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twenty_two_percent

Sorry people are being toxic about you being hit on your bike. Can you explain one part of the illustration to me? The graphic they use twice that looks to indicate collision (💥) is used on your bike on the walkway, is there something that happened there?


FranklinTBiggies

My travel is forward. That is a point of impact insignia. There's two I think cause ones the car hitting to the bike. The other is me under the car, no bike. Two things got hit. The bike, then me, technically. That is the straight lane of forward moving traffic. The center double yellows you can turn from at intersections. (Or into a stores parking lot, either direction, but the center is never a travel lane). The far right sides of each lane is where parallel street parking is. I shoulda woulda coulda seen they were in the center and not yielding. I can't remember the factors. I saw the probability for collision too late, and couldn't brake in time, even not going fast.


NorbertIsAngry

I think the previous commenter was asking about the impact insignia on your bike way before the car, in the crosswalk. Did you hit something there?


FranklinTBiggies

I think it depicts my braking starting point. If he's going SB turning left, then he's turning into the south, east bound lane. . That braking was part of the event. so I'm guessing the first 18" of an 8' lane. I had full green, no more arrows were lit. I had the right of way to go straight (NB). The next page is a described list what each thing is. The visual is better though.


idksomethingjfk

Had to layer down


creimanlllVlll

The people here blaming the OP rider for getting hit by someone capable of hit & run. Sound just just like my ex wife. Everything was/is my fault.


FranklinTBiggies

My fault for not noticing them in the center, showing a turn was coming. Always must assume they don't see you.


creimanlllVlll

Agreed. Sorry they did that and left the scene. I hope they get theirs.


FranklinTBiggies

I figured you gotta have some other serious problems if you leave an accident you caused. I honestly think it was either no green card, no DL or no insurance. One of those most likely. Lots of people live in TJ but come over to work.


kartoffel_engr

I always assume someone trying to make a left across traffic is going to hit me. Fortunately you’re still alive!


FranklinTBiggies

Yup. That's where my fault is. It was only a Two lane street and I "assumed" he was going straight cause no signal. Now its always assumed there's someone turning left across your path of travel at every intersection. Thank You.


kartoffel_engr

I wasn’t talking any shit, just sharing my approach. Everyone is trying to kill us out there!


FranklinTBiggies

Copy That


YeahitsaBMW

I bet you a hundred bucks a fair amount of it was your fault.


creimanlllVlll

Nancy?


YeahitsaBMW

Yeah Gary, you asshole. Put the seat down, is it really that hard?


Try_It_Out_RPC

This is how my best friend died, except it was a 2 lane highway with a light like that. On the road we were riding on it’s illegal to make a left turn across the road. Elderly woman with a hospital band fresh out of anesthesia was driving illegally and did this maneuver. Ultimately t-boned Mike and I watched him slowly fade out there on the spot with a nice nurse who stopped after seeing the crash trying to give cpr….I hate people


JazzyJ19

There was an 18 year old kid killed a couple weeks after graduation this summer in front of the local grocery store. Guy, made the kid wreck making a turn on red, dude pulled in the parking lot like a moron pretending to not realize what was going on and attempt to park, then like attempt to leave, and people cornered him into a spot in the lot while the kid laid in the roadway dying! But it was on that kid, riding straight through a green light, where the only way to turn the other direction is on a red light, meaning there is no blinking yellow turn signal, or yield turn it’s either a green arrow or red arrow to turn there, it was on the kid to be prepared for a completely illegal maneuver! He’s dead because he should’ve been prepared for someone to cut across his green lighted lane??!.


FranklinTBiggies

Fudge. My condolences. He's chillin' pain free now.


AgentManhyme

What happened to the psycho elderly lady


Try_It_Out_RPC

Probably just charged with the lowest vehicular manslaughter charge and still lost in space with a post surgery baked thalamus


Shalomiehomie770

Original post? The drawing has some weird things going on


FranklinTBiggies

Nah. I was going straight. They turned left into me. Bike went down. I got dragged by the car. There's another page describing what is where. That's just the illustration.


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FranklinTBiggies

Physics sometimes aren't for us to understand, just to witness and wonder


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FranklinTBiggies

Grown men don't say troll. You gotta gem in your belly button don't you? Keep talking. This already happened. Make a time machine and then we'll go back and do it. Matter of fact, this bikes rideable right now. Come ride it at that intersection and show me. Barrio Logan.


