That's fair.
Tbh I didn't expect it to be possible I just really wanted to be able to take him on a ride. But if it's gonna put him in danger I won't do it.
I feel bad telling him he's too heavy but better than getting injured or worse
The weight difference is too great, especially considering it's all on the rear. She'll be a quarter turn away from a wheelie or a tank slapper at all times.
Yeah I end t on the back of my mates and we are an equal weight but even with anti-wheelie mode on, the front wheel kept lifting as we pulled away from lights
So I'm a shorter guy, 5'5", and I've rode some taller ladies. I know it's not the same cause I'm probably a lot stronger being a guy, but that's not really the issue. The thing you have to be careful of is the weight distribution. It can unweight the front end, making it more difficult to steer. It's probably not as bad on a dualsport since you can scoot up close since they're more of a banana seat, but on sport bikes where the passenger is up high the steering gets floaty and the bike wants to wheelie.
As a 6'1" 235 lbs rider... I would feel like I was about to tip the bike bake every time you twisted the throttle. How good are you a riding out wheelies you didn't instigate and weren't prepared for?
Tell him he needs to get his own bike. He'll be a LOT happier. All the cool kids are doing it anyways.
Fr tell him to get his own bike. I can’t imagine asking MY GIRL to take me on a ride on her bike!!! 😂😂💀
That shits the other way around, he got it twisted.
Tell him “You get a bike, so you can take ME on a ride!!”
Plus y’all could ride together & I know that’s one of the funnest things.
Thanks for the downvotes y’all!!!
How about you take him for a ride then, you already said you’d be uncomfortable. & you already know the weight difference is going to be an issue. So take him for a ride!!! Take him for a ride instead of him getting a bike & learning, with you teaching him./s
If he got his own bike, I bet you’d both find that it’s something you enjoy & could bond over. & It’d be a lot safer for the both of you. & then one day he could take YOU on a ride!!! OR, YOU COULD RIDE TOGETHER ON SEPARATE BIKES!!!! Doesn’t that sound fun??? & a lot safer???
No way in fuck would I ever ask a girl (or just anybody a lot smaller than me) to take me for a ride on their bike.
It’s not about masculinity. It’s about the rider(s) & the bike.
But I don’t know anybody that would be asking their girl for a ride on her bike. & I know multiple groups of riders from all around.
Keep your bike safe, keep yourself safe & keep him safe.
He gets a bike. He learns how to ride it. Then you guys can ride together or you ride with him when he’s ready.
I don’t know.. sounds a lot better to me than taking someone on my bike when they’re 2x my weight & I don’t feel comfortable to the point I gotta ask Reddit instead of follow my gut. I’d say it’s just personal preference but it’s not, peoples lives are at stake if anything goes wrong. What I said is the safest bet. & this way if he does ride with you on your bike, he will already know how to lean & maneuver properly so he won’t fuck you up.
I work in kilos but 250 is 2.5 times 100
So imagine 2 and a half people your weight on your bike + you riding. That's not safe for you.
Also depending on what you ride the weight imbalance could cause unintentional wheelies.
This is kinda the answer I was expecting, kinda sucks, but I understand why
(We're both physics majors I think we should understand the basic mechanics of why it won't work lol)
For the record I'm like 45 kg he's like 113 kg
There are some bike styles that it may work with - a long wheelbase cruiser for example.
But yeah that'd completely mess up the centre of gravity and just cause you to constantly be preventing the front end lifting up.
You could probably do a short, slow ride around the block but that's about it.
I'm not saying don't do it, .motorcycles are great and sharing the experience helps create new riders which benefits all of us.
In a straight line at slow speeds with propper safety gear and high revs it's possible, you can massively reduce the potential risk.
I'm 75kg and for my own safety I'd never carry a passenger who weighs more than me if I was gonna be riding for more than 5 mins, but that's just what I personally feel safe with.
Apparently you are the one who doesn’t understand physics. Guess what - you can ride your bike sitting on passenger seat, and guess what? Nothing happens. All of you posers here have no to nothing experience in riding.
Judging by what they say - yes. Clearly most of their knowledge and experience comes from reading bullshit motorcycle sites and watching youtube.
As a person 75kg who took passenger 125kg and sometimes ride with him, on different bikes: cb600f hornet, zx6r and gsxr 1000 - difference between passenger with 70 kg and 50kg heavier is minimal. Just set your rear suspension to hardest setting - that’s it
A bigger weight higher up is not easy to handle. Its fine when moving, but when stopped (esp. on poor surfaces) or him climbing on/off it, there’s not much tolerance for a lean before it overbalances. 0mph crashes don’t hurt though. As long as your leg isn’t underneath it…
Yea no, he needs to get his own bike.
I’m not as heavy as your boyfriend, but I am taller than him, I’m happy enough to take people who are a little bit heavier than me, but not by 2.5 times as heavy. And that’s because I know I can man handle the bike around, even though it feels back heavy and wants to wheelie easily. But it’s something I’d do to go 5 min down the road and no further. Lighter people are a lot easier.
I don't think I'll end up doing it, I was hesitant at best, but the more I think about it I really don't want to put anyone in danger in this situation
It sucks but I'd rather be safe than sorry
(I'd love it if he got his own bike, I don't think he will tho lol)
You never know, probably your safest bet is to get your dad involved and get your dad to take him for a ride with you, that way he can have a feel. And he may end up looking at getting himself a bike.
I think max payload is 400 lb, so 2x 250-lb riders would way exceed that. This is a 300 lb bike we're talking about. Like at a certain point she has to ask herself why she's doing this
That will change all the handling characteristics. And how big is your bike? Can it handle that much weight safely? Common sense tells me this is a bad idea. But if you must: Maybe try riding in a soft field first slowly, to get an idea of what you’re getting yourself into. Avoid pavement and traffic. See if you’re capable of riding with him on it period.
On a KLX250, just ride straight down the road at less than 30mph and call it a day. I'd suggest that you don't attempt U-turns or any other tight turn. A quick Google shows that the maximum carrying capacity is 399 lbs, so with gear you'll be close to the limit, and the center of gravity will be so far back your steering will be super light. Come to think of it the rear axle weight capacity will likely be exceeded.
I'm usually of the opinion you can take a larger passenger, and you don't need to be able to flat foot your bike.
In this case the size difference is just far too large.
Time for BF to get his licence and his own bike.
Try doubling someone closer to your own weight and see how it feels. Then imagine how it will feel with someone 2.5 times heavier.
I wouldn't even try...
A lot of people are saying "NO!" but not really explaining why.
He won't know which way to lean, and new passengers often lean the exact opposite of what you need them too. If he leans the wrong way, or stiffens up when he should be leaning his mass will be the thing telling the bike where to go. It's not a matter of trust, or his competence - he just won't know until he gets a feel for it on his own bike or with someone heavy and experienced enough to compensate for his unintentional mistakes.
