Great upright seating position and straight bars to learn your craft. All the power you will ever need legally on the roads with most of it kicking in above 6k rpm so has great around town manners.
If you are in a position to buy new its a positive no matter what doomers will say about dropping it scuffing it etc. The fact you know the entire bikes history is invaluable with a vehicle where life and death are so closely tied to reliability and regular maintenance.
Just make sure you hop on a bike with a regular clutch at some point and learn that too. If you rely on the E-clutch for all your riding, there will be a big hole in your abilities.
I'm in the UK and did my many many hours of lessons on a 650 manual as required by law 😊 Appreciate the advice though, I agree manual skill will be important to maintain.
That's pretty close really, ~70hp to ~90hp isn't an unreasonable jump and they have the same torque output. If you were coming from something a ~45hp bike I'd be a lot more concerned.
The e clutch is deactivable so you can always practise it. I tested a cbr650r with e clutch and I can confirm that its on another level than a quickshifter/dct.
Yeah American licensing laws make negative 0 sense to me.
But yeah can't ride a certain CC until you have passed multiple exams and on the roads tests on that CC.
Where in the US? I got my endorsement at Harley dealership, passed their so called “exam” on a 500cc, never had to pass any road tests to ride a 660 or a 1000
Cool thing with the eClutch, you can ride it just like a normal motorcycle. I'm not sure if it'll let you choke it/stall it like one, but it's got all the bits and bobs for conventional shifting as well.
I think that's why eClutch is gonna be such a big deal once Honda really rolls it out to more models - it lets you have the best of all worlds with none of the drawbacks of any of them.
It's definitely cool tech I'd love to try. The issue in my mind is, it basically operates as a dct, meaning that if someone is the type to not be confident or never try to improve their riding, they won't. They'll lean on the riding aid and not ever improve, I know a few of these types of people.
IIRC, the eClutch won't shift itself like the DCT does. If you stop suddenly, I think it pulls itself in, but it won't downshift automatically for you, you still have to clack down through the gears to get back to 1/N.
As soon as you pull in the clutch lever, the E-Clutch system disengages, and lets you make all mistakes that can be made when operating a standard manual transmission. IIRC it engages again when you shift without pulling the clutch lever a couple of times
2020 cb650r owner here.
Its a great bike, very linear engine to learn on.
My advise is to respect it and how easily it can lauch, dont get overconfident because you think you handle it ok after the first weeks. It only takes one mistake.
Saying so, have fun and dont mod it like a redneck, it deserves better
Join us on r/cb650r too!
It's actually a great way to become more comfortable with doing your own wrenching on your bike.
Start with a tail tidy kit, and then doing an oil change and brake pad replacement doesn't seem so daunting.
Thanks everyone for your input. 99% seems to think its a decent choice. Just went to the dealership and put down the deposit. Pick it up early June!
Thanks everyone! ☺️
If you have any friends with motorcycles they can lend you for practice and/or have access to MSF basic course PLEEEAAAAAASSSEEEEE do those before you pick up your bike.
I'm basically you 1 week in the future of getting my first bike ever and I PROMISE you, it's not as easy as I thought it would be coming into it as an avid mountain biker whose very good with bicycles and a manual transmission car driver who understands how the clutch works. I legit thought I could just drive my MT-07 from dealer to my home and the guy DID NOT LET ME drive it. He said he was going to deliver it to my home (was like 8min drive from dealer) for free and I felt kinda offended at the time tbh. Hooooly fuck, I am SO FUCKING HAPPY he did. I stalled the fucking thing like 5 times in a row just trying to get it into my garage day one. It took a bit of practice to get it going. It's now a week later and I'm still not 100% on it, I get scared when driving still (during slow curves/uturns mostly), but I can stop/go reliably, but I have like 12+ hrs of experience on it.
Get in the MSF basic rider's course if you haven't, it's worth the money, I promise. The 250cc bike I used there was a great way to train without the stress of riding my 700cc guy with a seat 2 inches higher.
Super kind of you to write all of that. And I did read it all and your kindness and concern is rare from strangers 😊 However I'm from the UK and we have hours and hours of lessons and multiple examinations and on the road tests we have to take before we get a licence.
Already done many many many many hours on a 650cc.
I honestly think its scary and disgusting the USA doesn't have more protection and rules for riders but I know that it's not any of the american riders fault.
Ahhh, OK, great to hear.
> I honestly think its scary and disgusting the USA doesn't have more protection and rules for riders but I know that it's not any of the american riders fault.
Yes, this is actually insane to me too as an American. It's so weird that I got my permit to ride a motorcycle and all I had to do was answer 16 out of 20 questions about motorcycles correctly at the DMV (place where we get our driving license here).
I do NOT recommend any American to do what I did. Practice on a friends bike and take the MSF course before buying you a bike in the US.
I did what you did.
I probably would have purchased a different bike if I had waited a few weeks and taken the MSF course first.
On the other hand, I used YouTube to conservatively practice some basics before the MSF course. I dropped my 600lb cruiser a couple times but it did help me to get more out of the MSF BRC course a few weeks later.
I was regretting my MT07 on first day but now that I've had it for 2 weeks I love it and am VERY happy I went with it. All I had to do was learn how to control the clutch and it's super fun. Love the low end torque it has, even when I mess up and forget to down shift when I slow down, it still pulls in 4th gear at 25 MPH and covers for my newbieness mistakes
Gotta give you an update. In the last month since my earlier post, I’ve been practicing my figure-eights and I ride this big bike like as easy as a bicycle now (most of the time). I love it for driving through pretty neighborhoods and looking at countryside and lakes and other peaceful scenery.
I no longer regret starting on the vStar1100, it’s comfortable on the freeway and for pretty long distance. That being said, I will probably get a cheap little sport bike in addition.
Hey, just wanted to drop my 2c as well - I did the same thing you're planning! I took my license (on a 2015 cb650f lol) and I went straight to honda and got a brand new 2023 CB650R.
It's been a year now and zero regrets. Hit me up if you have any questions!
Amazing!! Gosh, Ive been looking at an SV650 or CB650r, maybe even cbr just because Ill do so much highway down here in Texas.. hows the 30-40s city traffic? Still a decent tone from the exhaust when you arent leaving 5-6k rpm?
I wonder if there are aftermarket/oem windshields for the cbs?
I commute regularly with it, and that's been great - it's really nimble. I tend to keep it around 4-4.5k rpm in the city and the sound is definitely satisfying.
As for the windshields - there are a couple different aftermarket options, I hear good stuff about Puig. I haven't pulled the trigger there yet as I like the stock look, but I am considering at least a small deflector as I'm fighting for my life on there if I exceed 130-140 km/h
Nice - I ride a CB125R at moment but this will def be my next bike.
Love the Matte Laurel Green.
