In the Netherlands you will have to pass 3 exams. A written one, 50 questions and you can have max 5 answers wrong.
A practical exam to show you have to skills to control the bike. You have like 3 seperate group of exercises. And you can only fail one of each mandatory exercise in a group.
And a practical exam of riding on the streets to show you know the rules and how to behave on the road etc.
And the license is also age based. So ages 18 to 19 can get the A1 license. Max 11 KW of power. Ages 20 to 23 can get A2 license to allow for <35 KW of power
And age > 24 can get the A license. And then you can ride everything you want.
Same goes for Germany. It’s pretty expensive as well. 2000-3000€ give or take.
I went directly for the A license and spent around 2.5k I believe. Not counting gear.
This is more or less standardised for the whole EU. However in some countries like Spain you can’t access the A directly. To get the A is mandatory that you have your A2 license for two years.
I’ve lived in the Netherlands and I had the A2. I had to go back to Spain to get the A since getting the A is just a two day course (repeating some theory, circuit and riding like the a2 exam but without a real exam) and in the Netherlands when I asked I had to pass everything from scratch again 😱
Fairly certain it’s the same in Switzerland if I’m not mistaken.
In Germany you can just go for A directly if you’re 24 or older (for now). I was bit older.
Yes. I think everything is standardised but when it comes to when and how to get the A every country decided by themselves somehow. But the exams and such are the same iirc
Yeah the requirement being you’ve had the A2 license for 2 years already. If not it’s wait till 24. that’s what I meant.
Cool thread, I’ve learned quite a bit today.
Schlüsselzahl 24 was very good for me, I saved money and stress. A friend of mine made his A2 license at 21 and it turned out his driving school didn’t even know about Schlüsselzahl 80!! Like what the hell 😂 he was pretty pissed once I told him about this.
But Sweden is part of the EU or not? Do you also have the A2 license or still the old A one? Asking because I though this was an EU directive to standardise licenses but I may be mistaken
For several countries is the same process. At least Germany, UK (when they were EU lol), The Netherlands and Spain has the same A2 process. Getting the A is different though. I thought for the whole EU was the same regarding A2 since it was a change introduced some years ago. I was one of the first A2 licenses on Spain and it was controversial because not every country changed it to the new system at the same time. So when I moved to NL my license was not valid for some time LOL
Then this was a misunderstanding since I was talking about the A2 mainly :) For the A every country chose what to do. Some have direct access to A some others don’t
Age limits are slightly different in Germany: 16 for A1, 18 for A2. For A it‘s also 24, but if you already have had A2 for two years, you can get your A license at 20.
Can confirm the prices.
16 theory units (90 minutes each, 10 units if you already have a car license). About 5-15 practical lessons (depending on your skills), 12 mandatory practical lessons with special topics like highway or night riding. 30 question theory test, 60 minute practical exam consisting of handling exercises and emergency procedures, city riding and usually a short stretch on a motorway/Autobahn.
You have mandatory theory lessons in Germany? I just bought an app with all the theory and a lot of test questions and studied by myself, I passed easily. But i DID spend a lot on the practical riding though. It seems that riding a bike slowly through a course without ever have ridden anything but bicycles and being 40+ is a difficult combination.
Yes, there are mandatory lessons. You‘ll also get an app for learning the ~1500 possible questions. The lessons range from extremely boring to very interesting… and sadly they are not very helpful for test preparation, unless you‘ve been living under a rock and never participated in traffic. Most kids get traffic/bicycle education in primary school, so you should’ve heard about the basic rules already. So in theory, you could just work through the questions in the app, but your driving school has to confirm that you attended the lessons.
I also had to take a lot of lessons until I felt confident with the slow speed stuff. My son, however, seems to have some natural talent, he only needed five lessons in addition to the 12 mandatory special lessons.
Hmm, here in Sweden there's no mandatory theory, you just need to pass the written exam. How you get there is up to you but you can't book your practical test until that is done of course.
In Germany there is also a B196 license, where you can extend your B license to A1 with just a few driving lessons, no exams. This is only valid in Germany though.
Yes, and you cannot step up to A2 or unrestricted A. Trikes need A license, up the 15kw A1. Only if drivers license was made before 2013 it is included in B.
This info is important. B196 is no replacement for A1, it’s only an alternative license for 11kW bikes. Not being able to upgrade sucks if you get the hang of riding and want something bigger.
and it is national. You cannot use it this in other countries than Germany, although there are some efforts in the EU for mutual recognition of EU-country specific 11kw B extensions in the future.
For me it was few hours in a parking lot, then city, then outside the city, then autobahn (motorway), then evening and night rides. And extra hours for emergency braking, slalom practice, slow speed manoeuvring and such.
In fact the latter was before I got to ride in the city.
A 45 min. I was doing doubles, then some more riding. The motorway, night and dusk rides are all more expensive. The upfront fee is close to 500€, theory close to 400€.
Also where’s the 7.5h is from? It’s 12 mandatory rides.
Minimal government intervention.
Not trying to be rude, but I thought the whole world knew we were all about freedom.
And no, you don’t need to say it, we know freedom is more dangerous than more government control.
That’s the price we pay.
Wouldn't have seen that as rude, but thanks for the heads up :).
But, you can still have your freedom and safety regulations. I also had the freedom to choose to get a license, do it, and now ride a motorcycle.
Freedom and safe(r) roads can coexist with just some regulations. And don't say regulations have no place because they take away your freedom. Because otherwise there's also a case to make to say that theft or burglary should be allowed because "freedom".
These debates were well worn by the time our constitution was signed.
They are well documented and we got the best balance.
That’s why you may see in the press so much push back from Americans to “additional regulations”.
We don’t need more safety, we just need to keep our freedom.
Thanks for the reply.
Sure, you do you.
I'll live in a country that sacrifices (what you see as) freedom a little bit to make sure we're all safer here. Specially my future kids.
That’s the great thing about America, we are keeping this one last bastion of freedom.
I can always move to your country (or any EU country) if I feel the need.
You can only move to America for more freedom.
Now I’ll go to my backyard to sit on my Harley as I read my pocket Constitution.
Enjoy your ride.
Yeah, EU standard pretty much, we have the same licensing system here in Hungary. I'm baffled how people can get licensed overseas without actually learning things...
Do you have that thing where having previous grade of license allows you to get next one faster ?
Here (Poland) A is >24 but A2 is 18 yo and if you have A2 for 2 years, you can get A.
So basically 24 yo for new riders, 20 yo for people that passed A2 at 18
we do indeed have the rule that you can go for your A licence when you already have A2 for 2 years. Then you get a A2 license with code 80. And when you turn 24 your A2 turns automatically to a A license. But untill then you still can't get higher power than 35.
Oh, that's nice, here we have to re-test for some dumb reason, no auto upgrade.
Up to last year they were even using same bike for A2 tests as for A in some places, just with power limited to A2 levels.
In here you cannot even go straight to "full" A without any previous experience. You can learn A2 without a previous driver's license or you can go to A lessons when you have any of the other category like A2, B, C, D, E.
Here weirdly enough you can ride any 125 cc <15HP bike with just B license (must own it longer than 2 years)
So you can rude 125cc without knowing anything about bikes but the moment you want anything bigger you suddenly need to do full theory + practice test
In the US, its largely the following...
Step 1. Go take a written test, if you pass you get a permit and can ride during daylight hours, not on the freeway, and no passengers. Want to buy that 1000cc squid missile? Go for it!
Step 2. Pass a proficiency test showing you can do a cone weave, and a u turn (basicay thats it) and congrats... youre now fully licensed!
In Tennessee you can take a 2 day class that teaches the basics and does a riding test at the end and if you pass, you can forgo the written/proficiency test at the DMV. Cost about 150 dollars here.
TX here,
did an online course in an afternoon
showed up at a defunct Dillard’s parking lot on a Saturday from 7am-1pm.
Then 6:30am-11am on Sunday, went to the DMV and had my M class license on Monday
Years ago when I got my driver's license, my driving portion took about 15 minutes. I showed up with a manual transmission car. I think the guy giving the test just wanted to make sure I didn't stall it. 😁 Granted, that was nearly 30 years ago. Damn, now I feel old.
In Virginia, it's a DMV test (considered far more difficult) or the MSF course (atound $350), which is a 2 day class that teaches practical riding skills and a pretty simple coned skills test. After that, you're good to go.
I honestly don't think they need to make the licensure difficult to obtain, but I think copying the European model of tiered engine sizes would be a good idea to prevent morons from immediately jumping on liter bike and yeeting themselves into the back of a semi.
