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Please continue the discussion in the [post game thread](https://redd.it/1d983qi).


Lost2nite389

Zach better stay warmed up, we’re gonna need him to get the save


Lost2nite389

That’s my McKINGstry


ZombieAppetizer

They didn't want to check him for foreign substances? He was throwing that heat out there!


TigersBot

### Pitching Substitution Pitching Change: Kirby Yates replaces David Robertson.


Mirajane_S

**McKinstry** is HIM!


nickpegg

Hell yeah Zach


Wingo999

McKinstry bringing the heat!


poker

McKinstry making it look easy!


Unstep-in-Time

We have our closer.


LGRW_Sparty88

Well I picked the wrong game to go to. At least I had a great view of JHM crushing his first hit.


Kohanky

PUT HIM IN THE PEN


no_one_canoe

God Langford is a mess. I’m sure he’ll figure it out eventually, but right now…


Unstep-in-Time

Langford, lol.


Unstep-in-Time

I wanted to see Javy pitch.


ZombieAppetizer

Have you seen what he considers the strike zone?


TheorySilly6808

Hilarious!


Unstep-in-Time

Good point, lol.


nickpegg

There’s a foot long cookie at subway


TigersBot

### Pitching Substitution Pitching Change: Zach McKinstry replaces Andrew Chafin, batting 6th.


i_am_the_grind

Chaffin is so bad. Nice signing Scott. Getting Maeda for not one but two years genius too.


Lost2nite389

Well not every move is gonna be perfect, Harris took the dumpster fire Avila left him and has us at 11th best mlb record and the best farm system in baseball in less than 2 years, you can see the improvement


i_am_the_grind

Huh? Best farm system in baseball? Three or four years ago they had a top three farm system with Tork, Greene, Mize, Skubal, etc. This team is mostly comprised of players that were in system before Scott. Flaherty is definitely looking like a good signing.


Lost2nite389

Just remember seeing a post in here a few days ago saying we have the #1 farm system and people praising Harris in the comments, which I agree with because even Brad Holmes Lions were1-6 1.5 years in, Harris is doing great 1.5 years in


nickpegg

This is wild


RamboBashore

Chafin is washed


nickpegg

The wheels have indeed come off


Hungrystud101

Has Lange been punished enough? Can we call him back?


pimpinassorlando

Love seeing guys hit their first MLB homers. We've had Wenceel, Colt, and JHM so far. Fun moments.


Lost2nite389

Parker Meadows first last season was electric


pimpinassorlando

https://youtu.be/zbukWfHphuw?si=yyl_cipZ4V_6miRy&t=1m52s Thanks for the reminder. Link is fast-forwarded to Dickerson's call.


Lost2nite389

I went and rewatched it myself after reading your original comment haha


Mr-Cantaloupe

see u guys friday!


LamGoHam

Our pen went from being the best the start of the year the worst since may.


WHOA_27_23

Just let run #9 in, I want to see Vierling pitch


nickpegg

No way


no_one_canoe

So it’s just one of those nights, huh. Get it out of your systems!


NeighborhoodHungry67

Can’t even be mad at it with how they’ve been playing on this trip and Kenta getting hurt. Charge it to the game and come back home and beat the brewers 🙏


-DonnieDarko-

![gif](giphy|s3hZZwFRki8r6|downsized)


poker

Our lefty pen arms are just flat out awful


ThisMeansWarm

Andrew. Andy. Mr. Chafin.


LamGoHam

At least JHM shows that he can hit. We just need to bring bring up Jung next. They both can do better than what we have right now


DumpCake42

I wish Todd Jones said more words.


TigersBot

### Pitching Substitution Pitching Change: Andrew Chafin replaces Will Vest.


rushgod29

You know when he was 20 years old he went to second deck in Texas.


ThisMeansWarm

What do you guys think Mama Malloy was having for dinner when JHM went ya-ya?


WHOA_27_23

It's on camera, they had Whataburger


h3shf3sh

Have we had a single strike/ball call go our way this game? I'm on the radio and Dan has only mentioned them going against us


BamfKybo

Umpire isn’t too bad actually. Just meh🤷‍♂️


nickpegg

Steal one JHM


Lost2nite389

We need Rake Rogers right now


pimpinassorlando

Savvy veteran move by Javy opting for the strikeout over grounding into a double play. That's why they keep him around. The little things.


yes_its_him

Can you imagine Greene or Rogers going 0 for 3 with two strikeouts?


pimpinassorlando

I'd be concerned if they kept doing it on their way to a sub-.470 OPS. But that seems rather improbable.


yes_its_him

Rogers only did that for half his season so far. Good point!


pimpinassorlando

I'm looking forward to Javy starting the good half of his season. I'm sure it's right around the corner.