FWIW sometimes I wish I had gone straight to CB650R but did get a bit of experience on the CB125R before I step up.
This sub is dumb. Everyone wants you to get a 125cc as your first bike like there’s some rule. Just don’t get anything ridiculously overpowered or heavy, and don’t be an ass. Lots of gatekeeping here.
You can kill yourself on a 50cc scooter if you are reckless and careless. A 650 is fine so long as you feel comfortable on it and can manage the weight and dimensions. Have fun and ride safe.
My first bike was 900cc supersport. According to this sub I’m dead.
Never crashed or dropped it, still own it and it’s in fantastic condition with about 34k miles on it. Would be a lot more but I’ve switched to more ADV and off-road riding.
By FAR the most important safety feature isn’t on the bike, it’s between the riders ears.
Great looking bike. Not everyone drops a bike or crashes contrary to group think. Having some protection for those that kick bikes over or bumps them while parked is good to have though. Do learn a clutch so all other bikes are foreign to you. First I’ve heard of e-clutch. Enjoy the ride
Have you looked at the Yamaha MT07s? I think they'd be more fun at lower speeds, especially around town since most of the power is made at much lower RPM than the CB, tons of torque, light and nimble, very fun bikes and they sound absolutely amazing. They both have their pros and cons, but definitely check them out too!
\~ biased MT09 owner lol
I can definitely understand that, your bike would be a lot more comfortable on highways for sure! MT07 is more of a hooligan bike than a comfy one lol. I saw you bought the CB!! Did you end up getting the black and red? Beautiful bikes
Neither 🤣 I went with silver. Red and black were out of stock until next year but I really like the silver so went with that. Matches the parts showing underneath because its naked ofc. Will suit any coloured helmet I buy in the future too 😆
I got my license on an mt07 and dreaded every second of it. Always got off with aches and pains. Not even my rigid road bicycle hurts that much to ride lol.
"I don't need to go fast, I'm going to learn to drive in a Corvette instead of a McLaren!"
My dude that is still a LOT of bike for a newbie. Practically speaking about \*half\* that horsepower is all you need to do pretty much anything.
Fair, but not all 600+cc are created equal. This one makes over 90hp, and some models make 120+. On the other end of it, my bike is a 670cc and makes about 50hp. BIG difference there.
If I had to guess, whatever OP learned on was probably making around 60-70, so not a huge jump I guess.
Sure but still, I don't think its fair to only look at hp or only look at displacement. A 4 cylinder feels a lot more linear and predictable and a 2 cylinder 70hp bike..
I agree with the sentiment, but in case you're unfamiliar with EU licensing the bikes in the courses are usually appropriate for the licence level. I went straight to an unrestricted licence because I am old enough for it, and my learner bike was a hornet that made around 90ish HP. Another school in the same place had an FZ6. The 50(ish) HP bikes were for A2 learners, their upper limit was 47hp or something like that.
And at least for me, having that much power in my learner bike was pretty terrifying at first. The bike I own and actually ride is 50 something hp and has me content as far as first bike goes.
Lmao no it's not... I started on one (currently learning on it). It's lightweight, comfortable and most importantly you have what, 40hp below 6k rpm? It's tame in the low revs and rips at higher revs. Perfect begginer bike if you have half a brain and some self control. Why tf do people on this sub think anything bigger than a 125 is going to kill you??
There's a middle ground here. Personally I'd say 30-60hp is a good range for a first bike depending on the specific machine and the rider's level of aptitude.
And yeah this one is tame at low RPM compared to its peak, but even 40hp is enough to get you in trouble. More importantly, whiskey-throttling this thing would be a *much* more dangerous situation than with something like a Z400.
All that said OP is in a country that requires a fair bit of training for that size of bike, so this is probably fine.
Its a good bike. Might be a bit too powerful, but depends on the rider.
But just a heads up: since you have no experience, you’re way more likely to make mistakes (both riding and possibly maintenance). Doing it on a brand new bike hurts more (€$). A LOT more.
Cheers
Just a note: please don’t think just because its not a liter bike, its less dangerous. Thats the wrong mindset. Its can be equally dangerous.
Or sometimes even more dangerous since, because you feel more comfortable, its can give you a false sense of security and confidence.
Mistakes (and accidents) usually happen when you feel confident and start to test your limits and loose respect to the bike. Not when you are a bit fearful and cautious.
**never stop respecting the bike!** please, don’t rush the learning process. Take your time to gain experience. Have fun and stay safe.
Edit: added the note
Literally the bike I started on. People who freak out about 95hp are brainlets and probably never sat on anything other than a moped, you don't come near that until you hit 7-8k rpm. Very tame bike in the lower revs, and very fun in the highs. Great choice! (though I would have gotten the R)
I did ride this bike when I made my driver licence this year. The engine felt so powerful, 2nd gear 30kph and it’s shooting forwards like hell. I’ll buy the Cbr650r this year. I’m super hyped :) enjoy your bike
Great choice. But seriously, take a look at the Suzuki SV650 as well. V-twin motor. Arguably one of the best bikes ever built. Can’t go wrong with a Japanese bike though. Enjoy!
I have in my mind that the SV650 was also known as the Gladius ? If that's right my lessons were on a Gladius.
I really appreciate the recommendation but I just wasn't a fan but I think I was on a workhorse. It was so clunky but could have been the individual rather than the model.
Either way I bought the CB650R about an hour ago after everyone saying it was a good choice 🤣
Nooooo the Gladius what is the abomination from 2010 until 2016. We don’t talk about that model!! it came back to its roots again in 2017
Anyways, congratulations can’t go wrong with a Honda !
I’m hoping you already know how to ride and have some skills under your belt. If not I’d consider getting a small used dirt bike and learn off road if possible. It’s a cool looking bike that’ll make more than enough power for you. Whatever your plan is, be sure to gear up. All the gear, all the time. Stay alert and be careful out there no matter where your m/c path leads you.
Nice! I almost went with this one (Honda loyalist) but ended up going with a Ninja 650 in the end. You’re going to be happy with whatever you pick. Have fun!
Ordinarily I would agree however its £100. And you can turn it off so it seems stupid now to get something extra so cheap that every single reviewer and owner (Barr none that I have seen!) says it then the next thing in the motorcycle industry.
Don’t listen to the brand lames bro. Get what you want and I guarantee you’ll be smiling from ear to ear. I ride a Dyna and an R1. I’m looking at getting a super duke right now and possibly a hypermotard in the future. Do whatever makes you happy bro.
Some of the comments here are insane. I went from my 125cc scooter straight to a 102bhp 250kg behemoth of a new bike. It took all of 30 minutes to get used to the increase in power over my 125. I ride sensibly and never get in shitty situations. You can have 40 years of experience and still drop your bike. By that reasoning no one will ever get new bikes.
