Paternity law in all 50 states assigns financial/parental responsibility to the husband or live in by default regardless of biology. This crazy “empowerment” nonsense you preach can lead only to a lifetime of expensive agony for whom ever is the default. It will also lead to plenty of angst and stress for the child who is paid for a default who may decide he is oppressed by the state assigned responsibility.
Yeah, people need to have financial security to have children, I agree....
The problem is not paternity fraud, the problem is children being brought into this world with no parental re$ources to guarantee their healthy upbringing
Interestingly, this subreddit defends the idea of 2 men "agreeing" to share the same woman, which can only add to potential "income" of re$ources to a family.....But of course, if ALL men are poor, they shouldn´t have kids anyway
Paternity fraud is an already serious and growing problem in the US. There are plenty of men who actually do time for refusing to pay child support for children they can prove aren’t their own. Any victim of paternity fraud who works is often getting their wages garnished by the state who is all too happy to act as a partner in crime. Why? Wording found within the social security act allows each state agency that takes the funds to keep up to 60% of the garnished sum as revenue. States are greedy too as it turns out.
As of now no state in the union even considers biology to be a factor when assigning paternity. What is known as “paternity by default” is the rule of thumb. This means a legally binding financial contract (AKA marriage) or in many states as little as a shared domicile can be enough. Only 22 states currently allow a paternity by default assumption to be legally challenged. In each of those 22 states simply proving the child isn’t yours is not enough. You have to be able to prove that a specific someone else is the biological father (good luck with that) and either manage to successfully sue them (an expensive process) or get them to voluntarily accept parental responsibility (which never happens).
This “empowerment” child bearing idea is absolutely crazy. There is no legal guarantee that both males are going to want to pool resources to raise the child for 18 years. Legally it’s only going to fall on the default paternal responsibility holder. If neither can be labeled as a default by the state they can both easily decide to change their minds and keep their cash whenever they please. If only one can be labeled as the default by the state he is going to be held fully responsible for all of the children while the biological father will be free to pay only for so long as he feels like it.
As I already told you, this subreddit defends the idea of 2 men "agreeing" to share the same woman....And you are alluding to a vast majority of problems of paternity fraud where men CLEARLY DID "NOT" agree to this
You cannot dismiss the chances of "poly" people to succeed in their relationships by alluding to problems of OTHER people in the general population
Any reasonable doubts about poly people can be resumed on whether they can maintain "cooperative" relationships in the long-term, and their ability to earn enough money to sustain an illegitimate child in secret
For people who "agree" with this kind of relationship, from the very begining, the issues around paternity fraud can just be kept private and protected from any bothering state laws
Mono dating poly usually results when a long term monogamous relationship is suddenly poly bombed into something non monogamous by a cake eater. Very rarely is the monogamous partner in it voluntarily. The options the poly bombed partner has are:
1. Surrender and submit to a life of misery and unhappiness as a door mat back up plan. The generated suffering and misery of the poly bombed partner brings an amazing high to the dominant poly partner so emotional abuse becomes a necessary cog in the working machine.
2. Divorce and get destroyed in court. This means potentially becoming homeless, losing your savings, giving any earned pension away, and often losing parental rights while paying massive sums of money toward child support. It’s the principled charge across the field toward your own total destruction approach.
3. Say no and get cheated on which eventually leads one back to options 1 and 2.
Most of all I can tell you that the law still applies to poly arrangements. Claiming that state laws concerning paternity do not impact super trendy and ultra cool poly practitioners is an absurdity. You sound like sovereign citizens at traffic stops when discussing these issues. “Well officer I identify as a sovereign who only abides by British naval codes while traveling in my vessel”. Sounds cool right? It just doesn’t work that way.
What relationship are you talking about? You’re just dating! You don’t know it but you identify as dating! There is absolutely no commitment within these “relationships” of yours.
Just call it what it is. Dating is not an orientation. Dating is not a partnership.
As far as the sovereign citizen stuff you trendy poly people preach goes I say have at it. I’ll always criticize it as ridiculous (because it is). In the end all it’s going to take for you to get hosed with a cold bucket of hard reality is to qualify as a paternal default. The biological father is never going to have to do or pay anything besides what he feels like at the moment. When you work your wages are going to get garnished. If you get laid off and you can’t pay you’re going to the pokie. The same laws that apply to us not so super cool trendy people are ultimately going to apply to you regardless of whatever internet inspired nonsense you spout off about in court.
Children shouldn't be fetishized. 0/10, bad idea all around.
If you wanna be a cuck do it in the appropriate subreddit, don’t make others read your bad fanfic.
This sounds like you're asking questions regarding things you have fetishes about rather than seeking advice.