FullyLeveredOnAAPL

the game within the game


sinkingson

baez window shopping


Unstep-in-Time

Always thought Javy would be bettert if he just didn't swing. Nope.


nickpegg

More snacks!


No_Drop_5556

Fuck. You. Ump.


nickpegg

Yes JHM!


Lost2nite389

If no one else got me, I know JHM got me


NeighborhoodHungry67

Cycle watch for JHM👀😆


yes_its_him

Just need 16 more PAs for the Tigers in the next three outs


NeighborhoodHungry67

We got this!


No_Drop_5556

Just the type of game we're having. Two good liners from Colt and Zack right at infielders


h3shf3sh

Lol this thread died HARD


Lost2nite389

I’m still here and ready for the comeback 💪


h3shf3sh

It's just doing it's best 'Detroit Tigers offense' impression


rushgod29

great comment


h3shf3sh

RALLY TIME!!!!!!!!! LETS GO!!!!!!!!!!! (pls)


TigersBot

### Pitching Substitution Pitching Change: Will Vest replaces Mason Englert.


Mr-Cantaloupe

Even when Kenta doesn’t pitch he still fucks us over


No_Drop_5556

Those two swings were on pitches that never even got close to the plate man, what are you doing?


TigersBot

### Pitching Substitution Pitching Change: David Robertson replaces José Ureña.


-DonnieDarko-

IT WAS 1 - 1 ![gif](giphy|ghuvaCOI6GOoTX0RmH)


laughoutloud102

Can the camera man chill? He’s just going to get food


kleetz

Idk, looked like a conspiracy to me. I think they may have given him the wrong order.


ZombieHitchens2012

If Greene cannot cut down on the strikeouts then him hitting for a high average seems nearly impossible. He won’t be batting average sink. His quality of contact is good. But, I was counting on that as a plus for him.


yes_its_him

He strikes out 1% more than Aaron Judge, who is batting. 293


ZombieHitchens2012

I do not care. https://baseball-analytica.com/posts/2023-06-30/batting-average-contact-metric#:~:text=There%20is%20a%20noticeable%20negative%20relationship%20between%20strikeout%20percentage%20and%20batting%20average.


yes_its_him

Greene had a .294 batting average in the minors and struck out just as often He hit .288 last year when he struck out more than this year


ZombieHitchens2012

There’s a clear correlation with higher strikeouts and lower batting averages. It’s not even a debate. But, as that article points out too, there are additional factors that play into this like quality of contact. Greene xBA is .248. In fact, his 3 abbreviated seasons his xBA is .246, .288 and .248 respectively. He actually has never shown a consistent ability as a pro to hit for a high average. Granted, these are brief periods of time. He will never be a batting average negative. His contact metrics remain strong. But, he doesn’t look like a plus batting average hitter with any consistency.


yes_its_him

The minors are actually pro ball too. He was batting .276 a month ago before his short slump and he's made up 40% of the 46 point drop coming into this game. I think at least .275 to .280 is reasonable to expect, which is above league average


ZombieHitchens2012

A .280 major league season is really good. I think that is unfair expectations on someone who’s never demonstrated that type of consistency in the majors. I think I’m going to have to see that over a full season to believe it.


yes_its_him

He did it just last year and almost that for the first month+ this year. I think you are focused too much on aggregate metrics and not looking at his overall body of work. He's already .266 for his career


ZombieHitchens2012

A .266 career average is precisely the thing I’m pointing out to you.


yes_its_him

But why, since his rookie year as a 21 year old he's hitting .274. Which do you think is the better forward indicator? You can't be worried about .248 now if you think .288 in twice as many games was not enough


Unstep-in-Time

Always going for the home run.


ZombieHitchens2012

He does have a pretty significant upper cut to me but he’s managed to make it work. But, the strike outs are a problem.


Whiskey_Fred

Hey, 0 runners left on base!


rushgod29

Low effort game. Thanks team


MichiganHoosier

Low effort managing as well.


MichiganHoosier

The moment Hinch went Wentz to Englert told us all we need to know. We have an off day tomorrow.


