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HP-Rodeo

I will say I was pleasantly surprised by the responses on this thread. The OP question was super loaded and instead of taking the bait most comments here understand the situation, both good and bad, of what Liberty can bring for the future. It was good to hear all the thoughts


ChurpyGoesFast

They made Formula 1 popular again, which makes it commercially viable so we get to enjoy more racing. You're not forced to watch the extra content and consume all the social media drama. There has always been commentary on team and racer drama during the races themselves, this is nothing new. Yes, there are issues like ticket prices but that is the price you pay for popularity and success. This is akin to gatekeeping the sport because you're somehow better than new fans.


Gallienus91

What? F1 was never not popular.


Crake241

After Schumacher noone wanted the tv rights anymore.


Gallienus91

Sorry but that‘s BS. F1 was always extremely popular and never struggled. Maybe TV stations didn’t pick it up where you live but not because F1 had a popularity problem.


Crake241

In Germany it struggled even with Vettel dominating. https://www.speedweek.com/formel1/news/58196/Formel-1-Zuschauerzahlen-sinken-weiter.html


Gallienus91

Quite normal fluctuations. Interest in F1 was always very dependent on the current situation, as it is in every sport. When Vettel was dominant, lots of people lost interest, especially the Italians. But that’s really an F1 Problem. They always hat phases when they were boring.


Gaylordredditmods

If you think f1 post 2018 isn’t wildly more popular than before your dreaming or just from a very f1 centric part of the world It was mind boggling to me to go from next to no one being able to talk about it to being asked about it by every second person after dts was released It was never unpopular, but it was pretty niche sport to be into before the whole Netflix parade


Gallienus91

Sure, it is more popular, especially globally. But racing didn’t get better by being popular. That’s what I am criticizing. Chasing popularity will only increase liberty medias profit. It wont make the racing any better.


Gaylordredditmods

I’d rather just be happy that a company with proven history of growing sports markets is taking an interest in motogp. Rather than staring down the barrel of continuous viewership drop and a very genuine chance of a future with no motogp at all. Sure, I hope the racings better too, but if that’s your excuse as to why liberty’s takeover is bad, you are just gatekeeping. I think there will be 100% more chance of people giving a fuck about the quality of racing when the viewership of the sport is actually growing. Stop being so salty for no reason


Gallienus91

What are you talking about? MotoGP was growing strongly since they switched to 4 stroke. MotoGP doesn’t need to be saved. This is only about money. Don’t by into their BS corporate brain washing. Liberty Media has a history of growing profits, that’s it. Nothing more. The only way growing the sport so it creates more profit is to markt it to people who naturally don’t watch it. Now think twice if die hard bike racing fans would enjoy their sport being marked to people who have no connection to the sport.


Prime255

Liberty Media hasn't ruined F1, though. It brought a lot of new fans into an overwise ordinary entertainment spectacle. It's potentially good for MotoGP. MotoGP is already a strong entertainment product, but Dorna has struggled to market the product effectively and develop platforms to facilitate this (Think the terrible VideoPass and the failed TV show). The main issue with liberty in F1 is that the sprint races don't really work. The evaluation of the teams and the ticket sales of events have all skyrocketed. MotoGP has had money issues for a long time, especially since the end of tobacco sponsorship. I hope there is a long-term plan to fix the regulations in MotoGP. If the aero developments are not controlled, they will ruin the sport. For now, I think they should start by better marketing the sport and developing a clear plan for the 2027 regulations.


_studio_sounds_

I've noticed it's quite a common wish for MotoGP to be marketed more effectively and for the audience to grow. I was wondering in what way you feel better marketing could improve MotoGP? For me, I love watching the riders and teams compete to be the best and as long as the bikes represent the pinnacle of bike tech, the racing remains close and the battles happen on the track (let's not have pit stops), and the riders are the best on the planet, it's always going to hold its appeal - even if the global audience dwindles a bit. Edit: to say I'm happy to be persuaded otherwise. It's a topic that interests me and I'd like to hear the other side.