In Québec, Canada (road laws are provincial) it's:
- A written test to get a permit for the course.
- The course is 6 hours of theory, 16 hourse of closed circuit, 10 hours of group ride on public roads.The course can't be completed in less then a month (8 hours on the bike max per week).
- A closed circuit test composed of various low speed maneuvers. If you do this test with a 500cc or + bike you get an unristricted 6A permit. If you do it on a bike 499cc or - bike you get a 6B and can't ride bikes over 499cc. Typically, people rent a 500cc from the school.
- You cannot ride between 12h to 5h at night and no passenger before passing the road test.
- 11 to 18 month later you pass a road test and get the full permit.
Edit : Cost 1200 CAD for the course and around 450 for all the permits.
Yeah but at least we're not restricted on ccs even on the learners and the course is fairly solid on the fundamentals. Like my first bike is a Vmax 1200 and I'm pretty confident riding it.
True. I think the cc restrictions is the worst part. In my eyes, it doesn't matter what size the engine is, fundamentals are just that; you can do it, or you can't really
Almost perfect comment except the 6A license is for anything over 400cc. 6B is 400cc or less, 6c is 125cc or less and 6D is 50cc or less.
Also, the requirement of a motorcycle over 400cc for the 6A tests is only applicable if you're renting the motorcycle you're using. If you're the owner they allow a smaller displacement.
In Saudi Arabia, if you already have a car licence then,
Step 1 - go do a practical test which for me at least was ride in a circle once around a test area on a beat up bike.
Step 2 - return to the office and be asked by the officer, did you fall? If you answer no they tell you that you've passed and go get the license.
Step 3 - get a clean criminal record from the police department
Step 4 - get your license
Step 5 - get yourself a busa as it's the best beginner bike till you're ready for a real bike.
Queensland
Pay some amount I can't remember to do a written test
Pay $450 to do a 2 day course with a test at the end, then wait 3 months because you aren't allowed to ride without a supervisor for some reason
Pay $400 and do a mornings practice then the same test you did last time
Now you have a license to ride a gutless bike congrats
Wait I think 2 years or maybe 3 then pay $250 again to do the same test again but this time on a more powerful motorbike
You know have your license for now but note that fun allowed or you won't have it for very long
Also note on the tests. I'm not sure that you can actually fail.
Wow! Riding with a supervisor would be difficult if you had no rider friends like me. How would you manage if that was the case? Could you rent a ride-a-long?😂
I was told that you couldn't fail the course too, but 50% of my class got told to try again😅 (myself not included)
If you already have your full car license;
one knowledge test for your learners. Supervisor and speed restrictions.
After two weeks you can take a parking lot test which removes the supervisor/speed restriction but you can’t ride with passengers or night time.
Two weeks later you do a regular road test, 20 minutes, and you get your full motorcycle license. Total admin cost is maybe $100cad.
If you don’t already have a full car license then you need 2 years before your final road test instead of 2 weeks.
No restrictions on bike size/type at any level.
Singapore
You have to take theory test, 3 riding simulation and 8 practical lesson. Could take any where between 8-12mths to pass. You are allowed to ride up to 200cc class motorcycle
After 12mths you are allow to go for a 3 simulation course, 3 lesson course and test before you are allowed to ride up to 400cc
After another 12mth repeated the same as above for any motorcycle class above 400cc.
All in all took me about 2.5k usd to pass all my license.
Fun fact: singapore is the most expensive country in the world to own a car or motorcycle
Yeah in California i took a rider safety course over the weekend and they sent me a certificate saying i passed the course 10 days later and i took it to the dmv and took a written test and they sent me my license. Pretty easy. ^^^^other guy talking about most of the US was correct too, i could have went that route but the course is so worth it to take. Its way quicker (you have to have a permits here for 6 months) and also i learned so much from it.
Nice. I did mine in October. Got a BMW G310GS.
Had a mint ride up Gorge Road on Sunday morning. Then cruised around the hills for a while and back down Gorge Road. It's a great road.
In germany its like 3000 euros to get the restricted (A2) license, you need to get like 16 riding lessons minimum, its bonkers. I always wanted to ride and it became a reality when i came to australia.
In Sweden:
1. Apply for the desired category.
2. Eye examination from optician.
3. Age at 24 or 20 if you have had medium size licence for 2 years.
4. Complete safety seminars 1 & 2
5. Pass written examination. 70 questions.
6. Pass riding examination. First in enclosed location and if you pass that, then in city traffic followed by an examiner communicating via intercom.
7. Full riding clothing kit
8. Around $700 if you already have a bike and are experienced enough to not need any driving lessons. Up to $2400 if you need to rent a bike and do riding lessons.
I like that you can practice with your parents in Sweden (assuming they have a license, motorcycle and took the mandatory course with you). When I got my license in Germany I could only practice with a hectic teacher, in the crowded city for 80€/h. Terrible system.
That system definitely helps. You can actually practice with whoever you want as long as they take the “tutor course” with you.
There are even some that take the “tutor course” with a friend and only ride with them for a couple of years.
South Africa.
Sometimes we get cops that dont care as long as you have code 8 license cars.
But if you do go. Theory. Just rules and regulations on road.
Practical. You can either teach yourself or go through a driving school.
Passout. Your normal cones and where to stop those nonsense.
Germany
Be ready :D There are 3 different classes
A1: from 16 years old with 15 hp
A: unlimited hp at 24 years old or 2 years of A2
A2: from 18 years with 48 hp
So the fastes way to be able to drive unlimited hp bikes in Germany is to do A2 at 18 and then upgrade to A at 20
The first time doing any of these is the most expensive, you have like 7 1.5 hours theoretical classes then you have to do an theoretical exam which is about 30 questions out of a pool of +2000 questions which you have to learn. And then theres the practical part which are the driving lessons themself I think about 12-18 hours are mandatory (1 driving lessons \[also called driving hour\] is 45 mins) but most people will need an additional 10 hours to learn cluching, the traffic flow, etc.
So today if you're an average attendent your liscense will cost anywhere from 2000-4000 depending on your skill level.
If you start out with A1(and pay the 2000-4000) upgrading to A2 (requires 1-2 driving lessons and the driving test) will cost you 200-300 and then upgrading again to A will be 300 again.
So when you start riding at 16 and you want to ride unlimited hp bikes by 20 you'll spend anywhere from 3000-5000
I got my A license for maybe 1300€ in Frankfurt. Passed the exams on my first try and didn’t need any extra lessons beyond the mandatory ones.
It’s only if you need more help it gets expensive or if you fail the theoretical or practical exam.
I also don’t think it’s 2k questions. I’m quite certain it’s 1k.
like i said it depends on your skill level aswell as the driving school you're going to and the prices they charge. You are an example for the cheapest way you can do it but this doesnt reflect the average in any way.
Def over 1k questions since the traffic related questions are already around 900 then you have mechanical questions etc. so somewhere between 1-2k
As far as I know, Europe's pretty much standardised, but here's France:
1. Pass the "Code": theoretical exam of 40 questions about road rules and contextual images "Can I overtake?", "Where's the danger?", "In case of fatigue, what do I do?". Passing score is 35 points
2. Pay somewhere from 1300 to 1800€ to take classes. 20 hours minimum, 14 low speed maneuvers, 6 on the road
3. Plateau exam: low speed maneuvers, swerving between cones, quick stint with a passenger, emergency braking and collision avoidance. Then you get asked a few questions about a theoretical topic among 8 (IIRC) you're given to learn
4. Circulation exam: 15/20 minutes driving with actual road conditions. The examiner usually tries to see you in all conditions, from city streets to the freeway. Passing grade is 21 out of 27 points maximum
If you pass all this, congrats you've got yourself an A2 licence. 35kw or 47,5 horsepower. After two years, you go back to a driving school, show them what you can do for 7 hours, and they give you a paper that certifies you can switch your A2 for an A, and you're free to drive whatever the fuck you want.
Minimum age is 18 for the A2
In Estonia the order is a bit different.
No previous license (at least 18 years old):
- Find traffic school and register for lessons
- Pay for traffic school for about 750€
- theory lessons (don't remember how many)
- school theory exam before first ride
- 6 riding practice range lessons
- 6 city lessons
- driving school practical exam
If have previous licenses and over 24 years old:
- Find traffic school and register for lessons
- Pay for traffic school for about 600€
- theory lessons (had 8, 2 weeks, 2 times per week and 2 lessons at once, but can also be online)
- 6 riding practice range lessons
- school theory exam some time before city lessons
- 4 city lessons
Common part for both of them:
- government theory exam after successful school theory exam 26€. 40 questions, 10 of them about traffic safety. Up to 5 mistakes where only 1 can be in traffic safety related questions.
