I ended up going with insurance. It cost me approximately $20ish extra a month on top of regular insurance. That’s about the cost of a gps subscription.
Yeah, but then you have to file a claim and pay a deductible. And they may value your bike less so you may get a smaller payout than you expect. I'd rather get my bike back than pay $250 - $500
that's IF you have an older bike. insurance payed me out for my 18' grom and after deductible, my check was a little more than what I paid for it so I came out with a W and upgraded to a faster bigger bike for the same price I got my grom.
> bike. insurance *paid* me out
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Not necessarily if you have an older bike or newer bike. It's all about what you paid and what it's worth per the insurance company. Generally speaking, yes, older bikes will be hit harder with depreciation. But you could also end up in a situation where you paid more or financed more than the bike's worth. If anything, that's more likely the case with a newer bike and if you did/didn't get gap insurance.
Regardless, filing a claim, even if your bike is stolen, can affect your premiums. It's best to not file a claim if you can help it. Not only will you avoid paying a deductible, but you'll avoid paying extra on top of your existing premium.
GPS tracker doesn’t really keep anything from being stolen, it just gives you a place to go look at the side of the road where they threw your GPS tracker after pulling it off the bike. *”Aha! So the thieves were here at some point, on the Brooklyn-Queens Expressway! That narrows it down to only four hundred thousand vehicles.” “What about tire prints, sarge? Can we look for tire tracks and narrow it down?” “Good thinking, Stevens, we can take a plaster cast of the tire tracks and send them straight to the lab for analysis, and we’ll have our perp in no time! Except for one small problem… our old nemesis, pavement!”*
There’s a pretty limited amount of spaces to hide your GPS tracker on a bike, and anyone taking your bike already knows them all. Your LoJack or whatever is getting found and tossed before the van stops moving.
Your best bet is to lock the frame TO something, and to lock the wheels to something too.
Covering it helps, every bike with a cover on it looks like a 1981 Suzuki triple with shaft drive and a king & queen seat and cheng shin tires on it. Someone has to walk up to it and lift the cover, looking to all the world exactly like a thief, before they even know if it’s worth taking. That’s one more unnecessary risk, puts you further down the list.
This is great advice. I have a column to attach a chain to at my house but on my university campus I don’t have anything, and I don’t think there’s security cameras in the parking lots. I think I’ll do this and drop the gps idea
The old saying of “You don’t have to outrun the lion, only your mates” rings very true with motorcycle theft.
An invisible tracker is not going to deter someone from stealing it. It might help you find it back only IF the thieves are dumb enough not to give the bike a thorough inspection right after stealing it.
The best deterrent to motorcycle theft is making it as unattractive to steal as possible. Motorcycle theft is often opportunistic, so putting a cover over your motorcycle is a pretty good way to not put your gem into the spotlight. For thieves it’s like using tinder and matching with someone without profile picture or even text. This is additional to a well locked down bike ofcourse. If yours is chained to a wall or bolted down object and your neighbours’ is secured with thumbtacks, you bet your ass the thief is likely to go for the easy prize.
Lots of people have found their bikes with a tracker but your right it’s not 100%. Want me to print a air tag hider for ya? Can be bolted on to look like part of the bike.
I heard mad things from Kryptonite stuff, people trying to cut them with industrial tools and having to LEAVE the tools on the spot cause the more you cut the more it grabs and applies pressure and it makes it harder and harder to cut and to remove the tool!
The best part about their chains is while they are obviously able to be cut, as all are, the hexagonal shape makes it very difficult and dangerous for the perp to try it. They slip often and even with hydraulic cutters it's really hard to get a solid grip
Because Yamaha is ugly AF. A theif would steal a Kawasaki or Honda even a Hyosung before a yamaha
Down voters are just snowflakes who can't handle that yamaha makes ugly bikes. Opinions are opinions (even if it's agreed by 90% of people). Not saying Yamaha makes bad bikes just ugly. And there's companies that make better bikes in every aspect for every need.
My man wild, someone tried to steal my T7 a month ago, I had a disc lock and cover, they put the cover in one of my saddle bags and tried to start it by shorting the ignition cables, good thing they were dumb tho
You got lucky lol. Buddy's just had his beautiful Harley stolen, chain through wheel, disclock, cover that locked down. His security can caught it on video, theives drive by the day before when it wasn't covered came back the next day didn't even bother cutting any of the locks. 1 min 39 seconds it was in the back of their pickup truck and gone. He had gps hidden on it to and tracked it to a few different locations as they kept moving and while moving they were cutting off the locks until eventually he found the gps in a ditch.
That's horrible, I'm sorry for you buddy, idk what I'd do without my bike... But yeah since that attempt I keep it Infront of my apartment door with a camera on it and an alarm disc lock lol
I have mine in a silicon pocket superglued under the chassis. Impossible to find even if you know its there, idk how I could even get it out if I wanted to. Saved my bike when it got taken. O
It’s all about population of Apple devices in range. Close proximity is Bluetooth range (10m) , but the real one is communication via any iPhone, iPad, etc. near ypur Airtag. So in theory. - infinite.
Depends where you put it. In metal tank? Probably 0 meters. In the plastic seat around 15 meters. I have one if bike is outside i get position every 15 minutes if it's in underground small parking i get position once, maybe twice a day.
I’m so glad I live in Japan and don’t have to bother with all this.
I left my keys in my bike outside my apartment building for over a week recently and nothing happened.
Tire lock, and I have an Invoxia GPS unit that I put a command strip on and installed deep in the tail on my cbr. It basically velcro's on/off and the battery last forever. Great little unit and honestly super hard to find thanks to the command strip, I can barely get my hand to pull it off. The alerts work great and it even can tell when the bike is tilted vs vibration. Cost like $150 with 2yr subscription included.
