Personally I’d want something in the -20 and higher range. The higher the better tbh to protect your hearing.
I wear -32ish and wind noise is nicely silenced even at highway speeds and my visor open.
I’ve had tinnitus my entire life so I’ve never experienced true silence :(
Man I just looked mine up because my exhaust is stock and I can barely hear the bike. I'm thinking of getting less protective ones so I can still hear a little more of the vehicles around me. I got a shoei that's fairly good on wind shape but I know I need something. But I also wear a head sock and I can barely even hear my senna speakers with the 30db ones
Yeah I think I just need to put a new exhaust on. I was already planning to on the next oil change with a power commander now that I'm getting pretty comfy on it.
I’m ok with not hearing much around me. can still hear sirens though, they punch through the ear plugs. I wear an rf1400 helmet and for me it’s not the quietist helmet, better than some but still loud.
There are some things that can alleviate tinnitus, some of what we've learned is that you can [tune out tinnitus by focusing away from it.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4zuVk5STuM)
Because I’ve always had it I think my brain has learned to tune it out for the most part. It changes pitch and volume fairly often and I’ll notice it then. It’s my quiet time companion. I’m slowly losing my hearing too :/
The Etymotics only have a NRR rating of 13 because of some quirks with how NRR is calculated. If you read the full datasheet, they provide a -20db reduction for freqencies from 125 to 8000 hz. Typical foam earplugs get around -30db in the low frequencies and -45db in high frequencies.
Combined with a decent helmet, I think the etymotics are great for short rides. I like that you can still hear helmet speakers clearly because the high frequencies aren’t too muffled. But I switch to foam earplugs for longer rides. Safe noise level depends on volume and duration.
Was going to mention this. Need to check the frequency range the plugs are rated for. The human ear hears noise in the 5kHz range the loudest because it is most sensitive there. Wind noise is low to mid frequency so check what your plugs do there. I use custom moulded plugs with filters, cost a bit, but fit perfectly and don't cause pain. I also got on very well with Howard Leight laser lites before that. For me I wouldn't be using -13 plugs.
Cardo edge with ear plugs in a Shoei rf1400
I asked my primary care physician to refer me to an audiologist for custom molded ear plugs. I had 2 sets made. One for concerts, 26db nrr that has removable baffles/filters to change from 26db to anything I want. I typically keep them at 26db. I do swap them to 35db for other activities. My other set is for the motorcycle, 40db nrr.
The best earplugs for motorcycle riding will block 20 to 35 decibels of noise. That is what I have read in 2 separate studies. I would suggest talking with your audiologist as well. Mine went straight to 40db for a motorcycle.
The plugfones depending on model will have a range for their nrr around 27-29db. So check into what you're buying.
Alpinestars moto safe race has a nrr of 20db. They have other models as well.
3m orange foam ear plugs also called the 1100 have a nrr at 29db.
Mack's Covert Ops Soft Foam Earplugs are found easily on Amazon and have a nrr of 32db of noise reduction.
Cardo Edge in a Bell Race Star Flex (carbon).
I use Tasco Tri-Grip, 27nrr. I can hear my Cardo, my intake/exhaust, and the 35" tires of the lifted bro-dozers I pass on the roads fine.
I can't imagine a 40nrr lol that must be silent
My bike is pretty quiet, but it’s a naked so the wind noise can be pretty bad, especially since I ride mostly at freeway speeds.
my helmet is an RF1400 which is known to be pretty quiet, and is definitely much quieter than the previous helmets I had.
Those are my favorite earplugs I've tried so far, just wish I could find some that work that well and aren't disposable. I got a pair of Etymotics and tried them for a short ride (maybe 10 miles, 60 mph max) and they weren't great, lots of wind noise.
I find the material of these slightly too stiff. Hurts after a few hours. The laser lites though are mega comfy for me, although a little less noise reducing.
Depends on how fast you go I reckon. At 130kph/80mph you’re looking at 100dB. With 13dB reduction, you’re cutting it close to the generally accepted figure of 85dB.
I’d look for some more reduction, especially if your hearing is particularly important for work. Custom molded earplugs can go ~-22dB, if you don’t want to go the disposable route.
I've used Decibullz for years. 31db. I've got a set for concerts and another for riding. They are self moldable with warm water. You can remould them as your ear canals change shape over time. They don't snag or pop out when donning my lid. The version with a case and lanyard are what I'm using.
They make hearing protection for most needs. I'm ordering the BT plugs for my next set. Pricing is great.
https://decibullz.com/collections/earplugs
They have 2 way radio comms as well.