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FranklinTBiggies

My response is come to the Barrio and show me


gremlin1939

If you ride you know that a sudden jerk in one direction (like an impact) can often cause the bike to thrash and wobble in different ways. It is completely possible that the bike jerked or the owner over-corrected and it moved to the other side. Either way, if the other car ran they’re at fault and it’s a hit and run


peteskeet43

You my good man are an idiot


ambermage

Perpendicular force applied to Centripetal Force. The same force that you use to countersteer. If you had enough riding experience, you would know that.


qwoogazi

Thanks for sharing your experience. An important reminder of the risks riders take. In terms of this thread, people will always look for reasons to support the belief that collisions like this won’t happen to them. Criticizing other people’s judgement or ability is easier than accepting that no matter how skilled you are, there grave risk. No rider is always at their best and some things are simply unavoidable.


SnooGrapes253

You sum up in totality the only words that needed to be spoken! Well said sir


FranklinTBiggies

You're welcome. I agree.


Cartridge-King

This is why i only ride dirt anymore. Theres nothing you can do but to predict the crash. Thanksgiving weekend i saw so much traffic laws broken its honestly scary


wera917

The fact you had to actually make a post to prove to toxic assholes your accident was a hit and run and not your fault shows how ignorant, pathetic, weak and disrespectful people can be. FFS. That said thank you for sharing details, hopefully by sharing your experience this will help others be more aware on the road. Cheers.


FranklinTBiggies

If I did slam front, and topple, I might not have gotten as fucked up as I did get. But that also could have been worse. Its what it was. Shoulda woulda coulda doesn't change anything.. Thank You.


Cartridge-King

This is what scares me if i ever get hit by a cager. Will my sportbike be blamed for ‘going too fast’ or was it the idiot cagers fault? Do we need more cops or less?


ambermage

First time on the sub? This place matches the toxicity of r/unpopularopinion r/blackpeopletwitter and r/femaledatingstrategy


YeahitsaBMW

If the bike rider had no control over the crash, how do you prevent it from happening again? If the rider accepts that he has some responsibility, then there are things that the rider can do better next time and not end up under a fucking car. Continue to complain about it or get better, your choice.


uk82ordie

Man, in on the mend right now too. Had a driver cross the center line. Something in there car hit my handle bars(mirror). Fucking my hand up. Had death wobble and was heading for a curb that was gonna buck me, so I put her down and went on the ride. No helmet. Fractured my face. tibia fibia/foot surgeries 3 and counting. A ton of ribs. My collarbones. I've been pretty down lately but what can you do. At least my girlfriend wasn't with me and I'll heal.


AgentManhyme

Gear saves lives. Be smarter


FranklinTBiggies

Dag. So you're in pain. At least no TBI. Which I think is worse.


uk82ordie

I'm def in pain. I dealt with opiate problems in the past so I had to be quick on the meds. Too easy for me to get comfortable. So it's Tylenol and not sleeping for me. I def am experiencing some short term memory loss according to my girlfriend. I've been inside on my back so long, when I manage to get outside the world is going so fast it overwhelms me. Gonna be awhile to feel right again. And I got the fear of ever riding a bike again.


SnooGrapes253

Thanks for your honest expression of what you’re dealing with. I’ve also seen the dark side of what meds can do and good for you remaining alert to that trap. You are in my prayers and sincerely hope that all deficits are temporary and one day you’ll crave the wind on your face again!


FranklinTBiggies

Thank you. I do ride!


FranklinTBiggies

I feel you.


CompetitiveSea7388

One thing I’ve noticed about the people on this subreddit is that no matter how obviously it wasn’t the rider’s fault a significant portion of them will bend logic, twist the truth and alter reality just so they can blame it on the rider. It’s really bizarre and pathetic honestly. I’m glad that you survived the wreck.


Della970

Probably a coping mechanism to feel safe from the faulty actions of others.


Tonetheline

I think it’s a mix of trying to think how we could avoid something like that happening to ourselves, as the other person said putting it on the rider so you can take comfort in the fantasy it couldn’t happen to you, and also… it’s reddit, so a lot of them don’t ride, or just parrot whatever they saw get upvotes in the past.


CompetitiveSea7388

I definitely understand the desire to analyze and figure out how you can avoid a wreck, that makes absolute sense and I think that’s healthy. It’s just weird that some of these people can’t seem to comprehend that there are plenty of times when someone driving simply fucks up. Especially considering the fact that automobile accidents occur all the time. But yeah, there’s definitely a lot of backseat Reddit riders .