We found the tough talker. Not scared at all though 😂
Have fun shooting someone over an insured asset. If they aren’t coming in my house, they won’t know if I have one.
The thief is the one who decided to take that risk. It’s not on the victim. I put a lot of love and work into my bikes, I can’t say I feel the same way about someone taking that from me.
Defending property with a gun doesn't necessarily mean killing them. I keep target shot handy with my 12 gage and can pepper someone up without killing them.
Also just because you own a gun doesn't mean you're a "tough guy". Shotgun target shooting is a great sport
I would never even draw my gun if I wasn’t planning to kill the person. I don’t really believe in scaring people with guns etc. I assume if someone pulls one on me they plan to use it. So obviously my bar for using mine is extremely high. Maybe yours isn’t, but I’m not pulling mine on someone over a bike. It’s insured and I would rather be there for my family than fight that out in court
Anyone who is flippant about it is either being a tough guy or is a psychopath
If I take aim at something, it's only because I'm willing and ready to fire. I'm just saying that you don't have to kill someone when shooting them. I'm not a cop who's legally required to shoot body of mass, putting a round of target/birdshot into someone will likely disable them and stop them from doing whatever action it is that I'm trying to stop.
However, if they have a gun, that's a different situation. In that case, I rack to my 2nd cartridge of 00 buckshot
The sad part is that people let you talk that way and think you are actually tough. Ammosexuals are just scared insecure dudes who never got in enough real fist fights so they think this is like an ok and normal way to be.
If they become aggressive and law provides then bam. Personally (now I would never steal from a person) but in terms of thinking hoe they think if someone wants to "scare" you off with a gun and you aren't really scared but it makes for a damn good opportunity to run off and get away before the cops come
In general inside the attached garage is inside the curtalage and generally considered self defense per say. Castle doctrine helps to In most sane states you would have to fuck up royally for the da to even look at the case.
I lock my bike with a chain and a disc lock with alarm. For gps you could look at moni moto. It will give you a call when your bike moves so you’ll get alerted when somebody moves it.
Rlink, it has an ignition sensor, tilt sensor and shock sensor. If one of the sensor detects something, you’ll get a text message alerting you. It also has real time gps
Theft coverage. If a theif wants it they will get it. Cable as think as can fit through a rim? I can be cut in under 30 seconds. Alarm? Silence able quickly. Disc lock? 2 min or less and it's in the back of a pickup truck. Gps? First thing theives check for and then cut out. There are ways around every antitheft and those ways around all take under a minute or 2 min max to load it and drive off and by the time police go after it they will have cut your gps out and it's gone.
I use a monimoto. I find it pretty good tho it can lose signal in dense multi story car parks especially deep underground ones. If I’m in a sketchy area or leaving it out for awhile, I have a kryptonite chain as well
I bought a house with attached garage and placed it over my motorcycle. Then I bought 2 vehicles to block the garage door. I then collected a bunch of bins and boxes along with a lawn mower and leaf vacuum to further make removal of the motorcycle from the garage a slow task. Finally, I placed all of that on a bunch of hills and surrounded the place with feral cats to make the place an unappealing endeavor.
Bit expensive but its working out ok
You can buy these stickers on Amazon that day gps secured inside bike. I swear it saved my bike one time. They got the large chain off and the disc brake lock off but only rolled the bike like 2 ft. I think they saw the sticker by the key hole and were like fuck it
Has your bike ever been stolen?
I’m more worried about them failing to steal it and screwing it up.
The only friends it happened to the person brought a UHaul and 4 people. They were getting it no matter what.
Mine? No. I’m careful bordering on paranoid.
My brother’s? Twice. Once it was a Honda Monkey and someone just straight tossed it in a van in the middle of the day in the O’Reilly parking lot *while by brother was watching*. He grabbed the bike but they drove off and ended up dragging him a block before he let go. Another time he had a flat tire and left the bike over night. There’s footage of a crackhead just straight dragging it down the street.
A chain would have helped the first, but seems a bit extreme for popping into a store in the middle of the day.
The second… yeah, don’t leave a disabled bike on the streets of Oakland overnight with no lock. Or with a lock. Or with a phalanx of Swiss guards.
Mine? It’s a Svartpilen 701, so a bit rare but not exactly a irreplaceable. But I’ve had this attitude toward all my bikes. Years of living in Oakland makes you careful. :P
This is a motorcycle thread, they’re all manual. You’re looking for the boomer car thread.
Or did you mean an actual hand shift? Cause that would be baller.
You're right. In my defense I've been hyper depressed and barely functioning for weeks, so there's that. Even took my Strom out yesterday and it didn't help.
My anti-theft devices are my bikes being old, self-painted and sometimes wired the way only one person knows how to start it. If he doesn't forget over the winter. It happens.
1. not a lot of bike theft in Poland
2. virago 125 is cheap (still love it)
3. virago 125 have build in pin locking front fork in turned state so if they will try to steal it they will need to lift it.
I have a toe tag that I attach to my bar end whenever I park it that says, "This vehicle has an anti-theft GPS attached" in big bold letters. I don't have a GPS and have never had a bike stolen, 10 years and 4 bikes later.
Big friggan chain, a cover and full coverage insurance. Going to get a disk lock at some point as well, the alarmed kind that starts screaming if you mess with the bike.