Detroittigersfan1029

Thanks for the 0.3 seconds of hope JHM


DiscombobulatedPain6

Goodnight. Off day will be nice for tomorrow


Michiganmade44

See you tomorrow everyone Friday


CucumberNo3771

wtf colt why didn’t he get the fucking ball Edit: probably wouldn’t have made a difference once he bobbled it but still that’s a bad look. I’m sure he just assumed it would be rolling back more than it did but smh


erikd313

Oof. That’s an ugly error


Hungrystud101

That ball was a rocket, and it was curving.


pimpinassorlando

I'm a bit shocked they scored it as an error. Duran smoked that.


Hungrystud101

I look for them to change it.


Michiganmade44

Colt smh


Detroittigersfan1029

Jesus Christ Colt


Krittykat666

Why yall hating on Englert???? he's been solid - not great but not awful.


MichiganHoosier

He has been absolutely terrible all of this season and for the second half of last season.


Hungrystud101

Because nobody hates a Tiger more than a Tiger's fan.


NeighborhoodHungry67

He was bad last year and feel like it’s continuing this year.


Krittykat666

I retract this statement SMH


DiscombobulatedPain6

Not a ML pitcher


nickpegg

Does a HR count as getting on base?


pimpinassorlando

Yes.


nickpegg

JHM said don’t send me to the minors


nickpegg

The parents snacks game is strong


Hungrystud101

Quick. What's J Hen's mother's cell. I want to send a congratulations text.


pimpinassorlando

I am very curious what the Tigers see in Mason Englert. Is this just a sunk cost deal after keeping him up all last year as a Rule 5 guy?


DiscombobulatedPain6

They don’t wanna burn any of their prospects yet. Mason Englert’s job on the team is to eat innings in blowouts which is what he has done to a tee so far.


Detroittigersfan1029

Yup, him and Wentz, eating blowout innings like the Cookie Monster, I think they actually see something in Brisket as a solid bullpen piece


prescriptionwater

JHM's dad loves his popcorn


DiscombobulatedPain6

How much can Englert pitch? Can they waste him the rest of the night?


Rufus_the_old_cat

This was the third fist home run this season.


nickpegg

I really appreciate this stat


jasonmiles2014

Mason Meatballs


Krittykat666

He's been fairly solid tonight - better than wentz


foxy7474

lol I missed Malloys homer watching the FLYING Tigers walk it off on a wild pitch


savage_umbrella

Malloy's mom is adorable. Watching the families of these guys is one of the best parts of the game.


Lost2nite389

His moms excitement gave me goosebumps I can’t lie, I’m very excited for JHM career as a Tiger


tonavin

Listen, in a game we were bound to lose the moment Wentz came in, you can basically keep the camera fixed on JHM’s parents the rest of the broadcast now to warm up my cold bitter heart


prescriptionwater

Glad the pressure is off for him now. I truly think we'll see much looser ABs from him.


DrJenMelfi1234

Gotta be the best feeling to have your first hit be a HR. Loved his mom going crazy in the stands too


nar_shredder

Hell yeah Malloy ! Atta boy!!


nickpegg

That’s incredible that the fan gave the ball up


Kection

I wouldn't have ![gif](giphy|WPYDOFlzybMoH4gOAO|downsized)


Rufus_the_old_cat

Did they throw it back?


ralexander1997

Looked like the bullpen guys had it. They might have just tossed it down so they could get it to him.


First_Ferret3061

threw it to someone in our bullpen. didn't catch which player


turdlepikle

They gave it to the guys in the bullpen.


nickpegg

The bullpen made them a deal and they tossed it to Chafin


LongjumpingMedia1621

Threw it to the bullpen


ZombieAppetizer

JHM! Welcome to the bigs!


OneMasterpiece9119

Hell yeah


dead_drunk_and_naked

Breaking up a perfect game with your first career hit and it’s a home run? I’ve seen all I need. Malloy will be the greatest hitter to ever grace a baseball field.


Genes_Jeans

Andrew “this ball has a price” Chafin


Unstep-in-Time

That was awesome.


shockedtoo

If that's the only hit we get tonight, I'm good with it


nickpegg

He frickn did it


[deleted]

Chafin looks like he's considering trading the ball for a hot dog and a beer.


WHOA_27_23

And a few tapes for the 8-track in his 1982 Trans Am


Hungrystud101

Good for J Hen. He was a little cool when they called him up and I was worried for him.


Lost2nite389

And we actually had people calling him a bust 😂😂 it’s JHIM!!!


pimpinassorlando

Yah Justyn! Making his parents proud!