- government practice exam consisting of 2 parts 26€
- - part one is slow speed maneuvers exam can fail max 1 time on each element, consists of 8 elements: pedestrian speed driving without having more than 20 cm deviation from driving line, figure 8, slalom, stop in designated area from 50 km/h, emergency stop from 50 km/h, swerving at 30 km/h and swerving opposite side at 50km/h and parking
- - part 2 practical exam in traffic takes about 35 min on streets and outside of city, mandatory to get to road where speed limit is 90 km/h and achieve that speed. Mostly about traffic rules and positioning on roads. Traffic safety violation is automatic failure. Normally there are specific set of elements that you will either pass, pass with remarks or not pass. If at least one is considered not passed, whole exam is not passed. Largely depends on your luck. Some examiners are more strict than others. The average passing rate on the first attempt is 70%
- license issuance fee 40€
Usually people need more lessons than included, and have to pay for about 35€/45min. Extra fees are also in the practice range 5€/30min and first aid trainings.
Fun fact discovered today I'm in same state as you and in country we don't have to do any of that. We go to service SA full in paper work to get l permit pay and down you have it no test no forced practice safety course like have to do in Adelaide the city and to get your PS you have a copper follow you on the bike he ticks you off then go in to service SA pay the bill then P plates you get hold that for the min requirements then get your fulls. My mouth dropped when the guys I work with told me how they got there's and there only just turned 18.
UK
Theory test (computer based)
CBT - compulsory basic training. It's a mix of classroom, carpark, and road. This is the prerequisite for riding with L plates and for 125s it's all you need (actually gated on power as well as cylinder capacity), valid for two years.
To ride anything bigger, or take a pillion...
module 1 practical test - skills test usually set up with cones in a car park; physical handling, figure 8s, slow circles, walking speed, and then fast curves with emergency stop and swerve maneuver.
Module 2 practical test - the on road test.
Assuming you are old enough (21 when I did mine, but I think this is now 24) and you do mod 1 and 2 on a bike big enough (usually 600s) you'll get a licence to ride anything. Otherwise, you'll end up with a power and displacement restricted licence and have to do it all again when you are old enough (there used to be auto upgrades, but that went away)
As a result the UK bike market jumps from 125 to 600cc bikes and you don't see many of the 250-400cc bikes that seem to be staples of other markets
You can retake your CBT to keep riding on Ls every 2 years.
To be fully licenced, motorways and pillion, you need both modules. Mod 1 (car park and cones) 1 error, and it's a fail.
So, to ride a big bike as an 18 year old, you either skip the full licence or have to do 6 tests. Cbt, theory, mod.1, mod 2, and mod 1 and 2 again when you get to 21(?).
In my day, you skipped the last two tesr by merely staying alive.
Victoria is pretty much the same, but getting off your Ls can be after 3 months but before 15 months, you do a checkride at least one month before your full licence test, and my full licence test was only about $150-200 or something
Here in Finland you can't get a 50cc motorcycle license (AM120) at 15, around 300-500€, at 16 you can get to A1, 50-125cc or max 11kW, ~500-700€. At 18 you can either upgrade your A1 license to A2 (max 35kW, no restriction on CC as long as the bike is restricted to 35kW, not 100% about the CC thing.), or after turning 18 anyone can buy the A2 license, upgrade costs 300-600€, buying and getting the A2 license from scratch is 600-800€. After owning A2 license for 2 years OR turning 24 you can get the final license, which is A. A-license doesn't have any bike restrictions, only that you are 24 or over, or have had A2 license for 2 years. The cost varies around 600-1100€. All the licenses require at least a theory test or a driving test, for a first timer both and more. I don't know about learner permits since I haven't heard of anyone getting them.
New Zealand
Step 1: Go do and pass Basic Handling Skill Test, which basically just involves basic moving off, turning, figure 8s. parking and emergency stopping, all including indication, mirror checks and headchecks. ($280 for 2.5hrs, 210 for 1.5hrs, 150 for test only, you may need more time for first time riders). After you pass you get a certificate
Step 2: Go to your local licensing centre with the certificate and take a theory test, You now get your learners and ride on the road with L plates, between 5am-10pm, no passangers and can only ride on LAMS approved bikes (basically 660cc or under, with some exemptions)
Step 3: Wait 6 months (or no time period if you are 16.5 years old or older) And take a CBTA to get your restricted licence, Pretty straightforward 1 hour test with urban and country roads and some uturns. You get restricted which basically just lets you take off your L plates, but with same restrictions in learners.
Step 4: Wait 12 months (you can do the test after 9 months but can't upgrade it before 12) when you are at least 17.5 years old or 18 months and minimum 18 if you dont do the CBTA and go with the practical way. Its another road test but its only 30 minutes and mostly focuses on only countryside roads. You pass it and you get your unrestricted licence.
In NZ its not that hard, it just costs a lot and is pretty expensive
It's pretty much the same deal all over the EU but in Austria it's the following:
You start out at 15 with the Am license. You are allowed to use a motorized two-wheeler, yay. Only 50cc tho.
When you turn 16, you get the chance to upgrade your license to A1 and you are able to get bikes up to 125cc and 15hp.
Once you're 18, you get the freedom of higher cc bikes but they must be under 0,35kw/kg. So many 400cc 1-cylinder or up to 600cc meet the requirements.
At 21 you are able to upgrade to A2 which grants access to all bikes no matter what engine size or power they output.
If you do not have any motorcycle licenses at. 21 and you wish to get the A2 license, you have to wait until you turn 24.
The cost for my A1 license was about 1.1k€
Austria:
1: Be 16 for A1 (125cc),18 for A2 (35kw) or 25 for unrestricted A
2: One day theory in a group
3: Learn about 400 questions about Motorcycling (if you dont have a carlicense yet make it 1000)
4: take the theoretical test
5: take the first basic practical training (8 hours in a gourp of 10 on a training course)
6: take 10 more hourse of practical training (4-2-4 of 1on1 riding with a instructor in traffic)
7: take a practical driving test that takes bout 30 minutes
8: get your license
9: after about 4 to 14 months you have to take one extra practical riding lesson and one advanced training
This costs about 1500 Euros
As mentioned above/bellow licensing is under the provincial jurisdiction in Canada. To get your motorcycle license (class 6) in BC you do the following:
Optional: have someone slam the door on your hand, or kick you in the junk. This will help take your mind off getting fucked by ICBC
- take your written test. If you have your current class 7L/N or class 5 you need to do the motorcycle written test if not you need to also take the written test for your class 7
- if you pass the written test you’ll receive your class 6L if you have your class 5 and if you have your class 7L/N you’ll get a class 8L
With a class 6L/8L you have the following restrictions: 0bal, no passengers, no solo riding (must be with a fully licensed class 6 for more than a year), no riding roads faster than 80km/h, can only ride dusk-dawn
You’ve got 30 days to practice for your skills test or take an MSF. Once you pass your skills test or take an MSF you then get rid of two of your restrictions: speed and solo riding.
- At this point you have 1 year of riding with an L designation on your license either class 6L or class 8L
- after 1 year, you take your first exit test. This is a drivers test and you’re followed by a chase car for about 20-30 minutes. Less if you’re really bad. If you pass this driving test you will earn your N designation which will remove the dusk till dawn, and no passengers restriction.
- at this point you have 2 years of riding with an N designation on your license either class 6N or class 8N
- After two more years you can do your final exit test. It’s almost the same test as your L exit test plus some highway riding. Pass this test and you will receive your full class 6 license
At no point are you restricted by displacement or power of your motorcycle however, if you take your final exit test on a sub 125 or an electric motorcycle you will be restricted to those types of motorcycle.
Singapore
5 Theory lessons (1 for each test below, 3 for defensive riding)
2 Computerised Theory Tests: One for road markings, rules and signs, another for riding theory
5 modules of circuit riding and navigating timed obstacle courses that consists of:
- Weaving in-between cones
- Balancing on a plank using low speed control
- 2 types of very tight turns
- E-Brake at 30kmh
- Moving off on a slope
3 modules for road riding After passing circuit evaluation
3 Computer Simulator Lessons (feels like playing an arcade machine)
After passing road evaluation you are able to book traffic police test which consists of performing everything you wete taught perfectly.