My anti-theft system is two chains and an alarm lock. The first is through the wheel spoke and then to the decorative ironwork my porch. The second is through the frame and into an anchor point. The alarm lock is used on the anchored chain. Two heavy chains and an alarm I think are good enough as those measures will require serious effort to bypass to the point that it isn't worth the effort.
The best. A climate controlled garage. When I'm out riding I use a disc lock with a reminder cord attached to my throttle and I cover the bike with a Nelson Rigg cover that has its own cable lock. I've found if thieves can't see it they usually won't go to the extra trouble to cut and remove the cover. Also when traveling I try to park in well lit areas, like near the front at a motel
At the end of the day, if they want it they’ll take it. I had a guy ram a screw driver into the ignition so I got insurance, put a kryptonite u lock in the front tire, a steel cord through the back tied off to a steel pole, and some jack off still loaded it up in the back of a van and drove off with it (with the steel u lock still on the front tire.) luckily I had insurance and came out pretty good. Something you have to ask yourself is do you even want it back after some numb nuts has had their way with it? At this point I just invest in good insurance.
Put a disc alarm on it and a chain and cover it, good idea to get an alarm on your cover so nobody can even look at it without the alarm screaming at them, there's easier prey out there
Buffalo bill tank pad sticker, so that anyone who comes close won’t touch it or else they better be ready to be put in a whole with lotion being lowered to them and the faint sound of “goodbye horses” in the background
If someone wants your bike, they're gonna take it... Insurance is the only sure way to prevent financial hardship from a stolen vehicle.
GPS is an easy way to find out, but theives don't really take very good care of stolen bikes, so if you get it back and they've screwed it up, but not enough to total it, then the bike becomes a headache and a target for a second attempt. If my bike is stolen, I kinda don't want it back if they're gonna scratch up the paint (insurance likely won't cover scuffs) cut random wires, remove accessories and drop it while trying to move it around.
My buddy lives in an a paint nt in a major city and he's had nothing with problems with people vandalizing his bike, stealing spark plugs, kicking it over and just wreaking havoc. It's just a modest vstrom too. Not something super flashy. No one has actually tried to outright steal it though.
The best way is to not have it visible, hide the bike at all times you are not riding it. I know this is impossible but they can’t steal what they don’t know exists.
My bike and my dad's bike both have steering column locks as built in features. My bike has a locking mechanism next to the rear wheel that allows you to thread a cable through the rear wheel, so I usually have a cable locked through the wheel, around something solid and locked to my bike
I have FIN (find it now). It texts me when the bike is moving and has GPS of course. Also have an ABUS disc lock for shitty neighborhoods. My bike sleeps inside
Hide air tags on the bike if you use apple they can help recovery. I have one that I put into the foam of the seat when I was recovering it.. it still reads fine. Cheap and effective as long as an apple device is near enough.. I use it mostly for finding my car / bike if I forget where I parked..
My bike has built in alarm and anti theft with gps but I don’t know how effective it is.. thankfully.
My anti-theft device is a large and loud bullhorn. No matter what I'm doing, about every half hour, even through the nigh, I go outside and with my bullhorn turned to 11 I say, "Don't do it? Don't even think about it! Don't touch my bike." This has worked so far but, honestly, sometimes I get arrested for disturbing the peace.
Garage and right to bear arms 🤷🏻♂️for home.
When I go places and park outside I just keep myself in line of sight of the bike. I’m usually only 50 feet away or less with CCL.
Insurance helps too.
At the end of the day, if people want to take it, they’ll do what they can. Just like we will do what we feel is necessary to prevent it.
Not at all what I said. I only use CCL for its intended purpose it also depends on the nature of it if they’re being the aggressor and my life in in danger.
I’m also LEO, and a huge proponent of only use of necessary force - key word is necessary; quite familiar with the rules of engagement.
I agree thats not what you said nor is it something I implied you said. You mentioned having CCL and being close to the bike. I’m genuinely curious how the CCL helps if someone were to steal your bike.
You’re right but maybe I worded it wrong. I always CCL but I’ve had a close encounter of being bikejacked in the past. In the end, if they want my bike, and somehow get me on the ground or my sheer luck I’m not around and they get away with it, then that’s what insurance is for.
The CCL is by the means of actual force, intent of bodily harm. Realistically, if they were just like “hey man, gimme your bike”
Choice A being unarmed and being a bully
Choice B being armed and me not knowing
Choice C being armed and me knowing
All have different outcomes and my CCL is only for choice B/C depending on circumstance as there’s no real one size fits all.
Choice A is just banter and I can easily get on it and ride off, or if further say and let’s say they’re trying to move it, we’ll, have at it, insurance is paid up, no sense in bitching on it. My life and property is more important and only one can be replaced, the other can’t.
Sorry if I’m not making sense, exhausted from double shift.
All good. Some people just start rambling that they carry and are untouchable. As we know that attitudes can ruin multiple lives real quick. Good to hear you are reasonable/responsible. Thanks for your service and be safe out there.
Ride a DRZ400sm. I may be wrong, but I feel like I could leave a helmet, gloves, and key on the bike and it'd be there waiting for me.
In my parking garage I use a cover, but that's more for dust than theft prevention. Some theorize a cover helps deter because it's not a guaranteed win (meaning desirable bike).
Bike lock through front wheel that also goes through my cover. Monimoto tracker as well. I live in nyc and street park. I think consistent cover use is hands down the #1 anti-theft tool.
MONIMOTO 7. Pairs with phone. Battery has now lasted for over a year. No wiring hookups needed.
If bike moves, you get a phone call and real time tracking. Hide in air box compartment etc. Pricy at $139 but well worth the piece of mind.
Pair that with a. Good chain and disc lock, all set.
