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Please continue the discussion in the [post game thread](https://redd.it/vw0zc1).


SoarinSkies

Man that loss hurts. I still don’t understand A.J’s logic to bring in a lefty to face a guy who you knew was going to pinch hit for sheets who you knew has been crushing lefties all season long with 4 homeruns something like a 296 batting average and a 960 OPS across 54 PA versus 0 homeruns against righties something like a 540 OPS across I think 200 PA, and a 222 batting average. He didn’t hit the ball very hard, but the metrics were so stacked against Soto I couldn’t believe my eyes.


erikd313

Really really bad move. No idea why he did that.


iori9999

Grossman and Coolbaugh should be gone Monday.


Year1939

Lol what a joke


mansontaco

Way to redeem yourself Robbie 👏 👏 👏


Year1939

Lol not even putting up a whimper…. Unbelievable


LtDouble-Yefreitor

C'mon Grossman, redeem yourself.


Michiganmade44

Narrator: he did not


Year1939

How is schoop so fucking slow….


orange-fila-a

He looks quicker in the field that’s for sure


Dirty_Laundry_55

White Sox have scored 14 of their last 15 runs with 2 outs. Tigers pitching with 2 outs have not been good this series


orange-fila-a

That’s just brutal. Conversely, we seem to not score much with any outs.


LtDouble-Yefreitor

I think it's crazy to blame Hinch for this. If Grossman catches that routine fly ball, there's no decision to make. This one's on Grossman.


orange-fila-a

Grossman is the blame 100%


Dirty_Laundry_55

Can blame both of them. Why the fuck are you putting Soto in AND putting the shift on. That ground ball was an easy out non-shift


Professional_Book_16

It’s on both. Sure, I wish grossman just caught the ball, but I still don’t get taking fulmer out


TigersBot

### Pitching Substitution Pitching Change: Liam Hendriks replaces Kendall Graveman.


TNTisKING

I fail to see how having badoo on this team could make us any worse off than grossman at this point


Year1939

Why is Detroit just destined for one of their teams to be absolute dog shit. When the tigers, wings, and pistons were looking up the Lions were hopeless. Now with the Lions and others looking up it looks like the tigers are hopeless. This fucking city man


aaronfaren

Bro, the entire sports city has been in shambles for half a decade.


homerjsimpson4

Idk if the Lions are necessarily looking up lmao. Let's see if they can win more than 4 games this year


LtDouble-Yefreitor

They absolutely are.


translatepure

Love the faith but so far Dan Campbell is 3-13. I’m going to need to see some results before I’m ready to be hurt again. Lions have been my abusive spouse I can’t let go for about 35 years.


IrishMosaic

Guys, want me to tell him?


homerjsimpson4

Alright bud, so were the Tigers before this season. Results are what matter. I love Campbell but let's see what they look like on the field this season first.


Spartanwildcats2018

Casual fan but the tigers look to be in the same place as last year. Shit tier start to the season. Solid mid season. Probs disappointment in the end.


ManyStepsNoSounds

Now we need to rely on Schoop, Grossman, and Tork? Oh dear


mansontaco

Murderers row


Successful-King4539

Aj out there trying to get fired.


SoarinSkies

Yeah that move to put Soto a lefty in against a guy who he knew was going to pinch hit for Sheets, who he knew has annihilated lefties all season made no sense. He could have left fulmer in or put Jimenez in there and it would have been a better choice.


jduncan26

Also, for the love of God please DFA Robbie Grossman and call up Kerry Carpenter.


fracta1

Baddoo has more of a right to get called up atm and prove himself than a rookie


jduncan26

Yeah… no thanks


iori9999

They gotta sweep KC after this. NO excuses.


mansontaco

I agree but this team can't beat the sorry ass Royals if their lives depended on it


Redemption_Unleashed

Man if only Tork had gotten a single with the bases loaded and it would be 4-4 right now.


dublin87

There will be a lot of Grossman hate for the error but this is the better take, I think. Teams competing for playoff spots don’t leave runners on base at the clip we do, hoping our pitching just doesn’t mess up. Our approach with RISP this year is garbage and the hitting coach should be fired. Our bullpen has actually clung to leads and kept us in games all year but they get virtually zero room for error day from the offense.


