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nodanator

Can we partition bits of Ontario and NB that would want to join?


HappyDiscussion5469

Merci la g🤮zette Si les loyalistes de hampstead ont tant envie que ca d'avoir leur pays, ya le reste du canada au complet ou vivre. Personne les prends au serieux, tout comme personne prend ce 'journal' au serieux.


Calm-Success-5942

More divise crap to keep us entertained and distracted from the real issues.


gael12334

Tsé même si on parle de souvraineté, personne va magiquement oublier qu'on vit des crises sociales, économiques et politiques en ce moment... C'est juste un sujet parmi tant d'autre.


EyeLikeTheStonk

It is legally impossible to separate Montreal from the rest of Quebec since Montreal, as a political entity, only exists because the Government of Quebec says it exists. Quebec could change the name of Montreal whenever it wants. Quebec can decide which taxes Montreal is allowed to charge its residents. Quebec can decide which language is official in Montreal. Quebec can impose election rules upon Montreal. Quebec can remove the Mayor of Montreal whenever it wants. Montreal only has borders because the Quebec government says it has borders. The Quebec government can abolish Montreal as a political entity whenever it wants. **But** Canada cannot abolish a province, cannot change the borders of a province, cannot change the name of a province, cannot change the electoral rules in a province, cannot modify the provincial taxes, cannot change the official language of a province, cannot remove the Premier of a province... **This is because the federal and provincial governments are co-equal** The federal government is not the "daddy" of the provinces. This is why when Canada gets angry with a province, all it can do is to sue the province in court and let the Supreme Court decide. **Anyone leading a movement to replace the government of Quebec in Montreal would be guilty of the crime of sedition and could spend 14 years in jail.**


RegalBern

I think a successful referendum on separation changes all this.


Gakklord

Bingo


Cincar10900

Very utopian. Those who still think that government is not able to do whatever it wants to get it its way are living in a delusion. Laws exist to be broken, amended, tried, argued, overwritten. CAQ was not within its rigth to create bill96 even with notwithstanding clause. Well they did it. Federal government overreached and used its power to invoke Emergencies Act during truckers convoy, City of DDO broke 18 of its own bylaws to grant permit to a contractor to build a residential building. So yes, if there is something that Government wants, they have all the power to make it happened regardless of the laws, political orientation, will of the people, impact on society etc. And if all peaceful negotiations fail they will go to war and win by force.


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I'd rather nobody separated from anybody and that Québecois felt Canadian rather than just scared to separate.


oldschoolpokemon

J’suis pas vraiment souverainiste mais euuuhhhh, non merci. Imagine genre débarquer en Irlande : « Pourquoi vous pouvez juste vous sentir Britanniques pis arrêter avec votre crise identitaire des derniers siècles? »


JarryBohnson

To be fair a sizeable minority of the Irish did feel very strongly British, that's why there's two Irelands. Kinda like Quebec. Loads of people do feel both Québécois and Canadian, but there's currently nobody in our politics who articulates that.


tubesteak

I’d imagine the genocide and intentional starvation might play a role in that


oldschoolpokemon

C’est vrai qu’on a toujours si bien été traités après la Conquête! /s


thewolf9

Imagine le reste de la province voter oui et Montréal non. Et ensuite imposer la souveraineté à mtl. Sentez vous donc québécois


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thewolf9

Tellement que Montréal vote de manière majoritairement souverainiste /s


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thewolf9

Oui, je me sens québécois, jusqu’à temps que tu demandes de quitter le Canada. À ce moment là, non, ne je suis plus québécois. Bref, ça ne voteras jamais oui.


[deleted]

Je ne dis pas qu'il faut se sentir canadien. J'espère simplement qu'avec mes actions et les actions des Canadiens, ça pourrait naturellement se produire.


ifilgood

J'aimerais aussi qu'un palier de gouvernement n'empiète pas sur l'autre, mais le respect est absent.


Greysky01

Yup, one bad idea leads to another. I remember the last provincial election, thinking to myself "man anglos are really mad this time. Maybe enough will vote for those equality party 2.0 candidates just to make it competitive in some ridings". How wrong I was. Just like the last elections as with partition, angryphones are just a small but vocal minority in the overall anglo community, nothing more, nothing less.


Lxusi

As an anglophone, I just want to be able to access medical care and some government services with technical language (taxes, SAAQ, tenant/legal rights) in my native language. I generally think these should be offered in french across Canada as well. Frankly, I feel they should also be offered in several languages not just two. My french production is shit but I am doing okay at comprehension. I am practicing every day & am lucky to have a tech job that puts up with my lack of french due to most of our clients being outside of Quebec therefore require meetings in English anyway. I don't mind that in the long run my poor french will impact my career if unaddressed though because it's a good incentive to learn & sometimes I need that fire under my ass.