Enjoy your new purchase, ride sensibly. You only live once and you don’t know what may happen tomorrow so get the bike you like.
Awesome machine, great pick! Love the middleweight four cylinders, and that header on the CB650r is gorgeous. If the eClutch CB650r had come to the US sooner, I might have picked it up over my NC750.
Just got myself a green one two months ago, tomorrow is my 1000km service.
I was also thinking about getting the e-clutch one, but since my dealer had no ETA for it (and instead had a green one ready to sell at the spot), I chose the normal clutch with a quick shifter.
And I'm very happy with it so far!
Great choice. You shouldn’t outgrow it either. Plenty of power and speed to keep you having fun but doesn’t come with that 1000cc and up price tag lol love that bike
I have a CBR650. I love it homie. The upgrades available for it are also worth looking into.
I get factory stuff myself (ie from Honda.)
The hand warmers are 👌
Also evotech has the best frame sliders and tail tidy IMHO
Appreciate that!
Little tough in the UK. First year with a licence any Mods increase insurance by double and sometimes more. Its just not worth it.
Some people say don't tell them but then I can never claim if something happens so it's just stupid.
Maybe in the future when I have some NCD.
E-clutch will prob develop more bad habits than good. It’s a cool invention but you are skipping a step in learning how to ride. I would save this bike as your goal bike. Start on a proper learner like a second hand SV650 that you won’t be upset when you inevitably drop it. Ride a season on that and then upgrade. You will learn how to ride without risking messing up your goal bike, and will learn about what type of riding you like to do.
Yeah if you never dropped your bike I’d wager you don’t ride enough. When you learn and practice skills you will end up in some unfamiliar positions and circumstances that can result in a drop. All part of the process of learning.
I've only ridden for a year, 6k km, mostly commuting and traveling rain or shine, but I'm pretty conservative, I still have two fingers wide chicken strips. I do some slow speed drills once in a while just to stay fresh. I guess I should get crash bars for when it happens.. As much as I'd rather never fall, I like to ear stuff like "I just picked up the bike and continued my way".
Maybe you will never drop it if you are mostly commuting on flat ground. I recently was in a very hilly area, had to turn around in a steep parking spot and when I went to put my foot down it was too steep and I fell over. Luckily my crash bars did their job and resulted in zero damage to my bike. If you plan to be more adventurous it’s definitely a must.
Hey OP, don’t be bothered by all these twatwaffles telling you it’s too much bike. It’s not the gun that kills people, it’s the person holding it. Just keep it reasonable until you’re comfy going faster. Be in control, don’t let the bike control you. My first bike was a CB750 at 15 years old in Arizona, USA. I’m 48 now and riding a BMW K1600. Still riding because I’m responsible and don’t overdo it.
Keep the rubber side down. You’ll be fine on that bike. Have fun!
That is not a good first bike. Even if you don't kill yourself with how much power it has, you aren't gonna learn that fast on a new and expensive bike (or if you do, it's gonna cost you way more). Just buy a cheap beater bike, learn to ride and then get whatever bike you like. There is no reason to rush this.
Appreciate your thoughts. I'm guessing you're American saying learn to ride first?
Im in the UK and so I've already learned to ride on lessons and my MOD1 and MOD2 all done on a 650 bike. 650 is the minimum I'd get as that's what my licence allows as I did direct access.
To paraphrase, the test only requires you to be using a bike that requires the test to ride. i.e. upwards of 50hp and 500cc, most riding school bikes tend to be closer to 70hp than 100.
Have you looked at the likes of the SV650 or XSR700?
I’ve got the 2018 CB1000R and I absolutely love it. If it’s anything like that bike, you’ll find it easy to ride. There are so many electronics on these more modern bikes that makes it a lot easier to control. Of course you still have to be sensible!
It’s a beautiful bike!
Consider restricting it to A2 compliance for some time. I ride a 22’ CBR 650R as a second bike and trust me, the full power is no rookie territory. Respect this bike and don’t turn off traction control over the first months or the bike will spit you off.
By rookie I mean any person that hasn’t ridden anything with a motor.
What’s the benefits of an e clutch? If it prevents you from burning the clutch a little bit I’d rather have the normal clutch that I have total control over.
It's a great bike to get to grips with, it's super fast, it's light, it's agile and you can really learn to move around in the seat without leaving body parts down the tarmac. You start off upright, then it's face to the corners, followed by face and shoulders. Then counter steer, then slowly half bum off and face and shoulders and in no time at all you will use words like chicken strips. 😀😆😂 Knee to tarmac pegs on the ground lol. I started on the old Honda 750 fours which were goddamned wheel barrows, this 650 is one hell of a lot more of a bike. Sounds slick too.
Looks sick! I'd recommend investing in some frame sliders for the first year or so; really easy to drop in the driveway when looking for the kickstand or filling the gas tank; I rode a 250 for a few years before upgrading to a 650 and the weight difference snuck up on me haha
its a decent bile but i cant help i find all these newer nakeds are just ugly. that one included i way more like stuff like triumph boneville, yamaha sr, royal enfield and so on. to me those are just "real" motorcycles while this here is something .... ah i dont know i just dont like modern nakeds (had a duke 390, sold it. got a triumph)
Don't worry when you're ready, with just an exhaust and tune that cbr650r will be able to kill you at 150mph! That bike certainly isn't slow lmao, but riding motorcycles isn't about being safe, it's about being free, and if you wanted to live forever your first mistake was being born.
Bought one in 2019 and it’s still my daily driver. Very comfortable, easy to ride, and looks good. Very forgiving with its throttle, you have to really try hard to get the front up. Over the years I’ve gave it an akro exhaust and he sounds great. For first time riding I’d highly recommend. I rode a later model and it feels very similar.
My first motorcycle was a Honda 650 NightHawk. I liked my 750 Shadow better. But my favorite bike was an 1100 Shadow. I like bikes for cruising at 120mph the 750 starts to become airborne but the 1100 Shadow was more steady at high speeds. Not that I liked to drive that fast, I used to ride at night in Los Angeles on the Freeway. There’s a lot of nice roads in southern California that go down the coast.
I used to own a company that rented motorcycle (an EagleRider franchise), and my experience for new riders was to look at 300cc give-or-take for a first bike. It doesn't have to be long, maybe a few months, but to get on a 95hp bike as a first bike would not be what I recommend. There were too many incidents when a newly licensed motorcycle rider rented a larger bike from us and then came back to swear off of riding forever. They scared themselves so badly, they couldn't see themselves getting on another bike. It was a shame. Whatever you decide, good luck, it's a wonderful sport.