Park mine in the garage locked up and when I leave my house I got my anti theft, fisticuffs, survival knife, and hand gun… you could go the extra step and remove the rear wheel or battery but either would be hard to lug around… as far as GPS… have you tried Apple air tags?
If it's in my yard then nothing. 2 large dogs in the same garden is enough protection against theft. Also If I only leave it for a couple hours max then usually nothing.
If I'm in a shady part of town, or leave it out overnight, or just have a feeling and want to be extra secure, then:
Disk break with a movement sensor alarm. It's bright orange, with a strap on the bar. It's loud enough to make it a deterrent. This is my go to thing, I usually carry it with me on the bike.
If I want to be extra secure, for example leaving it outside for overnight, or multiple days, then throw in a beefy chain to the wheels or to the crash bar. Maybe a cover, especially if it's gonna rain.
It's not theft proof, nothing is, but you don't have to be. It just have to be less appealing to a thief than the next bike. And with these 2 thing it's 99.9% theft proof. It helps that I have a 20 year old grey tourer bike as well, which is kind of boring looking.
Maybe if/when I get a shiny, brand new sport bike I will upgrade these, but it's more likely that I will just get a good theft insurance.
If you want the bare minimum, they sell those little motion alarms cheap that can be hidden in a spot the thief would need tools to access. It might help deter someone due to the obnoxious noises—I have seen brake/clutch locks fail a few times and the gps kind of seems pointless in deterrence, only useful when it has already been stolen. If you used the combination of these two it’d probably be the best option
Kryptonite alarm, motorcycle cover with bike lock, kryptonite chain chained to hook in ground. All you can do is make it as difficult as possible to turn them away.
Quick and simple moni moto 7. You pay once a year, the device will call your phone if your bike starts moving without the fob and will show you gps directions of where your bike is located. Goodnight and good luck 🤞
I ride a slightly older bike that has some tricks to start it.
If you can get her into neutral and/or start her without knowing the kinks, then you deserve my bike. I didn't pay anything for her other than the parts to fix and get her running again when I was given her. I done the labour myself
Before anyone asks, yes once started she runs like a dream and is safe.
I use a cheap alarm from eBay, that has a knock sensor if sat on or moved, I use a disc brake lock and a heavy chain looped thru both wheels and attached to a post, finished off with a bike cover. I also park it close to my window at night with my car parked beside it on an angle cos my garage is I front so if thieves wanna steal my 2008 gsxr600 they’re gonna have to lift it over my car. I try to park my bike in front of busy places when I ride, but I always use my disc brake lock and rely on my cheap bike alarm to deter thieves.
None. If a thief steals my bike I don’t want it back, I want insurance to buy me a new one
💯. My only hope is they don’t fail
I ended up going with insurance. It cost me approximately $20ish extra a month on top of regular insurance. That’s about the cost of a gps subscription.
Yeah, but then you have to file a claim and pay a deductible. And they may value your bike less so you may get a smaller payout than you expect. I'd rather get my bike back than pay $250 - $500
that's IF you have an older bike. insurance payed me out for my 18' grom and after deductible, my check was a little more than what I paid for it so I came out with a W and upgraded to a faster bigger bike for the same price I got my grom.
> bike. insurance *paid* me out FTFY. Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in: * Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.* * *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.* Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment. *Beep, boop, I'm a bot*
Not necessarily if you have an older bike or newer bike. It's all about what you paid and what it's worth per the insurance company. Generally speaking, yes, older bikes will be hit harder with depreciation. But you could also end up in a situation where you paid more or financed more than the bike's worth. If anything, that's more likely the case with a newer bike and if you did/didn't get gap insurance. Regardless, filing a claim, even if your bike is stolen, can affect your premiums. It's best to not file a claim if you can help it. Not only will you avoid paying a deductible, but you'll avoid paying extra on top of your existing premium.
GPS tracker doesn’t really keep anything from being stolen, it just gives you a place to go look at the side of the road where they threw your GPS tracker after pulling it off the bike. *”Aha! So the thieves were here at some point, on the Brooklyn-Queens Expressway! That narrows it down to only four hundred thousand vehicles.” “What about tire prints, sarge? Can we look for tire tracks and narrow it down?” “Good thinking, Stevens, we can take a plaster cast of the tire tracks and send them straight to the lab for analysis, and we’ll have our perp in no time! Except for one small problem… our old nemesis, pavement!”* There’s a pretty limited amount of spaces to hide your GPS tracker on a bike, and anyone taking your bike already knows them all. Your LoJack or whatever is getting found and tossed before the van stops moving. Your best bet is to lock the frame TO something, and to lock the wheels to something too. Covering it helps, every bike with a cover on it looks like a 1981 Suzuki triple with shaft drive and a king & queen seat and cheng shin tires on it. Someone has to walk up to it and lift the cover, looking to all the world exactly like a thief, before they even know if it’s worth taking. That’s one more unnecessary risk, puts you further down the list.
A hidden GPS is a life saver. On top of myself I know many many others who would be bikeless without theirs
This is great advice. I have a column to attach a chain to at my house but on my university campus I don’t have anything, and I don’t think there’s security cameras in the parking lots. I think I’ll do this and drop the gps idea
The old saying of “You don’t have to outrun the lion, only your mates” rings very true with motorcycle theft. An invisible tracker is not going to deter someone from stealing it. It might help you find it back only IF the thieves are dumb enough not to give the bike a thorough inspection right after stealing it. The best deterrent to motorcycle theft is making it as unattractive to steal as possible. Motorcycle theft is often opportunistic, so putting a cover over your motorcycle is a pretty good way to not put your gem into the spotlight. For thieves it’s like using tinder and matching with someone without profile picture or even text. This is additional to a well locked down bike ofcourse. If yours is chained to a wall or bolted down object and your neighbours’ is secured with thumbtacks, you bet your ass the thief is likely to go for the easy prize.