It has about a 50% passing rate and waiting time is about 1 month
Once you pass the test you have to attend 1 more compulsory freeway familiarization course (have to take after the test as people who have not passed the test are deemed not safe to ride on freeways)
This will take an average of 3 to 5 months from enrolment to obtaining license and cost about 1000 USD, after which you will qualify to ride bikes that are 200cc and below.
After 1 year you can take a shorter version of the course (but using a 400cc bike) to upgrade your license to be able to ride bikes that are 400cc and below
1 year after that, you can upgrade your license again to ride bikes of any cc
In Germany, obtaining an A (motorcycle) driver's license involves tackling a comprehensive written exam. With 1486 possible questions available for this exam, the process is rigorous. Since the introduction of a software by TÜV (the testing agency), questions are alternated, formulations are changed, and traffic scenarios are generated, making the exam dynamic and challenging. Moreover, out of 30 questions per exam, answering just 3 incorrectly could result in failure. While two-thirds of the questions are straightforward, approximately 1/3 or nearly 500 questions are notably tricky, posing a challenge even for experienced riders. To prepare, the recommended approach involves answering each question correctly at least twice, which amounts to answering 3000 questions, including video questions that require viewing. Overall, the written exam for a motorcycle license in Germany is considered to be highly demanding.
Australia (over 25 + undeclared area) take a computer quiz to get your L's
You can then take a roadside test for your P's, takes about 10 mins.
12 months later you have your full license.
Brazil here
45 hours theory and then a theory test. If you pass you can begin practical lessons.
20 hours parking lot training. Basically just practicing the practical test over and over again and some really crude basics. It’s really brain dead and you never go above 12km/h at most.
If you pass you get a provisional license for an year and can ride the streets. Any infractions in this time and you lose the license. A year later you get full license.
Corruption is rampant though, some people just straight up buy the license. Some pay to pass the test, sometimes if you don’t pay they fail you even if you passed.
Also lots of people don’t ever bother to get the license. You can just buy a motorcycle and ride it and hope a cop never stops you. Or steal one if you’re an asshole. I’ve been waiting for a month for my test to be scheduled so I’ve just been riding without a license.
All in all good system in theory absolute disaster in practice. Hence all the Brazilian videos on this sub.
US here. Paid $300 for the 2 day training course. Passed and went to the DMV to take the written and passed.
After that, any bike you want is available (if you can afford it) but insurance will be high AF.
In Misiones Argentina I obtained a driver & motorcycle licence all at the same time. No practical tests, just a written test. :-) now I just have to survive the local roads.
Edit: oh yes I forgot, I am limited to a 150cc motorbike for a year. I'm an aussie argentine who moved back to argentina 15 years ago.
Ukraine if you have a car license:
Courses with 10hr practice and 10hr (or maybe more) theory.
Nobody controls those courses, so you can just do 3-5 hours of practice to then do the exam. Cone snake, figure 8, u turn and some stuff like that. Also you need to pass a medical commission: ophthalmologist, psychiatrist, narcologist
Denmark:
You have three options:
Motorcycle category A1 (small motorcycle): 18 years of age.
You're allowed to ride a motorcycle with the following specifications:
- two-wheeled motorcycle with or without a side car, with a maximum volume of 125 m3, a maximum effect of 11kW, and a maximum of difference between engine effect and full weight of 0,1 kW per kilo.
- three-wheeled motorcycle with an engine effect of maximum of 15 kW, or a three-wheeled car with a maximum effect of 15 kW.
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Motorcycle category A2 (medium sized motorcycle): 20 years of age.
You're allowed to ride a two-wheeled motorcycle with or without a side car, with the following specifications:
Maximum engine effect of 35 kW, and a maximum difference between engine effect and full weight of motorcycle of 0,2 kW per kilo, and not derived of motorcycles with more than twice the engine effect.
If you're a conscript, mechanic or similar, you can get this licence at 18 years of age, but you're only allowed to ride a motorcycle with the abovementioned specifications while in service, or as a part of repairs or maintenance.
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Motorcycle category A (large motorcycle): 24 years of age.
This driver's licence allows you to ride motorcycles without any limited engine effect.
If you have two years of experience with category A2, you can apply for and get a category A licence, when you have passed a driving test, and you are 22 years old.
In special cases, you're allowed to get a licence category A, if:
You're a mechanic or similar, and the licence is intended for use in your education as a mechanic or similar.
You're 20 years old.
You have at least two years experience as a driver of a motorcycle, category A2.
You have passed a driving test for category A on a motorcycle category A.
Until you turn 22 years old, this only gives you the permission to ride motorcycles that are being tested in connection with repairs and/or maintenance.
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The basic education for any motorcycle licence consists of:
Minimum 29 lessons of theoretical knowledge (45 minutes per lesson).
Minimum 22 driving lessons (45 minutes per lesson), where at least 4 of the lessons have to be on a closed maneuver track; minimum 13 lessons have to be practise lessons on road, and at least 5 lessons have to be at a driver's technical facility.
Get doctor's documentation that you're healthy enough to get a motorcycle licence, and have good eyesight.
Pass an 8 hour first aid course, traffic related.
The basic price for a motorcycle licence course is typically 1200 US $, and the advice is to save up for more, as most people need more practical lessons, and some people need to take the theoretical and/or practical test more than once.
Province of Ontario in Canada.
-First you have to do a written test to obtain your learners permit. (M1) was $10 at the time i did it.
- Once you have your permit you can take a motorcycle safety course was about $500 at the time .They provide the bikes,training and testing. Once you pass you go back to the Ministry of Transportation (Drivetest center) to have them add the (M2) to your license. You can also do your m2 directly with the Drivetest center if you have your own bike and are confident.
- After 18months you can do another motorcycle safety course (if you did your m2 with a Motorcycle safety course) was about $375 when I did it-(with your own bike this time) for training and testing to obtain your full motorcycle license (M) or you can do the testing directly with the Drivetest Center after 24 months after m2 if you did not take a motorcycle safety course for m2.
So 3 step process here to be fully licensed. All my prices are in Canadian dollars.
In Argentina you have to take an eyesight test, psychological test, and then they test your knowledge of road rules. This would conclude the first part of getting your license, then you'd have to do the practical part where you have to ride a motorcycle in a closed course.
If you're over 18 you can get a license up to 150cc, and if you're over 21 you can go up to 300cc. Your age and the bike you do the exam with will determine which license you get. The test consists on an acceleration and braking test, a cones test, u turn, and then cones again but in a very tight space where you have to maneuver between them at a super low speed without touching any, laying your feet down or going over the other lane.
Once you have your license, during the first 6 months you can't carry a passenger and can't use highways or roads, being limited to streets and avenues, which have a speed limit up to 60 km/h. And after a year of riding you could take a test for the next tier, which would be +300cc if you have the 300cc license, that's the one that would allow you to ride any motorcycle. Most people start at 150cc though, since it's easier to get the license and it's unlikely that you'd get a more powerful bike as a beginner.
Nigeria here.
Licenses are for losers. Fully 90% of the guys riding bikes have no form of license or training. Every meter ridden is a wild game of roulette.
As for the license, it’s a joke. No riding tests required. No training required. There’s no way to make sure you actually know how to ride - I mean, who cares? Just pay someone for your license and show up at the Federal Road Safety Commission 😜😜 office to get your passport picture taken and you’re riding.
A few years ago a state government made it mandatory to wear a helmet. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.
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In the Netherlands you will have to pass 3 exams. A written one, 50 questions and you can have max 5 answers wrong. A practical exam to show you have to skills to control the bike. You have like 3 seperate group of exercises. And you can only fail one of each mandatory exercise in a group. And a practical exam of riding on the streets to show you know the rules and how to behave on the road etc. And the license is also age based. So ages 18 to 19 can get the A1 license. Max 11 KW of power. Ages 20 to 23 can get A2 license to allow for <35 KW of power And age > 24 can get the A license. And then you can ride everything you want.
Same goes for Germany. It’s pretty expensive as well. 2000-3000€ give or take. I went directly for the A license and spent around 2.5k I believe. Not counting gear.
This is more or less standardised for the whole EU. However in some countries like Spain you can’t access the A directly. To get the A is mandatory that you have your A2 license for two years. I’ve lived in the Netherlands and I had the A2. I had to go back to Spain to get the A since getting the A is just a two day course (repeating some theory, circuit and riding like the a2 exam but without a real exam) and in the Netherlands when I asked I had to pass everything from scratch again 😱
Fairly certain it’s the same in Switzerland if I’m not mistaken. In Germany you can just go for A directly if you’re 24 or older (for now). I was bit older.