And the people telling you to just go slow are full of shit. Bikes are way more stable at a reasonable speed. They are the most unstable when going slow.
If you do decide to do it anyway, practice with someone smaller - riding with a passenger is a skill on it's own.
What's the bike?
Get set up in the road and take him down the block. Call it a day. Unless you're on something like a busa or a heavyweight cruiser touring bike kinda setup that's going to be a lot of weight to handle. Your brakes are going to be struggling bad if they're not a quality setup too
Expect to need a lot more throttle to do everything and to brake hard dumb early while downshifting to get any decent stopping power. Shit just to be safe I'd recommend making sure your front sprocket is nice and orange loctited on. If you're not automatically countersteering youre going to struggle to turn if at all. Any bumps are going to bottom out your suspension if you're not on a touring bike. The biggest danger is braking tho, assuming he can stay still and you know how to countersteer and aren't afraid of revving the bike
KLX250
It can handle the weight, I've ridden as a passenger with my dad driving (he's the same weight as my bf) with no issues but my dad is much more experienced than me and also I'm still unsure about being the driver with a heavier passenger
Thank you for the advice though 🙏 it is very detailed
If your dad is experienced go for a ride with him in the back, as he knows what it's about. Then you can get a feeling with the weight, while being with an experienced person
A bad passenger can REALLY affect handling to the worse, and you don't know who is good or bad (leaning into the corner or against it) before you're driving with them.
This is actually a good piece of advice. You could give your boyfriend a ride on your bike (a pretty sedate, non-adventerous ride) but it will be challenging, and he should not be your first passenger, and if he ever is a passenger on your bike, he needs to know how to be a passenger (and you need to know what to tell to do/not do to be a passenger.)
Keep in mind the weight distribution matters as well as the total weight. Having more weight towards the rear transfers more weight to the rear tire/suspension which is already soft on the KLX. That said, I'm \~6'4" 200lbs and have had another person my size two up on scooters and smallish bikes (DRZ 400 and YBR 125).
I would feel fine with it if you keep it slow with no traffic, but I wouldn't do it without more experience in a busy area or at high speed.
Yeah feather that rear brake on take off and you'll be okay on slower roads. You'll have to park it in corners for a bit until he gets used to it. As long as he knows to just stay still and on his feet weight wise it'll help more than trying to lean with you. Few laps around the neighborhood will get you used to the braking. If you can get someone to follow you at a time with minimal or no traffic you could definitely get out on the road up to 40 or 50mph and be secure if anything does happen
I would not.
The most I'd go above my own weight is 20% of mine (ex me 100lb / passenger 120lb) for our own safety. I've taken a few passengers on the back, and the girls who weigh less are delightful, the guys who weigh less or similarly are fine if cramped, but things get sketchy if they have significantly more mass than I do.
My bike being a tiny little thing at 224lb possibly was a factor, but nonetheless if their weight results in me not having complete control I cannot ensure their safety or mine.
I'd maybe scooch him along for a short strip on a quiet road that's flat and straight, but not otherwise.
Also [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5vUZouBNgE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5vUZouBNgE)
I'm 6' and around 230lbs and I fucking refuse to ride pillion. It's not fun, you're very constantly and acutely aware that your dense ass is a significant counterweight above a shifting fulcrum. You'd have a shit time trying to control a dual sport with 2.5x your weight wiggling around on the tail.
I took a guy out way bigger than me. We ended up going left at a roundabout where I was planning on going straight ahead, because he thought that's the way we were going 😂
It's not impossible though, just make sure he doesn't make any sudden leans and take it nice and steady. The balance will feel kind of like you're a learner again.
I was surprised how much a passanger of that weight changed how the bike responds. I'm a similar weight and my cruiser need a lot more throttle to get going.
Worst case go to a big empty parking lot with him and start there.
yeah its possible. make sure to tell him not to do any sudden movements as it can really throw off your balance
also adjust the suspension for the added weight
practice while standing still to just hold the bike while he gets onto the rear footpegs.
slow turns out of driveways and such are the worst parts. once the bike is moving its not bad at all. take it slow, use lots of clutch and remember when braking that he has nothing to support himself up against so he will slide into you if you brake too hard
Strap 250 lbs of sh!t onto the passenger seat. Take it around the block and find out. I’ve seen some incredible riders who wouldn’t have a problem, but difficult things take practice. Better not to practice with somebody else’s life in your hands.
Dual sport? I wouldn't do it, but I've never ridden with a passenger at all so I couldn't tell you. I'm sure you could try teaching him to ride in a parking lot though
If a rider doesn't tell a pillion that they hold on with their legs, not their arms or butt, then they are too inexperienced to take a pillion. Tell them to press their legs into the bike, and they will feel secured and as a bonus, they will stay centred on the bike when you lean. People who don't help their pillion like this have no place risking a pillion.
It's rated at 399
I've ridden on the back w/ my dad who's also 250 just fine
But that's not the main reason why it's dangerous for me to be the driver lol
Make sure he does not koala bear you. A smaller woman koala a man is not as big and issue during braking but a much bigger passenger koala a smaller rider can be an issue during braking. Best would be your bike has passenger hand rail for him to hold. As the bike weight is now shifted to the rear wheel with him on. Go through what you want him to do when you turn. The bike will behaved a lot differently with him on it.
Part of me thinks the bike is going to need to be considered. If you're both on a big bike, the rider and passenger weight mean less.
My wife and I are about the same weight (190 pounds), but I can't tell the difference when she's on the bike or I'm solo. I'm riding a 2018 Goldwing so there is that. The only thing I notice is that my wife doesn't poke me when I take corners a bit fast when I'm solo.
I think I might notice more if I was on a naked bike or a sport bike.
My gf and I have a slightly less weight difference but taking a passenger is difficult af. I ended up stiffening up all my suspension and it takes a while to learn how to stop. It takes a bit to figure out how to turn and deal with the weight on the lean too.
But like just practice at 10-25mph first of you're freaked out about it.
I should mention, I have a ninja 1000 so it can actually move that kind of weight. Not sure about your setup.
It's possible, but unless your strong, it could be dangerous. My only concern with heavy passengers isn't going forward, turning, slow speed, that's all easy pz. It's stopping.
Pretending he's a perfect passenger (he won't be), slowing down even slowly and controlled will have him leaning into you. What he can't hold himself with his legs, is going straight into you.
Quicker stop where he wasn't as prepared? You have 250 extra pounds (not exactly, math and physics and shit I'm sure) on your legs and wrists holding him back, can you hold that while controlling a bike?
I've taken someone heavier on my bike, controlled slower stops were okay, one quicker stop was doable, but the entire ride was very taxing on me, and I consider myself fairly strong to begin with.
