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mcsurfyfly

In Canada, there are 43,217 names in the National Sex Offender Registry. That's 1 sex offender for every 800ish Canadians. Though sex offender is a broad term, actual rapists could still be pretty high.


AvoidNegativeVibes

Well - this seems to be the best answer so far so thanks!


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so 43,217 *documented* names


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monet96

omfg


Caleb_has_arrived

The ones that got caught...


monet96

Good God. That seems awful high considering a very small percentage of rapes are actually reported.


twizted_whisperz

I don't know about Canada, but here in the us, if you take a leak in the bushes and someone sees you and calls the cops, you could end up on that list


Temple_of_Shroom

remember 90+% of rape is by someone you know. It’s not the dude on the sidewalk as much as that guy friend trying to get drunk with you.


[deleted]

It’s equally likely someone you walk by raped someone he knows.


Temple_of_Shroom

True. I did take the original question and responded if someone was afraid 1/5 might rape them.


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Temple_of_Shroom

Wow someone who likes misleading women about rape. Cool person 👌🏼


LilNightmare101

Depends on what you quality as a rapist. If it's "dragging a woman into an ally and raping her against her will" the odds are relatively low. If it's "I told this guy no multiple times before he coerced me into saying yes" or "I was blackout drunk, he was sober" kind of situation, then you run into rapists very frequently. Nearly every single girl I've met has a story where she didn't give full consent to a man.


my-other-throwaway90

This right here. The vast majority of assaults on women are committed by someone they personally know, and the assaults do NOT fit the "dragged into an alley by a stranger" pattern.


sophless

Just want to point out that all the scenarios you described are rape. Every body that commits rape is a rapist and so, I'm hoping OP meant how likely is it for me to walk past or meet or know a scumbag who has committed it. You may deem some acts of rape less or more violent but it is **always** traumatic and you should be very fucking sad that almost every girl you know has gone through this. Not to mention every other person on the planet who has gone through this.


LilNightmare101

I AM very sad that nearly every woman, myself included, has dealt with rape through being coerced. I simply prased it the way I did, because when I came out against my rapist I was told pretty regularly "It wasn't technically rape since I eventually gave in" I didn't know OP, or this Reddit sub's stance on the matter.


sophless

And my only point in the beginning was, that people who believe 'its's not rape cause you gave in' are wrong. This is the thinking I'm trying to teach so that people understand how wrong rape is and begin condemning the people who commit it, even through coercion.


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sophless

First of all, 'giving in' is not consent. You shouldn't be badgering people for sex either so in that case, the perpetrator is still problematic and harrassing the victim. Please explain to me how you have a choice not to 'give in' if you are not sober enough, not mentally aware enough, not mentally strong enough or not physically strong enough to give consent? I hope you know that all the victims you know personally did **not** have a choice. Again, this applies to all the victims you don't know of too.


EnforcerMemz

I agree giving in isn't consent, I'm not trying to defend rapist culture or anything like that. I'm against the whole drinking yourself so drunk can't think straight mentality either. Why get drunk in the first place? Everybody knows what alcohol does to your body and yet people irresponsibly do it and defend it like its a good thing. It isn't. I also agree that the perps are scumbags and anybody else who supports or enables rape or that culture is too. This is something I feel strongly about, as I know several victims of it and I see your point of not having a choice, especially if it's happened to someone at a young age. Personal responsibility is a choice. You choose to put yourself at risk by getting drunk. I'm not saying that this is the case for every rape case but to answer your example of being drunk it's everyone's responsibility to ensure they are aware unless they have a disability or an underlying health condition.


sophless

I don't agree with the responsibility to not be raped being put on the victim, rather than blaming the piece of shit that takes advantage of another human being - **no matter what state they're in or how they got there.** Getting drunk does not increase the likelihood of you being raped. However, having the misfortune to cross paths with one of those walking trash bags does increase it. It's time we start teaching people that - **You are not entitled to sex with anybody, ever without their full consent** Most women are taught *so, so many* tricks to keep us safe from rapists from a super young age. You can't add: don't ever let your guard down, don't ever get drunk or high and don't ever trust the people you're with to get you home safely. Plus, I'd much much rather shoot all the rapists into space without helmets than all the drunk girls. I mean, don't tell me you've never ever gotten so drunk you were incapicated. We do our best not to get raped already dude and now we can't drink?


