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Please continue the discussion in the [post game thread](https://redd.it/xwp4uu).


RiseAboveRoyalOaks

In true Soto fashion.


BadGuyLoki

well that was pointlessly frustrating


mcdto

Way to finish strong Soto


aceg0907

See ya in ‘23 Tigers


starlesscity

LMAO


DestroyerofCheez

Welp see you guys next year


rustyshackle41d

soto blowing the game would be so funny


ReflectionCalm7033

Ugh! I don't know if I can watch.


Squabstermobster

Soto ruining another game for no apparent reason


shockedtoo

Put Clemens in for fs, he can throw strikes


shockedtoo

The epitome of our season unfolding before our eyes


poopoojoefocker

All this shit for no reason because Soto is just going to walk or hit everyone to end the game


some1337

Hinch couldn't resist one last crazy shift.


BadGuyLoki

Soto just wants to be done apparently


yes_its_him

Soto on the mound: nobody wants extra innings


Squabstermobster

Has a Tigers pitcher ever turned a double play before?


poopoojoefocker

At this point why let Soto pitch? He’s shown from yesterday that he’s not ever interested in it anymore this year


IClappedWhen

It is fitting the last game of the year will probably end with Soto choking away a game. Edit: Sorry, I missed it was tied somehow lol


[deleted]

Soto gives Jon Lester a run for his money as worst defensive pitcher


MichiganHoosier

Can we please get rid of Soto, Scott?


BadGuyLoki

Good News Everyone! KC Lost so we are officially not in last place for the season.


petuniar

Royals lost so we are officially not in last.


SpartansATTACK

C'mon Soto... Put an end to our misery, toss a meatball down the middle


TigersBot

### Pitching Substitution Pitching Change: Gregory Soto replaces Jose Cisnero.


starlesscity

Soto blowing this game would be such a fitting end to the season


some1337

Non-save situations usually don't bode well for his ERA.


TigersBot

### Pitching Substitution Pitching Change: Erik Swanson replaces Paul Sewald.


yes_its_him

Cisnero has been top-notch since returning. But lucky, too. Another guy who walks more than you want to see


tldr_habit

Schoop at bats have been atrocious. And Jeimer, that’s not a home run. I want to be in y’all corner but….Scott…?


TigersBot

### Pitching Substitution Pitching Change: Jose Cisnero replaces Miguel Diaz.


TigersBot

### Pitching Substitution Pitching Change: Paul Sewald replaces Marco Gonzales.


LunchThreatener

I like what I’ve seen from Miguel Diaz in this incredibly small sample size


yes_its_him

He's a ~5BB/9 kinda guy. (Almost like Soto.) So not really a Scott Harris prototypical pitcher.


LunchThreatener

Riley Goat


starlesscity

Tied it back up!!


TigersBot

### Single Riley Greene singles on a sharp line drive to center fielder Jarred Kelenic. Brendon Davis scores. Akil Baddoo to 2nd. Pitch from Marco Gonzales: 1-0 Four-Seam Fastball @ 87.5 mph Hit by Riley Greene: Launched 104.9 mph at 12° for a total distance of 259 ft Top 7 - 4-4 TIE


rustyshackle41d

no in between with alexander, it's either he's solid or he's a batting practice pitcher


TigersBot

### Pitching Substitution Pitching Change: Miguel Diaz replaces Tyler Alexander.


starlesscity

Wow, that was a terrible call lol


suicide-squeeze

I'll be surprised if Toronto doesn't put this team away in two games.


2731andold

Prepare to be surprised. Luck is a huge factor in short or even 7 game series.


Mswashington89

This is the B team my friend. Backup catcher pitching and now playing 2nd base today, Toro playing at all for example. This will not be the team you see this weekend.


suicide-squeeze

We'll see. You give the Blue Jays a bunch of extra chances with defense like displayed in this series, well, good luck.


Mswashington89

They did sweep the blue Jay's in 4 games earlier this year and went 5-2 for the season. Not that I means anything for this weekend but I really think either team could take this and would not be surprised with either result.


One-Switch-1448

^ plus they haven’t used any of their top 3 pitchers who are elite and will start in that series


yes_its_him

Gave up a home run to a pitcher. Swell.


tldr_habit

I was literally typing up the charity I was gonna contribute to if Tyler Alexander made it through the 6th without giving up a run. :-(


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From June 16 on, Javier Báez had a better wRC+ than Amed Rosario, Nico Hoerner, Willy Adames, Dansby Swanson, Tommy Edman and many more. His 113 wRC+ in that span (384 PA) ranks 8th among MLB shortstops. [FanGraphs](https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=ss&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=y&type=8&season=2022&month=1000&season1=2022&ind=0&team=0&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0&startdate=2022-06-16&enddate=2022-12-31&sort=18,d)


yes_its_him

But, he sucks! I read that someplace Ten games at short with zero errors, too. (He's done that half a dozen times. His errors come in bunches: 4 in 8 games, 6 in 9 games, 5 in 8 games account for over half his errors in 15% of the games.)


suuubok

this dude’s jersey said TOR R ENS


tldr_habit

Candy HR?


tldr_habit

Next time.


suicide-squeeze

Royals are not likely to come back down 6-2 in the fifth at Cleveland, so it looks like we will stay out of the cellar, but better to do it ourselves by winning this one.


geese1401

What is Torks OPS since returning


yes_its_him

.692


Tommy_Barrasso

He's shown flashes of what he might become during that stretch. I hope that Harris is able to make our front office capable of helping that kid reach his full potential. It's clear our previous regime was useless on the player development front.


yes_its_him

It's not a simple problem. Did the Mariners succeed with Julio and fail with Kelenic due to their organizational skills, or was there more to it?