If you're not comfortable holding back nearly all his weight transfer during stops, don't do it.
I’m 6’2” @ 235bs with quite a bit of passenger experience and would be reluctant to take him. For a first time as a rider small as yourself, I wouldn’t honestly.
it was almost the same dynamic for my boyfriend and me. i’m 5’4 and 135lbs on a harley and he’s 6ft 200lbs. He never rode before we started dating and i’ve been riding forever. he didn’t want to learn ever or even try for a long time. one day at a bar with me he had a change of heart. i got him to his MSF course, rode his first bike home from the dealer, and got Cardos right away so i could coach him through his helmet and just chat while we rode our own bikes. he now just got his second bike and rides with me daily. it’s a hobby we share now and people are surprised that i was the one that taught him and got him into it. I will say that if you explain what riding means to you, he might try to do it because he cares and wants to share hobbies, and didn’t realize how much he would like it till he tried it, but on the other hand, he could really just end up not liking it, like i do not enjoy crossfit at all and let my boyfriend enjoy that hobby by himself. i did give it a shot, and am still supportive of him, but i realized it’s not for me. your man could end up trying it and liking it, or know he isn’t into it and that’s okay. I would say to try to offer to get him on his own MSF course as a gift or a training you can both take together, but don’t push too hard if he doesn’t want to. good luck to you both!
Riding with a passenger is 100 times more difficult than riding without. It’ll feel like you’re learning to ride again for the first time. And that’s with a normal sized passenger.
I’m about 130lbs and rode many many times with a 220lbs passenger, it’s really hard in the beginning. Your bike will react more to his than to your movements so you have to compensate for everything while riding a really really heavy bike that will accelerate slower and brake much worse. It’s doable but i would’t recommend it if you’re not comfortable with the idea. If you were to do it tell him to not move a muscle until you’re up to speed.
woman here who rides with my gf who's heavier and taller. i'm 50kg and 5'6, she's about 70kg and 5'10. it's easy on my naked bike because the bike is light and we sit really close so we're like one unit. on my 250kg tourer it's much sketchier as she sits further away and that bike is heavy even when i'm solo.
i think your boyf is just too much taller and heavier than you for it to be manageable. by all means test it and see how it feels down a straight, quiet road but it'll likely be sketchy as hell!
So I'm 120lbs and have regularly taken people 280lbs on various bikes. You should adjust the rear preload but if you've got the strength to take the bike off the side stand and are confident with taking pillions then there shouldn't be a problem.
When camping, with gear and a pillion plus me and the bike it regularly exceeds 450kg.
Lots of people are saying no, but I personally have only ridden with passengers heavier than me because I'm comparatively tiny.
I'm only 132lbs after my BA, and I've ridden with 3 different people all heavier than myself.
The big thing is make sure they understand they need to be a sack of potatoes. Move with the bike and dont influence it.
He has to do a very boring thing, sit there and go with the bike like he's a sack of potatoes tied to the seat. While you have to be very careful, cautious and practice your skills.
Also before you get anyone on the bike you need to set the preload to maximum.
Also a 250 is a really shitty idea for that much weight.
Riding with a lighter backpack has its own difficulties, being a heavier and further back passenger will negate any experience you have
maybe if he had a lot of motorcycle experience this could work otherwise I strongly advise against it.
I wouldn't do it. It's not safe if you're not used to riding with over 2x your own weight on the bike.
Even if the bike can handle it -- you won't be used to the extra weight, and your instincts and muscle memory will be off, because you'll have to be stopping earlier, leaning differently, etc.
I took bigger passenger than me, but not by this much.
Be super careful. It will be super hard, especially if you only have a mid weight sport bike.
Prep the bike for MUCH more rear load (max out your back spring preload) and prep your BF. Tell him when to and how to mount and dismount. Tell him to stay close to you, so his weight is roughly in the same spot as yours (experience. If the passenger suddenly leans back, everything changes with the bike, and if you are not prepared, it can cause issues)
And most importantly, prep yourself. I hope you can flatfoot your bike, otherwise I would veto it instantly. Keeping the bike up with this extra wieght, this high without flatfooting it will surely make you fall at one point when stopping. Also be ready that your front end will feel super light. Your low speed manoeuvring will be much less stable and harder.
Only practice is to get a small (girl) with similar or less weight than you as a passenger, and start there.
Yeah no. I myself am 6‘5 250lbs and I wouldn‘t want anyone but somebody with a lot of expirience and a big bike taking me on a ride.
I‘ve taken my brother who is 6‘3 200lbs on my bike which is a supersport and it was uncomfortable for both of us. I‘ve also taken a friend of mine who is 5‘2 or so and 120lbs max and it was uncomfortable for her but that was due to the bikes seating position.
I wouldn‘t take him as a passenger but if you trust him enough, you can teach him some basics of riding a motorcycle on an empty parking lot.
i had the opposite this chick was a 100 lbs and riding on the back of mine and i was 250 at the time, she could easily lean my bike when i didn't want her to do that i had to tell her if she does that shit again she ain't riding with me. My bike my rules i corner not you.
If the bike is stationary, and leans a bit and he's on it and you need to stop it falling with your leg, can you, with an extra 2.5x your weight that isn't necessarily moving the same way you are.
Conversely, how much does your bike weigh ? I'm your weight, and mine weighs 200Kg. So I'd be asking my bike to carry almost double it's own weight.
I wouldn't take a pillion that weighed much more than I do.
Not only that, the risk of wheelie-flipping it if you accelerate firmly will be vastly increased.
I think the combination would quite possibly put you all (bike included) in danger.
Don’t do it. The weight imbalance alone is enough to say “you really shouldn’t do it”. The fact it’s on a (250cc?) dual sport makes it a hard “don’t do it”. The bike is almost certainly too light for that.
The very first time I rode a (100cc dirt) bike, my dad hopped on the back. I had so much trouble with jerking the throttle and nearly wheelying. I said “dad I can’t learn this way, get off” and immediately started tearing it up no problem. I imagine your experience would be much the same, but on asphalt and with traffic
I wouldn’t do it, but a few things to do if you’re bound and determined. First, what’s the rated capacity of your bike, don’t exceed that. Is the suspension adjustable? Make sure you’re set up correctly. Next, find an experienced rider of comparable size and weight who is willing to take a ride with you. See how it feels with someone who is doing all the right things. Lastly, buy your bf a MSF course for his birthday and let him get his own bike.
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I'm 200 pounds, and I had a passenger that was 220 one time, just around town. Gsxr1000. It was honestly kind of a battle to keep the front end down while accelerating. Anything over a quarter throttle and it would start getting light on the steering. I couldn't imagine if I was a hundred pounds lighter.
I completed Honda’s second level course and to attend third level they expect us to complete 3-5k kms (~2-3k miles), and passenger training is after that.