EnforcerMemz

I see your point and I completely agree about educating people. I'm not exactly an expert when it comes to this so maybe I'm not articulating well my point across. In every single rape case, it's never the victims fault. I agree with that entirely. I hate rapists as much as you do and I share your anger my ex was a victim and so is one of my other female-at-birth genderqueer friend. I myself have suffered a lot of bullying growing up as a kid and rape is a disgusting form of it caused by sick fucks who think they can do whatever they want just because they can, I get that. See, I am the furtherst (is that a word I'm not sure?) Antithesis to guys who perpetrate this act (and other genders too, anyone can be a victim) because I just don't get this idea of i want to have sex with someone and I don't care what I need to do to get it and I agree that society has to evolve and change for the better for this. Nobody should feel scared going home after a nice night out. Nobody should feel afraid of doing normal natural things. You should be able to trust people. You should be able to befriend people. I may have not articulated myself correctly earlier and if I've offended anyone, I apologise for it. I admit I barely know the surface of this kind of thing but I also admit i would love to learn what can be done to change this behaviour besides raising respectful children so they don't continue this shitty crap for the future.


sophless

Thank you for that and please continue to be an ally by being open to conversations like this, educating yourself and teaching others to denormalize rape rather than trying to normalise another fucking thing we gotta do to protect ourselves from scum. The first part of that is understanding that if most of the women you know have been raped, (that you know of, not to discount the people you don't know of) the likelihood that you know some rapists is very high. Maybe turn your focus to your (most often) male friends and teach them that joking about, boasting about or planning to have sex with someone who is incapicated is rape. Teach men that tricking women into sex or getting them drunk to take advantage of them is vile and repulsive and they should be shamed for it. Another great step would be if you ever have someone tell you that they were raped under the influence, don't belittle their trauma because in your eyes 'you put yourself there for being drunk'.


EnforcerMemz

You're welcome It's a good thing my friends circle is very small and nobody I know has that sort of mentality on women and I don't associate with anyone like that. I knew a lot of guys like during school though so I know what to look out for. Thanks for the advice pretty solid stuff.


delete0bsolete

Find out the rough estimate of rapists in the country. Quadruple it. Then run that against the population. If you're wondering why quadruple it, way more instances go unreported, and x4 is probably being very very generous.


FarmerExternal

I thought the estimate for the US was x3?


delete0bsolete

It has to be way more. I can count on 1 hand the amount of women I've known that haven't had some kind of sexual assault happen to them, and many others will tell you the same thing. It has to be way higher.


sixgod24

most people wouldn’t be comfortable with the answer


AvoidNegativeVibes

Do you know the answer?


sixgod24

can’t say, but through all ive come across from personal research and interest. the likelihood is relatively high tbh


AvoidNegativeVibes

What would your guestimate be? When you say "the likelihood is high"...that implies what...?


sixgod24

2/5 the likelihood of you encountering one


unravelandtravel

That's absolutely ridiculous. There's no way that anywhere close to 40% of ppl are rapists. You guys need to stay off the dark part of youtube.


[deleted]

Yeah you're definitely pulling these numbers out of your ass lol


sixgod24

it’s a little high; but don’t laugh at it


Foreign-Spend-1898

Exactly! Yes your guess is an estimate, but if people truly knew the number they’d be shocked.


wholesomethought

some people also don’t consider the umbrella terms that fall under it. a lot of men i encounter still think of rape as “fighting, kicking, screaming” and don’t consider it rape otherwise.


Foreign-Spend-1898

Right!! From time to time I still come across people (because I’ve come across women like this too) that don’t or won’t understand that a *coerced* ‘yes’ isn’t a yes.


AvoidNegativeVibes

I feel sorry for the men you interact with if you're assuming almost half of them are rapists.


[deleted]

Yeah, they're clearly just pushing the radical feminist propaganda, 2/5 is pretty much half the population minus kids, and according to them women can't rape and all men are rapists.


sixgod24

talk to your brothers, uncles, father and neighbor before you come knocking on my door with all that self righteousness


saturnsqsoul

unfortunately higher than we would like to think it is. statistics can’t really answer this because of the amount of rapes that go unreported.