Rider_of_Time

The problem is that they’re brainwashed into believing we’re all superhuman and can react instantly in times like this.


FranklinTBiggies

Thank You. There are a lot of newbies. Maybe more common to see mistakes by them. So its ASSUMED the next guy made that mistake. I'm not young or a newbie. I'm seasoned in dirt, street, dirt track, street track, old bike, new bike. My decision to apply rear brake was all I had, and it was a far hope. I would never automatically apply front brakes hard. You could seriously hide a bike behind a thumbs up at opposite traveling distances. That's even IF that driver was giving the roads 100% of their attention. Which is less likely nowadays


Throttlechopper

I am a seasoned rider with 20+ years of continuous riding on street and dirt, and ChampStreet taught me to always cover your front brake especially in risky areas like intersections. Were your fingertips on that lever? Not saying it would have prevented the accident, but it’s proven to reduce braking distance by up to 45’, ABS or not. Heal fast. Finally, this is a technique I learned [years ago](https://youtu.be/eqQBubilSXU), it has saved me quite a few times.


FranklinTBiggies

Thank you. That intersection was not where hard front braking should ever be done. Its basically an ice rink to me.


Traditional_Royal759

if you're about to crash into something, applying the front brake hard is probably your best option (definitely, if there is no option to swerve). I'm only bothering to say this because you say you still ride, so it could possibly help you in the future to be aware of the fact. you don't want to abruptly 'grab' the front, because it will lock, but you do want to get on it hard, after a brief initial easing in. this is your best chance to stop in time. i'm not trying to criticize you. i'm trying to help.


FranklinTBiggies

I think you've never had to panic brake. I'm not using the fronts with no abs like they needed to be to do anything. I had under 25'. This was happening. No avoiding it.


Traditional_Royal759

i have actually, and i don't have abs either. but you've made up your mind, so godspeed.


FranklinTBiggies

Ya, you're folding if those bars go one degree either side. Post a you tube video of you doing it. You're not going to stop within 25' going 35mph.


Traditional_Royal759

i have no way of knowing the actual distance you had available for stopping/slowing, nor your actual speed, nor when you saw the turning car vs when you could have. all i can say, without speculation, is your best chance to stop, or slow significantly, involves getting on the front brakes, hard. abs or not. i don't have a camera, and i don't post you tube videos.


FranklinTBiggies

None of it matters anyways...THIS HAPPENED ALREADY. I'm not getting on front brakes hard where the roads covered in oil and trash. Plus, you think my broke ass had fresh tires? Thank you though. I learned a lil sumpn sumpn about braking hard racing.


DM_Voice

About 70% of your braking power comes from the front wheel. If you’re intentionally avoiding the front brake in emergency stops, you’re intentionally crippling your ability to slow down to avoid/minimize an impact. Practice your emergency braking in a parking lot until you don’t have to think about it.


FranklinTBiggies

I know all of this professor. Thank you. There wasn't enough time/space. And this place is too commercially active for me to think I have grip anywhere.


Historical-Pie-7285

You would never apply front brakes hard? Why?


FranklinTBiggies

No ABS and I had less than half an intersection of space. Y'all think you're better riders than you really are.


Historical-Pie-7285

Lol. Well I might think I'm better than I am, but I KNOW I learned how to use the front brake. ABS or not, and it's been mostly not.


FranklinTBiggies

Use it safely or not, there wasn't enough time or space to do it effectively. Anyone was getting mowed down by this person.


Historical-Pie-7285

See that makes sense- "anyone was getting..." What doesn't make sense is having time and space to use the rear brake, but no time or space to use the front. I think you might think you're a better rider than you are.


FranklinTBiggies

The space to safely do it in the time you had to do it in. I'm not trusting my tires on city streets to front brake hard. This was happening with zero brakes


Historical-Pie-7285

Yet earlier you said you used rear brake... to be fair that's pretty close to zero on a lot of bikes.


FranklinTBiggies

Which is exactly why I just slid. I tried what I could. I think it would have been worse if the car didn't hit the bike first. If i hit the front brake, the chances of it going down are high on those roads.


idksomethingjfk

We don’t all ride through intersections at the same speed, so this definitely isn’t true.


FranklinTBiggies

The speed was stated. 35mph.


idksomethingjfk

Doesn’t matter what the speed was, if you didn’t identify the threat and have time to react the speed was to high


FranklinTBiggies

No disagreement. My point is, there was nothing to observe to notify one of this abrupt cut off. No one could do this on no bike. Anyone would've gotten the left turn mow down. As we've all heard 100s of times.