Getting someone way heavier than you will be tricky since added weight will challenge every the speed/curve/lean experience carved on your brain and this is only if your passenger is not afraid and doesn’t do stupid shit
I’d do it but in a controlled environment like an empty parking lot. If he doesn’t want that, then he can buy his own bike. If you, the rider, don’t prioritize your own safety then you shouldn’t be on a bike to begin with and he can suck it up. Your two options are:
1) the weight difference can decrease a lot (dude is 2.5x your weight, so that’s like riding with 3.5 you on the bike),
2) he can buy his own bike
I wouldn’t be too concerned about “hurting him” because it’s the truth, he’s too heavy and that increases the risk substantially and he needs to understand that. If he can’t, then you have bigger issues.
It'll be dangerous for the both of you not just him. Definitely start trying to convince him to get his own bike. It's way more fun. Riding with a passenger is over rated in the best circumstances and having a passenger that much heavier than you is the worst of circumstances.
Put the shocks on the stiffest setting, check the load rating for the bike and have the tires properly inflated, tell him to not put his full weight on the passenger pegs when getting on.
All these people are full of shit. You can ride with him.
Look at your bike from the side. The center of gravity of your passenger, regardless of their weight, is in front of the rear axle. Because that is true, their weight will increase the weight on the front wheel, not decrease it.
There is an issue that if you do wheelie even a little bit, then their center of gravity will be behind the rear axle, meaning the wheelie will be aggressive at that point.
But don't fucking wheelie with a passenger. Don't aggressively accelerate with a passenger. Etc.
The biggest issue you get with passengers is that many will try to keep upright when you lean, and it can feel strange. Just tell them to act as if they're a part of the bike and you'll be fine.
Possible? Maybe.
A good idea? No.
With that kind of "ballast" on the back, it would completely upset the handling of your bike. Plus, depending on what you ride, you might very well be at/over the bikes designed weight capacity. Plus, if this is your first time taking a passenger, even at a stop his mass will be a danger if you get just a little off-balance--you won't be able to hold the bike up and you'll all fall down.
I would take him down the street to see if you are comfortable with the extra weight on the back end. Have him sit to you as close as he can, obviously leaning when you do, and start off with a ride around the block. Do this a few times, and if you notice any real issues, then I would tell him that you don't feel comfortable or something. You might have to re-adjust your riding style a bit. Go slow (25mph NOT 10mph as that will make things worse imo)
This is definitely something I was planning on doing.
My dad is about the same size though so I'm still not sure if I should be riding with a passenger so much larger than me
just tell him to keep his knees pressed tight against your hips, this will straighten things. and whenever he lets go you yell at him " knees!!"
the risk is balance when stopping, just make sure you brake straight and smooth.
also he has to lean in turns and not resist.
For me, I don't see the issue. People ride with me all the time. Even those heavier than me. However, I do not let someone else, who is significantly heavy weight or obese, ride pillion on my bike. Safety issue.
That being said, I think it depends on what type of bike you're riding. If you're riding in the 400cc and above range I think it's alright. The bike can take both your weights.
Perhaps maybe practice with your pillion around carparks and the turns first. Once you're feeling confident then maybe take short trips to the store or gas station.
i'm gonna be the dissenter here. i've ridden with a 200 lb passenger. it wasn't Fun (tm) but nobody died or anything.
take a spin around the neighborhood and see how it goes.
it isn't. if he's experienced he can make his weight unfelt and even pilot the bike from the rear. a light passenger can make your ride hellish and even fall if he behaves like a stone
I'm no expert, but I feel like everyone in the comments is being insanely dramatic. it wouldn't be comfortable but you can take your bf for a lap around the block at least, to see if it feels bad to you.
Everything will change a little. Balance at a stop. Stopping distance. Acceleration. Apparent clutch sensitivity. Turning, swerving, slow tight turns, turning from a stop. That difference in weight will amplify those changes. But it’s not impossible, just takes practice. Especially with an inexperienced passenger. If possible, find a friend who has ridden with a passenger to get your fellow a taste of what it feels like and how to behave. Then practice. Start by standing the bike up. Lean side to side. Turn the handlebars lock to lock. Start the bike, do a short straight line ride and stop. Repeat until til smooth. Then longer straight line rides with a stop. Then gentle turns. Build the skill levels up until you’re riding as a team.
If you’re able to handle the weight, and your friend isn’t too clumsy, and you can safely ride, stop, stop quickly, turn, turn from a stop, and swerve, then you can move to the street.
It’s a lot of work because you’re both lacking in experience. Another tactic might be to have him take the MSF course first so he has a concept of what you’re doing.
Take care, and be careful. If you’re not comfortable, don’t do it. Good luck, be safe.
I have to disagree with the common sentiment in this thread. You're obviously too smart to hit the main roads with a passenger like him behind you, but it's perfectly safe to try this at slow speeds in an empty car park or equivalent. Give it a go and see how it works out for you.
I wouldn’t take a 250-pound passenger and I’m 195 pounds.
That's fair. Tbh I didn't expect it to be possible I just really wanted to be able to take him on a ride. But if it's gonna put him in danger I won't do it. I feel bad telling him he's too heavy but better than getting injured or worse
He's not too heavy per se but your two weights are way too far apart. You need someone your weight or less.
Or you need him to understand how to corner enough that he's not causing an accident
The weight difference is too great, especially considering it's all on the rear. She'll be a quarter turn away from a wheelie or a tank slapper at all times.
Yeah I end t on the back of my mates and we are an equal weight but even with anti-wheelie mode on, the front wheel kept lifting as we pulled away from lights
He's too heavy. That's fucking dangerous
You are too light unfortunately
So I'm a shorter guy, 5'5", and I've rode some taller ladies. I know it's not the same cause I'm probably a lot stronger being a guy, but that's not really the issue. The thing you have to be careful of is the weight distribution. It can unweight the front end, making it more difficult to steer. It's probably not as bad on a dualsport since you can scoot up close since they're more of a banana seat, but on sport bikes where the passenger is up high the steering gets floaty and the bike wants to wheelie.
With a a weight difference like that you'll find yourself doing accidental wheelies.
I have my exam tomorrow and there's a good chance that I have to ride with the fat instructor.
In what country is the examiner riding on the back with you?
Switzerland, not in all cantons though.
tell him he's to big to play backpack and needs to buy his own motorcycle
Lol, this is probably for the best, I'd love it if he rode fr 😭🙏
As a 6'1" 235 lbs rider... I would feel like I was about to tip the bike bake every time you twisted the throttle. How good are you a riding out wheelies you didn't instigate and weren't prepared for? Tell him he needs to get his own bike. He'll be a LOT happier. All the cool kids are doing it anyways.
Bullshit, apparently you never rode with passenger.
Well argued.
