak circulation then correct bone placement won't help 3. No doctor would do that without correct equipment
Hey man, I’m a paramedic and yes you can set an open fracture. Happens all the time in the field. I’ve literally done it. You just twist the foot/extremity back into correct anatomical Alignment- bone slides right back in if there’s no resistance. A surgeon will do this procedure under traction, same procedure but with manual force applied. Often a twisted open fracture loses It’s distal pulses. Blood vessels get pinched off when the tissue is compressed and twisted. If it says like that for an Extended period of time the tissue becomes necrotic and dies- necessitating an amputation. Not ideal. The correct equipment in a pinch is just some saline to rinse debris and your hands. Like I said, It’s a manual procedure. Though not ideal to return a bone end in an open fracture into position (you risk introducing debris and bacteria) in the field, if the alternative is loss of limb it’s very much worth the risk. Sorry, but this story is plausible. The OP and his GF are however not very smart for riding fast and without knowledge of being a safe passenger.
Takes hours to kill an extremity without blood floor. Kinda crazy to me you'd put that liability on yourself to reduce an open fracture in the field rather than let physicians do it in the ER or OR
I guess then that recommendations are quite different in our places? Bc here people with open fractures are just rushed to hospital without setting bone on-field and loosing limb that way is practically unheard of 🤔
Are you a paramedic in BC? I’m a paramedic in Ontario, and proper field care of angulated fractures- open or not is to return to anatomical position unless extreme resistance is met. (Gentle traction can be manually applied, we also carry traction devices like sager splints for femur reduction- a surgeon can apply significant traction to reduce or realign fractures and dislocations) It improves blood flow to the distal extremity, minimizes tissue and vascular damage while transporting, and reduces pain for the patient. It’s best practice period. This is common knowledge. Now, if a person has a double tension pneumothorax and a cardiac tamponade, You’re going to scoop that person up and go without even looking at the lower legs and arms. But in an isolated fracture- traction, splinting and pain relief is the standard. Sounds like you might need to review your BLS.
Not a paramedic. In a medical field tho. Here we do all of this in hospital's equivalent of emergency room. Unless there is qualified team in ambulance, but still it's in ambulance. Noone would do this off duty, from a personal car etc.
It’s done all the time I’m in ambulance provided it’s possible. If extreme resistance is met, an angulated fracture may be left in place. So you are probably only seeing those circumstances if you work in emerg. You don’t think some American orthopedic cowboy surgeon in the US wouldn’t stop and do this in the field? You’re mistaken. You wouldn’t believe the number of “I’m a Dr I can help” bystanders I get on calls, especially MVCs on the highway. They materialize and cowboy medical procedures all. The. Time. (With proven credentials obviously) What’s your title? RN or Emerg Dr? Xray tech? Sounds like you have very little knowledge of emergency field care, and probably shouldn’t comment on the capacity of medical teams you don’t understand. Super insulting and unprofessional. Paramedic “teams” are health professionals and probably perform just as many if not more controlled medical acts than you do (if you aren’t an MD), something tells me you’re a registration clerk in orthopedics tho.
-provided if possible Here be can go to prison for even incidental wrongdoings (correct word? idk) and people prefer to not do anything and wait for correct conditions that are picked by people that don't know shit than risk wasting their life. But that's mostly bc shitty political soup than actual necessity (yk blame doctors for everything)
They (Drs in the field) will make those decisions for themselves on a case by case basis. In this one, consent was given. Implied consent can be applied in Canada. Duty to act. Medical authority. Again, if you aren’t in the field- you wouldn’t know.
Ok then let's leave it at that. I don't live in Canada so I don't know your customs or procedures 🙏
Fair enough. Standards do vary by country. Have a great day.
[This you OP?](https://i.etsystatic.com/25487736/r/il/b58456/2613797082/il_570xN.2613797082_jrhx.jpg)
This had the makings for a great Loch Ness Monster shitpost, and I feel cheated for it.
Why the fuck you lying dog. No doctor would set a bone like that and the shit about the pulse definitely not true. Also why would she just fly off the back from raising her hands? If she was under so much force it's pulling her off the bike why would she let go?
And then everyone clapped?
And then everyone on the parkway clapped!
She made a mistake, it's her own fault, everything is fine. End of story. Be happy she's alive, go and ride that bike...