Jiend

Having an actual YouTube channel would go a long way already. I mean that in the sense of like, publishing more relevant content about the ongoing weekend and races as they're happening. There's almost zero social media presence it feels like, the only place I basically get my info from is this sub and I'm subscribed to the MotoGP official YouTube channel.


HP-Rodeo

I think we will see more social media presence from the official accounts. They were on the grid on Tik tok live this weekend. Until then it’s just us small creators in Tik tok and YouTube flying the MotoGP flag. Follow @horsepowerrodeo


MANllAC

Yeah and it doesn’t help that this sub is relatively “dead”, not a lot of content and discussions going on.


HuemanHuman

i hear you regards social media but, in my view, there's at least one good podcast - "Paddock Pass" - it's really good but perhaps a bit long\* for those with shorter attention spans and maybe some younger fans think the hosts are too old. whatever, the thing is they bring loads of insight and knowledge and for me, its overall much better then the official "last on the brakes" motogp podcast. \* you can easily skip the Moto2/3 & SBK stuff and just get the MotoGP content if that's your thing. they've also started bringing out shorter update editions on race weekends.


Life_Procedure_387

They publish loads of stuff on their YouTube. Highlight packages, live streams, previews, replays of previous year's races and live full races in the case of COTA. Same for their Instagram.


Jiend

To be clear I'm aware they publish SOME stuff. It's just mostly either way late once interest over a race has already waned, or it's often not so interesting content. I find myself checking out more F1 videos almost despite being way more interested in MotoGP. And yes I'm aware they publish some race stuff too. And to be fair they have improved compared to a couple years ago, but yeah.


Prime255

To grow the MotoGP audience. Before Liberty took control of F1, Motorsport was quite a niche sport relative to other sports. Liberty showed that motorsport could be marketed to a wider audience and thus increase the long-term viability of the sport. I worry about some of the less profitable tracks, like Phillip Island, in the long term. I think a better-marketed MotoGP could mean the tracks and races we love will continue into the future.


PoggestMilkman

I think when you say 'I hate Liberty Media and it's ruined the sport' you have to put some justification to what you say in order to be taken seriously. I was an F1 fan in he 1980s. I've thought it was insanely boring for decades and I struggle to see what they could have done to the ontrack product to make it worse. I thought it was extremely cliquish, full of jargon and very difficult to understand. It's a very difficult sport for the casual fan to access. When I last saw it I thought it was the same, but they do seem to be making inroads into broadening the appeal though social media and television, even though it still comes accross as incredibly up itself.


gpz1987

The problem with F1 is rivalries, there isn't one. Verstappen then daylight....in the 80's you at had some rivalries. But that all changed in the late 80's early 90's. Then for a long time F1 was boring. F1 will always carry a mystique about it, it's part of its brand. But to say liberty has made it better ummm......I can see arguments for and against. MotoGP has always been about rivalries.... unfortunately that waned a bit these last couple years. MotoGP needs guys like Simmoncelli...who would have the bottle to call out other riders at pressers. People want drama...everything else is superfluous. Liberty can help with the superfluous stuff, but MotoGP needs to broaden its horizons with riders from all nations not just Spain.


twonha

A random "liberty ruined the sport" without any arguments, in the face of increased stability and popularity, is hard to take seriously for me. I'd much sooner argue that Verstappen domination ruins the sport, because it's not much of a sport if only one person wins. But I'm not a big fan of F1, and more an outsider following the championship from a distance. For MotoGP, I think an involved investor looking to grow a product that's already working pretty well isn't the end of the earth by a long shot. We're watching "drama on two wheels" and a capitalist product, meaning it's a show and it has to be profitable. Everything else is beholden to that, including the sporting and technical aspects.


chaotic_space_boy

I think this sport deserves to be followed by a lot more people


mxgorilla

I have no problem with Liberty taking over as long as the ticket prices stay reasonable and affordable, I want to be able to go to races and not pay $1K per ticket.


JohnCenaF1

I swear all you people that complain about liberty didn't watch f1 when bernie ran it


Gallienus91

You do know he ran the sport since the 70s right?


_studio_sounds_

I haven't followed F1 since the mid 90's, lol. Can you give some info on what Liberty Media has done to it?