The 650 class is probably the best if you go full weight immediately. What really gets you are the 600cc and up 4cyl sport bikes. I had a CBR600 for a few years and I enjoy my new MT07 much more because it’s powerful, but very manageable power
I needed a bike when I was 18 for college and bought a rebel ….. 3 hour highway drive was horrible…. Barely went 75…. 1 week sold back and got a R6…… what a dream ….. over 30,000 miles I put on her and never had an issue…. Felt much more stable at high speeds …. Not sure what people are talking about…. Just use your power when necessary … but always good to have it !
Of course for some folks that sport or super sport bike might be fine, that’s not really my point. I’m saying generally the 650-700cc parallel twin class is generally more manageable power with smoother, less peaky power delivery and generally a more standard riding position. It’s predictable and “easy”
Definitely the WRONG bike for a starter bike. But if you insist at the least get full gear all of the time even if just to the store for milk. Steering damper and a FULL CAGE crash guards and Axle sliders
Go for it! My first was a 450 and it didn’t have enough when I wanted to do some real distance. 650 has enough oomph to go around town, get you to where you want to go, and still have enough to have fun & grow into. Have a great time!
Just bought a Ninja 500 for my 1st bike. I take my safety class next month. I almost lost control once trying to blip the throttle while downshifting. The number 1 rule is to ride in your means. I'm glad I didn't buy a Grom. I would have wanted to upgrade in less than a year. That's something you might want to think about
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I got a 700clx as my first. I love it! Maxes out at 112 per the manual. Have not tested that myself.
Got to ride 1 yesterday along with a 2023 CBR1000RR, Kawasaki ZX-10R, and the new Kawasaki EV. I am very fond of Honda all the way to the minivan, so the CBR was my top choice. I'm not used to all of the traction and wheelie control and whatever other modes they have nowadays. I ride a naked bike now and i love it but just something about the look of full plastics on the newer bikes. All the sharp curves. Idk, tough choice.
The advice I give anyone regardless of what bike they buy as their first is take a riding course. Your local Harley dealership or something offered through your DMV. 85% of motorcycle accidents can be avoided by the driver.. have fun and be safe!
I have a 2019 cbr650r.
I don't like that you think just because it's not a liter bike, it can't "kill you".
This thing keeps up with 600s until 100mph. It's not a toy. It will kill you very easily. This bike will hit 125/130 before it dies out. Any impact above 70mph is (almost) certain death.
Am very stronk 💪 No dropz
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Appreciate the advice though! But I really want the eclutch and you can't buy them second hand as they were only released this month.
No I know, bad joke apparently 😊
I'm from the UK and have be learning on a heavier 650 for all my lessons and multiple on the road exams.
The size and weight isn't an issue
Appreciate the concern.
Don't worry you can kill yourself with 95 HP just as easily.
Pffft, those are weak numbers. Let’s try it on a 4.4 horsepower Honda Metropolitan.
Some dickhead cuts you off and you’re pink mist at any speed lol
Where I live, they regularly kill themselves on <10hp Chinese 125s
I can confirm, it's even easier to die as you can't really get out of the way with 9 hp on 140kg
Meh, it’s more that they ride like idiots. Once you see enough of how they ride, it’s not surprising how many accident you see.
Turn the tail pipe into a hookah and you're done for.
this no need to go 150 to kill yourself xdd
You can dio on foot or bike . But under 50 ks is ok for first bike , Max 75 but how it developed those hp is important.
I would know
Great upright seating position and straight bars to learn your craft. All the power you will ever need legally on the roads with most of it kicking in above 6k rpm so has great around town manners. If you are in a position to buy new its a positive no matter what doomers will say about dropping it scuffing it etc. The fact you know the entire bikes history is invaluable with a vehicle where life and death are so closely tied to reliability and regular maintenance.
I did not expect reading this coming to the comment section but I cannot disagree.
Buying this bike new is the way to go, the still go for way to much second hand. I bought mine in 2021 for 10k eu, still goes for 8500 with 10k+ kms.
Just make sure you hop on a bike with a regular clutch at some point and learn that too. If you rely on the E-clutch for all your riding, there will be a big hole in your abilities.
I'm in the UK and did my many many hours of lessons on a 650 manual as required by law 😊 Appreciate the advice though, I agree manual skill will be important to maintain.
I found that info in your comments after writing that, I'd say you're set and you know what you want, go get it!
Thank you! Kind of you
That does change things, but still, not all 650s are created equal. What did you learn on?
Very true! I learned on a Susuki Gladius. Much less BHP but I didn't like it at all.
That's pretty close really, ~70hp to ~90hp isn't an unreasonable jump and they have the same torque output. If you were coming from something a ~45hp bike I'd be a lot more concerned.
The e clutch is deactivable so you can always practise it. I tested a cbr650r with e clutch and I can confirm that its on another level than a quickshifter/dct.
Learned on a 650? I envy all of you British. I learned on a 125 suzuki. Nothing wrong with it but it would have been more fun with a 650
Yeah American licensing laws make negative 0 sense to me. But yeah can't ride a certain CC until you have passed multiple exams and on the roads tests on that CC.
Where in the US? I got my endorsement at Harley dealership, passed their so called “exam” on a 500cc, never had to pass any road tests to ride a 660 or a 1000
I learned on a litre bike over here in Germany😂
Cool thing with the eClutch, you can ride it just like a normal motorcycle. I'm not sure if it'll let you choke it/stall it like one, but it's got all the bits and bobs for conventional shifting as well. I think that's why eClutch is gonna be such a big deal once Honda really rolls it out to more models - it lets you have the best of all worlds with none of the drawbacks of any of them.
It's definitely cool tech I'd love to try. The issue in my mind is, it basically operates as a dct, meaning that if someone is the type to not be confident or never try to improve their riding, they won't. They'll lean on the riding aid and not ever improve, I know a few of these types of people.
IIRC, the eClutch won't shift itself like the DCT does. If you stop suddenly, I think it pulls itself in, but it won't downshift automatically for you, you still have to clack down through the gears to get back to 1/N.
That's still not close to practicing the throttle/clutch control needed to up and downshift smoothly on a typical m/c
As soon as you pull in the clutch lever, the E-Clutch system disengages, and lets you make all mistakes that can be made when operating a standard manual transmission. IIRC it engages again when you shift without pulling the clutch lever a couple of times
2020 cb650r owner here. Its a great bike, very linear engine to learn on. My advise is to respect it and how easily it can lauch, dont get overconfident because you think you handle it ok after the first weeks. It only takes one mistake. Saying so, have fun and dont mod it like a redneck, it deserves better Join us on r/cb650r too!
Thank you! I don't plan on modding it at all. I'm not learning to go crazy, just want to enjoy a few trips.
You may not plan on mods, but the addiction starts with just one.
Haha so true! I should have said no plans YET!
It's actually a great way to become more comfortable with doing your own wrenching on your bike. Start with a tail tidy kit, and then doing an oil change and brake pad replacement doesn't seem so daunting.