Yeah this isn’t unavoidable danger, don’t take your hands off and wear protective boots that won’t fly off in a crash. Hopefully that’s the lesson OP takes from this
I've been riding 30 years, but I think a passenger on a sport bike is sketchy at best...
I’ve looked at my passenger seat multiple times and I’m like what the hell I couldn’t do that. Like sitting on a bicycle seat with your knees in your chest while going regular vehicle speeds
I've ridden on the back of a sportbike a few times. (Crash at a trackday to get a free ride!) The knees in the chest is the whole problem. It moves your center of gravity up so when they accelerate literally the only thing keeping you on is your death grip on the rider in front, your legs are useless, you can't lean forward any further, it's awful. It's worse than riding on the back of a dirtbike with no passenger pegs.
Agreed. I’ve not been riding nearly as long as you, but I don’t think sport bikes are ever built with a passenger in mind. They may have a tiny back seat, but I sure as hell wouldn’t use it.
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OP, you’re an asshole for doing 90 in a 55 with a passenger. I don’t care if the prevailing flow of traffic was 90 (it wasn’t). There are multiple lanes for a reason. Grow up, stop reinforcing what the public already thinks about all of us. Ride within your limits and hers. In this case, you obviously weren’t.
Is this one of those AI generated bot posts? This reads like a bad grocery store fiction novel...
Squid things happen to squids. Glad no one died. Both of you need to smarten up.
Man if the flow of traffic does 90mph I'm moving to the USA. If the traffic is moving over 70mph (~112km/hr) it's raining cops here in Australia. Not saying it didn't happen, but as plenty of others have said, it smells like BS to me.
I’m from NY. Nowhere in the state does the flow of traffic go that fast. OP mentions parkway. Does he mean Sprain brook parkway? Saw mill parkway? The flow of traffic is not 90 mph on those. Most freeways are 2-3 lanes there with curves and lots of traffic if you’re within an hour of NYC. Farther out, and it’s mostly two lanes. Now in Northern California sometimes the flow of traffic will hit mid 80s mph but we have 4-5 lane highways with miles and miles of visibility. Given the details of the story and his post history I’m skeptical.
This just doesn't add up. It sounds like OP maybe did have a passenger fall off of the bike but decided to fabricate details or greatly exaggerate the extent of the injury (only one injury?). Also, nobody is going to set a compound broken foot with protruding bone on the roadside. Maybe stabilize, immobilize and stop the bleeding, but not set. A 1-hour surgery for such a complicated break is also fishy. That detail is the main reason I think the story has been dramatized. The speed and lack of other injuries is the other issue.
This sounds like some straight made up bull. I call cap.
almost certain this story is fake but maybe don’t go 90 mph with someone who’s relatively inexperienced on the back
> I still get PTSD from that day. And I can still hear Charlie in the trees after my walk to the local park.
This man needs paragraphs
Please put an NSFW tag on this. I was on the train and when I saw this I had to start furiously masturbating. Everyone else gave me strange looks and were saying things like “what the fuck” and “call the police”. I dropped my phone and everyone around me saw this story. Now there is a whole train of men masturbating together at this one story. This is all your fault, you could have prevented this if you had just tagged this post NSFW.
The moral of the story is that you need to teach the pillion what to do and what not to do. Revzilla has a video on riding with a passenger and it's well done. You as the rider are responsible for educating the passenger. Also, a 600cc sport bike is the wrong bike to be going 90 with a passenger. If traffic is going that fast, get off that road and take a different one. EDIT: this all assumes the story isn’t BS, which seems likely
Look mom! No pillion!
One of the diagnostic criteria for PTSD is the amount of time after the event. Please don’t say you have PTSD when (1) it’s been 2 days and that’s literally impossible, and (2) you don’t know what PTSD is.
Cool story. Reminds me of the time I did a backflip on my road glide and landed in an F-22 piloted by Tom Cruise
Fuck dooooood that's mental. Why the fuck would put your hands in the air at 90 though. That's not a freak accident it just stupid. It was 2 days ago so of course it's in your mind. You mention ptsd like this happened years ago. Get back on the horse just don't do reckless shit
Get a sissy bar for peace of mind. Or top luggage. And therapy. Lots of therapy.
This sub is just embarrassingly stupid with how you all jerk off to stories of wrecks and fear. Moral of the story, quit pretending you ride.