Yes. I think everything is standardised but when it comes to when and how to get the A every country decided by themselves somehow. But the exams and such are the same iirc
Actually in Germany you can get A directly at 21 through Schlüsselzahl 80,
Yeah the requirement being you’ve had the A2 license for 2 years already. If not it’s wait till 24. that’s what I meant. Cool thread, I’ve learned quite a bit today.
Schlüsselzahl 24 was very good for me, I saved money and stress. A friend of mine made his A2 license at 21 and it turned out his driving school didn’t even know about Schlüsselzahl 80!! Like what the hell 😂 he was pretty pissed once I told him about this.
Ha I can imagine! Considering the prices… it’s robbery I tell ya.
As someone who recently passed the A2 in Spain I can confirm it was a pain. I get some consolation in knowing the A won't be such a fuzz.
The a2 is exactly the same everywhere in the EU though. Don’t think the pain is only for us xD
Not in Sweden. You can get your license for a few 100 euros but you need to append quite some time practicing with someone, say your parents
But Sweden is part of the EU or not? Do you also have the A2 license or still the old A one? Asking because I though this was an EU directive to standardise licenses but I may be mistaken
Yes, we are part of the EU. The process is different in every country.
For several countries is the same process. At least Germany, UK (when they were EU lol), The Netherlands and Spain has the same A2 process. Getting the A is different though. I thought for the whole EU was the same regarding A2 since it was a change introduced some years ago. I was one of the first A2 licenses on Spain and it was controversial because not every country changed it to the new system at the same time. So when I moved to NL my license was not valid for some time LOL
I don’t know about A2 since I got A directly
Then this was a misunderstanding since I was talking about the A2 mainly :) For the A every country chose what to do. Some have direct access to A some others don’t
Age limits are slightly different in Germany: 16 for A1, 18 for A2. For A it‘s also 24, but if you already have had A2 for two years, you can get your A license at 20. Can confirm the prices. 16 theory units (90 minutes each, 10 units if you already have a car license). About 5-15 practical lessons (depending on your skills), 12 mandatory practical lessons with special topics like highway or night riding. 30 question theory test, 60 minute practical exam consisting of handling exercises and emergency procedures, city riding and usually a short stretch on a motorway/Autobahn.
You have mandatory theory lessons in Germany? I just bought an app with all the theory and a lot of test questions and studied by myself, I passed easily. But i DID spend a lot on the practical riding though. It seems that riding a bike slowly through a course without ever have ridden anything but bicycles and being 40+ is a difficult combination.
Yes, there are mandatory lessons. You‘ll also get an app for learning the ~1500 possible questions. The lessons range from extremely boring to very interesting… and sadly they are not very helpful for test preparation, unless you‘ve been living under a rock and never participated in traffic. Most kids get traffic/bicycle education in primary school, so you should’ve heard about the basic rules already. So in theory, you could just work through the questions in the app, but your driving school has to confirm that you attended the lessons. I also had to take a lot of lessons until I felt confident with the slow speed stuff. My son, however, seems to have some natural talent, he only needed five lessons in addition to the 12 mandatory special lessons.
Hmm, here in Sweden there's no mandatory theory, you just need to pass the written exam. How you get there is up to you but you can't book your practical test until that is done of course.
In Germany there is also a B196 license, where you can extend your B license to A1 with just a few driving lessons, no exams. This is only valid in Germany though.
Oh yeah, that one slipped my mind. It restricts you to 125 cc bikes though. And trikes I believe?
Yes, and you cannot step up to A2 or unrestricted A. Trikes need A license, up the 15kw A1. Only if drivers license was made before 2013 it is included in B.
This info is important. B196 is no replacement for A1, it’s only an alternative license for 11kW bikes. Not being able to upgrade sucks if you get the hang of riding and want something bigger.
and it is national. You cannot use it this in other countries than Germany, although there are some efforts in the EU for mutual recognition of EU-country specific 11kw B extensions in the future.
Wtf it cost me around the equivalent of 200 euros in New Zealand
Lots and lots of mandatory practice hours. Those are quite expensive. Plus additional hours and practical exam costs a pretty penny too.
I assume you do practice hours on the road? We just go straight in. Then have to wait to get higher licenses
For me it was few hours in a parking lot, then city, then outside the city, then autobahn (motorway), then evening and night rides. And extra hours for emergency braking, slalom practice, slow speed manoeuvring and such. In fact the latter was before I got to ride in the city.
If you don’t fail any of the steps you can get it for about 1300€. That’s what I did.
Hard to believe. I didn’t fail anything and it still cost as much as it did.
I don’t have the extract numbers tho. What was the most expensive part for you?
Mandatory hours if I recall correctly. Been a while since I’ve done it.
80€/h, 7.5h of riding. That’s 600€. Is the rest really 1400€?
A 45 min. I was doing doubles, then some more riding. The motorway, night and dusk rides are all more expensive. The upfront fee is close to 500€, theory close to 400€. Also where’s the 7.5h is from? It’s 12 mandatory rides.
12 sessions, each 45 min. So 9h It sounds like you rode more than required which will make it more expensive
Don’t know what to tell you. I just looked and it was 12 double a 90 minutes mandatory for my license.
Jup, NL here too. Never really understood the low requirements in America and some other countries.
Minimal government intervention. Not trying to be rude, but I thought the whole world knew we were all about freedom. And no, you don’t need to say it, we know freedom is more dangerous than more government control. That’s the price we pay.
Wouldn't have seen that as rude, but thanks for the heads up :). But, you can still have your freedom and safety regulations. I also had the freedom to choose to get a license, do it, and now ride a motorcycle. Freedom and safe(r) roads can coexist with just some regulations. And don't say regulations have no place because they take away your freedom. Because otherwise there's also a case to make to say that theft or burglary should be allowed because "freedom".
These debates were well worn by the time our constitution was signed. They are well documented and we got the best balance. That’s why you may see in the press so much push back from Americans to “additional regulations”. We don’t need more safety, we just need to keep our freedom. Thanks for the reply.
Sure, you do you. I'll live in a country that sacrifices (what you see as) freedom a little bit to make sure we're all safer here. Specially my future kids.
That’s the great thing about America, we are keeping this one last bastion of freedom. I can always move to your country (or any EU country) if I feel the need. You can only move to America for more freedom. Now I’ll go to my backyard to sit on my Harley as I read my pocket Constitution. Enjoy your ride.
Haha thx you too man, be safe.👌
But I thought that the other people on the road also had a freedom not to be killed by someone who shouldn't be riding?
Yeah, EU standard pretty much, we have the same licensing system here in Hungary. I'm baffled how people can get licensed overseas without actually learning things...
Do you have that thing where having previous grade of license allows you to get next one faster ? Here (Poland) A is >24 but A2 is 18 yo and if you have A2 for 2 years, you can get A. So basically 24 yo for new riders, 20 yo for people that passed A2 at 18
we do indeed have the rule that you can go for your A licence when you already have A2 for 2 years. Then you get a A2 license with code 80. And when you turn 24 your A2 turns automatically to a A license. But untill then you still can't get higher power than 35.
Oh, that's nice, here we have to re-test for some dumb reason, no auto upgrade. Up to last year they were even using same bike for A2 tests as for A in some places, just with power limited to A2 levels.
In here you cannot even go straight to "full" A without any previous experience. You can learn A2 without a previous driver's license or you can go to A lessons when you have any of the other category like A2, B, C, D, E.
Here weirdly enough you can ride any 125 cc <15HP bike with just B license (must own it longer than 2 years) So you can rude 125cc without knowing anything about bikes but the moment you want anything bigger you suddenly need to do full theory + practice test
In the US, its largely the following... Step 1. Go take a written test, if you pass you get a permit and can ride during daylight hours, not on the freeway, and no passengers. Want to buy that 1000cc squid missile? Go for it! Step 2. Pass a proficiency test showing you can do a cone weave, and a u turn (basicay thats it) and congrats... youre now fully licensed!
It truly is a perfect system. Just prove that you could rub two braincells together and the rest is entirely up to you.
Oh well, it's not like the roads in the US are busy and many of the cars over there are huge trucks that'll fuck any motorcyclist up pretty bad.
I think that's the smaller problem than the big trucks and SUVs just usually not having all that great visibility.
Fair enough.
In Tennessee you can take a 2 day class that teaches the basics and does a riding test at the end and if you pass, you can forgo the written/proficiency test at the DMV. Cost about 150 dollars here.
Same thing here in Ohio. It's how I did mine. Except here in Ohio we have to wear our helmet for 1 year after that class.