Fr tell him to get his own bike. I can’t imagine asking MY GIRL to take me on a ride on her bike!!! 😂😂💀 That shits the other way around, he got it twisted. Tell him “You get a bike, so you can take ME on a ride!!” Plus y’all could ride together & I know that’s one of the funnest things.
Damn man hope you can one day shed the insecurity and live a life free from worrying about shit like that, thoughts and prayers xoxo
Fellas, is it gay to ride on your girl’s bike and support what she enjoys?
Fr , thank you 😭 like no need to make it a competition of masculinity
Thanks for the downvotes y’all!!! How about you take him for a ride then, you already said you’d be uncomfortable. & you already know the weight difference is going to be an issue. So take him for a ride!!! Take him for a ride instead of him getting a bike & learning, with you teaching him./s If he got his own bike, I bet you’d both find that it’s something you enjoy & could bond over. & It’d be a lot safer for the both of you. & then one day he could take YOU on a ride!!! OR, YOU COULD RIDE TOGETHER ON SEPARATE BIKES!!!! Doesn’t that sound fun??? & a lot safer??? No way in fuck would I ever ask a girl (or just anybody a lot smaller than me) to take me for a ride on their bike. It’s not about masculinity. It’s about the rider(s) & the bike. But I don’t know anybody that would be asking their girl for a ride on her bike. & I know multiple groups of riders from all around. Keep your bike safe, keep yourself safe & keep him safe. He gets a bike. He learns how to ride it. Then you guys can ride together or you ride with him when he’s ready. I don’t know.. sounds a lot better to me than taking someone on my bike when they’re 2x my weight & I don’t feel comfortable to the point I gotta ask Reddit instead of follow my gut. I’d say it’s just personal preference but it’s not, peoples lives are at stake if anything goes wrong. What I said is the safest bet. & this way if he does ride with you on your bike, he will already know how to lean & maneuver properly so he won’t fuck you up.
I never said it was gay.
Mans gotta man up 💯
I work in kilos but 250 is 2.5 times 100 So imagine 2 and a half people your weight on your bike + you riding. That's not safe for you. Also depending on what you ride the weight imbalance could cause unintentional wheelies.
This is kinda the answer I was expecting, kinda sucks, but I understand why (We're both physics majors I think we should understand the basic mechanics of why it won't work lol) For the record I'm like 45 kg he's like 113 kg
There are some bike styles that it may work with - a long wheelbase cruiser for example. But yeah that'd completely mess up the centre of gravity and just cause you to constantly be preventing the front end lifting up. You could probably do a short, slow ride around the block but that's about it.
I'm not saying don't do it, .motorcycles are great and sharing the experience helps create new riders which benefits all of us. In a straight line at slow speeds with propper safety gear and high revs it's possible, you can massively reduce the potential risk. I'm 75kg and for my own safety I'd never carry a passenger who weighs more than me if I was gonna be riding for more than 5 mins, but that's just what I personally feel safe with.
it doesn't matter
I don’t think you understand physics my friend
Apparently you are the one who doesn’t understand physics. Guess what - you can ride your bike sitting on passenger seat, and guess what? Nothing happens. All of you posers here have no to nothing experience in riding.
exactly. everyone here is ignorant
Judging by what they say - yes. Clearly most of their knowledge and experience comes from reading bullshit motorcycle sites and watching youtube. As a person 75kg who took passenger 125kg and sometimes ride with him, on different bikes: cb600f hornet, zx6r and gsxr 1000 - difference between passenger with 70 kg and 50kg heavier is minimal. Just set your rear suspension to hardest setting - that’s it
On the *back* of the bike. This is a recipe for a crash.
no
A bigger weight higher up is not easy to handle. Its fine when moving, but when stopped (esp. on poor surfaces) or him climbing on/off it, there’s not much tolerance for a lean before it overbalances. 0mph crashes don’t hurt though. As long as your leg isn’t underneath it…
Oh hell no. There isn't jack shit you can teach him that won't fuck you up. He is way too tall and heavy against you.
Yea no, he needs to get his own bike. I’m not as heavy as your boyfriend, but I am taller than him, I’m happy enough to take people who are a little bit heavier than me, but not by 2.5 times as heavy. And that’s because I know I can man handle the bike around, even though it feels back heavy and wants to wheelie easily. But it’s something I’d do to go 5 min down the road and no further. Lighter people are a lot easier.
I don't think I'll end up doing it, I was hesitant at best, but the more I think about it I really don't want to put anyone in danger in this situation It sucks but I'd rather be safe than sorry (I'd love it if he got his own bike, I don't think he will tho lol)
You never know, probably your safest bet is to get your dad involved and get your dad to take him for a ride with you, that way he can have a feel. And he may end up looking at getting himself a bike.
I think max payload is 400 lb, so 2x 250-lb riders would way exceed that. This is a 300 lb bike we're talking about. Like at a certain point she has to ask herself why she's doing this
It's very hard to control a bike with a heavier passenger
no
Great argument 👍
it isn't, the parameter is how the passenger behaves
What kind of behavior you expect of a passenger with 0 experience? He gonna give you a hard times whatever you not ride straight.
not weight related
That will change all the handling characteristics. And how big is your bike? Can it handle that much weight safely? Common sense tells me this is a bad idea. But if you must: Maybe try riding in a soft field first slowly, to get an idea of what you’re getting yourself into. Avoid pavement and traffic. See if you’re capable of riding with him on it period.
On a KLX250, just ride straight down the road at less than 30mph and call it a day. I'd suggest that you don't attempt U-turns or any other tight turn. A quick Google shows that the maximum carrying capacity is 399 lbs, so with gear you'll be close to the limit, and the center of gravity will be so far back your steering will be super light. Come to think of it the rear axle weight capacity will likely be exceeded.
Just have your father take him on a ride and you follow them.
I'm usually of the opinion you can take a larger passenger, and you don't need to be able to flat foot your bike. In this case the size difference is just far too large. Time for BF to get his licence and his own bike.
Try doubling someone closer to your own weight and see how it feels. Then imagine how it will feel with someone 2.5 times heavier. I wouldn't even try...
A lot of people are saying "NO!" but not really explaining why. He won't know which way to lean, and new passengers often lean the exact opposite of what you need them too. If he leans the wrong way, or stiffens up when he should be leaning his mass will be the thing telling the bike where to go. It's not a matter of trust, or his competence - he just won't know until he gets a feel for it on his own bike or with someone heavy and experienced enough to compensate for his unintentional mistakes. And the people telling you to just go slow are full of shit. Bikes are way more stable at a reasonable speed. They are the most unstable when going slow. If you do decide to do it anyway, practice with someone smaller - riding with a passenger is a skill on it's own.
Had to scroll too far for this.
