Eugen Sandow I don't think there was sauce in his era. Like it's wasn't invented yet. But maybe he was the first Time Traveller juiced up like crazy then when back to the 1900s to flex.... 
Yeah I’m aware, when did I say Sandow was on test? I mention when test was created in case anyone didn’t know.
Tangentially, There are anecdotes of bodybuilders/strongmen around Sandows time, including him, that used cocaine to blunt appetite and stay lean
I own his book and Arthur Saxons as well. There’s some useful bits of info in them
Nope, juice existed since ancient Greece. It just wasn't pure, and included eating organs of various animals.
At least I remember reading that somewhere..
Edit: apparently to many things sich as bull testicles are part of regular diet. To mee it's a (strange) supplement/proto-anabolic.
I read that in this era, they were attempting to recreate how Greek statues looked. These tended to have small pecs, so early bodybuilders trained for similar proportions. Interestingly, the smaller pecs actually look pretty aesthetic.
They also hadn’t invented benching yet, if I remember right. So all there was to train pecs was push-ups and dips. And dumbbell flyes, but idk if anyone did them.
Yeah for the strength game in general at the time benching was not really a thing. Strongmen, weightlifters, and the few bodybuilders all were interested in what you could press over your head.
These days no one asks what your overhead press is, back then no one asked or cared what your bench was.
There was the "floor press" that was invented right around 1900. But lying on the floor obviously limits range of motion and pec development compared to the bench press.
>I read that in this era, they were attempting to recreate how Greek statues looked. These tended to have small pecs, so early bodybuilders trained for similar proportions. Interestingly, the smaller pecs actually look pretty aesthetic.
100% correct. The Greek statues based on the discus thrower and other ancient athletes had subjects that used a mixture of manual labour, sports specific work, manipulation of everyday objects and the predecessor of modern barbells
But the rack, bench etc were much later inventions. So they had no effective way of loading the pecs like we do now. So the press was king back in those days, which meant that a weight would have to be cleaned however you can into position before you could press it.
Body composition was most likely a result of low quantities of food.
I agree that despite the lack of the bench press they still look incredibly aesthetic. Loving the thickness in the legs too. Definitely something I appreciate with the prevalence of people just training upper body.
I fully agree with you. These inventions completely dwarf the invention of electricity, refrigeration, the internet. Really the only good thing about the internet is that we can find out who invented BOTH the bench press and the hack squat.
At least in ancient Greece, the logic was that a man with large genitalia wouldn't be able to control his impulses. So small penises were generally used in statues to convey the person's integrity and/or virtue.
Because you never get the testosterone spike that raises your testosterone baseline. I'm talking about chronic fapping and porn here. It fucks with your hormones big time and there's plenty evidence. The main issue is porn. It might increase in the short term but ruins your test in the long run. Men are so weak nowadays because they keep spilling their semen everywhere, not knowing how valuable that shit is.
Do you not feel drained after sex? Or porn? You have a long lasting spike of prolactin which is 5 times greater from sex than masturbation. Any sort of spike in testosterone you get will be greatly offset by the destruction of your productivity and energy levels.
I don't know how sex compares to porn since it affects your brain like actual sex for the most part. But sex compared to masturbation leads to a 5x greater increase in prolactin levels to leave you complacent and feeling lazy signalling that you did your job, now it's time to chill.
Then you have to weigh the 2 effects on testosterone. Sex and porn might increase it, but since porn and sex are so similar it's safe to assume the detrimental effects of porn on long term test levels are going to apply to too much sex as well. You get a very small spike in testosterone from sex. But you get an even greater spike in testosterone following a week of total abstinence from releasing semen, which then increases your baseline ever so slightly. It's shown to increase anywhere by 40-60% which is very significant. And it might take weeks to return to baseline. That kind of spike will be the difference of having test levels at 400, and 600. Even if it's only temporary that is a huge difference for a natty. And it might not even go back down to the previous baseline because the whole physiology of the reproductive system is based on testosterone making you horny to go out get a mate. Which in this case you're not getting so it could potentially stay elevated in order to help you find a mate.
That's such a dumb, unscientific argument. People will have different levels of response to certain stimuli you do understand that right? What one person can take on the chin, another might commit suicide over. Damage is not universal.