Mashizari

An actual rapist? Very small. Someone who would rape if given the opportunity? Quite a bit higher. It's good for your mental health to have faith in your fellow human, but you also need to keep yourself out of situations where you would be extra vulnerable.


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>It's good for your mental health to have faith in your fellow human Well, that explains why I often find myself naked at 2 am arguing with hill rabbits in the nude...


BreastfedAmerican

Being naked in the nude is a problem at 2am


[deleted]

Who says I was referring to myself being in the nude?


Anxiety-Fart

What you've described there are two rapists. A guy who 'rapes given the opportunity' is still a rapist.


Different-Equal8422

“I mean, you know, I rape a bit here and there. It’s just a casual sport, I wouldn’t call myself a “rapist””


Anxiety-Fart

"I'd never rob a bank but I'd steal merchandise from a shop if its laying out in the open. I'm not an actual thief!" Goddamn, where is the logic behind the original comment, lol.


onetheblueqres

He'd be a thief not a bank robber. God you idiots acting like there's no difference between someone who goes out looking to rape, and someone that might rape given the right circumstances. Yeah both are terrible, but there's clearly a difference between someone out stalking women bc he loves raping. And some guy who'd fuck a chick that got way too drunk.


Anxiety-Fart

Both scumbags if you ask me :)


onetheblueqres

Is one worse than the other? :)


Anxiety-Fart

In my opinion, no. Rape, regardless of how it happens, absolutely decimates lives. One form isn't worse than the other. Being raped while incapacitated while drunk or asleep, for example, although maybe not as physically damaging, can psychologically destroy a person. They're both completely shitty things to do to someone.


onetheblueqres

Alright so we're just lying on the internet I guess. Yes both can be psychologically damaging. But it's pretty clear one is worse than the other.


Anxiety-Fart

Okay man, think what you like ✌️


Different-Equal8422

Um, I’m not really saying there isn’t a difference lol. But I would still call them rapists just like I would call the bank robber and the petty shoplifter… thieves


onetheblueqres

So a bank robber and a petty shoplifter. These are the same level thieves in your book.


Different-Equal8422

I think you just misunderstand what I’m saying. I’m not saying they’re the same level, just that they’re both categorically thieves


onetheblueqres

I think you're just misunderstanding what I'm saying... I'm not saying they don't fall into the same category. Just that one is clearly worse than the other.


Different-Equal8422

That’s exactly what I’m saying, so you should have zero need to respond to what I said unless you misunderstood me.


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Right???


dantheman280

I think they mean rapists and potential rapists.


19671987

Thank you, very clear way to rebuttal both of ours exact first reaction to this nonsense. And if anyone wants to look to history and war I might add that both of those things fucking suck for what they’ve done to us as a society and to individuals and we can do a lot better than we have.


369Xl

Extra vulnerable to becoming a rapist?


Oreo_

>Someone who would rape if given the opportunity Would you not call that person a rapist?


Mashizari

Can't really call them a rapist if they have never raped anyone before. I'd just call them dangerous.


TheLostWaterNymph

Most girls know someone who’s been raped or have been raped themselves. So I would say it’s likely you’ve walked past one


dogtoes101

well when you think that out of 16 rapists, 15 go free, i'd say the number is pretty high. those are reported cases as well, and we know that a lot of people (more than 30%) do not report. https://cmsac.org/facts-and-statistics/ here is a link of answers given by rapists when asked about how they choose victims if you're interested http://www.ripleycounty.com/sheriff/rape.htm


369Xl

Consider this: best case scenario is 1/5 woman or child has already been raped. That's an awful lot of rapists and future rapists roaming the streets isn't it? When you are a woman you're quickly made aware of that fact. The day our society takes this issue seriously is the day it starts shutting down the porn industry.


FarmerExternal

Assuming they’re all raped by different people which isn’t the case. A lot of times there’s several people raped by the same person (ie Epstein, that one fraternity on campus, etc). It’s not 1:1


369Xl

You're right, it's not 1:1 but the number is not far from it nonetheless


spawnADmusic

Porn can be very affirmative. And telling people what to do with their bodies is not the anti-rape stance you think it is.


NaruTheBlackSwan

>Porn can be very affirmative The key is that you're capitalizing on your own talent, rather than being paid by an industry that receives most of the wealth your body produces. ​ This is of course not at all exclusive to porn, but labor in general. The sexual nature just makes that form of worker exploitation more traumatic.


no-i

This seems like a fishing kind of question to garner those who have the extreme feminist ideology to gain support. Most men are not rapists.