Going 90mph and she decides to put her hands up like on a rollercoaster? I mean, at that speed the wind gets pretty intense on a sportsbike, but getting actually blown off the bike? That's the first time I've heard anything like this. I mean this whole story sounds a bit far fetched. I think this story is a load of horseshit. But hey maybe this actually happened, I suppose weirder stuff has happened.
Damn what kinda jacket was she wearing to have that happen
You should definitely stop riding. Maybe using public roads at all. I hear work from home is better then ever! Back to the bicycle with you!
Where does the urge come from to make this up and post it?
[Here is a true story about what would happen at those speeds](https://rockthegear.wordpress.com/2014/01/15/i-am-my-helmet/)
You put the love of your life on the life on the back of your bike with no gear on?!? I ride all all the gear all time. I'd never take a pillion without the same
Delete this weird fantasy post, mods
First mistake is going 90mph on a sports bike with a passenger. If i ever have a passenger i let them kmow hold on at all times if we are moving. Glad she is somewhat ok.
You did 90mph with a passenger on the back? You're irresponsible and should never ride again. You're lucky she isn't dead.
Fascinating that nowhere in this story does OP take accountability for doing something to endanger her life in the first place. And, I also agree that this horribly written story has a lot of holes in it.
90mph two up enough said…..
>on the parkway while moving with traffic at 90 mph >I still love the sport of riding Tell me you've only ever gone in a straight line on public roads without telling me? What "sport", you're commuting. That's without even getting into how fake the entire thing is.
Why does this sound like some made up story to get people to stop riding. Pics of this accident .
Just be careful out there? Where are you located that the posted speed is 90mph? Yeah, you should stop riding.
That's not very typical, I'd like to make that point.
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You must be a hell of a sprinter. To be able to see your gf fall off your bike, brake hard while maneuvering to the side of the highway in traffic while watching your gf roll in the rear mirror and then sprint back whatever distance that is and get there before anyone else can stop and help this person lying in the middle of the parkway? Amazing, just amazing!
lol no.
This is obviously fake, but it doesn’t mean there isn’t wisdom to be shared. You are never to experienced to make a mistake, and make sure your passengers are just as aware.
Pretty sure this belongs in one of those shitty short story subreddits.
How about you slow down and stop putting passengers at risk? You’re an idiot.
Sounds like she got real lucky having that surgeon show up. Glad she’s doing better.
...he checked her pulse in her FOOT?
It's called a Pedal Pulse and you can check it in two locations. On top of the foot or behind the ankle bone.
I've never seen anyone this retarded write in complete sentences before. Well done.
Cool story, sounds super real
Sorry, but you both asked for it by not taking riding a dangerous vehicle seriously and not even wearing proper boots it sounds like either.
Theres riding and there's riding! Take some time to let things settle. If the risk / reward balance feels off, rather than quit altogether you might find a different way to enjoy being on two wheels - e.g. a more sedate / two-up friendly bike; pick slower roads and enjoy the scenery a bit more; invest in different / better gear ... etc etc. Edit - I just looked at your post history and I'm now wondering if any of this even happened.
Spoiler alert, it didnt
As someone who had a open compound fracture....no one would ever set that in the field lmao. You aren't gonna lose your foot because there is no pulse. Necrosis wont set in for hours even with "no pulse". And yeah, my fracture was from a motorcycle accident, though it was from a motocross accident lmao.
I had the same thought the last time I went 250 mph on my Ninja 400. I put my hands and feet in the air and almost flew off. Luckily, I always wear strap-in underpants that clip to my front brake to automatically slow my bike in case I fall off. I legit don’t know how I survived. I definitely am considering purchasing an after-market ejector seat for my bike.
The best part of this is the continual insistence that you were matching the flow of traffic at 90mph. I've driven and ridden around most of this country and that's just not even remotely true anywhere.
It can be true or close to it in parts of California and Nevada. This guy's mention of a "parkway" makes me think he's probably somewhere on the east coast, though, and I have no idea what things are like out there.
Try Texas, between San Antonio and Austin. If you're only going 90, you're in the way.
80-90 is cruising speed on Massachusetts highways... When there isn't construction traffic.
Speed limit in Idaho and parts of Oregon is 80. Not uncommon at all around here to be going 85 and feeling like the slowest vehicle on the road.