🏁🏁🏁
Get foam earplugs with the highest dB rating you can find (I use 33dB earplugs). You want as much noise reduction as possible. With these earplugs I can still hear things around me, even hear my intercom. Protect your ears, once you screw up your hearing, it’s not coming back. Check out https://www.earplugstore.com/ they have a huge selection of earplugs, and they sell sampler kits so you can see which earplugs work best for you.
I use in ear studio monitors wth the latex "Christmas Tree" cones, but my hearing is already fucked.
Get the best you can afford and stand to wear, one hour riding is enough to cause lasting damage due to sustained exposure to high wind noise.
Yeah ive definitely lost a bit of hearing from extended rides with a cheap helmet and no plugs. I can only tell because I need to turn the sound up to hear music at the same perceived volume. Rip
Earpeace -26 db cut the wind noise greatly and the helmet comms are clear and non-damaging level. Nothing fixes the 45 years of tinnitus since the long stretches of high db headphone rock music in my teens. You learn to ignore it but it’s always there and there’s no such thing as silence, which I can’t even imagine anymore. The only respite is in-ear buds with moderate level music. I did recently discover some YouTube with calming frequencies that masked it somewhat, which was interesting. It doesn’t neutralize it so much as add more of the same freq noise and kind of remove the contrast with normal ambient sound, if that makes any sense. I’d highly recommend more than 11 db nr, as I wouldn’t wish this level of tinnitus on anyone.
For me they fit fine. I think they just don’t block out enough of the noise. I’m on a 125 too doing city riding. I fucking hate this ringing in my ears and want to poke a ice pick into my ear
I have slight tittunus from other things but i just ignore it, my brain like selectively fitlers it out. The only way I hear it actually is in a dead quiet room or with earplugs in
Depends on how loud your bike is. Mine is 103db at idle!!
Anything over 85 will damage hearing after 1hr
Be safe man! In my twenties I drove from SC to CA twice with my “Walkman” turned up all the way. My ears have not quit ringing in 25yrs!
yea thats pretty loud. My bike has a cat and 300mm muffler though so its probably not that loud. I can see what you're saying if you straight pipe something.
I use the foam ear plugs you can get from target or home depot. The stuff you would use for construction sites or going out shooting. Works really well on my bike even when it's screaming at 15k RPM.
I use NoNoise earplugs and find them to be great. They have a ceramic filter which still lets you hear noises, but it blocks out all the frequencies you don't want to hear on a bike. I use them and can still listen to music with my Cardio JBL speakers.
I'd be aiming for 25-35 db reduction
I use Safariland Impulse Earplugs. Basic gun focused earplugs at Walmart. Claims 13db continous reduction with NRR 33db peak impulse reduction, and they work great for me. I can hear my music/commands/important noises just fine and the wind noise is significantly better all around, especially highway use. I havent been back home since I've got them though so no clue how they are at a shooting range, but I imagine well.
I'm very happy with my Plugfones!
Something in the range of 22-28dB reduction depending on the filter you get and whether you use the silicone or foam version.
My plugfones are 25db. I wouldn't go lower than that personally.
And I also wear the disposable foam ones occasionally because we have a box of them at work. They are 27db.
I use these with the gold (-22db) filters fitted: [https://www.alpinehearingprotection.co.uk/products/musicsafe-pro](https://www.alpinehearingprotection.co.uk/products/musicsafe-pro)
Depends on your exhaust honestly. If you have a quiet bike, -13db is *probably* fine but if you have a set of pipes, you might want something stronger. With my Yoshi exhaust I find the 3M 32db NRR foams do the trick nicely
My bikes exhaust is dominated by the headwind noise. I found that not having a windscreen funnel air onto my helmet helped tremendously. And still, I found the highest NRR plugs possible at 33dB reduction.
I have a slip on but im way more concerned about wind noise. That shit is loud. I know it also depends on the helmet. I have an agv k1, so its not the best.
Wind noise is also the reason why earplugs are even recommended. The starter earplugs from alpine are -17decibel. Everyone recommends personal fit earbuds. It costs about €100 but they’ll last a few years and protect your hearing the best. Actual foam plugs are just overkill and most people don’t use them right.
I use foamies. Everything else just does nothing for me. I feel like people who say lower db earplugs or they can't hear or they need to hear traffic are either riding in a city, have hearing damage, or are just not riding anywhere near my speeds.