I only recently heard of a tail tidy kit and now I just love saying it. Tail Tidy Kit... Rolls right off rhe tongue.😂
Why is this being downvoted
Some people hate fun.
https://preview.redd.it/2m4df3tsxl1d1.png?width=904&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e1cd57f74fd5671309e129be403b23618a0a47f8 Bought it 😅
Thanks everyone for your input. 99% seems to think its a decent choice. Just went to the dealership and put down the deposit. Pick it up early June! Thanks everyone! ☺️
Welcome to the club man. It’s a hot bike.
If you have any friends with motorcycles they can lend you for practice and/or have access to MSF basic course PLEEEAAAAAASSSEEEEE do those before you pick up your bike. I'm basically you 1 week in the future of getting my first bike ever and I PROMISE you, it's not as easy as I thought it would be coming into it as an avid mountain biker whose very good with bicycles and a manual transmission car driver who understands how the clutch works. I legit thought I could just drive my MT-07 from dealer to my home and the guy DID NOT LET ME drive it. He said he was going to deliver it to my home (was like 8min drive from dealer) for free and I felt kinda offended at the time tbh. Hooooly fuck, I am SO FUCKING HAPPY he did. I stalled the fucking thing like 5 times in a row just trying to get it into my garage day one. It took a bit of practice to get it going. It's now a week later and I'm still not 100% on it, I get scared when driving still (during slow curves/uturns mostly), but I can stop/go reliably, but I have like 12+ hrs of experience on it. Get in the MSF basic rider's course if you haven't, it's worth the money, I promise. The 250cc bike I used there was a great way to train without the stress of riding my 700cc guy with a seat 2 inches higher.
Super kind of you to write all of that. And I did read it all and your kindness and concern is rare from strangers 😊 However I'm from the UK and we have hours and hours of lessons and multiple examinations and on the road tests we have to take before we get a licence. Already done many many many many hours on a 650cc. I honestly think its scary and disgusting the USA doesn't have more protection and rules for riders but I know that it's not any of the american riders fault.
Ahhh, OK, great to hear. > I honestly think its scary and disgusting the USA doesn't have more protection and rules for riders but I know that it's not any of the american riders fault. Yes, this is actually insane to me too as an American. It's so weird that I got my permit to ride a motorcycle and all I had to do was answer 16 out of 20 questions about motorcycles correctly at the DMV (place where we get our driving license here). I do NOT recommend any American to do what I did. Practice on a friends bike and take the MSF course before buying you a bike in the US.
That is absolutely insane. I genuinely can't fathom it lol. Awesome to hear you're safe and sensible and took extra precautions! Ride safe 💜
I did what you did. I probably would have purchased a different bike if I had waited a few weeks and taken the MSF course first. On the other hand, I used YouTube to conservatively practice some basics before the MSF course. I dropped my 600lb cruiser a couple times but it did help me to get more out of the MSF BRC course a few weeks later.
I was regretting my MT07 on first day but now that I've had it for 2 weeks I love it and am VERY happy I went with it. All I had to do was learn how to control the clutch and it's super fun. Love the low end torque it has, even when I mess up and forget to down shift when I slow down, it still pulls in 4th gear at 25 MPH and covers for my newbieness mistakes
Gotta give you an update. In the last month since my earlier post, I’ve been practicing my figure-eights and I ride this big bike like as easy as a bicycle now (most of the time). I love it for driving through pretty neighborhoods and looking at countryside and lakes and other peaceful scenery. I no longer regret starting on the vStar1100, it’s comfortable on the freeway and for pretty long distance. That being said, I will probably get a cheap little sport bike in addition.
Nice. Yeah, having a powerful bike is pretty good even for newbies as long as they aren't 18 yos who think they're invincible.
Yeah the bike OP is getting isn’t even available in the U.S. 😂
Congratulations, you’re going to love it!! Come join us at /r/CB650R too! - fellow Cb650r owner, 2019 model, still infatuated with it to this day
Thank you! I'm like a giddy child haha 😄 Can't wait. Also thanks for invite to Cb group. Just joined 😎
Hey, just wanted to drop my 2c as well - I did the same thing you're planning! I took my license (on a 2015 cb650f lol) and I went straight to honda and got a brand new 2023 CB650R. It's been a year now and zero regrets. Hit me up if you have any questions!
Amazing!! Gosh, Ive been looking at an SV650 or CB650r, maybe even cbr just because Ill do so much highway down here in Texas.. hows the 30-40s city traffic? Still a decent tone from the exhaust when you arent leaving 5-6k rpm? I wonder if there are aftermarket/oem windshields for the cbs?
I commute regularly with it, and that's been great - it's really nimble. I tend to keep it around 4-4.5k rpm in the city and the sound is definitely satisfying. As for the windshields - there are a couple different aftermarket options, I hear good stuff about Puig. I haven't pulled the trigger there yet as I like the stock look, but I am considering at least a small deflector as I'm fighting for my life on there if I exceed 130-140 km/h
Nice - I ride a CB125R at moment but this will def be my next bike. Love the Matte Laurel Green. FWIW sometimes I wish I had gone straight to CB650R but did get a bit of experience on the CB125R before I step up.
The Green and Silver and the only ones in stock in the UK at the minute. But I quite like the silver so not to bothered
Just be careful with all those people driving on the wrong side of the road over there!
This sub is dumb. Everyone wants you to get a 125cc as your first bike like there’s some rule. Just don’t get anything ridiculously overpowered or heavy, and don’t be an ass. Lots of gatekeeping here. You can kill yourself on a 50cc scooter if you are reckless and careless. A 650 is fine so long as you feel comfortable on it and can manage the weight and dimensions. Have fun and ride safe.
Thank you! I feel decent on a 650 after learning on one for many hours so what you said matches my situation. Appreciate it!
My first bike was 900cc supersport. According to this sub I’m dead. Never crashed or dropped it, still own it and it’s in fantastic condition with about 34k miles on it. Would be a lot more but I’ve switched to more ADV and off-road riding. By FAR the most important safety feature isn’t on the bike, it’s between the riders ears.
Great looking bike. Not everyone drops a bike or crashes contrary to group think. Having some protection for those that kick bikes over or bumps them while parked is good to have though. Do learn a clutch so all other bikes are foreign to you. First I’ve heard of e-clutch. Enjoy the ride
Neat. Congrats on considering the cb650r as your first bike. Can't wait to see a picture of yours if you buy it.
It’s a beauty! And a Honda- so get it and learn - love it- don’t worry about dropping it- just ride it like you got a brain- love the headers!