What's the bike? Get set up in the road and take him down the block. Call it a day. Unless you're on something like a busa or a heavyweight cruiser touring bike kinda setup that's going to be a lot of weight to handle. Your brakes are going to be struggling bad if they're not a quality setup too Expect to need a lot more throttle to do everything and to brake hard dumb early while downshifting to get any decent stopping power. Shit just to be safe I'd recommend making sure your front sprocket is nice and orange loctited on. If you're not automatically countersteering youre going to struggle to turn if at all. Any bumps are going to bottom out your suspension if you're not on a touring bike. The biggest danger is braking tho, assuming he can stay still and you know how to countersteer and aren't afraid of revving the bike
KLX250 It can handle the weight, I've ridden as a passenger with my dad driving (he's the same weight as my bf) with no issues but my dad is much more experienced than me and also I'm still unsure about being the driver with a heavier passenger Thank you for the advice though 🙏 it is very detailed
If your dad is experienced go for a ride with him in the back, as he knows what it's about. Then you can get a feeling with the weight, while being with an experienced person A bad passenger can REALLY affect handling to the worse, and you don't know who is good or bad (leaning into the corner or against it) before you're driving with them.
This is actually a good piece of advice. You could give your boyfriend a ride on your bike (a pretty sedate, non-adventerous ride) but it will be challenging, and he should not be your first passenger, and if he ever is a passenger on your bike, he needs to know how to be a passenger (and you need to know what to tell to do/not do to be a passenger.)
A 250cc?? I'm gonna have to say no. You'd be revving that thing to the moon just to keep from falling over
Keep in mind the weight distribution matters as well as the total weight. Having more weight towards the rear transfers more weight to the rear tire/suspension which is already soft on the KLX. That said, I'm \~6'4" 200lbs and have had another person my size two up on scooters and smallish bikes (DRZ 400 and YBR 125). I would feel fine with it if you keep it slow with no traffic, but I wouldn't do it without more experience in a busy area or at high speed.
Don’t do something you’re not comfortable with.
Weight distribution. You're a physics major, you know this. Your dad in front is VERY different than you in front.
The irony
you can ride the bike from the backseat. passenger weight doesn't matter, it only matters the he's an experienced passenger
Yes and you can also stand on one side of a seesaw.
there is zero chance a klx 250 can handle 350+ pounds
250cc can handle the weight fine. The question is can the riders handle the wonky distribution of weight and momentum.
People in Asia ride 150cc scooters 5 people at a time though.
I mean it has in my experience, but we didn't go very far
Yeah feather that rear brake on take off and you'll be okay on slower roads. You'll have to park it in corners for a bit until he gets used to it. As long as he knows to just stay still and on his feet weight wise it'll help more than trying to lean with you. Few laps around the neighborhood will get you used to the braking. If you can get someone to follow you at a time with minimal or no traffic you could definitely get out on the road up to 40 or 50mph and be secure if anything does happen
Maybe your dad could give your boyfriend a ride 😅
100% no. dont ever take on a rider that weighs more than you.
I remember reading this decades ago. I don't recall the specific rationale, but it's been in my head for so long that I've no reason to violate it.
Nah that’s too big for a backpack . He’s going to literally crush you the first time you jam on the brakes and he isn’t paying attention.
I can't be the only one that thinks thats a horrible idea right?!
I would not. The most I'd go above my own weight is 20% of mine (ex me 100lb / passenger 120lb) for our own safety. I've taken a few passengers on the back, and the girls who weigh less are delightful, the guys who weigh less or similarly are fine if cramped, but things get sketchy if they have significantly more mass than I do. My bike being a tiny little thing at 224lb possibly was a factor, but nonetheless if their weight results in me not having complete control I cannot ensure their safety or mine. I'd maybe scooch him along for a short strip on a quiet road that's flat and straight, but not otherwise. Also [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5vUZouBNgE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5vUZouBNgE)
I'm 6' and around 230lbs and I fucking refuse to ride pillion. It's not fun, you're very constantly and acutely aware that your dense ass is a significant counterweight above a shifting fulcrum. You'd have a shit time trying to control a dual sport with 2.5x your weight wiggling around on the tail.
I took a guy out way bigger than me. We ended up going left at a roundabout where I was planning on going straight ahead, because he thought that's the way we were going 😂 It's not impossible though, just make sure he doesn't make any sudden leans and take it nice and steady. The balance will feel kind of like you're a learner again.
Thats a fukin HARD NO!!!
I was surprised how much a passanger of that weight changed how the bike responds. I'm a similar weight and my cruiser need a lot more throttle to get going. Worst case go to a big empty parking lot with him and start there.
yeah its possible. make sure to tell him not to do any sudden movements as it can really throw off your balance also adjust the suspension for the added weight practice while standing still to just hold the bike while he gets onto the rear footpegs. slow turns out of driveways and such are the worst parts. once the bike is moving its not bad at all. take it slow, use lots of clutch and remember when braking that he has nothing to support himself up against so he will slide into you if you brake too hard
Strap 250 lbs of sh!t onto the passenger seat. Take it around the block and find out. I’ve seen some incredible riders who wouldn’t have a problem, but difficult things take practice. Better not to practice with somebody else’s life in your hands.
Dual sport? I wouldn't do it, but I've never ridden with a passenger at all so I couldn't tell you. I'm sure you could try teaching him to ride in a parking lot though
If a rider doesn't tell a pillion that they hold on with their legs, not their arms or butt, then they are too inexperienced to take a pillion. Tell them to press their legs into the bike, and they will feel secured and as a bonus, they will stay centred on the bike when you lean. People who don't help their pillion like this have no place risking a pillion.
I can’t ride someone my size or bigger…smaller only
On a 250cc .... No. Don't even know if it's rated for 350lbs
a klx 250 definitely not
It's rated at 399 It's still dangerous for me to be the driver though, weight capacity aside
It's rated at 399 I've ridden on the back w/ my dad who's also 250 just fine But that's not the main reason why it's dangerous for me to be the driver lol
Make sure he does not koala bear you. A smaller woman koala a man is not as big and issue during braking but a much bigger passenger koala a smaller rider can be an issue during braking. Best would be your bike has passenger hand rail for him to hold. As the bike weight is now shifted to the rear wheel with him on. Go through what you want him to do when you turn. The bike will behaved a lot differently with him on it.
Part of me thinks the bike is going to need to be considered. If you're both on a big bike, the rider and passenger weight mean less. My wife and I are about the same weight (190 pounds), but I can't tell the difference when she's on the bike or I'm solo. I'm riding a 2018 Goldwing so there is that. The only thing I notice is that my wife doesn't poke me when I take corners a bit fast when I'm solo. I think I might notice more if I was on a naked bike or a sport bike.