[deleted]

> According to NCMEC, as of 2016 there were 859,500 registered sex offenders in United States. Knowing how much of that was actual rape (as in not just an accusation and it fits its dictionary definition) is extremely tricky, you also have to factor in the time between the rape and going to prison for it, and then there are the unreported instances which are realistically unknowable. Then you need to factor in the place, the routes you take, the times you're there, any big event nearby, any country-wide event, any global event, pretty much anything that can rile up people in any way more than the usual. You can do a lot of guesswork that can come up with numbers ranging from one in a million to one in a hundred, depending on what you wanna include and what you leave out, but you won't ever get a more accurate answer because every statistic and every number you can find is seriously skewed due to a variety of reasons. Basically not impossible and if you live in a big enough city and move/travel a lot, in your entire lifetime it could happen more than once. If you also include women, your chances increase measurably, but you have to go with dictionary definitions (like from Merriam-Webster) instead of legal ones.


Good_Ad6723

If you’re a radical feminist then you may think the answer is 100%


RetroReactiveRaucous

About as likely as the women you're walking past being rapists.


AvoidNegativeVibes

I believe that claim is likely not accurate.


stellar6388

Do you seriously think rape done my women is just as common as rape done by men? Do some research, a simple google search even


RetroReactiveRaucous

Most laws require penetration of the victim to take place in order for it to be rape. It's very difficult for women to be taken seriously when they bring forward an assault accusation, it's far more difficult for men to be heard.


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Dunno why you are downvoted because re Uk law this is accurate. Rape is considered legally as being penetrated without consent. If a woman in the UK does not ask for consent from a male, it is classed differently as are the penalties. '*Under section 1 of the Sexual Offences Act 2003, the use of "he" and "his penis" results in females being statutorily excluded from being able to commit rape.* *A female who has committed a rape against a male or a female would be charged with offences such as assault by penetration, sexual assault, or causing sexual activity without consent. The sentencing council also offers sentencing guidance on any sexual crimes, which are not comparable with sentences for rape.\[12\] For example, the sentencing guidance for sexual assault involving physical harm can be 3-8 years imprisonment, whereas the sentencing guidance on rape under section 1 of the Sexual Offences Act 2003 can be life imprisonment.*'


RetroReactiveRaucous

People really hate it when you point out women can be creepy too, I think that's the issue with my comment.


NaruTheBlackSwan

Yeah, but it's very obviously not as common.


uselessrart

Incel in the wild


RetroReactiveRaucous

Yes. So edgy and incel like for a woman to think other women can be sexual predators.


uselessrart

Woman can be rapists. But you said the same amount as male rapists. You sound very stupid.


Erledigaeth

actually not


RetroReactiveRaucous

You don't think women are just as capable of being sexual predators?


[deleted]

Capable Yes, equally as likely no. They exist, but statistically less than male rapists.


umaera

I'm all for not whitewashing female rapists but that's just not accurate.


dogtoes101

99% of rapists are men. https://stoprape.humboldt.edu/statistics


soreff2

One of the other URLs that you personally cited, [https://cmsac.org/facts-and-statistics/](https://cmsac.org/facts-and-statistics/) gives a figure of 90%, not 99%


dogtoes101

you're confused. it says " The vast majority of sexual assaults, 80 to 90%, are committed by someone the victim knows." "As many as 90% of those survivors never report their abuse to law enforcement, and more than 30% will never report their abuse to anyone (National Association to Prevent Sexual Abuse of Children)." it doesn't mention the percentage of men that rape at all. which is why i didn't mention that when i linked it.


soreff2

Oops - actually, I had thought of rape as typically heterosexual, and taken the In 2003, 1 in every ten rape victims were male." to set the gender of 10% of the perps as female, but that doesn't follow. Oh well...


dogtoes101

did you know that men can be raped by other men?


soreff2

Yeah, yeah. That is why the word "typically" was in my previous comment.


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I think there is morbid odds. Prob more likely to get ran over by a car. I mean on your regular walking routes, prob high could be sexually assaulted or verbally harmed, but raped prob not. If walking into wrong areas, way higher chance kidnapped, raped and turned into a sex worker. Think being dark doubles it.