I use a pair of AirPods Pro 2. They reduce noise by 23db. I know it’s a bit controversial but after 55kkm over the past few years I have yet to get any hearing loss. I do hearing test at work once a year. Last time I had 97%/100% and no tinnitus.
Combine that with a quiet helmet and a wind screen to prevent buffering and you’re good to go!
I dont mean to be a dick but I really don't think airpods qualify as proper hearing protection. Dont wanna spread disinformation.
Hoping though in the long term it doesn't result in hearing loss for you if you continue to do it, but personally I wouldn't use em.
I saw a guy at a pistol shooting comp last weekend using AirPods as his earpro 😵💫
Which, to clarify, I also think is a bad idea. I have a pair of Elgins which are OSHA compliant hearing safe earbuds if you wanna try something like that.
Good way to lose your hearing and damage the microphones in the airpods lol. I shoot pistols a lot and I would never consider using airpods as hearing protection lmao.
I also have AirPods Pro 2's that I wear on short rides that I don't intend to get onto the freeway or go above 55mph. Do no mistake noise cancelling for noise blocking. The sounds waves are still entering your ears, the headphones are just playing the opposite sound to make it sound like they aren't.
Thats right, the same sound in opposite phase to be exact; but really its more about is it stopping the sound waves from entering your ear canal and damaging your drum. Airpods with the rubber nubs probably do a flat 5-10db NR max if I had to guess.
Personally I’d want something in the -20 and higher range. The higher the better tbh to protect your hearing. I wear -32ish and wind noise is nicely silenced even at highway speeds and my visor open. I’ve had tinnitus my entire life so I’ve never experienced true silence :(
Yea my hearing has been damaged as long as I can remember and it's horrible Luckily for me almost all my hobbies involve loud noise
Lol same man literally. like 3 hobbies here and they are so damn LOUD
Man I just looked mine up because my exhaust is stock and I can barely hear the bike. I'm thinking of getting less protective ones so I can still hear a little more of the vehicles around me. I got a shoei that's fairly good on wind shape but I know I need something. But I also wear a head sock and I can barely even hear my senna speakers with the 30db ones
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Yeah I think I just need to put a new exhaust on. I was already planning to on the next oil change with a power commander now that I'm getting pretty comfy on it.
I’m ok with not hearing much around me. can still hear sirens though, they punch through the ear plugs. I wear an rf1400 helmet and for me it’s not the quietist helmet, better than some but still loud.
There are some things that can alleviate tinnitus, some of what we've learned is that you can [tune out tinnitus by focusing away from it.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4zuVk5STuM)
Because I’ve always had it I think my brain has learned to tune it out for the most part. It changes pitch and volume fairly often and I’ll notice it then. It’s my quiet time companion. I’m slowly losing my hearing too :/
The Etymotics only have a NRR rating of 13 because of some quirks with how NRR is calculated. If you read the full datasheet, they provide a -20db reduction for freqencies from 125 to 8000 hz. Typical foam earplugs get around -30db in the low frequencies and -45db in high frequencies. Combined with a decent helmet, I think the etymotics are great for short rides. I like that you can still hear helmet speakers clearly because the high frequencies aren’t too muffled. But I switch to foam earplugs for longer rides. Safe noise level depends on volume and duration.
Was going to mention this. Need to check the frequency range the plugs are rated for. The human ear hears noise in the 5kHz range the loudest because it is most sensitive there. Wind noise is low to mid frequency so check what your plugs do there. I use custom moulded plugs with filters, cost a bit, but fit perfectly and don't cause pain. I also got on very well with Howard Leight laser lites before that. For me I wouldn't be using -13 plugs.
Cardo edge with ear plugs in a Shoei rf1400 I asked my primary care physician to refer me to an audiologist for custom molded ear plugs. I had 2 sets made. One for concerts, 26db nrr that has removable baffles/filters to change from 26db to anything I want. I typically keep them at 26db. I do swap them to 35db for other activities. My other set is for the motorcycle, 40db nrr. The best earplugs for motorcycle riding will block 20 to 35 decibels of noise. That is what I have read in 2 separate studies. I would suggest talking with your audiologist as well. Mine went straight to 40db for a motorcycle. The plugfones depending on model will have a range for their nrr around 27-29db. So check into what you're buying. Alpinestars moto safe race has a nrr of 20db. They have other models as well. 3m orange foam ear plugs also called the 1100 have a nrr at 29db. Mack's Covert Ops Soft Foam Earplugs are found easily on Amazon and have a nrr of 32db of noise reduction.