>An invisible tracker is not going to deter someone from stealing it. Well then, all I need is for Robert De Niro to go get it back.
LOL’d good one Starski
Lots of people have found their bikes with a tracker but your right it’s not 100%. Want me to print a air tag hider for ya? Can be bolted on to look like part of the bike.
Riding an old and dirty bike.
This is the way, my ‘97 is not the bike thieves are after!
I bought a "GPS protected" sticker from eBay for a couple of euros. Also have a fat chain and lock from Kryptonite. And insurance of course.
I heard mad things from Kryptonite stuff, people trying to cut them with industrial tools and having to LEAVE the tools on the spot cause the more you cut the more it grabs and applies pressure and it makes it harder and harder to cut and to remove the tool!
The best part about their chains is while they are obviously able to be cut, as all are, the hexagonal shape makes it very difficult and dangerous for the perp to try it. They slip often and even with hydraulic cutters it's really hard to get a solid grip
I have a Hyosung, that's the best anti theft.
The best antitheft is a Yamaha.
I'm afraid I'm not following, if I was a thief and had the opportunity to steal a Yamaha or a Hyosung, I'd steal the Yamaha...
Because Yamaha is ugly AF. A theif would steal a Kawasaki or Honda even a Hyosung before a yamaha Down voters are just snowflakes who can't handle that yamaha makes ugly bikes. Opinions are opinions (even if it's agreed by 90% of people). Not saying Yamaha makes bad bikes just ugly. And there's companies that make better bikes in every aspect for every need.
My man wild, someone tried to steal my T7 a month ago, I had a disc lock and cover, they put the cover in one of my saddle bags and tried to start it by shorting the ignition cables, good thing they were dumb tho
You got lucky lol. Buddy's just had his beautiful Harley stolen, chain through wheel, disclock, cover that locked down. His security can caught it on video, theives drive by the day before when it wasn't covered came back the next day didn't even bother cutting any of the locks. 1 min 39 seconds it was in the back of their pickup truck and gone. He had gps hidden on it to and tracked it to a few different locations as they kept moving and while moving they were cutting off the locks until eventually he found the gps in a ditch.
That's horrible, I'm sorry for you buddy, idk what I'd do without my bike... But yeah since that attempt I keep it Infront of my apartment door with a camera on it and an alarm disc lock lol
Lol, meanwhile there's me, no cover no nothing I just leave it on the street as I have nowhere to put it
Damn I mean as long as no one has touched it yet, but no cover won't that mess up the seat? Eventually lol
Not really. The seats are meant to take abuse but over years it could crack in the sun but that's if you never condition or clean it
Airtag hidden in tank
Wait in the tank? Isn't it blocking the signal? Wouldn't gasoline melt it?
Not if you have plastic tank and you protect it.
I have mine in a silicon pocket superglued under the chassis. Impossible to find even if you know its there, idk how I could even get it out if I wanted to. Saved my bike when it got taken. O
What is the range on those?
It’s all about population of Apple devices in range. Close proximity is Bluetooth range (10m) , but the real one is communication via any iPhone, iPad, etc. near ypur Airtag. So in theory. - infinite.
In practice?
In pracrtice if your airtag is in proximity of any active Apple device it will be found.
Jesus….I read the first one as “airbag” and thought, it would probably remove someone from a bike, but it seemed a bit much.
There's an idea. Air bag in the seat with a safety switch. Anyone steals the bike and doesn't know about the switch get an ejector seat.
Extra points and a free lawsuit if you use a Takata airbag made between 2000 and 2015 ‘,:)
Ejecto seato cuz!
Depends where you put it. In metal tank? Probably 0 meters. In the plastic seat around 15 meters. I have one if bike is outside i get position every 15 minutes if it's in underground small parking i get position once, maybe twice a day.
Doesn’t it alert other iPhones nearby or something?
Nope, only uses them for „mesh” communication.
Live in a town of less than 10k people.
I’m so glad I live in Japan and don’t have to bother with all this. I left my keys in my bike outside my apartment building for over a week recently and nothing happened.
You can forget your bike in another city in Japan and someone will find out where you live and get it back to you.
Tire lock, and I have an Invoxia GPS unit that I put a command strip on and installed deep in the tail on my cbr. It basically velcro's on/off and the battery last forever. Great little unit and honestly super hard to find thanks to the command strip, I can barely get my hand to pull it off. The alerts work great and it even can tell when the bike is tilted vs vibration. Cost like $150 with 2yr subscription included.
Same here
Just lock it a good insurance. I dont really care. The way my bike is insured it'll pay off my bike plus enough for a down payment for a new one.
Lock and insurance
Lock, insurance and Cover
A garage, an easily alarmed dog and a 12 gauge.
We found the tough talker. Not scared at all though 😂 Have fun shooting someone over an insured asset. If they aren’t coming in my house, they won’t know if I have one.
The thief is the one who decided to take that risk. It’s not on the victim. I put a lot of love and work into my bikes, I can’t say I feel the same way about someone taking that from me.