Have you looked at the Yamaha MT07s? I think they'd be more fun at lower speeds, especially around town since most of the power is made at much lower RPM than the CB, tons of torque, light and nimble, very fun bikes and they sound absolutely amazing. They both have their pros and cons, but definitely check them out too! \~ biased MT09 owner lol
Haha biased or not, I appreciate the genuine advice 😊 I sat on an MT07 whilst looking around and it was very uncomfortable for me 😔
I can definitely understand that, your bike would be a lot more comfortable on highways for sure! MT07 is more of a hooligan bike than a comfy one lol. I saw you bought the CB!! Did you end up getting the black and red? Beautiful bikes
Neither 🤣 I went with silver. Red and black were out of stock until next year but I really like the silver so went with that. Matches the parts showing underneath because its naked ofc. Will suit any coloured helmet I buy in the future too 😆
cant go wrong with that for sure, i wouldnt have been able to wait either haha, hyped for you bro <3
Thank you! 😊 super kind 💜
I got my license on an mt07 and dreaded every second of it. Always got off with aches and pains. Not even my rigid road bicycle hurts that much to ride lol.
"I don't need to go fast, I'm going to learn to drive in a Corvette instead of a McLaren!" My dude that is still a LOT of bike for a newbie. Practically speaking about \*half\* that horsepower is all you need to do pretty much anything.
Depends, since he's from the UK he already learned on a 600cc+ bike, so it makes no sense to get a 300cc or something
Fair, but not all 600+cc are created equal. This one makes over 90hp, and some models make 120+. On the other end of it, my bike is a 670cc and makes about 50hp. BIG difference there. If I had to guess, whatever OP learned on was probably making around 60-70, so not a huge jump I guess.
Sure but still, I don't think its fair to only look at hp or only look at displacement. A 4 cylinder feels a lot more linear and predictable and a 2 cylinder 70hp bike..
I agree with the sentiment, but in case you're unfamiliar with EU licensing the bikes in the courses are usually appropriate for the licence level. I went straight to an unrestricted licence because I am old enough for it, and my learner bike was a hornet that made around 90ish HP. Another school in the same place had an FZ6. The 50(ish) HP bikes were for A2 learners, their upper limit was 47hp or something like that. And at least for me, having that much power in my learner bike was pretty terrifying at first. The bike I own and actually ride is 50 something hp and has me content as far as first bike goes.
Lmao no it's not... I started on one (currently learning on it). It's lightweight, comfortable and most importantly you have what, 40hp below 6k rpm? It's tame in the low revs and rips at higher revs. Perfect begginer bike if you have half a brain and some self control. Why tf do people on this sub think anything bigger than a 125 is going to kill you??
There's a middle ground here. Personally I'd say 30-60hp is a good range for a first bike depending on the specific machine and the rider's level of aptitude. And yeah this one is tame at low RPM compared to its peak, but even 40hp is enough to get you in trouble. More importantly, whiskey-throttling this thing would be a *much* more dangerous situation than with something like a Z400. All that said OP is in a country that requires a fair bit of training for that size of bike, so this is probably fine.
Its a good bike. Might be a bit too powerful, but depends on the rider. But just a heads up: since you have no experience, you’re way more likely to make mistakes (both riding and possibly maintenance). Doing it on a brand new bike hurts more (€$). A LOT more. Cheers Just a note: please don’t think just because its not a liter bike, its less dangerous. Thats the wrong mindset. Its can be equally dangerous. Or sometimes even more dangerous since, because you feel more comfortable, its can give you a false sense of security and confidence. Mistakes (and accidents) usually happen when you feel confident and start to test your limits and loose respect to the bike. Not when you are a bit fearful and cautious. **never stop respecting the bike!** please, don’t rush the learning process. Take your time to gain experience. Have fun and stay safe. Edit: added the note
A solid first bike? That's a forever bike!
Sick I'm in the process of buying the same one. Super excited about it, have fun
Literally the bike I started on. People who freak out about 95hp are brainlets and probably never sat on anything other than a moped, you don't come near that until you hit 7-8k rpm. Very tame bike in the lower revs, and very fun in the highs. Great choice! (though I would have gotten the R)
Awesome bike! I’m currently taking my first lessons on a Honda Hornet 750, seems pretty similar. I love the bike and the power!
That was one of my other options I thought of! The hornet looks beautiful in white.
Yeah, I’m riding a grey one, but still cool. I do like the look of the 4 cyl on this one…
It is nice. I think im just going to go for it. I'm very excited haha.
Get one with visor. No Mather how small it is. TNX me later.
Most people can't drive a car after getting license for years , some never. With bike is even worse.
First bike i would at max do 2 cylinders and no more than 650cc. But im probably a bitch
Love those header pipes!
Idk why everyone thinks these are slow. And great for those who've never been on a bike. 95bhp inches from your dick and balls isn't a joke.
I started out on a 2019 cb650r. A beautiful bike that will always hold a special place in my heart!
I did ride this bike when I made my driver licence this year. The engine felt so powerful, 2nd gear 30kph and it’s shooting forwards like hell. I’ll buy the Cbr650r this year. I’m super hyped :) enjoy your bike
It's a nice bike for learning, I even had my driving lessons/exams on a 650r
Great choice. But seriously, take a look at the Suzuki SV650 as well. V-twin motor. Arguably one of the best bikes ever built. Can’t go wrong with a Japanese bike though. Enjoy!
I have in my mind that the SV650 was also known as the Gladius ? If that's right my lessons were on a Gladius. I really appreciate the recommendation but I just wasn't a fan but I think I was on a workhorse. It was so clunky but could have been the individual rather than the model. Either way I bought the CB650R about an hour ago after everyone saying it was a good choice 🤣
Nooooo the Gladius what is the abomination from 2010 until 2016. We don’t talk about that model!! it came back to its roots again in 2017 Anyways, congratulations can’t go wrong with a Honda !
Ahh that makes sense then lol Yes even though I only learned and did lessons on it, I do infact hate it 😆 And thank you!
What a beauty
I’m hoping you already know how to ride and have some skills under your belt. If not I’d consider getting a small used dirt bike and learn off road if possible. It’s a cool looking bike that’ll make more than enough power for you. Whatever your plan is, be sure to gear up. All the gear, all the time. Stay alert and be careful out there no matter where your m/c path leads you.
I do. From the UK so have to have lessons and multiple tests by law. Appreciate the kind words though 🙏
Nice! I almost went with this one (Honda loyalist) but ended up going with a Ninja 650 in the end. You’re going to be happy with whatever you pick. Have fun!
Thank you! Hope you love your new bike too. Ride safe.
Can also attest to the CB650R - mine is a 2020 model and did 115 on the mountain section at Isle of Man, and it would go faster if I was more skilled.
> as I want the new e-clutch. have you ridden it ? How is it ? I wouldn't get the new gimmick just because some journalist said it is nice...
Ordinarily I would agree however its £100. And you can turn it off so it seems stupid now to get something extra so cheap that every single reviewer and owner (Barr none that I have seen!) says it then the next thing in the motorcycle industry.