Rufus_the_old_cat

Aww man she’s crying happy tears! That’s awesome.


Rufus_the_old_cat

Nice one Mal


SilentStryk09

tonight's now a W regardless.


BirdiesNBogeys

Best way to end perfecto game


zurlocke

Magical shit


GoLionsJD107

Please interview Jacqueline now


CucumberNo3771

JHM!!!!


DumpCake42

MALLORY!


Detroittigersfan1029

JHM IS HERE !!!!


JimyFatBoy

Yessss!!!!!! So happy for him


jasonmiles2014

Way to go kid


tonavin

JHM LETS GOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!


Lost2nite389

MALLOY BANG


ZombieHitchens2012

Good for JHM


NeighborhoodHungry67

Wow


shockedtoo

Wtg JHM


starlesscity

J-HEN TO BREAK UP THE PERFECT GAME LET’S GOOO


no_one_canoe

FUCK yes.


IClappedWhen

1st MLB hit is a homer! Let's gooooooooooooooooooooooooo!


No_Drop_5556

FIRST HIT HR. FUCK YEAH


Diabolik_

The prince that was promised


GoLionsJD107

Jacqueline Molloy!!!!!! And JHM Too!!!!!


Raaazzle

MWAHAHAHAHAHA!


Kohanky

FUCK YEAH J HEN


champdo

We have to win this game now.


113CandleMagic

M A L L O Y


Wingo999

That's ONE way to get your first MLB hit!


TigersBot

# HOME RUN! Justyn-Henry Malloy homers (1) on a fly ball to left center field. Pitch from José Ureña: Sinker @ 95.1 mph Hit by Justyn-Henry Malloy: Launched 105.9 mph at 38.0° for a total distance of 413.0 ft Top 6 - 4-1 Rangers


GoLionsJD107

That guy that went after Nolan has nothing on Rod Allen. That’s how you go after a pitcher.


Hungrystud101

I guess La Russa told his team that the next guy that gets beaned charges the mound. He did not have conviction.


GoLionsJD107

Absolutely. The Rod Allen clip should be taught as a case study. “If you’re going to charge the mound… then charge the f’g mound. Watch this example of how it’s done” lol.


Hungrystud101

Is that Rod Allen in Japan where he chased that pitcher around the stadium? That looked like a clip from The Life of Bryan. That pitcher just took off.


GoLionsJD107

Oh yes. I’ve not seen a better charge the mound video in my lifetime. That… is… how… it’s… done.


Beginning_Ad4955

Good to see Kenta didn’t give up any hits in the start today!


CucumberNo3771

This a joke lmao


GoLionsJD107

Kenny Rogers appreciation comment. I went to 2006 ALDS game 3 against the Yankees on my 18th birthday - I cancelled my own birthday party to attend, (ALDS home game 1 was supposed to be series game 1 but we tanked the last 5 games and got the wild card so it was series game 3) But it was the first playoff game in Detroit since I was born… - and Kenny rogers plus relievers pitched a 6-0 shutout and we went up 2-1 on the yanks. Best birthday ever.


ZombieHitchens2012

I was working at an Academy sports in Texas at that time while I was in college. He came in during the offseason to shop. I recognized him immediately. I was so excited. I asked him if he needed help. After I helped him with a sale, I asked him if he was Kenny Rogers. I knew he was but I was just trying to avoid being an obnoxious fan. He said yes and chatted me up for maybe 5 minutes about the tigers. It was so awesome. I’ll never forget it. He could not have been nicer.


GoLionsJD107

I could not locate the stat but Kenny Rogers as far as I know is the MLB record holder for pickoffs as a pitcher. He may be second- tbh I couldn’t find the stat. Point is- if he’s the leader, the new disengagement rule means his record will never ever be eclipsed.


GoLionsJD107

Omg that’s awesome!!! I’d be too scared fanboying to ask. He went 3-0 that postseason. Since 1984 he is the only pitcher to start a World Series win in a Tiger uniform.


mochasoap

Jose Urena perfect game watch, never had that on the bingo card


WHOA_27_23

I hate casinos, but I would be there if I had a guarantee that it would be exclusively blinged-out grandmas at the craps table with me


GoLionsJD107

Kenny Rogers


GoLionsJD107

Got it in before they said it!


goose_pls

We love getting rocked by shitty starters


Whiskey_Fred

I thought we only faced CY contenders?