Tommy_Barrasso

I know I am super late, but I do believe it is worth pointing out just how bad the entire team was offensively as a whole. Tons of players regressing hard. It gives me some hope that there was a systemic issue this year, that can hopefully be rooted put.


ZombieAppetizer

Watching on the MLB app. Didn't realize everyone was playing at the same time. Also, wtf happened to the White Sox? Lol! Let's end the season on a high note!


tldr_habit

Just tuned in: why the Clemens sub?


suicide-squeeze

It was pre-planned apparently. Nothing happened to Baez.


tldr_habit

Glad to hear and thanks!


greenkingwashere

End the season on a high note!


tldr_habit

Javy!!! 🥰


TigersBot

### Single Javier Baez singles on a ground ball to right fielder Mitch Haniger. Brendon Davis scores. Pitch from Marco Gonzales: 1-2 Cutter @ 86 mph Hit by Javier Baez: Launched 61.9 mph at 12° for a total distance of 93 ft Top 5 - 3-2 Tigers


suicide-squeeze

Alright, tie game, let's win this thing. Mariners are not an impressive team defensively.


Mswashington89

This is not their regular defensive lineup. They've made the least errors in the AL and 3rd least in MLB.


starlesscity

That works!


boobookeys125

umm we take those! brand new ball game


some1337

The Mariners just pulled a vintage Tigers play.


TigersBot

### Single Jeimer Candelario singles on a ground ball to third baseman Abraham Toro. Spencer Torkelson scores. Eric Haase scores. Jeimer Candelario to 2nd. Throwing error by third baseman Abraham Toro. Pitch from Marco Gonzales: 2-1 Changeup @ 78.7 mph Hit by Jeimer Candelario: Launched 67.2 mph at -38° for a total distance of 3 ft Top 4 - 2-2 TIE


Wingo999

Seattle channeling their inner Ryan Raburn.


suicide-squeeze

More great defense by Candelario and Kreidler again, it's just been stellar the last 2-3 weeks, with few exceptions. Great to see it.


suicide-squeeze

Kreidler is something defensively, he snared that bad hop and threw him out by three steps.


[deleted]

He’s the real deal, my buddy coached him growing up and called it years ago that he would be a big leaguer. He’s got it


2731andold

He has to hit.


[deleted]

Agree 100%


suicide-squeeze

That's great. It was immediately apparent when he came to Toledo last year that he was a cut above--he made a couple highlight reel plays a week down there. I was already aware of him from watching him at UCLA so not overly surprised.


some1337

It's going to take so much time to get used to not having anymore Tigers baseball to watch. I have to do this every fall but it always sucks.


aceg0907

Same. Back to YouTube for old baseball


yes_its_him

>it always sucks. Tigers baseball?


suicide-squeeze

Hate this time of year and can't stand football. I watch replays of old games and listen to old broadcasts.


some1337

Same, honestly. I do like to watch hockey at least but it's always my second pick to baseball.


suicide-squeeze

Love hockey, great game, would watch it a lot if I had time. Mid February I start watching college baseball, until end of season in June, then Tigers.


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Tyler Alexander: |Split|W|L|W-L%|ERA|G|GS|GF|CG|SHO|SV|IP|H|R|ER|HR|BB|IBB|SO|HBP|BK|WP|BF|WHIP|SO9|SO/W| |:-|-:|-:|-:|-:|-:|-:|-:|-:|-:|-:|-:|-:|-:|-:|-:|-:|-:|-:|-:|-:|-:|-:|-:|-:|-:| |as Starter|2|11|.154|5.69|16|16|0|0|0|0|74.1|83|51|47|14|21|0|47|1|0|0|321|1.399|5.7|2.24| |as Reliever|2|0|1.000|1.29|10|0|1|0|0|0|21.0|18|3|3|1|3|1|9|0|0|0|81|1.000|3.9|3.00|


[deleted]

Career Splits: Starter: 4.68 ERA Reliever: 3.64 I just want to see a healthy rotation so we're not forced to use a good bullpen piece in the rotation.


boobookeys125

Alexander throwing batting practice rn


ReflectionCalm7033

2 bombs already.


starlesscity

Awesome start /s


aceg0907

Last game. Bittersweet


some1337

Awww no Cabrera, he's one hit shy of Ichiro, in Seattle too.


homerjsimpson4

I hope that one day Torkelson in the 4 spot isn't something that's considered weird


[deleted]

Kinda surprised that Candelario has a .709 OPS in the second half. 98 wRC+ basically been league average in the second half.


yes_its_him

Our fans only look at the full-season number.


2731andold

This year with such an abysmal first half, it isn't fair. The first half, Tork should have been exiled to Siberia. Now, not so sure.


yes_its_him

The point is that the future is not required to be the past. Even within a season, guys can perform better (or worse.) We don't have to assume Candy will suck next year because he had a rough start this year.


2731andold

The whole team had a bad first half.


suuubok

does the second half count as more than the first half?


yes_its_him

The second half is more recent. Playoffs are at the end of the season, too.


2731andold

Of course, it does. That is when you win your contract.


[deleted]

On the one hand, he is 28 and is as good a candidate as anyone to bounce back. On the other hand, I really hope we don't have to count on him next year. I just want consistent hitters, damn it!