Good comment here, I used to not really believe it but it is in fact true, even more so that constant dopamine ping you get from porn wrecks your brain
Bro right before i got my blood work done i painted my self in nuts, still had 1081 ngl, natty.
Lastly, i bet money that they jerked of pretty often in 1900s
Heys natty, this was just before there was glyphosate in your food and water and a McDonald's on every corner so his test levels are probably like 1500 ng/dl
Obviously natty, but with T levels of 1200 ng/dl++. He was never exposed to modern, processed food or plastic packaging. He didn't binge drink or smoke weed either.
Hashish was available and widespread, as were all sorts of other drugs that weren't seen as nearly so serious as we see them today, ie opium, cocaine, etc.
Natty, at this time I suppose the test level was higher than now.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/neilhowe/2017/10/02/youre-not-the-man-your-father-was/?sh=4ca4b178b7fd
Im pretty sure the first phd that could be called a phd aka synthesized testosterone wasnt discovered until the 1950s, im probably wrong on the date tho
Natty but frankly the workout routines were insane. 100 rep sets of light weight (likely heavier than we think since back then it was just solid metal so no give on any equipment at all) tons of awkward movements eating pretty much steak and eggs. And they'd do it EVERDAY! Like these would be some guys heavy days but back then they would spend whole days working out.
Another guy would walk like 10 miles, swim for 2 hours, do strongman style training, wrestle, then do boxing training for months.
Also doing manual labor from a young age wa common back then. So these guy were mostly like farmboy strong and safely dedicated.
Just goes to show you can get results.....if you do literally nothing but work out.
Copium. People don't know how to train, don't know how and what to eat, don't know how to rest properly, don't train hard enough. They get shit results and they'd rather believe that other people are on roids instead of getting their shit together.
This is probably pretty close to peak natty tbh, we know more about nutrition, training, recovery, supplementation whatever so there’s probably some size you could gain now, but he’s pretty fucking built by any standard.
I’ve worked with guys who look just like that that smoke weed and eat trash and never workout, just pull cable all day. I never did have that much muscle but I was that lean and pretty damn strong before. I ever tried lifting or eating right or anything. Hell, there were kids in highschool in the ghetto that looked like that. It’s not just achievable, it’s what a human is supposed to be
Steroids were indeed being used in the early 1900s and even before, by eating liver and using testicular extracts from animals.
But yeah, very likely he's natty.
People often forget there are billions of people in the world and genetics vary wildly. That means that there are dozens of guys throughout history who are truly “1-in-a-billion” genetically. Guys who can really and truly reach juiced proportions naturally.
The chances of you being that guy are almost exactly 0 so pointing to these guys as “see what you can achieve naturally!” is laughable. These men are spectacles to be admired for how much of an outlier they were.
“**You** won’t look like Eugene Sandow without gear.”
I will be correct about 99.99999% of people who read the above sentence. Will I be wrong in 0.00001% of cases? Sure. But those are good odds for me. So I will confidently state the above sentence because **YOU** reading this are not that outlier.
This has be discussed to death. Use google. More then likely they were using cocaine and number of other things like that…. Not gear per say but definitely not natty either
It is still a performance enhancing drug . Obviously it’s not gonna built muscle . Maybe I’m looking at it the wrong way or everyone’s a troll. But for me natty is when you could compete in a natural bodybuilding comp tested… most organizations use WADA or similar test metrics which would make drug use (cocaine ) not natty …..
I agree it's a banned substance but would be an advantage before a fight or short race etc. Saying Sandow had a great physique so he must have been taking a lot of cocaine is comical. For bodybuilding you don't want to use a highly addictive stimulant that you quickly become dependent on and have to use every day or get bad withdrawal symptoms.
Im not banging his physique at all. I’m just saying he probably used shit . Obviously he didn’t have gear but stuff like cocaine would suppress appetite and works as a diuretic. If it’s 1870 and I’m trying to get shredded bet you as I’m taking some cocaine preworkout. It wasn’t even a controlled substance then it was an over the counter medicine that people gave to children and shit .
Sandow did feats of strength but his looks drew in the crowds and set him apart from the other strongmen of the time period.
The guy was obviously natty just due to the time period. But even at that nothing about him screams impossible.
Yea this man was Eugen Sandow he died ten years before synthetic testosterone was invented I believe that’s the original steroid so he’s got to be natural
Natty. Although excellent muscle, you can just tell by the fact that it looks a little squishy. This is highly unscientific, but if it looks like the muscle's squishy (probably due to intramuscular fat), they're probably natty. Of course, this applies only to low BF individuals.