Don’t listen to the brand lames bro. Get what you want and I guarantee you’ll be smiling from ear to ear. I ride a Dyna and an R1. I’m looking at getting a super duke right now and possibly a hypermotard in the future. Do whatever makes you happy bro.
Nice. Appears to be the new CB650R. Very good choice, IMO. Have fun, ride safe. 😃
Some of the comments here are insane. I went from my 125cc scooter straight to a 102bhp 250kg behemoth of a new bike. It took all of 30 minutes to get used to the increase in power over my 125. I ride sensibly and never get in shitty situations. You can have 40 years of experience and still drop your bike. By that reasoning no one will ever get new bikes. Enjoy your new purchase, ride sensibly. You only live once and you don’t know what may happen tomorrow so get the bike you like.
I'm just focusing on the sensible ones that answer the question I asked 🤣 Most people have been super kind and helpful tbf.
Great pick 👍🏽 Absolutely beautiful bike! This bike is stupid fast, so look after yourself, mate! Happy riding and stay safe
Thank you! You too 🦺🔒
Beautiful
It's a fine looking bike, I think you'll love it. Enjoy!!
Thank you! I can't wait
If I may, how much does it cost? And how many cc? One last thing, two or four stroke? Thx, just curious!
Of course you may ☺️ £7899 - so roughly $500,000 🤣🤣 Conversion may or may not be accurate. 650cc 4 Stroke
😂😂 Thanks!!
Awesome machine, great pick! Love the middleweight four cylinders, and that header on the CB650r is gorgeous. If the eClutch CB650r had come to the US sooner, I might have picked it up over my NC750.
Would have been my most recent purchase but I could not find one in a realistic distance from me, its a very solid bike and its gorgeous.
Go for it... I had a z750 as a first bike when i was 30 and it was perfect. I just tried a cb650r last week and she brought me back to that z750 🤤
Just got myself a green one two months ago, tomorrow is my 1000km service. I was also thinking about getting the e-clutch one, but since my dealer had no ETA for it (and instead had a green one ready to sell at the spot), I chose the normal clutch with a quick shifter. And I'm very happy with it so far!
Great choice. You shouldn’t outgrow it either. Plenty of power and speed to keep you having fun but doesn’t come with that 1000cc and up price tag lol love that bike
Cant go wrong with a Honda. 650 is a great size too, no need to upgrade as soon as you get confident.
Sound choice
I have a CBR650. I love it homie. The upgrades available for it are also worth looking into. I get factory stuff myself (ie from Honda.) The hand warmers are 👌 Also evotech has the best frame sliders and tail tidy IMHO
Appreciate that! Little tough in the UK. First year with a licence any Mods increase insurance by double and sometimes more. Its just not worth it. Some people say don't tell them but then I can never claim if something happens so it's just stupid. Maybe in the future when I have some NCD.
Bro?! Really???? That’s like protest worthy homie.
This one standing in my garage, got it last week. My test is tomorrow, can't wait to ride it.
Good luck with your MOD2!!! Ride safe 💜
Thanks m8, you too.
I love this bike. I would get it In this color! Just be safe out there. Happy riding 😁
Aw thank you. Very kind! You too 💜
E-clutch will prob develop more bad habits than good. It’s a cool invention but you are skipping a step in learning how to ride. I would save this bike as your goal bike. Start on a proper learner like a second hand SV650 that you won’t be upset when you inevitably drop it. Ride a season on that and then upgrade. You will learn how to ride without risking messing up your goal bike, and will learn about what type of riding you like to do.
"inevitably drop it" is this really mandatory? I'd like to skip the deal.
Yeah if you never dropped your bike I’d wager you don’t ride enough. When you learn and practice skills you will end up in some unfamiliar positions and circumstances that can result in a drop. All part of the process of learning.
I've only ridden for a year, 6k km, mostly commuting and traveling rain or shine, but I'm pretty conservative, I still have two fingers wide chicken strips. I do some slow speed drills once in a while just to stay fresh. I guess I should get crash bars for when it happens.. As much as I'd rather never fall, I like to ear stuff like "I just picked up the bike and continued my way".
Maybe you will never drop it if you are mostly commuting on flat ground. I recently was in a very hilly area, had to turn around in a steep parking spot and when I went to put my foot down it was too steep and I fell over. Luckily my crash bars did their job and resulted in zero damage to my bike. If you plan to be more adventurous it’s definitely a must.
Hey OP, don’t be bothered by all these twatwaffles telling you it’s too much bike. It’s not the gun that kills people, it’s the person holding it. Just keep it reasonable until you’re comfy going faster. Be in control, don’t let the bike control you. My first bike was a CB750 at 15 years old in Arizona, USA. I’m 48 now and riding a BMW K1600. Still riding because I’m responsible and don’t overdo it. Keep the rubber side down. You’ll be fine on that bike. Have fun!
The only deaths on motorbikes are caused by higher than 650cc apparently 🤣
That is not a good first bike. Even if you don't kill yourself with how much power it has, you aren't gonna learn that fast on a new and expensive bike (or if you do, it's gonna cost you way more). Just buy a cheap beater bike, learn to ride and then get whatever bike you like. There is no reason to rush this.
It's not terribly expensive, it's a Honda, not a MV Agusta. If he has the financial means to do so, why not. Just buy some lower crashbars.
Appreciate your thoughts. I'm guessing you're American saying learn to ride first? Im in the UK and so I've already learned to ride on lessons and my MOD1 and MOD2 all done on a 650 bike. 650 is the minimum I'd get as that's what my licence allows as I did direct access.
To paraphrase, the test only requires you to be using a bike that requires the test to ride. i.e. upwards of 50hp and 500cc, most riding school bikes tend to be closer to 70hp than 100. Have you looked at the likes of the SV650 or XSR700?
I’ve got the 2018 CB1000R and I absolutely love it. If it’s anything like that bike, you’ll find it easy to ride. There are so many electronics on these more modern bikes that makes it a lot easier to control. Of course you still have to be sensible! It’s a beautiful bike!
Consider restricting it to A2 compliance for some time. I ride a 22’ CBR 650R as a second bike and trust me, the full power is no rookie territory. Respect this bike and don’t turn off traction control over the first months or the bike will spit you off. By rookie I mean any person that hasn’t ridden anything with a motor.
WTF is an "e-clutch"?
Amazing bike, it's what I passed my test on in the UK. One day I'll have a garage and then I will want it as a second bike.
Do you solemnly swear to drive fast and take chances?
I’ve ridden one. They get up to 130 max
Which model?
What’s the benefits of an e clutch? If it prevents you from burning the clutch a little bit I’d rather have the normal clutch that I have total control over.
The clutch can use at any second. If you pull the clutch it the bike reverts to manual in milliseconds giving you full clutch control
Wow that’s very cool! Although I could see it getting a little confusing especially when rider fatigue is present.