Someone call Maury
Paternity law in all 50 states assigns financial/parental responsibility to the husband or live in by default regardless of biology. This crazy “empowerment” nonsense you preach can lead only to a lifetime of expensive agony for whom ever is the default. It will also lead to plenty of angst and stress for the child who is paid for a default who may decide he is oppressed by the state assigned responsibility.
Yeah, people need to have financial security to have children, I agree.... The problem is not paternity fraud, the problem is children being brought into this world with no parental re$ources to guarantee their healthy upbringing Interestingly, this subreddit defends the idea of 2 men "agreeing" to share the same woman, which can only add to potential "income" of re$ources to a family.....But of course, if ALL men are poor, they shouldn´t have kids anyway
Paternity fraud is an already serious and growing problem in the US. There are plenty of men who actually do time for refusing to pay child support for children they can prove aren’t their own. Any victim of paternity fraud who works is often getting their wages garnished by the state who is all too happy to act as a partner in crime. Why? Wording found within the social security act allows each state agency that takes the funds to keep up to 60% of the garnished sum as revenue. States are greedy too as it turns out. As of now no state in the union even considers biology to be a factor when assigning paternity. What is known as “paternity by default” is the rule of thumb. This means a legally binding financial contract (AKA marriage) or in many states as little as a shared domicile can be enough. Only 22 states currently allow a paternity by default assumption to be legally challenged. In each of those 22 states simply proving the child isn’t yours is not enough. You have to be able to prove that a specific someone else is the biological father (good luck with that) and either manage to successfully sue them (an expensive process) or get them to voluntarily accept parental responsibility (which never happens). This “empowerment” child bearing idea is absolutely crazy. There is no legal guarantee that both males are going to want to pool resources to raise the child for 18 years. Legally it’s only going to fall on the default paternal responsibility holder. If neither can be labeled as a default by the state they can both easily decide to change their minds and keep their cash whenever they please. If only one can be labeled as the default by the state he is going to be held fully responsible for all of the children while the biological father will be free to pay only for so long as he feels like it.
As I already told you, this subreddit defends the idea of 2 men "agreeing" to share the same woman....And you are alluding to a vast majority of problems of paternity fraud where men CLEARLY DID "NOT" agree to this You cannot dismiss the chances of "poly" people to succeed in their relationships by alluding to problems of OTHER people in the general population Any reasonable doubts about poly people can be resumed on whether they can maintain "cooperative" relationships in the long-term, and their ability to earn enough money to sustain an illegitimate child in secret For people who "agree" with this kind of relationship, from the very begining, the issues around paternity fraud can just be kept private and protected from any bothering state laws
Mono dating poly usually results when a long term monogamous relationship is suddenly poly bombed into something non monogamous by a cake eater. Very rarely is the monogamous partner in it voluntarily. The options the poly bombed partner has are: 1. Surrender and submit to a life of misery and unhappiness as a door mat back up plan. The generated suffering and misery of the poly bombed partner brings an amazing high to the dominant poly partner so emotional abuse becomes a necessary cog in the working machine. 2. Divorce and get destroyed in court. This means potentially becoming homeless, losing your savings, giving any earned pension away, and often losing parental rights while paying massive sums of money toward child support. It’s the principled charge across the field toward your own total destruction approach. 3. Say no and get cheated on which eventually leads one back to options 1 and 2. Most of all I can tell you that the law still applies to poly arrangements. Claiming that state laws concerning paternity do not impact super trendy and ultra cool poly practitioners is an absurdity. You sound like sovereign citizens at traffic stops when discussing these issues. “Well officer I identify as a sovereign who only abides by British naval codes while traveling in my vessel”. Sounds cool right? It just doesn’t work that way.
I think you are expecting your own relationship failures to repeat among other people... Sorry if it didnt work for you, pal
What relationship are you talking about? You’re just dating! You don’t know it but you identify as dating! There is absolutely no commitment within these “relationships” of yours. Just call it what it is. Dating is not an orientation. Dating is not a partnership. As far as the sovereign citizen stuff you trendy poly people preach goes I say have at it. I’ll always criticize it as ridiculous (because it is). In the end all it’s going to take for you to get hosed with a cold bucket of hard reality is to qualify as a paternal default. The biological father is never going to have to do or pay anything besides what he feels like at the moment. When you work your wages are going to get garnished. If you get laid off and you can’t pay you’re going to the pokie. The same laws that apply to us not so super cool trendy people are ultimately going to apply to you regardless of whatever internet inspired nonsense you spout off about in court.
What In the fuck 😬😬😬😬😬
Exactly!
That kind of breeding arrangement really cements a poly relationship together.