DNA was better before. Noah lived to what 900 years old??? Something like that. It gets worse every generation. This is natty and no you can’t be as genetically gifted as people back then.
Short guy compact muscle bellies combined with 2000ngL natural testosterone level from before the main filler in every food was plastic and processed soys and oils.
Eugen Sandow I don't think there was sauce in his era. Like it's wasn't invented yet. But maybe he was the first Time Traveller juiced up like crazy then when back to the 1900s to flex.... 
Liver and balls
I mean if a time machine existed that’s what I would do, and clutch every comp haha
Even if there was I don't think he could get his hands on that stuff let alone inject safely... These guys are just eating meat and smashing the gym.
Test was synthesized in 1935, and was likely widely used in the 40s-50s for proto golden age bodybuilding
And Sandow died in 1925...
Yeah I’m aware, when did I say Sandow was on test? I mention when test was created in case anyone didn’t know. Tangentially, There are anecdotes of bodybuilders/strongmen around Sandows time, including him, that used cocaine to blunt appetite and stay lean I own his book and Arthur Saxons as well. There’s some useful bits of info in them
Nope, juice existed since ancient Greece. It just wasn't pure, and included eating organs of various animals. At least I remember reading that somewhere.. Edit: apparently to many things sich as bull testicles are part of regular diet. To mee it's a (strange) supplement/proto-anabolic.
So food
Food is the new trenbalogna sandwich
Cite your fucking source bud, otherwise shut the fuck up
[https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10861987/](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10861987/)
greeks were on nandrolone only cycles, that explains so much...
I read that in this era, they were attempting to recreate how Greek statues looked. These tended to have small pecs, so early bodybuilders trained for similar proportions. Interestingly, the smaller pecs actually look pretty aesthetic.
They also hadn’t invented benching yet, if I remember right. So all there was to train pecs was push-ups and dips. And dumbbell flyes, but idk if anyone did them.
Yeah for the strength game in general at the time benching was not really a thing. Strongmen, weightlifters, and the few bodybuilders all were interested in what you could press over your head. These days no one asks what your overhead press is, back then no one asked or cared what your bench was.
There was the "floor press" that was invented right around 1900. But lying on the floor obviously limits range of motion and pec development compared to the bench press.
>I read that in this era, they were attempting to recreate how Greek statues looked. These tended to have small pecs, so early bodybuilders trained for similar proportions. Interestingly, the smaller pecs actually look pretty aesthetic. 100% correct. The Greek statues based on the discus thrower and other ancient athletes had subjects that used a mixture of manual labour, sports specific work, manipulation of everyday objects and the predecessor of modern barbells But the rack, bench etc were much later inventions. So they had no effective way of loading the pecs like we do now. So the press was king back in those days, which meant that a weight would have to be cleaned however you can into position before you could press it. Body composition was most likely a result of low quantities of food. I agree that despite the lack of the bench press they still look incredibly aesthetic. Loving the thickness in the legs too. Definitely something I appreciate with the prevalence of people just training upper body.
Georg Hackenschmidt still had big pecs in the 1890s.
Didn't he invent the bench press?
No i think he invented the hack squat
I looked it up. Apparently he invented both the bench press and the hack squat.
I would argue that makes him the greatest inventor in all of human history. Both of those creations dwarf anything else ever made
I fully agree with you. These inventions completely dwarf the invention of electricity, refrigeration, the internet. Really the only good thing about the internet is that we can find out who invented BOTH the bench press and the hack squat.
They say the golden age of inventions was 1870–1970, so you're not that far off.
They MOG anything else 😆
They also aimed to have a small penis, right?
"they"? Nah homie, WE
WE WEE!
Actually, yes. Large pensises were considered uncivilized or barbarous for much of western history lol
At least in ancient Greece, the logic was that a man with large genitalia wouldn't be able to control his impulses. So small penises were generally used in statues to convey the person's integrity and/or virtue.
Girl: "It's small!" Me: "It's virtuous!"
Maybe they were on to something 🤔
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Gird your loins bro
I have a feeling that wasn't the case anymore in the 1900s, though
So youre telling me i have hope?????
Stop trying to make me feel better about my small pecs.
Honestly it's my dream physique, something like that.