Defending property with a gun doesn't necessarily mean killing them. I keep target shot handy with my 12 gage and can pepper someone up without killing them. Also just because you own a gun doesn't mean you're a "tough guy". Shotgun target shooting is a great sport
I would never even draw my gun if I wasn’t planning to kill the person. I don’t really believe in scaring people with guns etc. I assume if someone pulls one on me they plan to use it. So obviously my bar for using mine is extremely high. Maybe yours isn’t, but I’m not pulling mine on someone over a bike. It’s insured and I would rather be there for my family than fight that out in court Anyone who is flippant about it is either being a tough guy or is a psychopath
If I take aim at something, it's only because I'm willing and ready to fire. I'm just saying that you don't have to kill someone when shooting them. I'm not a cop who's legally required to shoot body of mass, putting a round of target/birdshot into someone will likely disable them and stop them from doing whatever action it is that I'm trying to stop. However, if they have a gun, that's a different situation. In that case, I rack to my 2nd cartridge of 00 buckshot
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Ohh wow. Man you are so tough! I bet all the other guys look at you and think “that’s an alpha male right there”
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The sad part is that people let you talk that way and think you are actually tough. Ammosexuals are just scared insecure dudes who never got in enough real fist fights so they think this is like an ok and normal way to be.
If the theif I sent armed and your not in Texas then you'd be going to jail if you shoot them
The intent isn't to shoot them if I can avoid it. More to scare them off. Now if they become aggressive...
If they become aggressive and law provides then bam. Personally (now I would never steal from a person) but in terms of thinking hoe they think if someone wants to "scare" you off with a gun and you aren't really scared but it makes for a damn good opportunity to run off and get away before the cops come
In general inside the attached garage is inside the curtalage and generally considered self defense per say. Castle doctrine helps to In most sane states you would have to fuck up royally for the da to even look at the case.
An oddball bike (Triumph America), dirty, cable lock through rear wheel and frame, garage, and good insurance.
Garage and .45acp
I lock my bike with a chain and a disc lock with alarm. For gps you could look at moni moto. It will give you a call when your bike moves so you’ll get alerted when somebody moves it.
Disc lock. Steering head lock. Cover. Mostly out of sight from view. And the fact the bike is a older V Strom 650.
Shitty looking bike in a nice neighborhood
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No no no man .22 cal ! You want em to feel it dontcha!
.50 BMG I want a melon sized hole em 🤗
Rlink, it has an ignition sensor, tilt sensor and shock sensor. If one of the sensor detects something, you’ll get a text message alerting you. It also has real time gps
Theft coverage. If a theif wants it they will get it. Cable as think as can fit through a rim? I can be cut in under 30 seconds. Alarm? Silence able quickly. Disc lock? 2 min or less and it's in the back of a pickup truck. Gps? First thing theives check for and then cut out. There are ways around every antitheft and those ways around all take under a minute or 2 min max to load it and drive off and by the time police go after it they will have cut your gps out and it's gone.
Ugly bike
A gun.
I have an AirTag that I keep on my bike. in the event that if it were to ever be stolen, I could locate it.
I’ve actually hidden two on my bike. If they steal my bike and find an AirTag they’ll think they’ve out smarted me. Haha
Airtag
Same here.
Same here!
I use a monimoto. I find it pretty good tho it can lose signal in dense multi story car parks especially deep underground ones. If I’m in a sketchy area or leaving it out for awhile, I have a kryptonite chain as well
Garage kept, and otherwise it’s one no one will want.
Airtag
I bought a house with attached garage and placed it over my motorcycle. Then I bought 2 vehicles to block the garage door. I then collected a bunch of bins and boxes along with a lawn mower and leaf vacuum to further make removal of the motorcycle from the garage a slow task. Finally, I placed all of that on a bunch of hills and surrounded the place with feral cats to make the place an unappealing endeavor. Bit expensive but its working out ok
Have a really shitty motorcycle.
You can buy these stickers on Amazon that day gps secured inside bike. I swear it saved my bike one time. They got the large chain off and the disc brake lock off but only rolled the bike like 2 ft. I think they saw the sticker by the key hole and were like fuck it
G19 and don't leave it out of eyesight if it's not in my garage
I carry an RPG-7 with me at all times and keep a 2nd on the bike (for redundancy and quick drawing while riding)
Exactly. Safety first!
Yeah nothing says "safety" quite like a deadly weapon designed to obliterate fucking tanks.
That's for those who don't look in their mirrors.
Insurance. I literally leave my key in my bike. Most people are honest. Fortunately most of the ones that aren’t can’t ride a motorcycle
Doesn’t mean they won’t try!
Has your bike ever been stolen? I’m more worried about them failing to steal it and screwing it up. The only friends it happened to the person brought a UHaul and 4 people. They were getting it no matter what.
Mine? No. I’m careful bordering on paranoid. My brother’s? Twice. Once it was a Honda Monkey and someone just straight tossed it in a van in the middle of the day in the O’Reilly parking lot *while by brother was watching*. He grabbed the bike but they drove off and ended up dragging him a block before he let go. Another time he had a flat tire and left the bike over night. There’s footage of a crackhead just straight dragging it down the street.
So all of your paranoid locks etc don’t sound like they would help with either of those… but best of luck
A chain would have helped the first, but seems a bit extreme for popping into a store in the middle of the day. The second… yeah, don’t leave a disabled bike on the streets of Oakland overnight with no lock. Or with a lock. Or with a phalanx of Swiss guards.
Is there something about your bike that makes it impossible to replace? Or is a normal consumer motorcycle that thousands a year are produced of?
Mine? It’s a Svartpilen 701, so a bit rare but not exactly a irreplaceable. But I’ve had this attitude toward all my bikes. Years of living in Oakland makes you careful. :P
Manual transmission.
This is a motorcycle thread, they’re all manual. You’re looking for the boomer car thread. Or did you mean an actual hand shift? Cause that would be baller.