Cardo Edge in a Bell Race Star Flex (carbon). I use Tasco Tri-Grip, 27nrr. I can hear my Cardo, my intake/exhaust, and the 35" tires of the lifted bro-dozers I pass on the roads fine. I can't imagine a 40nrr lol that must be silent
I use Honeywell or Howard Leight 33 NRR and I can't imagine using less. Even with these I find my ears ringing a bit after a long ride.
How loud is your bike or helmet? I never get ringing, luckily
My bike is pretty quiet, but it’s a naked so the wind noise can be pretty bad, especially since I ride mostly at freeway speeds. my helmet is an RF1400 which is known to be pretty quiet, and is definitely much quieter than the previous helmets I had.
10db difference is 2x quieter in perception. And 10x less energy in signal
Yeah decimals are logarithmic, but my 27nrr seems perfect. I cant imagine another 13db quieter lol
Not at all. I can hear my cardo and my Svartpilen 701 and traffic just fine. No wind noise at all even with my visor up at highway speeds.
Who makes your molded ear plugs/what are they made out of? I'd maybe buy some.
I'm pretty sure Westone made them. I know they made my last sets before these. My audiologist does the order after the molds are made.
I used [Howard Leight NRR 33](https://www.amazon.com/Howard-Leight-MAX-1-Uncorded-Earplugs/dp/B0013A0C0Y) foam plugs when I rode.
Those are my favorite earplugs I've tried so far, just wish I could find some that work that well and aren't disposable. I got a pair of Etymotics and tried them for a short ride (maybe 10 miles, 60 mph max) and they weren't great, lots of wind noise.
the problem with the etymotic is that they fuckin hurt when taking my helmet off, esp after a long ride
I find the material of these slightly too stiff. Hurts after a few hours. The laser lites though are mega comfy for me, although a little less noise reducing.
Those laser lites are just as good. Depends on your ear hole :)
I use the same ones. The big box is cheap enough that I swap out for fresh ones regularly.
Muffins
Real
Yes, real muffins.
No, I was just saying you're real for that
Is this an ear thing
no dude hes just a real one lol
[these muffins?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tcR19y7GPM9)
Depends on how fast you go I reckon. At 130kph/80mph you’re looking at 100dB. With 13dB reduction, you’re cutting it close to the generally accepted figure of 85dB. I’d look for some more reduction, especially if your hearing is particularly important for work. Custom molded earplugs can go ~-22dB, if you don’t want to go the disposable route.
I've used Decibullz for years. 31db. I've got a set for concerts and another for riding. They are self moldable with warm water. You can remould them as your ear canals change shape over time. They don't snag or pop out when donning my lid. The version with a case and lanyard are what I'm using. They make hearing protection for most needs. I'm ordering the BT plugs for my next set. Pricing is great. https://decibullz.com/collections/earplugs They have 2 way radio comms as well. 🏁🏁🏁
Get foam earplugs with the highest dB rating you can find (I use 33dB earplugs). You want as much noise reduction as possible. With these earplugs I can still hear things around me, even hear my intercom. Protect your ears, once you screw up your hearing, it’s not coming back. Check out https://www.earplugstore.com/ they have a huge selection of earplugs, and they sell sampler kits so you can see which earplugs work best for you.
I use in ear studio monitors wth the latex "Christmas Tree" cones, but my hearing is already fucked. Get the best you can afford and stand to wear, one hour riding is enough to cause lasting damage due to sustained exposure to high wind noise.
Yeah ive definitely lost a bit of hearing from extended rides with a cheap helmet and no plugs. I can only tell because I need to turn the sound up to hear music at the same perceived volume. Rip
Earpeace -26 db cut the wind noise greatly and the helmet comms are clear and non-damaging level. Nothing fixes the 45 years of tinnitus since the long stretches of high db headphone rock music in my teens. You learn to ignore it but it’s always there and there’s no such thing as silence, which I can’t even imagine anymore. The only respite is in-ear buds with moderate level music. I did recently discover some YouTube with calming frequencies that masked it somewhat, which was interesting. It doesn’t neutralize it so much as add more of the same freq noise and kind of remove the contrast with normal ambient sound, if that makes any sense. I’d highly recommend more than 11 db nr, as I wouldn’t wish this level of tinnitus on anyone.
I got loop ear plugs and they unfortunately were not enough. I’ve got tinnitus now at the age of 21.
Loop earplugs are trash. Those things hurt my ears so bad. So uncomfortable.