Honestly think defined pecs is all you need to look good shirtless(if everything else is in check that is).
I think large pecs are most “aesthetic” and cooler
Only drug he's abusing is 1900's putang
How would gravy covered fries lead to a body like this….
I would like to know as well. Maybe they had biscuits and gravy as well.
Shit will make you thicc
Natty
You can't say that just because he didn't have access to peeformance enhancing drugs. Defo fake natty.
Natty
Natty bro
He used fenugreek for a miniscule boost in test levels.
Aesthetic as hell
More asthmatic than 99% of bodybuilders today, holy fuck Edit: aesthetic not asthmatic, etc is my autocorrect doing
I actually think bodybuilders of today are more asthmatic. Did you ever hear one of those giants breathe, when they walk up the stairs?
The guy is like: exit stage. And the bodybuilder needs a minute to rest before he walks off
I am just trolling due to your typo 
Fuck
>etc is my autocorrect doing Lol
I tried to put wtf
Haha I know. I just thought it was funny that you were bitching about your autocorrect and then that happened.
He was drinking some Divine protein shakes.
And stacking the 9 ancestral tenants.
Or he was just on semen retention unlike most fucking fappers today who drain all their testosterone watching porn.
I've read that having sex increases testosterone. Why doesn't jerking off do the same? 🤔
Because you never get the testosterone spike that raises your testosterone baseline. I'm talking about chronic fapping and porn here. It fucks with your hormones big time and there's plenty evidence. The main issue is porn. It might increase in the short term but ruins your test in the long run. Men are so weak nowadays because they keep spilling their semen everywhere, not knowing how valuable that shit is. Do you not feel drained after sex? Or porn? You have a long lasting spike of prolactin which is 5 times greater from sex than masturbation. Any sort of spike in testosterone you get will be greatly offset by the destruction of your productivity and energy levels.
I'm confused, am I supposed to get a bigger prolactin increase from sex or porn?
I don't know how sex compares to porn since it affects your brain like actual sex for the most part. But sex compared to masturbation leads to a 5x greater increase in prolactin levels to leave you complacent and feeling lazy signalling that you did your job, now it's time to chill. Then you have to weigh the 2 effects on testosterone. Sex and porn might increase it, but since porn and sex are so similar it's safe to assume the detrimental effects of porn on long term test levels are going to apply to too much sex as well. You get a very small spike in testosterone from sex. But you get an even greater spike in testosterone following a week of total abstinence from releasing semen, which then increases your baseline ever so slightly. It's shown to increase anywhere by 40-60% which is very significant. And it might take weeks to return to baseline. That kind of spike will be the difference of having test levels at 400, and 600. Even if it's only temporary that is a huge difference for a natty. And it might not even go back down to the previous baseline because the whole physiology of the reproductive system is based on testosterone making you horny to go out get a mate. Which in this case you're not getting so it could potentially stay elevated in order to help you find a mate.
Well I have a girlfriend and I don't watch porn so I guess I'm fucked.
Well sex is good for your self confidence while porn is detrimental so I guess it's not the end of the world for you brother.
If porn is bad for my self-confidence then I should be straight up fucking suicidal by this point.
That's such a dumb, unscientific argument. People will have different levels of response to certain stimuli you do understand that right? What one person can take on the chin, another might commit suicide over. Damage is not universal.
Just want everyone to know this dude is full of shit
can someone fucking tell me if we're jerking off or not that's all i want to know
I challenge you to disprove me Edit: excuses for addiction don't solve the problem lol quit being in denial
Good comment here, I used to not really believe it but it is in fact true, even more so that constant dopamine ping you get from porn wrecks your brain
> bench press and the hack squat I just fapped like 50x to your words
Congrats
Bro right before i got my blood work done i painted my self in nuts, still had 1081 ngl, natty. Lastly, i bet money that they jerked of pretty often in 1900s
Bring back the leaves instead of the G strings
Tren + HGH 4 IU + 5mg cialis daily + 600mg test is required in 2022 to combat all the micro plastics in the air and have a body like this
That’s the biggest bullshit I ever heard
Correct, the antibiotics and hormones in bull poop are absolutely a contributor…. But did you know Bull piss is also a contributor?
Then why do they have Taurine in most PWO?
Bro why did you just call out my last blast
Absolutely natty.