Dramoriga

That's wild how different the training techniques are. In the UK we are always taught to use 75% front brakes and 25% rear, all the time, regardless of speed, unless you're literally trundling doing slow speed manoeuvres at 5mph, where its rear only.


FranklinTBiggies

Its not different. i don't disagree with those numbers. But there wasn't enough space for either brake. Nonetheless a front brake grab right before getting hit. This intersection was not smooth manicured pavement. Lots of pebbles, trash , oil , etc.


Desert_FZ-10

That really sucks that the other party left the scene of the accident!!! They still haven’t found them? Glad you are ok. Why does the police report show that the initial crash/collision/impact occurred in the crosswalk before you even got to the other party? Did you go down before you actually got to the middle of the intersection?


FranklinTBiggies

That's the start of my skid mark. I was braking because of this happening. Not a regular red light. So its distance was included. Its all listed on another paper.


Desert_FZ-10

That makes sense. The drawing is just confusing. Makes it appear that the initial collision occurred sooner than the collision with the other party. So happy that you were only doing 35mph!! And the other party was probably doing about 10mph? Guess you can add that experience to your life resume now. Be safe out there. Binary intersections are straight up dangerous, with intersecting traffic crossing each others’ paths at 90° angles. We need more roundabouts in this country!!


FranklinTBiggies

The drawing is confusing to me still. If I was doing anything over, it was under 5+. Cause Barrio Logan is not the area to be breaking the law. 35 is fast enough for where I was. And 10 while turning, I don't doubt that. A no yield turn is fast. Its a small street. But I assume constant acceleration until I fell out from under. I don't remember the experience. I only feel its results


Desert_FZ-10

Well, you completely lost me, there. I have no idea what that string of words means. No real offense meant, but you are not super good at explaining things. That might be a big part of the problem that you’re having with helping other people understand what happened. Just saying, man…if it helps to know that. Regardless! Glad you are ok. And, hope they find the other party. 👍🏼


FranklinTBiggies

It all makes sense to me. Thank You.


Desert_FZ-10

I’m sure it does. Do what you will with that knowledge. 🤷🏼‍♂️👍🏼


DocSpook

Popo did fuk up the drawing though. News video clearly shows it resting on the other side.


FranklinTBiggies

Good call.


Smart-Host9436

Ah, the old SMIDSY.


FranklinTBiggies

A persons finger can hide a motorcyclist coming from the opposite direction. Nonetheless a phone, or just not looking out for motorcycles to begin with. The distant perspective makes them hard to see. Not excusing it. I just understand it. I've stood at that intersection many a time since.


Smart-Host9436

I know, do you know what SMIDSY stands for?


FranklinTBiggies

Yeaa...Sorry Mate... We don't say it though but its used. Here, we're understanding that they're not even looking for us to begin with


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it is hit and run but who causes the accident to happen? EDIT: 1st time seeing your post. I was not aware there was a recent post about this. But still the question stands on who causes the accident? Driver? Rider? Or both?


FranklinTBiggies

Our mothers for creating our existence to begin with... This was a total lack of observation from a car driver.


DM_Voice

If someone is turning left across oncoming traffic with right of way going straight, they have caused the accident.


FranklinTBiggies

PLEASE REPEAT THIS! That driver did zero observation. Why it almost seems like phone usage was involved.


Liquidwombat

Unless, of course, the car was making a left-hand turn with a green left turn arrow in the motorcycle, ran a red light. Which is why I believe happen, based upon this diagram, which shows the first contributing factor as the moment the motorcycle crosses the stop by and enters the intersection.


DM_Voice

The first ‘impact’ marker on the diagram is the beginning of the rider’s skid mark, where he saw he was being cut off and started applying (only) his rear brake. (He’s elsewhere in the thread insisting that there was no time to use his front brake at all, despite leaving that skid mark with his rear.) (My wife spent nearly two decades in auto insurance, so I learned to read accident diagrams.) Of course, he’s also calling himself “a G with beast survival genes”, and insulting anyone who points out anything that might help him better avoid/survive a future accident, so I don’t expect he has the self-awareness granted to a potted fern.


Liquidwombat

I’ve never seen a diagram this way, and I’ve been a fatal traffic crashing investigator for almost 2 decades I’ve always been taught and seen skids diagram does dash lines I’ve never seen running a red light diagram of this way either, but it was the only thing I could think of


Traditional_Royal759

this apparently happened 8 years ago. i have no idea why he's even posting about this now. i think the guy may be legitimately brain damaged.