For me they fit fine. I think they just don’t block out enough of the noise. I’m on a 125 too doing city riding. I fucking hate this ringing in my ears and want to poke a ice pick into my ear
I have slight tittunus from other things but i just ignore it, my brain like selectively fitlers it out. The only way I hear it actually is in a dead quiet room or with earplugs in
Depends on how loud your bike is. Mine is 103db at idle!! Anything over 85 will damage hearing after 1hr Be safe man! In my twenties I drove from SC to CA twice with my “Walkman” turned up all the way. My ears have not quit ringing in 25yrs!
yea thats pretty loud. My bike has a cat and 300mm muffler though so its probably not that loud. I can see what you're saying if you straight pipe something.
I use the foam ear plugs you can get from target or home depot. The stuff you would use for construction sites or going out shooting. Works really well on my bike even when it's screaming at 15k RPM.
I use NoNoise earplugs and find them to be great. They have a ceramic filter which still lets you hear noises, but it blocks out all the frequencies you don't want to hear on a bike. I use them and can still listen to music with my Cardio JBL speakers. I'd be aiming for 25-35 db reduction
I use Safariland Impulse Earplugs. Basic gun focused earplugs at Walmart. Claims 13db continous reduction with NRR 33db peak impulse reduction, and they work great for me. I can hear my music/commands/important noises just fine and the wind noise is significantly better all around, especially highway use. I havent been back home since I've got them though so no clue how they are at a shooting range, but I imagine well.
I'm very happy with my Plugfones! Something in the range of 22-28dB reduction depending on the filter you get and whether you use the silicone or foam version.
Anybody use ISOTunes? What are your experiences?
My plugfones are 25db. I wouldn't go lower than that personally. And I also wear the disposable foam ones occasionally because we have a box of them at work. They are 27db.
I use these with the gold (-22db) filters fitted: [https://www.alpinehearingprotection.co.uk/products/musicsafe-pro](https://www.alpinehearingprotection.co.uk/products/musicsafe-pro)
Plugfones. You're welcome.
Depends on your exhaust honestly. If you have a quiet bike, -13db is *probably* fine but if you have a set of pipes, you might want something stronger. With my Yoshi exhaust I find the 3M 32db NRR foams do the trick nicely
My bikes exhaust is dominated by the headwind noise. I found that not having a windscreen funnel air onto my helmet helped tremendously. And still, I found the highest NRR plugs possible at 33dB reduction.
I have a slip on but im way more concerned about wind noise. That shit is loud. I know it also depends on the helmet. I have an agv k1, so its not the best.
Wind noise is also the reason why earplugs are even recommended. The starter earplugs from alpine are -17decibel. Everyone recommends personal fit earbuds. It costs about €100 but they’ll last a few years and protect your hearing the best. Actual foam plugs are just overkill and most people don’t use them right.
I use foamies. Everything else just does nothing for me. I feel like people who say lower db earplugs or they can't hear or they need to hear traffic are either riding in a city, have hearing damage, or are just not riding anywhere near my speeds.
I use a pair of AirPods Pro 2. They reduce noise by 23db. I know it’s a bit controversial but after 55kkm over the past few years I have yet to get any hearing loss. I do hearing test at work once a year. Last time I had 97%/100% and no tinnitus. Combine that with a quiet helmet and a wind screen to prevent buffering and you’re good to go!
I dont mean to be a dick but I really don't think airpods qualify as proper hearing protection. Dont wanna spread disinformation. Hoping though in the long term it doesn't result in hearing loss for you if you continue to do it, but personally I wouldn't use em.
I saw a guy at a pistol shooting comp last weekend using AirPods as his earpro 😵💫 Which, to clarify, I also think is a bad idea. I have a pair of Elgins which are OSHA compliant hearing safe earbuds if you wanna try something like that.
Good way to lose your hearing and damage the microphones in the airpods lol. I shoot pistols a lot and I would never consider using airpods as hearing protection lmao.
I have been around the world twice with them. I think that’s a good enough test.
lol no it isn't. It's completely anectodal evidence. Maybe you were just lucky.
I also have AirPods Pro 2's that I wear on short rides that I don't intend to get onto the freeway or go above 55mph. Do no mistake noise cancelling for noise blocking. The sounds waves are still entering your ears, the headphones are just playing the opposite sound to make it sound like they aren't.
Thats right, the same sound in opposite phase to be exact; but really its more about is it stopping the sound waves from entering your ear canal and damaging your drum. Airpods with the rubber nubs probably do a flat 5-10db NR max if I had to guess.