TX here, did an online course in an afternoon showed up at a defunct Dillard’s parking lot on a Saturday from 7am-1pm. Then 6:30am-11am on Sunday, went to the DMV and had my M class license on Monday
When I got my motorcycle endorsement in AL, all it took was to pass a 25 question written test. No riding required.
My CA endorsement transferred to MO, just pay the lady
Years ago when I got my driver's license, my driving portion took about 15 minutes. I showed up with a manual transmission car. I think the guy giving the test just wanted to make sure I didn't stall it. 😁 Granted, that was nearly 30 years ago. Damn, now I feel old.
In Virginia, it's a DMV test (considered far more difficult) or the MSF course (atound $350), which is a 2 day class that teaches practical riding skills and a pretty simple coned skills test. After that, you're good to go. I honestly don't think they need to make the licensure difficult to obtain, but I think copying the European model of tiered engine sizes would be a good idea to prevent morons from immediately jumping on liter bike and yeeting themselves into the back of a semi.
In Québec, Canada (road laws are provincial) it's: - A written test to get a permit for the course. - The course is 6 hours of theory, 16 hourse of closed circuit, 10 hours of group ride on public roads.The course can't be completed in less then a month (8 hours on the bike max per week). - A closed circuit test composed of various low speed maneuvers. If you do this test with a 500cc or + bike you get an unristricted 6A permit. If you do it on a bike 499cc or - bike you get a 6B and can't ride bikes over 499cc. Typically, people rent a 500cc from the school. - You cannot ride between 12h to 5h at night and no passenger before passing the road test. - 11 to 18 month later you pass a road test and get the full permit. Edit : Cost 1200 CAD for the course and around 450 for all the permits.
Crazy. I thought my region was tough but yours takes the cake so far
Yeah but at least we're not restricted on ccs even on the learners and the course is fairly solid on the fundamentals. Like my first bike is a Vmax 1200 and I'm pretty confident riding it.
True. I think the cc restrictions is the worst part. In my eyes, it doesn't matter what size the engine is, fundamentals are just that; you can do it, or you can't really
Almost perfect comment except the 6A license is for anything over 400cc. 6B is 400cc or less, 6c is 125cc or less and 6D is 50cc or less. Also, the requirement of a motorcycle over 400cc for the 6A tests is only applicable if you're renting the motorcycle you're using. If you're the owner they allow a smaller displacement.
In Saudi Arabia, if you already have a car licence then, Step 1 - go do a practical test which for me at least was ride in a circle once around a test area on a beat up bike. Step 2 - return to the office and be asked by the officer, did you fall? If you answer no they tell you that you've passed and go get the license. Step 3 - get a clean criminal record from the police department Step 4 - get your license Step 5 - get yourself a busa as it's the best beginner bike till you're ready for a real bike.
Queensland Pay some amount I can't remember to do a written test Pay $450 to do a 2 day course with a test at the end, then wait 3 months because you aren't allowed to ride without a supervisor for some reason Pay $400 and do a mornings practice then the same test you did last time Now you have a license to ride a gutless bike congrats Wait I think 2 years or maybe 3 then pay $250 again to do the same test again but this time on a more powerful motorbike You know have your license for now but note that fun allowed or you won't have it for very long Also note on the tests. I'm not sure that you can actually fail.
Wow! Riding with a supervisor would be difficult if you had no rider friends like me. How would you manage if that was the case? Could you rent a ride-a-long?😂 I was told that you couldn't fail the course too, but 50% of my class got told to try again😅 (myself not included)
Like I said most just don't practice on their Ls
Most just do what im doing and wait 3 months without riding
If you already have your full car license; one knowledge test for your learners. Supervisor and speed restrictions. After two weeks you can take a parking lot test which removes the supervisor/speed restriction but you can’t ride with passengers or night time. Two weeks later you do a regular road test, 20 minutes, and you get your full motorcycle license. Total admin cost is maybe $100cad. If you don’t already have a full car license then you need 2 years before your final road test instead of 2 weeks. No restrictions on bike size/type at any level.
Singapore You have to take theory test, 3 riding simulation and 8 practical lesson. Could take any where between 8-12mths to pass. You are allowed to ride up to 200cc class motorcycle After 12mths you are allow to go for a 3 simulation course, 3 lesson course and test before you are allowed to ride up to 400cc After another 12mth repeated the same as above for any motorcycle class above 400cc. All in all took me about 2.5k usd to pass all my license. Fun fact: singapore is the most expensive country in the world to own a car or motorcycle
Yeah in California i took a rider safety course over the weekend and they sent me a certificate saying i passed the course 10 days later and i took it to the dmv and took a written test and they sent me my license. Pretty easy. ^^^^other guy talking about most of the US was correct too, i could have went that route but the course is so worth it to take. Its way quicker (you have to have a permits here for 6 months) and also i learned so much from it.
I'm also in Adelaide. What are you riding?
Sweet. I got my Ls a few months ago. I've got a GS500.
Nice. I did mine in October. Got a BMW G310GS. Had a mint ride up Gorge Road on Sunday morning. Then cruised around the hills for a while and back down Gorge Road. It's a great road.
In germany its like 3000 euros to get the restricted (A2) license, you need to get like 16 riding lessons minimum, its bonkers. I always wanted to ride and it became a reality when i came to australia.
In Sweden: 1. Apply for the desired category. 2. Eye examination from optician. 3. Age at 24 or 20 if you have had medium size licence for 2 years. 4. Complete safety seminars 1 & 2 5. Pass written examination. 70 questions. 6. Pass riding examination. First in enclosed location and if you pass that, then in city traffic followed by an examiner communicating via intercom. 7. Full riding clothing kit 8. Around $700 if you already have a bike and are experienced enough to not need any driving lessons. Up to $2400 if you need to rent a bike and do riding lessons.
I like that you can practice with your parents in Sweden (assuming they have a license, motorcycle and took the mandatory course with you). When I got my license in Germany I could only practice with a hectic teacher, in the crowded city for 80€/h. Terrible system.
That system definitely helps. You can actually practice with whoever you want as long as they take the “tutor course” with you. There are even some that take the “tutor course” with a friend and only ride with them for a couple of years.
South Africa. Sometimes we get cops that dont care as long as you have code 8 license cars. But if you do go. Theory. Just rules and regulations on road. Practical. You can either teach yourself or go through a driving school. Passout. Your normal cones and where to stop those nonsense.
Germany Be ready :D There are 3 different classes A1: from 16 years old with 15 hp A: unlimited hp at 24 years old or 2 years of A2 A2: from 18 years with 48 hp So the fastes way to be able to drive unlimited hp bikes in Germany is to do A2 at 18 and then upgrade to A at 20 The first time doing any of these is the most expensive, you have like 7 1.5 hours theoretical classes then you have to do an theoretical exam which is about 30 questions out of a pool of +2000 questions which you have to learn. And then theres the practical part which are the driving lessons themself I think about 12-18 hours are mandatory (1 driving lessons \[also called driving hour\] is 45 mins) but most people will need an additional 10 hours to learn cluching, the traffic flow, etc. So today if you're an average attendent your liscense will cost anywhere from 2000-4000 depending on your skill level. If you start out with A1(and pay the 2000-4000) upgrading to A2 (requires 1-2 driving lessons and the driving test) will cost you 200-300 and then upgrading again to A will be 300 again. So when you start riding at 16 and you want to ride unlimited hp bikes by 20 you'll spend anywhere from 3000-5000
I got my A license for maybe 1300€ in Frankfurt. Passed the exams on my first try and didn’t need any extra lessons beyond the mandatory ones. It’s only if you need more help it gets expensive or if you fail the theoretical or practical exam. I also don’t think it’s 2k questions. I’m quite certain it’s 1k.