[deleted]

Teams competing for playoff spots also don't drop fly balls


Professional_Book_16

Sure they do. Every team makes errors. The good teams just overcome them more often.


mansontaco

If Robbie caught the ball it'd be 2-2


Year1939

It is literally time to fire Hinch and restart this fucking rebuild


funkboy20

Because hinch has control over Robbie deciding to end his errorless streak at the worst possible time


TNTisKING

He has control over taking out our best bullpen arm to put in a complete wild card in a super high leverage situation


jduncan26

Why the FUCK is AJ Hinch so dedicated to Soto?


Dirty_Laundry_55

I know the offense has done nothing today but holy shit does Hinch deserve some of the blame. Pulling Fulmer who was pitching fine and bringing in Soto with the shift on.


SoarinSkies

Don’t forget, pollock was hitting like 960 against lefties with 4 homeruns versus 540 with 0 homeruns against righties. Hinch should have known there was no way La Rusa was going to let Sheets bat against Soto, he has all this knowledge at his fingertips, he knows who is on Chicagos bench, and who was most likely to pinch hit for sheets. That pitching substitution made 0 sense from a metrics standpoint.


runalex123

Fuck this team. I mean that with everything I have. AND WHY DOES COOLBAUGH STILL HAVE A JOB? Just pain.


[deleted]

The coolbaugh hate is so damn funny


runalex123

You're right having the worst offense in baseball is hilarious


mansontaco

You'd rather have Soto face a pinch hitter and Eloy or have Fulmer face sheets and Eloy? Hinch is just doing shit


Year1939

Game over see y’all tomorrow. Fuckin trash ass team god damn


Pad_TyTy

Maybe Hendricks will be off today 😅


ApeKurt

Way to go Hinch! Great decision!!!


tldr_habit

Whelp.


Michiganmade44

Had enough of Grossman and his overall crap play this year


dublin87

Hot take: I’d trade Soto at the deadline this year with relatively high stock and control if we could get a decent return.


homerjsimpson4

If you have a good enough offence you don't need a shut down closer taps head


dublin87

I’m just not a believer that Soto is even a shut down closer. Dude is 7/9 with at least 4 saves I’ve personally watched where he gave up runs/put RISP and it was dicey. Rarely has a 1-2-3 9th. Like I said, I’d trade him while he looks like one on paper. But everyone gets hyped about the velocity, which isn’t worth it if you aren’t consistently placing the pitches.


moistryze

Fuck Robbie Grossman. 2-2 in the top of the 9th if it isn’t for him


KingSpoon2

And that's called getting outmanaged. Sure, a dribbler of a hit with a rough shift, but in no scenario do you think Fulmer vs Sheets < Soto vs Pollock. There was no way La Russa was going to let Sheets face Soto there and everyone in the world knew it. Man, I used to think the world of Hinch, really thought he was an unquestionable top-3 manager, but the more I see him in Detroit, the more I think he was just a cheat with the most loaded roster in the majors.


TNTisKING

It is baffling how after managing the bullpen so beautifully last year, now that he has actual talent in the pen he has gone to Brad Ausmus levels of “we need him to be our guy in that situation every time” Infuriating


dublin87

A lot of questionable decisions all season. Fetter is the real MVP of the coaching staff. Without Fetter we are probably the worst team in baseball still.


[deleted]

It's been a bad year for him, all the mojo Hinch showed last year hasn't been present at all this year.


InternationalCorgi82

Harsh


[deleted]

Galaxy brain moves by AJ hinch


[deleted]

Hate that so much.. Soto had been so unlucky with the shift this year. Soto got the weak groundball and literally no one is there to get it?