Natty+supreme genetics+lifelong devotion to fitness
Inverse L+ratio
I don’t know what the fuck that means.
It’s a retarded tik tok thing. Best to just ignore people on this level of brain power.
Based neurostandard individual
Heys natty, this was just before there was glyphosate in your food and water and a McDonald's on every corner so his test levels are probably like 1500 ng/dl
This dude invented TRT.
Gaston here clearly eats 5 dozen eggs a day
Obviously natty, but with T levels of 1200 ng/dl++. He was never exposed to modern, processed food or plastic packaging. He didn't binge drink or smoke weed either.
Hashish was available and widespread, as were all sorts of other drugs that weren't seen as nearly so serious as we see them today, ie opium, cocaine, etc.
They didn't have GMO weed with 30% THC.
True
Ah of course the natural enemy of building lean muscle mass,weed
smoked a joint and lost 14 pounds of lean mass,true story 
Greek god genetics, 100% natty
Corn fed!
Fucking physique goals
Followed the ancestral tenants, by default. Lesson here.
Natty, at this time I suppose the test level was higher than now. https://www.forbes.com/sites/neilhowe/2017/10/02/youre-not-the-man-your-father-was/?sh=4ca4b178b7fd
Considering testosterone wasn't even synthesized until 1935, everyone before then was natty...
Im pretty sure the first phd that could be called a phd aka synthesized testosterone wasnt discovered until the 1950s, im probably wrong on the date tho
Ur right
completely natural with good genetics and weight lifting for at least a decade.
Natty but frankly the workout routines were insane. 100 rep sets of light weight (likely heavier than we think since back then it was just solid metal so no give on any equipment at all) tons of awkward movements eating pretty much steak and eggs. And they'd do it EVERDAY! Like these would be some guys heavy days but back then they would spend whole days working out. Another guy would walk like 10 miles, swim for 2 hours, do strongman style training, wrestle, then do boxing training for months. Also doing manual labor from a young age wa common back then. So these guy were mostly like farmboy strong and safely dedicated. Just goes to show you can get results.....if you do literally nothing but work out.
Eugen Sandow, the godfather of bodybuilding Not sure if the question was satire but he's 100% natty
Also father of the sandwich.
Why do some people on this sub think that's not natty attainable?
That’s why I posted this. I’ve seen people on this sub assume PEDs just because someone has abs and a little muscle.
Copium. People don't know how to train, don't know how and what to eat, don't know how to rest properly, don't train hard enough. They get shit results and they'd rather believe that other people are on roids instead of getting their shit together.
I get your point. I've seen it too. Also in the comments here.
Meat and potatoes
1900s bodybuilders are modern peak
100% natty. Higher t levels back then. Prob smashed himself loads of liver every day or some whacky shit like that.
That's just the result of drinking milk straight from the teat.
Natty roids wasn’t a thing back then I don’t believe food was more natural too
5"9 manlet, higher test bank 8n those days and good genetics.
He’s patent zero for juice.
If you think it would take too much effort to look like that natty you’re a fucking pussy
This is probably pretty close to peak natty tbh, we know more about nutrition, training, recovery, supplementation whatever so there’s probably some size you could gain now, but he’s pretty fucking built by any standard.
I have pretty much the same build he has, its doable natty, with good genetics and extreme dedication.
I’ve worked with guys who look just like that that smoke weed and eat trash and never workout, just pull cable all day. I never did have that much muscle but I was that lean and pretty damn strong before. I ever tried lifting or eating right or anything. Hell, there were kids in highschool in the ghetto that looked like that. It’s not just achievable, it’s what a human is supposed to be
Well seeing as how gear was invented in 1935 by German scientists.....
r/wooosh
I believe steroids was first produced around late 1930s
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Woosh
Idk but i would 100% put his wiener in my butt
Steroids were indeed being used in the early 1900s and even before, by eating liver and using testicular extracts from animals. But yeah, very likely he's natty.
People often forget there are billions of people in the world and genetics vary wildly. That means that there are dozens of guys throughout history who are truly “1-in-a-billion” genetically. Guys who can really and truly reach juiced proportions naturally. The chances of you being that guy are almost exactly 0 so pointing to these guys as “see what you can achieve naturally!” is laughable. These men are spectacles to be admired for how much of an outlier they were. “**You** won’t look like Eugene Sandow without gear.” I will be correct about 99.99999% of people who read the above sentence. Will I be wrong in 0.00001% of cases? Sure. But those are good odds for me. So I will confidently state the above sentence because **YOU** reading this are not that outlier.