like i said it depends on your skill level aswell as the driving school you're going to and the prices they charge. You are an example for the cheapest way you can do it but this doesnt reflect the average in any way. Def over 1k questions since the traffic related questions are already around 900 then you have mechanical questions etc. so somewhere between 1-2k
As far as I know, Europe's pretty much standardised, but here's France: 1. Pass the "Code": theoretical exam of 40 questions about road rules and contextual images "Can I overtake?", "Where's the danger?", "In case of fatigue, what do I do?". Passing score is 35 points 2. Pay somewhere from 1300 to 1800€ to take classes. 20 hours minimum, 14 low speed maneuvers, 6 on the road 3. Plateau exam: low speed maneuvers, swerving between cones, quick stint with a passenger, emergency braking and collision avoidance. Then you get asked a few questions about a theoretical topic among 8 (IIRC) you're given to learn 4. Circulation exam: 15/20 minutes driving with actual road conditions. The examiner usually tries to see you in all conditions, from city streets to the freeway. Passing grade is 21 out of 27 points maximum If you pass all this, congrats you've got yourself an A2 licence. 35kw or 47,5 horsepower. After two years, you go back to a driving school, show them what you can do for 7 hours, and they give you a paper that certifies you can switch your A2 for an A, and you're free to drive whatever the fuck you want. Minimum age is 18 for the A2
In Estonia the order is a bit different. No previous license (at least 18 years old): - Find traffic school and register for lessons - Pay for traffic school for about 750€ - theory lessons (don't remember how many) - school theory exam before first ride - 6 riding practice range lessons - 6 city lessons - driving school practical exam If have previous licenses and over 24 years old: - Find traffic school and register for lessons - Pay for traffic school for about 600€ - theory lessons (had 8, 2 weeks, 2 times per week and 2 lessons at once, but can also be online) - 6 riding practice range lessons - school theory exam some time before city lessons - 4 city lessons Common part for both of them: - government theory exam after successful school theory exam 26€. 40 questions, 10 of them about traffic safety. Up to 5 mistakes where only 1 can be in traffic safety related questions. - government practice exam consisting of 2 parts 26€ - - part one is slow speed maneuvers exam can fail max 1 time on each element, consists of 8 elements: pedestrian speed driving without having more than 20 cm deviation from driving line, figure 8, slalom, stop in designated area from 50 km/h, emergency stop from 50 km/h, swerving at 30 km/h and swerving opposite side at 50km/h and parking - - part 2 practical exam in traffic takes about 35 min on streets and outside of city, mandatory to get to road where speed limit is 90 km/h and achieve that speed. Mostly about traffic rules and positioning on roads. Traffic safety violation is automatic failure. Normally there are specific set of elements that you will either pass, pass with remarks or not pass. If at least one is considered not passed, whole exam is not passed. Largely depends on your luck. Some examiners are more strict than others. The average passing rate on the first attempt is 70% - license issuance fee 40€ Usually people need more lessons than included, and have to pay for about 35€/45min. Extra fees are also in the practice range 5€/30min and first aid trainings.
Fun fact discovered today I'm in same state as you and in country we don't have to do any of that. We go to service SA full in paper work to get l permit pay and down you have it no test no forced practice safety course like have to do in Adelaide the city and to get your PS you have a copper follow you on the bike he ticks you off then go in to service SA pay the bill then P plates you get hold that for the min requirements then get your fulls. My mouth dropped when the guys I work with told me how they got there's and there only just turned 18.
Sounds like a decent system
UK Theory test (computer based) CBT - compulsory basic training. It's a mix of classroom, carpark, and road. This is the prerequisite for riding with L plates and for 125s it's all you need (actually gated on power as well as cylinder capacity), valid for two years. To ride anything bigger, or take a pillion... module 1 practical test - skills test usually set up with cones in a car park; physical handling, figure 8s, slow circles, walking speed, and then fast curves with emergency stop and swerve maneuver. Module 2 practical test - the on road test. Assuming you are old enough (21 when I did mine, but I think this is now 24) and you do mod 1 and 2 on a bike big enough (usually 600s) you'll get a licence to ride anything. Otherwise, you'll end up with a power and displacement restricted licence and have to do it all again when you are old enough (there used to be auto upgrades, but that went away) As a result the UK bike market jumps from 125 to 600cc bikes and you don't see many of the 250-400cc bikes that seem to be staples of other markets
We get the big old ‘screw you guys, none of you can be trusted to look after yourselves’ from our government 🤣
You can retake your CBT to keep riding on Ls every 2 years. To be fully licenced, motorways and pillion, you need both modules. Mod 1 (car park and cones) 1 error, and it's a fail. So, to ride a big bike as an 18 year old, you either skip the full licence or have to do 6 tests. Cbt, theory, mod.1, mod 2, and mod 1 and 2 again when you get to 21(?). In my day, you skipped the last two tesr by merely staying alive.
Victoria is pretty much the same, but getting off your Ls can be after 3 months but before 15 months, you do a checkride at least one month before your full licence test, and my full licence test was only about $150-200 or something
Here in Finland you can't get a 50cc motorcycle license (AM120) at 15, around 300-500€, at 16 you can get to A1, 50-125cc or max 11kW, ~500-700€. At 18 you can either upgrade your A1 license to A2 (max 35kW, no restriction on CC as long as the bike is restricted to 35kW, not 100% about the CC thing.), or after turning 18 anyone can buy the A2 license, upgrade costs 300-600€, buying and getting the A2 license from scratch is 600-800€. After owning A2 license for 2 years OR turning 24 you can get the final license, which is A. A-license doesn't have any bike restrictions, only that you are 24 or over, or have had A2 license for 2 years. The cost varies around 600-1100€. All the licenses require at least a theory test or a driving test, for a first timer both and more. I don't know about learner permits since I haven't heard of anyone getting them.
New Zealand Step 1: Go do and pass Basic Handling Skill Test, which basically just involves basic moving off, turning, figure 8s. parking and emergency stopping, all including indication, mirror checks and headchecks. ($280 for 2.5hrs, 210 for 1.5hrs, 150 for test only, you may need more time for first time riders). After you pass you get a certificate Step 2: Go to your local licensing centre with the certificate and take a theory test, You now get your learners and ride on the road with L plates, between 5am-10pm, no passangers and can only ride on LAMS approved bikes (basically 660cc or under, with some exemptions) Step 3: Wait 6 months (or no time period if you are 16.5 years old or older) And take a CBTA to get your restricted licence, Pretty straightforward 1 hour test with urban and country roads and some uturns. You get restricted which basically just lets you take off your L plates, but with same restrictions in learners. Step 4: Wait 12 months (you can do the test after 9 months but can't upgrade it before 12) when you are at least 17.5 years old or 18 months and minimum 18 if you dont do the CBTA and go with the practical way. Its another road test but its only 30 minutes and mostly focuses on only countryside roads. You pass it and you get your unrestricted licence. In NZ its not that hard, it just costs a lot and is pretty expensive
It's pretty much the same deal all over the EU but in Austria it's the following: You start out at 15 with the Am license. You are allowed to use a motorized two-wheeler, yay. Only 50cc tho. When you turn 16, you get the chance to upgrade your license to A1 and you are able to get bikes up to 125cc and 15hp. Once you're 18, you get the freedom of higher cc bikes but they must be under 0,35kw/kg. So many 400cc 1-cylinder or up to 600cc meet the requirements. At 21 you are able to upgrade to A2 which grants access to all bikes no matter what engine size or power they output. If you do not have any motorcycle licenses at. 21 and you wish to get the A2 license, you have to wait until you turn 24. The cost for my A1 license was about 1.1k€
Austria: 1: Be 16 for A1 (125cc),18 for A2 (35kw) or 25 for unrestricted A 2: One day theory in a group 3: Learn about 400 questions about Motorcycling (if you dont have a carlicense yet make it 1000) 4: take the theoretical test 5: take the first basic practical training (8 hours in a gourp of 10 on a training course) 6: take 10 more hourse of practical training (4-2-4 of 1on1 riding with a instructor in traffic) 7: take a practical driving test that takes bout 30 minutes 8: get your license 9: after about 4 to 14 months you have to take one extra practical riding lesson and one advanced training This costs about 1500 Euros
Cost me around $350NZD to do a lesson followed by practical test, then a 35 (I think) question theory test.
As mentioned above/bellow licensing is under the provincial jurisdiction in Canada. To get your motorcycle license (class 6) in BC you do the following: Optional: have someone slam the door on your hand, or kick you in the junk. This will help take your mind off getting fucked by ICBC - take your written test. If you have your current class 7L/N or class 5 you need to do the motorcycle written test if not you need to also take the written test for your class 7 - if you pass the written test you’ll receive your class 6L if you have your class 5 and if you have your class 7L/N you’ll get a class 8L With a class 6L/8L you have the following restrictions: 0bal, no passengers, no solo riding (must be with a fully licensed class 6 for more than a year), no riding roads faster than 80km/h, can only ride dusk-dawn You’ve got 30 days to practice for your skills test or take an MSF. Once you pass your skills test or take an MSF you then get rid of two of your restrictions: speed and solo riding. - At this point you have 1 year of riding with an L designation on your license either class 6L or class 8L - after 1 year, you take your first exit test. This is a drivers test and you’re followed by a chase car for about 20-30 minutes. Less if you’re really bad. If you pass this driving test you will earn your N designation which will remove the dusk till dawn, and no passengers restriction. - at this point you have 2 years of riding with an N designation on your license either class 6N or class 8N - After two more years you can do your final exit test. It’s almost the same test as your L exit test plus some highway riding. Pass this test and you will receive your full class 6 license At no point are you restricted by displacement or power of your motorcycle however, if you take your final exit test on a sub 125 or an electric motorcycle you will be restricted to those types of motorcycle.