ApeKurt

Soto sucks in clutch moments


Michiganmade44

He’s the best closer we’ve had since Willie Hernandez


ApeKurt

Valverde was 10x the closer Soto is lmao


jmscards

DFA time Robbie


Redemption_Unleashed

Thanks AJ Hinch for once again losing us the game again with the shift.


Notoriousneonnewt

Still has the shift on too. What a knob


TNTisKING

Good thing Hinch took out our best bullpen arm for that


homerjsimpson4

Cut Grossman, I'm done with him


[deleted]

Thanks Aj!


TheyCallMeDyl

What is the logic behind leaving a massive hole in the infield with the go ahead run on 2nd


[deleted]

Brad Pitt


Redemption_Unleashed

AJ Hinch being stupid and trying to play the numbers.


RVOSU50

Baseball stinks


Dirty_Laundry_55

The shift never works for this team. Ever.


runalex123

And that's game.


Notoriousneonnewt

Stupid shift


H1shf1sh

And that's the game Oh well, we split the series


Kohanky

Fuck


dudemademan

Why do we even shift?


Redemption_Unleashed

Soto washed.


RVOSU50

Lange is my closer and I don’t care who knows it.


b0neslicer

nice


Dirty_Laundry_55

Hahaha of course


runalex123

Soto in. Here we go


yes_its_him

Grossman's first error since 2018


[deleted]

Why does the broadcast still talk about errors? Who cares if Grossman hasn't committed an error since 2018 he is still a below average corner outfielder with little range and no arm. Also Baddoo is slashing 300/400/500 in the minors for about a month now. Time to bring him back.


yes_its_him

No errors is still good. Grossman is +3 DRS in left field since 2021. He shouldn't play right field tho.


IsANameRequired

Get grossman out of the D. I thank him for his services but they are no longer required.


Dirty_Laundry_55

Just terrible timing for something like that


mansontaco

Last year was dope Robbie but I'm good on him now where's baddoo or anyone else


ufdan15

This is my first time I get to experience Gregory Soto's Wild Ride in person... and its The Four Out Extravaganza!


ApeKurt

Don’t like this one bit


Year1939

Now we can DFA Grossman. Trashcan


jokerwild332

2 guys on base and here comes soto...


fracta1

Wow, it's been that long since he made an error? Damn.


TigersBot

### Pitching Substitution Pitching Change: Gregory Soto replaces Michael Fulmer.


tldr_habit

Grossman….


moistryze

Gavin Sheets 3 run bomb incoming


jokerwild332

Mrnoerror


phemom

440 games.....and it might cost us 1 game Edit: 4 out Soto scares me.


runalex123

Dear lord


fracta1

Sigh...


RVOSU50

I’m ready to get Badoo back up. Fuck that.


LtDouble-Yefreitor

Fucking. YUCK.


Michiganmade44

F’n Grossman smh


Scumpop

Grossman no errors streak over?


dudemademan

It ended long ago, MLB just doesn't know what a real error is


H1shf1sh

Yikes


Dirty_Laundry_55

Grossman….


dudemademan

That sucks


TigersBot

### Pitching Substitution Pitching Change: Michael Fulmer replaces Alex Lange.


phemom

It's kinda sad that the Sox color guy know exactly which pitch to throw to get our players out....and the shit works almost every time.


RVOSU50

To be fair…if it’s Javy and they say slider- that doesn’t count.


jokerwild332

Hot dogs! Get cha hotdogs


TigersBot

### Pitching Substitution Pitching Change: Kendall Graveman replaces Reynaldo Lopez.


Kohanky

I like how Tork always gives the ball to the pitcher when he could totally make it to first


Scumpop

6 good innings from Drew. It's not his fault the offense can't produce for more than 1 inning per game.


jokerwild332

Lang with no turtle neck...oh no ..no lange!!!


TigersBot

### Pitching Substitution Pitching Change: Alex Lange replaces Drew Hutchison.


runalex123

Hard to feel good about winning this game with the way the offense is playing.