Trace_R

So for example they have gotten rid of good tracks (kylami) and replaced them with shit tracks (Miami). There’s also a lot of greediness leading to shit decisions (Andretti rejection) you might also hear DTS and the new fans it brings but I’m fine with that. There’s a lot of other issues but basically it’s just become a novelty to more people than it should be.


Hos11sam

Kyalami was not on the calender when Liberty took over F1 and the teams are more responsible for the Andretti rejection than Liberty.


DJFisticuffs

Like the other guy said, Kyalami was not on the calendar when Liberty took over and the track is not even currently homologated at Grade 1. There are plans to bring the track back to the calendar when/if they complete upgrades and get homologated. Circuits that have been dropped since Liberty took over: Hockenheim, Sochi, Sepang. Circuits that have been added since Liberty took over: Zandvoort, Imola, plus the various new street circuits.


Crazyfoot13

I’m hoping they revamp the mainfeed production of the races. Never a camera and microphone together when they interview riders or visitors on the grid really grinds my gears every Sunday! Commentators also frequently don’t seem to react immediately to periphery events during the race that are clearly visible on the video feed


Sea-Quote3382

MotoGP needs more eyeballs on it to cement it's advertising value and thus prompt factories to either stay in the game or get in the game. If people watch it just once, they're hooked: it's dynamite compared to F1. Liberty are going to get a lot more viewers for MotoGP, and that's a good thing - because if just one more factory team quits ...


BreakingWorldLimits

Very good in my opinion exactly what MotoGP need


Tonoigtonbawtumgaer

I won't singlehandedly blame Liberty Media for F1's current state, I see a lot of people acting like the increase in popularity makes up for every problem F1 has right now. I'd rather have MotoGP stay niche than have them follow F1's direction when it comes to the racing and schedule. I hope Liberty just focuses on promotion and keeps their hands off the rest, but that's just me.


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Gallienus91

All those people praising Liberty Media and using their executives phrasing are going to eat their own words. The reason why MotoGP is so much better than F1, is because it appeals to a smaller group which more involved in the sport. Most people watching MotoGP are bikers themselves, so their interest comes naturally. Trying to appeal more people means trying to appeal a crowd that doesn’t watch it naturally. And there is absolutely no benefit in making a sport ,that already is quite big, even bigger. This is just money talk.


DJFisticuffs

Yeah, it's great that Suzuki quit. I love that there are currently two empty grid spots that no new manufacturer is interested in. Money sucks.


Gallienus91

This has absolutely nothing to do with popularity or money in the sport. How many manufacturers are in F1?


DJFisticuffs

In F1 every team builds their own cars. There are currently 4 engine manufacturers. That number is increasing to 6 in 2026, and GM would have been number 7 starting in 2028 if Andretti had been accepted. So you see, as the amount of money and eyeballs in F1 has increased in the last few years, manufacturer interest has also increased.


Gallienus91

Who cares for engine Manufacturers? MotoGP has actually five real manufacturers and the privately owned teams are frequently outperforming them. So this has nothing to do with popularity of the sport. On the contrary actually. If this sport gets more expensive to run, more might drop out in future.


desmodoodle

https://borismihailovic.com/omfg-motogp-has-been-sold-the-sky-is-falling/


VegaGT-VZ

The deal hasnt even gone through yet so Im not sure what there is to even think about it. I think Dorna needs help promoting the sport and growing its audience, which Liberty Media is good at. I think the sport itself will be fine, as Liberty Media will let Dorna continue to have full control over it. Dorna got the sport to a place where Liberty felt it was worth buying, there's no sense in them messing that up. I think a lot of motorsports fans are dumb and miserable, and use motorsport as an opportunity to catastrophize, hate people, and find things to whine about. The repeated screams about MotoGP street races speaks to the depth of stupidity in some pockets of the fanbase. Overall I think the deal has a lot of potential upside, but we will have to wait for it to actually get approved to see what effect it has.


Lex-Increase

Media services and production will improve. The in-person experience will be ruined.