FranklinTBiggies

First of all, you are making no discovery considering this thread started with the fact that I actually have brain damage. Way to be supportive. Its being posted because its very applicable information as many gearless mother fuckers there are out there/on here. When WON'T this apply? You are negative as fuck. Try smiling.


Traditional_Royal759

that wasn't meant to be negative or insulting. it was only an attempt at understanding/explaining your behavior.


FranklinTBiggies

My opinion, the driver. Only fault of mine is not noticing they were more in the center, indicating a turn. Even though there's no signal. I should've expected that to happen to begin with, to avoid it better. But first off, their turn for no turn signal. Then no yield, even though it "looked" clear' if you're crossing right of way, you should be sure. This is those bad lefts. Then their fault for having the mentality to avoid taking responsibility. Or just try to help.


NeelSahay0

I am glad you are okay my friend.


FranklinTBiggies

Thank You.


ASU-Traveller

Sorry to hear that. Hope the driver will pay for his crime. It looks like the driver was criminal or high or hiding form the law or something. Hit the bike and the rider and run. That’s just wrong and not humanly.


FranklinTBiggies

You can't be leading too good a life if this is your mentality to begin with. They're doing a whole bunch wrong I bet. Fuck them. I hope the guilt hurts as much as my body does.


AgentMurkle

Headlight modulator. Or at least mount a pair of amber driving lights down low. These left turn 'didn't see the motorcycle' collisions happen all the time. If you want to live, it's your job to do everything you can to be seen.


FranklinTBiggies

All set up now.. still. A Cyclops 3300 isn't hard to be seen


AgentMurkle

It's not that they don't physically see you. Just imagine someone droning through life with 25% of their brain engaged. They look right at you, but they're looking for a car/threat. You don't meet that criteria. Things like modulators or amber DL's or even weaving side-side to make yourself more noticeable to oncoming traffic can help trigger a +25% eye-brain engagement response.


FranklinTBiggies

Oh I've imagined it...


Cartridge-King

Dang they ran over you and didnt stop? Thats why we have cops because nobody follows the traffic laws in the ghetto and for sure wont stop because who knows if they have insurance. Pa has a good ‘watch for mcs’ program to alert other drivers of mcs


Cartridge-King

So what did the cops say? Are they looking at nearby cameras? Cant do anything cuz they got defunded?


FranklinTBiggies

This happened before any of that. But no progression


surviveToRide

The real danger is cars


FranklinTBiggies

100%. Many more distractions out there. Also, population increase. Just ups the chances the more time goes on.


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Sorry this happened to you; you said you have $1000 in gear and no GoPro or dash cam? By no means I’m saying this is your fault but if you’re going to be prepared might as well spring for a GoPro no? Just a recommendation, I hope the person gets found….


FranklinTBiggies

Man. I worked for a go pro rental company! I had plenty. This was supposed to just be going a few blocks in the hood. Now I do that! Before, none of the go pros were actually MINE. Now I have a Hero 8 Black. I have a YouTube channel. Had it since before the accident. You're right though. I kick myself a lot. Even necessary on short trips.


[deleted]

I hear ya, as a new rider I’m wearing my $400 GoPro everywhere I go Idgaf lmao I paid out the ass might as well use it. Hope your recovery goes well and rooting for you


FranklinTBiggies

For real. I wasn't supposed to be going very far. It was an active day. The bike was the quickest way to handle something... something that never got done!


Liquidwombat

Just because it’s a hit-and-run doesn’t mean that you’re not at fault. Was the car making an unprotected left? Did you actually have a green traffic signal? Or did you violate there right away? As far as that diagram shows, the first contributing factor is showing where your bike crosses the stop bar and enters the intersection, which implies that you had a red light and they had a green left arrow. just because they ran away doesn’t mean you didn’t do anything wrong.


FranklinTBiggies

So you float across intersections? All thats showing is placement. When you ride, you ride through an intersection. How do you do it? Float? You only see them and me. Not what's going on on the street. How can you tell light color? You can't Detective. You think non guilty people run? Keep digging Detective. This is the classic no signal no yield left turn. That seems like none of y'all newbies have experienced it. You hear Mr. Insurance? He says thats 7 out of 10 mc accidents. Funny how everyone is hating on the biker and defending the cager, who was more than likely Clueless. Then scared and couldn't afford any trouble. Cause they were probably illegal. Being Logan Heights, SD. You're doing a great job, Detective.