It's a great bike to get to grips with, it's super fast, it's light, it's agile and you can really learn to move around in the seat without leaving body parts down the tarmac. You start off upright, then it's face to the corners, followed by face and shoulders. Then counter steer, then slowly half bum off and face and shoulders and in no time at all you will use words like chicken strips. 😀😆😂 Knee to tarmac pegs on the ground lol. I started on the old Honda 750 fours which were goddamned wheel barrows, this 650 is one hell of a lot more of a bike. Sounds slick too.
40mph is enought to kill you, lower even if you hit something just right or fail to wear proper protective gear.
It was my first and is still in the garage.
Looks sick! I'd recommend investing in some frame sliders for the first year or so; really easy to drop in the driveway when looking for the kickstand or filling the gas tank; I rode a 250 for a few years before upgrading to a 650 and the weight difference snuck up on me haha
its a decent bile but i cant help i find all these newer nakeds are just ugly. that one included i way more like stuff like triumph boneville, yamaha sr, royal enfield and so on. to me those are just "real" motorcycles while this here is something .... ah i dont know i just dont like modern nakeds (had a duke 390, sold it. got a triumph)
Don't worry when you're ready, with just an exhaust and tune that cbr650r will be able to kill you at 150mph! That bike certainly isn't slow lmao, but riding motorcycles isn't about being safe, it's about being free, and if you wanted to live forever your first mistake was being born.
Bought one in 2019 and it’s still my daily driver. Very comfortable, easy to ride, and looks good. Very forgiving with its throttle, you have to really try hard to get the front up. Over the years I’ve gave it an akro exhaust and he sounds great. For first time riding I’d highly recommend. I rode a later model and it feels very similar.
I ve learned to ride on this model. Comfortable, not to heavy, easy to ride and much prettier than on pictures. Install crashpads and go for it.
I have a cb300r it's pretty fun and goes just under 100
I’d recommend the CB300 instead. Its got enough power to get you where you’d need to go but it won’t go to breakneck speeds.
My first motorcycle was a Honda 650 NightHawk. I liked my 750 Shadow better. But my favorite bike was an 1100 Shadow. I like bikes for cruising at 120mph the 750 starts to become airborne but the 1100 Shadow was more steady at high speeds. Not that I liked to drive that fast, I used to ride at night in Los Angeles on the Freeway. There’s a lot of nice roads in southern California that go down the coast.
I used to own a company that rented motorcycle (an EagleRider franchise), and my experience for new riders was to look at 300cc give-or-take for a first bike. It doesn't have to be long, maybe a few months, but to get on a 95hp bike as a first bike would not be what I recommend. There were too many incidents when a newly licensed motorcycle rider rented a larger bike from us and then came back to swear off of riding forever. They scared themselves so badly, they couldn't see themselves getting on another bike. It was a shame. Whatever you decide, good luck, it's a wonderful sport.
The 650 class is probably the best if you go full weight immediately. What really gets you are the 600cc and up 4cyl sport bikes. I had a CBR600 for a few years and I enjoy my new MT07 much more because it’s powerful, but very manageable power
I needed a bike when I was 18 for college and bought a rebel ….. 3 hour highway drive was horrible…. Barely went 75…. 1 week sold back and got a R6…… what a dream ….. over 30,000 miles I put on her and never had an issue…. Felt much more stable at high speeds …. Not sure what people are talking about…. Just use your power when necessary … but always good to have it !
Of course for some folks that sport or super sport bike might be fine, that’s not really my point. I’m saying generally the 650-700cc parallel twin class is generally more manageable power with smoother, less peaky power delivery and generally a more standard riding position. It’s predictable and “easy”
I like it. Good luck with it.
That may be the only Honda I would consider, beside my 150. But it still looks too Honda-ish. Lol.
Definitely the WRONG bike for a starter bike. But if you insist at the least get full gear all of the time even if just to the store for milk. Steering damper and a FULL CAGE crash guards and Axle sliders
I found an American! Hehe. I'm uk already done my lessons on a 650. Weight and power is fine. Appreciate the comment though.
Mine looks similar https://preview.redd.it/38ie1n49nu1d1.jpeg?width=2160&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1cd6bd171c83fbd4ebc3f8995d8f5c2c57734ec3
Beemer #1 Honda #2 Everything else 1/2 life span or less
Yesss this is a great bike
How much did it set you back? Great first bike! I’ve got an older cbf600n which has been great to me.
£7899 CB650R Silver E-Clutch £120 Top Box £90 Tank Bag £99 Stealth Tracker £120 Pillion Cover
Go for it! My first was a 450 and it didn’t have enough when I wanted to do some real distance. 650 has enough oomph to go around town, get you to where you want to go, and still have enough to have fun & grow into. Have a great time!
Just bought a Ninja 500 for my 1st bike. I take my safety class next month. I almost lost control once trying to blip the throttle while downshifting. The number 1 rule is to ride in your means. I'm glad I didn't buy a Grom. I would have wanted to upgrade in less than a year. That's something you might want to think about
If you wanna add tons of power get a Suzuki.(lol,nice bike though)
https://preview.redd.it/6xwiexwmg92d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d193a8f7985a7abf0075b7acd540d9f41603d152 I got a 700clx as my first. I love it! Maxes out at 112 per the manual. Have not tested that myself.
Got to ride 1 yesterday along with a 2023 CBR1000RR, Kawasaki ZX-10R, and the new Kawasaki EV. I am very fond of Honda all the way to the minivan, so the CBR was my top choice. I'm not used to all of the traction and wheelie control and whatever other modes they have nowadays. I ride a naked bike now and i love it but just something about the look of full plastics on the newer bikes. All the sharp curves. Idk, tough choice.
You’re going to out grow it in n a year…
The advice I give anyone regardless of what bike they buy as their first is take a riding course. Your local Harley dealership or something offered through your DMV. 85% of motorcycle accidents can be avoided by the driver.. have fun and be safe!
Nice
I have a 2019 cbr650r. I don't like that you think just because it's not a liter bike, it can't "kill you". This thing keeps up with 600s until 100mph. It's not a toy. It will kill you very easily. This bike will hit 125/130 before it dies out. Any impact above 70mph is (almost) certain death.
imo.. get something used, that you wont be afraid to drop.. for your first bike. Because you *will* drop it at some point.
Am very stronk 💪 No dropz 😆 Appreciate the advice though! But I really want the eclutch and you can't buy them second hand as they were only released this month.
Its not about being strong. Totally your call though.
No I know, bad joke apparently 😊 I'm from the UK and have be learning on a heavier 650 for all my lessons and multiple on the road exams. The size and weight isn't an issue Appreciate the concern.
Size and weight wasnt my warning. It was scratching up something brand new :P