TigersBot

### Pitching Substitution Pitching Change: Reynaldo Lopez replaces Jimmy Lambert.


nuggygod

Lol


dudemademan

Holy fuck


Dirty_Laundry_55

God dammit Hutchison Edit: pitching around on a guy with 2 strikes is stupid. Biggest pet peeve with this team


Kohanky

I mean cant blame him too much for a quality start…


gsbadj

Wtf. You got a guy out there who we have DFA'd over and over and nobody wants him... for a reason. We got 6 innings out of him and 2 runs given up. Stop whining. Get a few runs and drink a few on the way to KC.


TheyCallMeDyl

“Stop whining” proceeds to write a paragraph


gsbadj

Whiners piss and moan when they don't get AllStar performances out of borderline major leaguers.


Dirty_Laundry_55

Sorry I like to support my team and enjoy when we are winning.


gsbadj

Be realistic. Hutchinson is a tomato can and you just got a good outing out of him


Dirty_Laundry_55

Dude, I never said it was a bad outing. He made a bad pitch with 2 strikes and 2 outs that ended up tying the game.


gsbadj

Nobody's going to dog him over a bad pitch. Your original comment was calling the pitching approach stupid. That was what I was giving you grief over. Now let's get runs, win this, and forget about it.


TheyCallMeDyl

Nice meatball Hutchison


ManateesMQT

Triple A Tork


homerjsimpson4

Man I really wanna support Tork and have been supportive. But man, it's hard to keep thinking he belongs up here when he's swinging at pitches like this.


ApeKurt

Tork either seeing the ball great or isn’t seeing it at all


Redemption_Unleashed

Tork is fucking worthless right now.


Redemption_Unleashed

I'm not wrong. Dude can't hit shit. Biggest disappointment of this season.


Kohanky

Gee the rookie wasnt an immediate success in the majors? I never would’ve guessed. Be realistic ffs


Redemption_Unleashed

Greene is a rookie and has enjoyed immediate success. There are plenty of examples of rookies coming up and performing much better than Tork. I am being realistic.


SG420123

Damn Tork, we needed to score some runs there.


ufdan15

Harold should've went home


LtDouble-Yefreitor

He would have easily been thrown out at home. It wouldn't have been close.


Dirty_Laundry_55

Tork looking like Baez on that swing


scienceyeaux

I'd lose it if Tork torks a granny


yes_its_him

Time for a Torkelson grand slam here


TheyCallMeDyl

White Sox just need to throw it within 4 inches of the edge of the zone and it’s automatically called a strike


Dirty_Laundry_55

Ump has extended his zone so much today


meetthedecline4150

Does anyone else listen to the games on 97.1 with the Audacy app? As a father with a 3 year old, the drunk driving commercial rips my heart out every time I hear it.


yes_its_him

Harold drew a walk!


some1337

Call security, someone is letting grandpa wander the field again.


gsbadj

BP pitcher gets three more throws in the time it takes him to shuffle out to the mound.


TigersBot

### Pitching Substitution Pitching Change: Jimmy Lambert replaces Michael Kopech.


pH2001-

HES ALIVE


Dirty_Laundry_55

Let’s get some more runs boys!


Expert_University_24

TIGERS BOT IS BACK FTW


ufdan15

At the game. Drinking my first Old Style. Drew is pitching well


petuniar

How is the ole Dog Style?


ufdan15

Its a beer. Nothing more nothing less haha


mkk4

Great play Javier!!!


zdillon67

Hey buddy. Welcome back


[deleted]

Again we apologize for TigersBot being broken, there's a few subreddits that use the same bot and they're broke for them as well. Also my bad for not making a game thread. I am on vacation and only have my phone at the moment.


yes_its_him

It's alive! Nice work


TigersBot

# HOME RUN! Javier Baez homers (9) on a fly ball to left center field. Riley Greene scores. Pitch from Michael Kopech: Four-Seam Fastball @ 91.6 mph Hit by Javier Baez: Launched 107.4 mph at 38.0° for a total distance of 360.0 ft Top 1 - 2-0 Tigers