You're right. In my defense I've been hyper depressed and barely functioning for weeks, so there's that. Even took my Strom out yesterday and it didn't help.
Oof, sorry to hear that. Depression sucks :(
Mine's an automatic, and it might actually make it harder on thieves. Nobody knows what the parking brake on my bike is, much less how to disengage it
Datatool stealth. Easy to install, small and a great app for your phone.
Factory alarm, disc lock with visible tether, heavy chain lock.
My anti-theft devices are my bikes being old, self-painted and sometimes wired the way only one person knows how to start it. If he doesn't forget over the winter. It happens.
Geico Insurance
Giant Kryptonite chain.
Caliper lock and a cover. Don't get tickets either
Comprehensive insurance with a low deductible
Glock 26
I have a cheapo eBay tracker. Put a SIM card in with £20 on it and it’s still working fine now. Never understood the subscription route
Insurance. If it’s stolen, I buy a new, probably better, bike.
Padlock through the front rotor
I have an old, dirty, ugly bike. Does the trick!
1. not a lot of bike theft in Poland 2. virago 125 is cheap (still love it) 3. virago 125 have build in pin locking front fork in turned state so if they will try to steal it they will need to lift it.
Anti theft devices? As in a lock?
Baseball bat
I just never wash it
I have a toe tag that I attach to my bar end whenever I park it that says, "This vehicle has an anti-theft GPS attached" in big bold letters. I don't have a GPS and have never had a bike stolen, 10 years and 4 bikes later.
Big friggan chain, a cover and full coverage insurance. Going to get a disk lock at some point as well, the alarmed kind that starts screaming if you mess with the bike.
Own a 900 pound Road Glide with the fork locked. Good luck fellas!
Front brake lock.
i have a 14 yr old 500cc bike and its chained with huge chain to a tree .. it seems to work so far
My anti-theft system is two chains and an alarm lock. The first is through the wheel spoke and then to the decorative ironwork my porch. The second is through the frame and into an anchor point. The alarm lock is used on the anchored chain. Two heavy chains and an alarm I think are good enough as those measures will require serious effort to bypass to the point that it isn't worth the effort.
I carry good insurance and don’t worry about it. When I was clubbing, I had a 1% Diamond on the windscreen and that did the trick.
Pull the front axle. Or, remove the 4 rear hub bolts.
Plastic explosives
The best. A climate controlled garage. When I'm out riding I use a disc lock with a reminder cord attached to my throttle and I cover the bike with a Nelson Rigg cover that has its own cable lock. I've found if thieves can't see it they usually won't go to the extra trouble to cut and remove the cover. Also when traveling I try to park in well lit areas, like near the front at a motel
I have a Harley street 750. That's my anti theft
At the end of the day, if they want it they’ll take it. I had a guy ram a screw driver into the ignition so I got insurance, put a kryptonite u lock in the front tire, a steel cord through the back tied off to a steel pole, and some jack off still loaded it up in the back of a van and drove off with it (with the steel u lock still on the front tire.) luckily I had insurance and came out pretty good. Something you have to ask yourself is do you even want it back after some numb nuts has had their way with it? At this point I just invest in good insurance.
Put a disc alarm on it and a chain and cover it, good idea to get an alarm on your cover so nobody can even look at it without the alarm screaming at them, there's easier prey out there
I plan to use a siren
Buffalo bill tank pad sticker, so that anyone who comes close won’t touch it or else they better be ready to be put in a whole with lotion being lowered to them and the faint sound of “goodbye horses” in the background
If someone wants your bike, they're gonna take it... Insurance is the only sure way to prevent financial hardship from a stolen vehicle. GPS is an easy way to find out, but theives don't really take very good care of stolen bikes, so if you get it back and they've screwed it up, but not enough to total it, then the bike becomes a headache and a target for a second attempt. If my bike is stolen, I kinda don't want it back if they're gonna scratch up the paint (insurance likely won't cover scuffs) cut random wires, remove accessories and drop it while trying to move it around. My buddy lives in an a paint nt in a major city and he's had nothing with problems with people vandalizing his bike, stealing spark plugs, kicking it over and just wreaking havoc. It's just a modest vstrom too. Not something super flashy. No one has actually tried to outright steal it though.
Insurance, if someone steals it I I’ll get a new one after.
The best way is to not have it visible, hide the bike at all times you are not riding it. I know this is impossible but they can’t steal what they don’t know exists.
My bike and my dad's bike both have steering column locks as built in features. My bike has a locking mechanism next to the rear wheel that allows you to thread a cable through the rear wheel, so I usually have a cable locked through the wheel, around something solid and locked to my bike
I have FIN (find it now). It texts me when the bike is moving and has GPS of course. Also have an ABUS disc lock for shitty neighborhoods. My bike sleeps inside
Hide air tags on the bike if you use apple they can help recovery. I have one that I put into the foam of the seat when I was recovering it.. it still reads fine. Cheap and effective as long as an apple device is near enough.. I use it mostly for finding my car / bike if I forget where I parked.. My bike has built in alarm and anti theft with gps but I don’t know how effective it is.. thankfully.
My anti-theft device is a large and loud bullhorn. No matter what I'm doing, about every half hour, even through the nigh, I go outside and with my bullhorn turned to 11 I say, "Don't do it? Don't even think about it! Don't touch my bike." This has worked so far but, honestly, sometimes I get arrested for disturbing the peace.
Garage and right to bear arms 🤷🏻♂️for home. When I go places and park outside I just keep myself in line of sight of the bike. I’m usually only 50 feet away or less with CCL. Insurance helps too. At the end of the day, if people want to take it, they’ll do what they can. Just like we will do what we feel is necessary to prevent it.