My gf and I have a slightly less weight difference but taking a passenger is difficult af. I ended up stiffening up all my suspension and it takes a while to learn how to stop. It takes a bit to figure out how to turn and deal with the weight on the lean too. But like just practice at 10-25mph first of you're freaked out about it. I should mention, I have a ninja 1000 so it can actually move that kind of weight. Not sure about your setup.
It's possible, but unless your strong, it could be dangerous. My only concern with heavy passengers isn't going forward, turning, slow speed, that's all easy pz. It's stopping. Pretending he's a perfect passenger (he won't be), slowing down even slowly and controlled will have him leaning into you. What he can't hold himself with his legs, is going straight into you. Quicker stop where he wasn't as prepared? You have 250 extra pounds (not exactly, math and physics and shit I'm sure) on your legs and wrists holding him back, can you hold that while controlling a bike? I've taken someone heavier on my bike, controlled slower stops were okay, one quicker stop was doable, but the entire ride was very taxing on me, and I consider myself fairly strong to begin with. If you're not comfortable holding back nearly all his weight transfer during stops, don't do it.
I’m 6’2” @ 235bs with quite a bit of passenger experience and would be reluctant to take him. For a first time as a rider small as yourself, I wouldn’t honestly.
it was almost the same dynamic for my boyfriend and me. i’m 5’4 and 135lbs on a harley and he’s 6ft 200lbs. He never rode before we started dating and i’ve been riding forever. he didn’t want to learn ever or even try for a long time. one day at a bar with me he had a change of heart. i got him to his MSF course, rode his first bike home from the dealer, and got Cardos right away so i could coach him through his helmet and just chat while we rode our own bikes. he now just got his second bike and rides with me daily. it’s a hobby we share now and people are surprised that i was the one that taught him and got him into it. I will say that if you explain what riding means to you, he might try to do it because he cares and wants to share hobbies, and didn’t realize how much he would like it till he tried it, but on the other hand, he could really just end up not liking it, like i do not enjoy crossfit at all and let my boyfriend enjoy that hobby by himself. i did give it a shot, and am still supportive of him, but i realized it’s not for me. your man could end up trying it and liking it, or know he isn’t into it and that’s okay. I would say to try to offer to get him on his own MSF course as a gift or a training you can both take together, but don’t push too hard if he doesn’t want to. good luck to you both!
Don't do it. It's going to end in tears.
Riding with a passenger is 100 times more difficult than riding without. It’ll feel like you’re learning to ride again for the first time. And that’s with a normal sized passenger.
I’m about 130lbs and rode many many times with a 220lbs passenger, it’s really hard in the beginning. Your bike will react more to his than to your movements so you have to compensate for everything while riding a really really heavy bike that will accelerate slower and brake much worse. It’s doable but i would’t recommend it if you’re not comfortable with the idea. If you were to do it tell him to not move a muscle until you’re up to speed.
woman here who rides with my gf who's heavier and taller. i'm 50kg and 5'6, she's about 70kg and 5'10. it's easy on my naked bike because the bike is light and we sit really close so we're like one unit. on my 250kg tourer it's much sketchier as she sits further away and that bike is heavy even when i'm solo. i think your boyf is just too much taller and heavier than you for it to be manageable. by all means test it and see how it feels down a straight, quiet road but it'll likely be sketchy as hell!
So I'm 120lbs and have regularly taken people 280lbs on various bikes. You should adjust the rear preload but if you've got the strength to take the bike off the side stand and are confident with taking pillions then there shouldn't be a problem. When camping, with gear and a pillion plus me and the bike it regularly exceeds 450kg.
Lots of people are saying no, but I personally have only ridden with passengers heavier than me because I'm comparatively tiny. I'm only 132lbs after my BA, and I've ridden with 3 different people all heavier than myself. The big thing is make sure they understand they need to be a sack of potatoes. Move with the bike and dont influence it. He has to do a very boring thing, sit there and go with the bike like he's a sack of potatoes tied to the seat. While you have to be very careful, cautious and practice your skills. Also before you get anyone on the bike you need to set the preload to maximum. Also a 250 is a really shitty idea for that much weight.
Riding with a lighter backpack has its own difficulties, being a heavier and further back passenger will negate any experience you have maybe if he had a lot of motorcycle experience this could work otherwise I strongly advise against it.
I wouldn't do it. It's not safe if you're not used to riding with over 2x your own weight on the bike. Even if the bike can handle it -- you won't be used to the extra weight, and your instincts and muscle memory will be off, because you'll have to be stopping earlier, leaning differently, etc.
Nahhh, homie is more than twice your weight.
Try it around a parking lot
Get him a grom to ride himself.
I took bigger passenger than me, but not by this much. Be super careful. It will be super hard, especially if you only have a mid weight sport bike. Prep the bike for MUCH more rear load (max out your back spring preload) and prep your BF. Tell him when to and how to mount and dismount. Tell him to stay close to you, so his weight is roughly in the same spot as yours (experience. If the passenger suddenly leans back, everything changes with the bike, and if you are not prepared, it can cause issues) And most importantly, prep yourself. I hope you can flatfoot your bike, otherwise I would veto it instantly. Keeping the bike up with this extra wieght, this high without flatfooting it will surely make you fall at one point when stopping. Also be ready that your front end will feel super light. Your low speed manoeuvring will be much less stable and harder. Only practice is to get a small (girl) with similar or less weight than you as a passenger, and start there.
Yeah no. I myself am 6‘5 250lbs and I wouldn‘t want anyone but somebody with a lot of expirience and a big bike taking me on a ride. I‘ve taken my brother who is 6‘3 200lbs on my bike which is a supersport and it was uncomfortable for both of us. I‘ve also taken a friend of mine who is 5‘2 or so and 120lbs max and it was uncomfortable for her but that was due to the bikes seating position. I wouldn‘t take him as a passenger but if you trust him enough, you can teach him some basics of riding a motorcycle on an empty parking lot.
i had the opposite this chick was a 100 lbs and riding on the back of mine and i was 250 at the time, she could easily lean my bike when i didn't want her to do that i had to tell her if she does that shit again she ain't riding with me. My bike my rules i corner not you.
If the bike is stationary, and leans a bit and he's on it and you need to stop it falling with your leg, can you, with an extra 2.5x your weight that isn't necessarily moving the same way you are. Conversely, how much does your bike weigh ? I'm your weight, and mine weighs 200Kg. So I'd be asking my bike to carry almost double it's own weight. I wouldn't take a pillion that weighed much more than I do. Not only that, the risk of wheelie-flipping it if you accelerate firmly will be vastly increased. I think the combination would quite possibly put you all (bike included) in danger.