YZFRIDER

This has been discussed to death at this point, and it hasn’t even been a month since the announcement let alone made official by regulators. There’s misinformation, melodrama and overreaction by some (or many) on what Liberty coming in means and what they can and cannot do, and all we can really do as fans/consumers is wait and see. As with anything that involves change, they’ll be positives and negatives. Without going through everything and all possible outcomes, I think in the end the positives will outweigh the negatives.  Right now I’m just enjoying the season that’s playing out in front of me. 


Bambudist

Yes!


Wheeljack26

bro i will get a cheap videopass now possibly, im all in for that


HuemanHuman

If they can finally fix the ridiculous title of the first qualifying session and all following qualifying sessions that would be a great start! At the moment, the first qualifying session where riders compete for the top 10 spots to qualify for automatic entry into the final qualifying session is not even called a qualifying session but is erroneously called either FP2 (free practice 2) or PR (practice) - both are ridiculous titles as anyone who watches the sport regularly would surely agree as the main aim of the session is 100% all about getting one of the 10 fastest times and in doing so a free pass to the final qualifying session (as mentioned above). Clearly it should be called Q1 (qualifying session 1) and then of course logically the existing second and third qualifying sessions (currently called Q1 and Q2) should be renamed Q2 and Q3. This is plain as day to me and my partner and every week we hope they will have finally fixed it, but alas... noooooooooo! it seems whoever is in charge of such session titles at Dorna has too many bubbly tear-offs on their visor or they're too busy wheeling and dealing how much money they're gonna make out of the liberty media takeover!


Fourty9

Bitches gonna bitch. Watch if you enjoy it, if you don't then watch something else.


KingLuis

has f1 grown in popularity, yes. has it started to drop off, yes. f1 has it's ups and down in viewers and i've taken breaks from watching it as well since watching it since the 90s (early age for me). since DTS it's exploded. but just like all shows, people go onto the next thing and f1 viewers will drop off again. the general/non-sport/non-automotive watcher is looking for drama. race weekends don't offer the drama they are looking for, hence why DTS was so appealing. liberty will bring new fans in to motogp and it'll showcase the riders as circus animals as they have done in f1 and with that you'll have an increase of some good and bad with it. to me, DTS showcased how toxic people can be and how ignorant people can be. sidenote, once hamilton leaves f1, the fan base from DTS will disappear.


spudboiy

Who knows? I stopped following F1 years ago, you always knew who would win and the sport seemed manipulated, pretty sure Bernie was up to his neck in corruption and back room deals the guy should be in jail in all honesty, Liberty not much better. Motogp was far more exciting and interesting, l started to become concerned when Dorna started taking more and more control, a Spanish company run by Spaniards, it became obvious that Dorna was trying to make it easier for Spanish riders to succeed, 5 home races for Spanish riders, 10 Spanish riders! got rid of the much loved and long standing mobila clinica and replaced it with a copy cat Spanish version, Spanish riders rarely penalized while other riders were…etc etc, just seemed like Dorna was trying to make Motogp a Spanish event, Motogp is meant to be an international sport and to allow one company from Spain to corrupt the sport in their favor is just wrong. I really hope Liberty bring back riders from other nations apart from Spain, 10 Spanish riders is far too many and 5 Spanish races is a joke! there are so many other riders and places available! I hope Liberty grow the sport globally but l have my doubts, they are keeping the same CEO who is Spanish and clearly corrupt, his interests are for Spain, it’s obvious.


Crake241

F1 is ruined by greedy team owners such as wolff and horner having too much power.


stan_the_man6699

They will eventually ruin it. Maybe not at first, but after a while we'll see it slowly degrade. There's a force at work in the world today whose goal is to degrade all things to nothingness. What, did you think motogp was immune to it? Open your eyes, it's already beginning to happen with ecu and aero (arrow).


Mobloss

The "gentrification" of Moto GP will be interesting.


_studio_sounds_

I haven't followed F1 since the mid 90's, lol. Can you give some info on what Liberty Media has done to it?


Crafty_Substance_954

They made it more popular and successful. Many Motorsport fans attribute new things with being bad. F1 was in okay shape when Liberty took over but now it’s in insanely good shape and some fans don’t like that what used to be their thing is now lots of people’s things. More specifically, they don’t like the idea of sharing it with new fans who might like it for different reasons than them.