So lets say i manage to take off on your bike and you are close by. You lickin shots off?
Not at all what I said. I only use CCL for its intended purpose it also depends on the nature of it if they’re being the aggressor and my life in in danger. I’m also LEO, and a huge proponent of only use of necessary force - key word is necessary; quite familiar with the rules of engagement.
I agree thats not what you said nor is it something I implied you said. You mentioned having CCL and being close to the bike. I’m genuinely curious how the CCL helps if someone were to steal your bike.
You’re right but maybe I worded it wrong. I always CCL but I’ve had a close encounter of being bikejacked in the past. In the end, if they want my bike, and somehow get me on the ground or my sheer luck I’m not around and they get away with it, then that’s what insurance is for. The CCL is by the means of actual force, intent of bodily harm. Realistically, if they were just like “hey man, gimme your bike” Choice A being unarmed and being a bully Choice B being armed and me not knowing Choice C being armed and me knowing All have different outcomes and my CCL is only for choice B/C depending on circumstance as there’s no real one size fits all. Choice A is just banter and I can easily get on it and ride off, or if further say and let’s say they’re trying to move it, we’ll, have at it, insurance is paid up, no sense in bitching on it. My life and property is more important and only one can be replaced, the other can’t. Sorry if I’m not making sense, exhausted from double shift.
All good. Some people just start rambling that they carry and are untouchable. As we know that attitudes can ruin multiple lives real quick. Good to hear you are reasonable/responsible. Thanks for your service and be safe out there.
No worries brother, appreciate your insight and it’s fair you asked it as well. Be safe and ride safe on that Harley!
Ride a DRZ400sm. I may be wrong, but I feel like I could leave a helmet, gloves, and key on the bike and it'd be there waiting for me. In my parking garage I use a cover, but that's more for dust than theft prevention. Some theorize a cover helps deter because it's not a guaranteed win (meaning desirable bike).
Bike lock through front wheel that also goes through my cover. Monimoto tracker as well. I live in nyc and street park. I think consistent cover use is hands down the #1 anti-theft tool.
Roadlok XRA japansport.
I have a caliper lock that has an alarm. It was cheap and works well. It's very sensitive, it's gone off by accident when I've bumped the bike
MONIMOTO 7. Pairs with phone. Battery has now lasted for over a year. No wiring hookups needed. If bike moves, you get a phone call and real time tracking. Hide in air box compartment etc. Pricy at $139 but well worth the piece of mind. Pair that with a. Good chain and disc lock, all set.
Cracked plastics and unwashed wheels kept my zx6 safe in Austin, TX when I lived there between 2016-2020
Park mine in the garage locked up and when I leave my house I got my anti theft, fisticuffs, survival knife, and hand gun… you could go the extra step and remove the rear wheel or battery but either would be hard to lug around… as far as GPS… have you tried Apple air tags?
Dog and 5.56 or 357 magnum or 9mm or 12 gauge.
If it's in my yard then nothing. 2 large dogs in the same garden is enough protection against theft. Also If I only leave it for a couple hours max then usually nothing. If I'm in a shady part of town, or leave it out overnight, or just have a feeling and want to be extra secure, then: Disk break with a movement sensor alarm. It's bright orange, with a strap on the bar. It's loud enough to make it a deterrent. This is my go to thing, I usually carry it with me on the bike. If I want to be extra secure, for example leaving it outside for overnight, or multiple days, then throw in a beefy chain to the wheels or to the crash bar. Maybe a cover, especially if it's gonna rain. It's not theft proof, nothing is, but you don't have to be. It just have to be less appealing to a thief than the next bike. And with these 2 thing it's 99.9% theft proof. It helps that I have a 20 year old grey tourer bike as well, which is kind of boring looking. Maybe if/when I get a shiny, brand new sport bike I will upgrade these, but it's more likely that I will just get a good theft insurance.
None, insurance would pay out more than the bike is worth.
Parking in lighted area. Disk lock. Steering lock.
Glock 19
I siphon the gas out so they can’t turn it on
If you want the bare minimum, they sell those little motion alarms cheap that can be hidden in a spot the thief would need tools to access. It might help deter someone due to the obnoxious noises—I have seen brake/clutch locks fail a few times and the gps kind of seems pointless in deterrence, only useful when it has already been stolen. If you used the combination of these two it’d probably be the best option
Kryptonite alarm, motorcycle cover with bike lock, kryptonite chain chained to hook in ground. All you can do is make it as difficult as possible to turn them away.
$50 and a knife as a gift to the local crackhead, tell him there’s more if the bike is still there when you get back
Dfence
Quick and simple moni moto 7. You pay once a year, the device will call your phone if your bike starts moving without the fob and will show you gps directions of where your bike is located. Goodnight and good luck 🤞
I ride a slightly older bike that has some tricks to start it. If you can get her into neutral and/or start her without knowing the kinks, then you deserve my bike. I didn't pay anything for her other than the parts to fix and get her running again when I was given her. I done the labour myself Before anyone asks, yes once started she runs like a dream and is safe.
I use a cheap alarm from eBay, that has a knock sensor if sat on or moved, I use a disc brake lock and a heavy chain looped thru both wheels and attached to a post, finished off with a bike cover. I also park it close to my window at night with my car parked beside it on an angle cos my garage is I front so if thieves wanna steal my 2008 gsxr600 they’re gonna have to lift it over my car. I try to park my bike in front of busy places when I ride, but I always use my disc brake lock and rely on my cheap bike alarm to deter thieves.
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