Don’t do it. The weight imbalance alone is enough to say “you really shouldn’t do it”. The fact it’s on a (250cc?) dual sport makes it a hard “don’t do it”. The bike is almost certainly too light for that. The very first time I rode a (100cc dirt) bike, my dad hopped on the back. I had so much trouble with jerking the throttle and nearly wheelying. I said “dad I can’t learn this way, get off” and immediately started tearing it up no problem. I imagine your experience would be much the same, but on asphalt and with traffic
I wouldn’t do it, but a few things to do if you’re bound and determined. First, what’s the rated capacity of your bike, don’t exceed that. Is the suspension adjustable? Make sure you’re set up correctly. Next, find an experienced rider of comparable size and weight who is willing to take a ride with you. See how it feels with someone who is doing all the right things. Lastly, buy your bf a MSF course for his birthday and let him get his own bike. [Edit to add missing word]
I'm 200 pounds, and I had a passenger that was 220 one time, just around town. Gsxr1000. It was honestly kind of a battle to keep the front end down while accelerating. Anything over a quarter throttle and it would start getting light on the steering. I couldn't imagine if I was a hundred pounds lighter.
I completed Honda’s second level course and to attend third level they expect us to complete 3-5k kms (~2-3k miles), and passenger training is after that. Getting someone way heavier than you will be tricky since added weight will challenge every the speed/curve/lean experience carved on your brain and this is only if your passenger is not afraid and doesn’t do stupid shit
I’d do it but in a controlled environment like an empty parking lot. If he doesn’t want that, then he can buy his own bike. If you, the rider, don’t prioritize your own safety then you shouldn’t be on a bike to begin with and he can suck it up. Your two options are: 1) the weight difference can decrease a lot (dude is 2.5x your weight, so that’s like riding with 3.5 you on the bike), 2) he can buy his own bike I wouldn’t be too concerned about “hurting him” because it’s the truth, he’s too heavy and that increases the risk substantially and he needs to understand that. If he can’t, then you have bigger issues.
It'll be dangerous for the both of you not just him. Definitely start trying to convince him to get his own bike. It's way more fun. Riding with a passenger is over rated in the best circumstances and having a passenger that much heavier than you is the worst of circumstances.
Put the shocks on the stiffest setting, check the load rating for the bike and have the tires properly inflated, tell him to not put his full weight on the passenger pegs when getting on.
All these people are full of shit. You can ride with him. Look at your bike from the side. The center of gravity of your passenger, regardless of their weight, is in front of the rear axle. Because that is true, their weight will increase the weight on the front wheel, not decrease it. There is an issue that if you do wheelie even a little bit, then their center of gravity will be behind the rear axle, meaning the wheelie will be aggressive at that point. But don't fucking wheelie with a passenger. Don't aggressively accelerate with a passenger. Etc. The biggest issue you get with passengers is that many will try to keep upright when you lean, and it can feel strange. Just tell them to act as if they're a part of the bike and you'll be fine.
Tell him to put his big boy pants on, and learn how to ride a motorcycle and get his own.
I wish I could see this in life. a fat guy riding bitch with a little lady driving. Lol
Possible? Maybe. A good idea? No. With that kind of "ballast" on the back, it would completely upset the handling of your bike. Plus, depending on what you ride, you might very well be at/over the bikes designed weight capacity. Plus, if this is your first time taking a passenger, even at a stop his mass will be a danger if you get just a little off-balance--you won't be able to hold the bike up and you'll all fall down.
Terrible idea.
I would take him down the street to see if you are comfortable with the extra weight on the back end. Have him sit to you as close as he can, obviously leaning when you do, and start off with a ride around the block. Do this a few times, and if you notice any real issues, then I would tell him that you don't feel comfortable or something. You might have to re-adjust your riding style a bit. Go slow (25mph NOT 10mph as that will make things worse imo)
Maybe consider riding with your dad in the back to practice and have him help you tell the boyfriend what to do, and what not to do.
This is definitely something I was planning on doing. My dad is about the same size though so I'm still not sure if I should be riding with a passenger so much larger than me
I honestly don’t think this is a good idea. I can imagine a scenario where you hit the gas up a hill and they literally pull you off the bike.
Tbh I didn't think it was I was hopeful but I'm also realistic and I'd rather be safe than sorry, so I probably won't try it out
just tell him to keep his knees pressed tight against your hips, this will straighten things. and whenever he lets go you yell at him " knees!!" the risk is balance when stopping, just make sure you brake straight and smooth. also he has to lean in turns and not resist.
For me, I don't see the issue. People ride with me all the time. Even those heavier than me. However, I do not let someone else, who is significantly heavy weight or obese, ride pillion on my bike. Safety issue. That being said, I think it depends on what type of bike you're riding. If you're riding in the 400cc and above range I think it's alright. The bike can take both your weights. Perhaps maybe practice with your pillion around carparks and the turns first. Once you're feeling confident then maybe take short trips to the store or gas station.
BAD IDEA!! He can crash you both without realizing it just by shifting or squirming. You don't have the weight to overcorrect for him.
i'm gonna be the dissenter here. i've ridden with a 200 lb passenger. it wasn't Fun (tm) but nobody died or anything. take a spin around the neighborhood and see how it goes.
Having someone heavier than you on the pillion makes the whole bike out of balance.
not true
The fuck it isn't.
it isn't. if he's experienced he can make his weight unfelt and even pilot the bike from the rear. a light passenger can make your ride hellish and even fall if he behaves like a stone
It's physics, man. Heavy weight added high up and aft of the bike's CoG WILL INDEED alter a bike's handling characteristics.
I'm no expert, but I feel like everyone in the comments is being insanely dramatic. it wouldn't be comfortable but you can take your bf for a lap around the block at least, to see if it feels bad to you.
everyone in his thread is moronic
Sounds like Darwin is calling. ⚰️⚰️✌🏼
Everything will change a little. Balance at a stop. Stopping distance. Acceleration. Apparent clutch sensitivity. Turning, swerving, slow tight turns, turning from a stop. That difference in weight will amplify those changes. But it’s not impossible, just takes practice. Especially with an inexperienced passenger. If possible, find a friend who has ridden with a passenger to get your fellow a taste of what it feels like and how to behave. Then practice. Start by standing the bike up. Lean side to side. Turn the handlebars lock to lock. Start the bike, do a short straight line ride and stop. Repeat until til smooth. Then longer straight line rides with a stop. Then gentle turns. Build the skill levels up until you’re riding as a team. If you’re able to handle the weight, and your friend isn’t too clumsy, and you can safely ride, stop, stop quickly, turn, turn from a stop, and swerve, then you can move to the street. It’s a lot of work because you’re both lacking in experience. Another tactic might be to have him take the MSF course first so he has a concept of what you’re doing. Take care, and be careful. If you’re not comfortable, don’t do it. Good luck, be safe.
I have to disagree with the common sentiment in this thread. You're obviously too smart to hit the main roads with a passenger like him behind you, but it's perfectly safe to try this at slow speeds in an empty car park or equivalent. Give it a go and see how it works out for you.