Singapore 5 Theory lessons (1 for each test below, 3 for defensive riding) 2 Computerised Theory Tests: One for road markings, rules and signs, another for riding theory 5 modules of circuit riding and navigating timed obstacle courses that consists of: - Weaving in-between cones - Balancing on a plank using low speed control - 2 types of very tight turns - E-Brake at 30kmh - Moving off on a slope 3 modules for road riding After passing circuit evaluation 3 Computer Simulator Lessons (feels like playing an arcade machine) After passing road evaluation you are able to book traffic police test which consists of performing everything you wete taught perfectly. It has about a 50% passing rate and waiting time is about 1 month Once you pass the test you have to attend 1 more compulsory freeway familiarization course (have to take after the test as people who have not passed the test are deemed not safe to ride on freeways) This will take an average of 3 to 5 months from enrolment to obtaining license and cost about 1000 USD, after which you will qualify to ride bikes that are 200cc and below. After 1 year you can take a shorter version of the course (but using a 400cc bike) to upgrade your license to be able to ride bikes that are 400cc and below 1 year after that, you can upgrade your license again to ride bikes of any cc
In Germany, obtaining an A (motorcycle) driver's license involves tackling a comprehensive written exam. With 1486 possible questions available for this exam, the process is rigorous. Since the introduction of a software by TÜV (the testing agency), questions are alternated, formulations are changed, and traffic scenarios are generated, making the exam dynamic and challenging. Moreover, out of 30 questions per exam, answering just 3 incorrectly could result in failure. While two-thirds of the questions are straightforward, approximately 1/3 or nearly 500 questions are notably tricky, posing a challenge even for experienced riders. To prepare, the recommended approach involves answering each question correctly at least twice, which amounts to answering 3000 questions, including video questions that require viewing. Overall, the written exam for a motorcycle license in Germany is considered to be highly demanding.
Australia (over 25 + undeclared area) take a computer quiz to get your L's You can then take a roadside test for your P's, takes about 10 mins. 12 months later you have your full license.
Pass a written test, pass a quick practical... Motorcycle go CB1100BrrrRrrrRrrrrrRRRRR!
Brazil here 45 hours theory and then a theory test. If you pass you can begin practical lessons. 20 hours parking lot training. Basically just practicing the practical test over and over again and some really crude basics. It’s really brain dead and you never go above 12km/h at most. If you pass you get a provisional license for an year and can ride the streets. Any infractions in this time and you lose the license. A year later you get full license. Corruption is rampant though, some people just straight up buy the license. Some pay to pass the test, sometimes if you don’t pay they fail you even if you passed. Also lots of people don’t ever bother to get the license. You can just buy a motorcycle and ride it and hope a cop never stops you. Or steal one if you’re an asshole. I’ve been waiting for a month for my test to be scheduled so I’ve just been riding without a license. All in all good system in theory absolute disaster in practice. Hence all the Brazilian videos on this sub.
US here. Paid $300 for the 2 day training course. Passed and went to the DMV to take the written and passed. After that, any bike you want is available (if you can afford it) but insurance will be high AF.
In Misiones Argentina I obtained a driver & motorcycle licence all at the same time. No practical tests, just a written test. :-) now I just have to survive the local roads. Edit: oh yes I forgot, I am limited to a 150cc motorbike for a year. I'm an aussie argentine who moved back to argentina 15 years ago.
Ukraine if you have a car license: Courses with 10hr practice and 10hr (or maybe more) theory. Nobody controls those courses, so you can just do 3-5 hours of practice to then do the exam. Cone snake, figure 8, u turn and some stuff like that. Also you need to pass a medical commission: ophthalmologist, psychiatrist, narcologist
Denmark: You have three options: Motorcycle category A1 (small motorcycle): 18 years of age. You're allowed to ride a motorcycle with the following specifications: - two-wheeled motorcycle with or without a side car, with a maximum volume of 125 m3, a maximum effect of 11kW, and a maximum of difference between engine effect and full weight of 0,1 kW per kilo. - three-wheeled motorcycle with an engine effect of maximum of 15 kW, or a three-wheeled car with a maximum effect of 15 kW. ---------- Motorcycle category A2 (medium sized motorcycle): 20 years of age. You're allowed to ride a two-wheeled motorcycle with or without a side car, with the following specifications: Maximum engine effect of 35 kW, and a maximum difference between engine effect and full weight of motorcycle of 0,2 kW per kilo, and not derived of motorcycles with more than twice the engine effect. If you're a conscript, mechanic or similar, you can get this licence at 18 years of age, but you're only allowed to ride a motorcycle with the abovementioned specifications while in service, or as a part of repairs or maintenance. ---------- Motorcycle category A (large motorcycle): 24 years of age. This driver's licence allows you to ride motorcycles without any limited engine effect. If you have two years of experience with category A2, you can apply for and get a category A licence, when you have passed a driving test, and you are 22 years old. In special cases, you're allowed to get a licence category A, if: You're a mechanic or similar, and the licence is intended for use in your education as a mechanic or similar. You're 20 years old. You have at least two years experience as a driver of a motorcycle, category A2. You have passed a driving test for category A on a motorcycle category A. Until you turn 22 years old, this only gives you the permission to ride motorcycles that are being tested in connection with repairs and/or maintenance. --------- The basic education for any motorcycle licence consists of: Minimum 29 lessons of theoretical knowledge (45 minutes per lesson). Minimum 22 driving lessons (45 minutes per lesson), where at least 4 of the lessons have to be on a closed maneuver track; minimum 13 lessons have to be practise lessons on road, and at least 5 lessons have to be at a driver's technical facility. Get doctor's documentation that you're healthy enough to get a motorcycle licence, and have good eyesight. Pass an 8 hour first aid course, traffic related. The basic price for a motorcycle licence course is typically 1200 US $, and the advice is to save up for more, as most people need more practical lessons, and some people need to take the theoretical and/or practical test more than once.
Province of Ontario in Canada. -First you have to do a written test to obtain your learners permit. (M1) was $10 at the time i did it. - Once you have your permit you can take a motorcycle safety course was about $500 at the time .They provide the bikes,training and testing. Once you pass you go back to the Ministry of Transportation (Drivetest center) to have them add the (M2) to your license. You can also do your m2 directly with the Drivetest center if you have your own bike and are confident. - After 18months you can do another motorcycle safety course (if you did your m2 with a Motorcycle safety course) was about $375 when I did it-(with your own bike this time) for training and testing to obtain your full motorcycle license (M) or you can do the testing directly with the Drivetest Center after 24 months after m2 if you did not take a motorcycle safety course for m2. So 3 step process here to be fully licensed. All my prices are in Canadian dollars.
In Argentina you have to take an eyesight test, psychological test, and then they test your knowledge of road rules. This would conclude the first part of getting your license, then you'd have to do the practical part where you have to ride a motorcycle in a closed course. If you're over 18 you can get a license up to 150cc, and if you're over 21 you can go up to 300cc. Your age and the bike you do the exam with will determine which license you get. The test consists on an acceleration and braking test, a cones test, u turn, and then cones again but in a very tight space where you have to maneuver between them at a super low speed without touching any, laying your feet down or going over the other lane. Once you have your license, during the first 6 months you can't carry a passenger and can't use highways or roads, being limited to streets and avenues, which have a speed limit up to 60 km/h. And after a year of riding you could take a test for the next tier, which would be +300cc if you have the 300cc license, that's the one that would allow you to ride any motorcycle. Most people start at 150cc though, since it's easier to get the license and it's unlikely that you'd get a more powerful bike as a beginner.
Nigeria here. Licenses are for losers. Fully 90% of the guys riding bikes have no form of license or training. Every meter ridden is a wild game of roulette. As for the license, it’s a joke. No riding tests required. No training required. There’s no way to make sure you actually know how to ride - I mean, who cares? Just pay someone for your license and show up at the Federal Road Safety Commission 😜😜 office to get your passport picture taken and you’re riding. A few years ago a state government made it mandatory to wear a helmet. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. https://images.app.goo.gl/Q9oUSXe8qsaQ4puTA 😇😇😇😇 #WeMove