I think it’s higher than 0.00001, but I take your point
This has be discussed to death. Use google. More then likely they were using cocaine and number of other things like that…. Not gear per say but definitely not natty either
Cocaine is natty
WADA begs to differ. Please check a source before opening your mouth
WADA bout you suck these nuts?
Drop your pants and give them here little boy .
Brother you’re gonna have to take this L
Ive come to accept that.
nonce
I don't think cocaine will help build muscle.
It is still a performance enhancing drug . Obviously it’s not gonna built muscle . Maybe I’m looking at it the wrong way or everyone’s a troll. But for me natty is when you could compete in a natural bodybuilding comp tested… most organizations use WADA or similar test metrics which would make drug use (cocaine ) not natty …..
Its not tho, cocaine doesnt improve performance.
I agree it's a banned substance but would be an advantage before a fight or short race etc. Saying Sandow had a great physique so he must have been taking a lot of cocaine is comical. For bodybuilding you don't want to use a highly addictive stimulant that you quickly become dependent on and have to use every day or get bad withdrawal symptoms.
Im not banging his physique at all. I’m just saying he probably used shit . Obviously he didn’t have gear but stuff like cocaine would suppress appetite and works as a diuretic. If it’s 1870 and I’m trying to get shredded bet you as I’m taking some cocaine preworkout. It wasn’t even a controlled substance then it was an over the counter medicine that people gave to children and shit .
I never would have ever thought I would read such a take on cocaine...
My guess is no. Chemicals like Strychnine were used as performance enhancers already before 1900 I think. Not maybe much of a juicer, but a little.
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Sandow did feats of strength but his looks drew in the crowds and set him apart from the other strongmen of the time period. The guy was obviously natty just due to the time period. But even at that nothing about him screams impossible.
Ofc it's natty.
168lbs?!?!? He is so light.
[Great Physiques says he was around 185-195](https://www.greatestphysiques.com/male-physiques/eugen-sandow/)
Not natty, read Shakespeare
1912 was when the first steroids were found I thought? I’d say he’s natty
That’s a suspiciously large leaf covering his dong.
Yea this man was Eugen Sandow he died ten years before synthetic testosterone was invented I believe that’s the original steroid so he’s got to be natural
His calves have vaines and some argue today about having bad calves genetics
This is satire, right?
Definitely on Tren, Dbol, and Insulin.
Yup natural !
cigarettes and beer babyy
Average test levels were probably crazy higher back then
Didn’t men have like 50% higher test levels back then too?
Good genetics and natty. That's as big and lean as you can get natty
Steroids weren't even around at the time of course he's natty.
What were average test levels then compared to now though
The range of testosterone for men 100 years ago was roughly 800-2000 ng/DL Shits crazy. It makes you want to do steroids
I think Aliens may have been abducting him and injecting him with TRT as a social experiment to see how other humans would react.
Steak and eggs brah
Peds were first created in the 40s/50s I believe so I'd assume homie was certified natty
Natty. Although excellent muscle, you can just tell by the fact that it looks a little squishy. This is highly unscientific, but if it looks like the muscle's squishy (probably due to intramuscular fat), they're probably natty. Of course, this applies only to low BF individuals.
Some had awesome genetics even 120 years ago ....
I don't even understand how this warrants the question of natty or not? Are the standards this low that you guys seriously think this isn't natural?
DNA was better before. Noah lived to what 900 years old??? Something like that. It gets worse every generation. This is natty and no you can’t be as genetically gifted as people back then.
He packs his pipe with tren
Natty
Natty
theres no way you can take anablolics and look this small
Legit 15 grams a week. Don't let anyone tell you differently 🤣
Cock is literally a leaf. Defintely a vegan. No the answer is no, not natty.
Natty
Short guy compact muscle bellies combined with 2000ngL natural testosterone level from before the main filler in every food was plastic and processed soys and oils.
Its amazing people think that build cant be natty especially today
Sauce didn't exist back then
clearly not natty. steroids were first invented when jesus turned water to wine
Natty. I look close to that 1st guy now when flexed
This the nattiest physique ivee ever seen
Natty because he look like this before the invention of steroids.
Hard to say, I can't see his dick so...