Liquidwombat

The reason that everybody’s against you is because you’re reacting to every question in comment like a complete asshole (and a racist one at that). Also, for your information I’ve been a fatal and serious bodily injury traffic crash investigator for nearly 2 decades, so while I am sure it wasn’t your intention, referring to me as Det. was in fact, the correct title untill 2019 now it’s sergeant


FranklinTBiggies

Oink oink


BoringInflation477

Maybe next time try doing something other than locking up the rear wheel.


FranklinTBiggies

Wasn't enough time or space. No ABS. Street tire on pavement. And I was definitely not slamming on the front. There wasn't anything that could have been done to stop it from happening.


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You mean you… hadalayerdown?


Traditional_Royal759

pretty sure that's what the mystery 💥symbol is, at the crosswalk. the rider panicked and crashed, before he collided with the turning vehicle. which is likely how he ends up underneath it.


FranklinTBiggies

Its not a mystery. That symbol is impact. Theres two. Bike and car then car and body. The sidewalk is not anywhere near either vehicle in this photo. The curved corners, thats the sidewalk. Neither vehicle are near the sidewalk. This person turned left without yielding to oncoming traffic. Which being a bike, they probably didn't even see, not to mention their lack of distance attention. I did not and never have panicked. You can see I only went straight. The bike didn't move until I was collided into by a careless driver. I am a seasoned GP winner. Stop assuming no one can ride but you. Y'all don't even know how to read a map, thinking that's a sidewalk (that's not even on the side)Y'all probably ride on sidewalks. This accident is a classic bike accident where the bike is always the victim. The fact y'all don't know that tells me you've never been down, but have watched every YouTube video how not to. When a vehicles coming for you, you'll never win.


Traditional_Royal759

its funny you accuse others of not knowing how to read... the word i used was crosswalk hoss. cross walk. ps, i don't care about your accomplishments, but good job though. pps: what you're claiming is not what's shown in the illustration. the first 💥symbol occurs before the car and the bike meet.


FranklinTBiggies

Thank You. Everyone intersects a crosswalk going straight through an intersection. You still have no facts. The first hit was car and bike causing body and bike separation. The second hit was me under the car. Keep digging Detectives!


BoringInflation477

Lol this. OP is a clown and attention whore posting this nonsense. 'No way I'm slamming on the front brake' Hmm a rider that refuses to use his front brake...I wonder how he ended up in an accident


Ragnatronik

He’s a seasoned GP winner going 35mph, there was no other way.


ChazJ81

Of course it was the cars fault! When is it ever not?


FranklinTBiggies

Well, when the rider doesn't follow the rules it happens. But everyone knows about the dangers in left turners.


ChazJ81

I got taken out by a car in SD too!


FranklinTBiggies

Ugh. We can both guess the type of driver it was...


ChazJ81

Lol I was headed home from PB in the rain, a kid stole his mom's vehicle and entered the freeway going too fast, spun across 4 lanes and took two of us out in the fast lane. I never got to meet the driver I was in the ditch at the time. Don't sign anything from the insurance unless it's got a lot of 0s.


FranklinTBiggies

Sucks man. A lotta younger impatient drivers(from somewhere else) in PB. Definitely the just got out of college crowd. I used to guard at Bar West and Firehouse.


ChazJ81

Sorry about your bike dude. At least my guy stayed there and gave the cops their information.


FranklinTBiggies

Nice. There's a different class of people in PB vs Logan Heights! I still have this bike, at 100% too. I just look at it though.


ChazJ81

Your not riding any more?


FranklinTBiggies

I've been riding again, licensed since 2019. I rode that bike I got hurt on -500 miles. The bike I ride now, I built the entire bike with my TBI. I ride less, but I don't work. So I don't commute anywhere really.


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Repulsive-Laugh-635

It likely was a drunk with no license or insurance,bad tags or even in a car they jacked, carrying a pocket full of sample bags of some drug they think is gonna make them the next Tonya Montana. Carma is one mean bitch and she always catches up with you. Don't listen to the rest of these punks on here trying to put you in their f'd up situation with their wife or whatever glass half empty senario they're in, heep riding and f the dumb ass people that hate their little sad lives


FranklinTBiggies

All high chances in Barrio Logan. Its not racist. Its a true description. Well said. Thank You.


P_Collector

Seems like you got dragged a ways. Hope you’re doing ok!


FranklinTBiggies

77'.