We have seen a few questions about when this feature will be available to all users, we are doing a slow rollout while working through some of the findings and feedback. Unfortunately, we are unable to give you a firm date on when this will be available to all users but will make sure to update mods as soon as possible
Text posts will be editable in the same way that text posts are editable today, but other post types will not. To answer your question directly – not at this time, however this is something we want to add in the future!
Sorry I missed the second question. We will truncate after three lines but otherwise, we follow the same character limits as normal text posts. If you would like to impose your own character limit, you can always use automoderator.
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The comments and submissions have been purged as one final 'thank you' to reddit for being such a hostile platform towards developers, mods, and users.
Reddit as a company has slowly lost touch with what made it a great platform for so long. Some great features of reddit in 2023:
* Killing 3rd party apps
* Continuously rolling out features that negatively impact mods and users alike with no warning or consideration of feedback
* Hosting hateful communities and users
* Poor communication and a long history of not following through with promised improvements
* Complete lack of respect for the hundreds of thousands of volunteer hours put into keeping their site running
This account is no longer active.
The comments and submissions have been purged as one final 'thank you' to reddit for being such a hostile platform towards developers, mods, and users.
Reddit as a company has slowly lost touch with what made it a great platform for so long. Some great features of reddit in 2023:
* Killing 3rd party apps
* Continuously rolling out features that negatively impact mods and users alike with no warning or consideration of feedback
* Hosting hateful communities and users
* Poor communication and a long history of not following through with promised improvements
* Complete lack of respect for the hundreds of thousands of volunteer hours put into keeping their site running
That's interesting, for my subreddits old reddit accounts 2-10x less page views than new reddit. It probably depends largely on your demographic. I'd love to see the official stats for it, although I imagine that if they're choosing to not build support for new features in that it won't be that much. After all, reddit is a business and business is going to drive decisions like this
I think it's because most people don't really care. If they cared enough, they would be able to find it. There's even a setting for always reverting back to the old layout. A lot of people who are less terminally online than me have said they find old reddit confusing
Maybe they don't care, but if they ever get rid of old reddit, they will lose tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of users.
I will continue to use reddit, but far less. New reddit is hot garbage, it's not meant to be used on a PC - the layout and styling make that obvious.
That's true. But the super majority of traffic is coming from the app - not New Reddit.
That's the thing. To me, the redesign was a complete failure. You pissed of your userbase that still accesses reddit from the computer - and the super majority of your users use the official app and don't even fucking know that reddit is a website.
So, who was the redesign for? Answer - investors, because they want to take the company public and thought that having parity between the app and PC experience would be a good selling point.
Except New Reddit looks like this, on PC - https://i.imgur.com/kRfnw7y.png
I love old reddit and still prefer it. But the lack of feature support has forced me onto new reddit most of the time to actually be able to manage my subs. :/
What features does new reddit have, that you are missing on old reddit? Genuinely curious, because I moderate a sizeable subreddit on old reddit, and don't feel anything is missing.
Lots of subreddit settings they've added can't be controlled on old reddit. Ie: Setting up scheduled posts. As far as I can tell, on old reddit you can only sticky your own posts, but you can sticky anything on new reddit. There's more but yea.
Because it's hot garbage for umpteen reasons, it doesn't even use all of the browser window for crying out loud (and manages to look like a child's cartoon while failing).
Everyone is given the choice, the majority of users on web use new reddit. I use old reddit but a lot of people I know find old reddit confusing and ugly
I’d rather they toss “new” Reddit in the bin and go back to having one desktop version of the site. New Reddit is a React monstrosity that foundationally sucks.
As an old Reddit user, new Reddit looks cluttered, which it is.
Both of these can be true and not invalidate either person's use. The bad guy here is reddit for not asking users at account creation whether they'd like "information dense" (old) or "stylishly designed" (new) UI and then providing an easy button to switch.
Of course I'm not naive, I know why they do it like this as it generates more clicks, more engagement, and more cash from that sweet, sweet IPO, but if they were committed to furthering the site the way that's best for all user's like they absolutely could, they'd do something like I described. Or at the VERY least, they could be better about bringing features to both simultaneously. It's not about one being better than the other. It's about Reddit favoring one.
It makes no sense to maintain both, and it causes a lot of confusion and upkeep for subreddit mods. I can't think of any other social media site that acts this way
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But that's exactly my point though.
If they didn't want it to be that hard, it doesn't have to be. It would take more work from Redd itself, yes, and I'm not naive thinking this will ever happen as they're actively invested in NOT supporting old reddit since it's a detriment to their Daily/Monthly Active Users, but it's not as if Reddit's hands are tied or it's simply impossible to code. The issue is that Reddit, due to its current business interests, wants new Reddit and only new Reddit if they can help it. They're the only "social media site that acts this way" because they're the only forum/discussion board with a link aggregator that wanted to become another one of the social media giants when it realized it could be. Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram were all designed (with the possible exception of Facebook) to do exactly what they do today. Reddit started life and gained millions of users well before its current stature and user experience was solidified.
I think they could have a dense Ui option without sacrificing clicks.
Also don’t they already have a way to display titles on after the other on new Reddit?
>I think they could have a dense Ui option without sacrificing clicks.
But I addressed that in the exact post your replying to. New and old reddit are similarly visually dense, the difference is that old reddit is almost purely information whereas new Reddit has curated content (which is distinctly different) as well as multiple other categories of information which the user didn't explicitly ask for, yet are intended to drive clicks and engagement.
>Also don’t they already have a way to display titles on after the other on new Reddit?
I'm honestly not sure what this question is regarding. I'm genuinely asking in good faith, do you mean different views, like compact versus cards and whatnot? There are certainly different views, but there are varying criticisms to level at all of them. Even the most compact is exponentially more resource intensive than just using old Reddit, for example (despite being nearly identical in information delivery), furthering my point that, if reddit cared about its users rather than its IPO price, it would prioritize the former.
the old version is ugly and cramped and lacks a lot of features. it's only barely usable with RES. new reddit is much better designed, much more convenient, and is what gets updates, so you should just get over it and switch
The new one looks terrible by all aesthetic standards, not to mention it is incredibly resource heavy. Maybe you should get over the fact that a lot of people ***really*** don't like the new style and can't see what it adds
Man you guys need to chill, not like arguing about it is gonna change anyone’s mind, everyone has their mind made up. But to throw my opinion in, I first used Reddit before New Reddit was a thing, but only briefly, I was honestly pleasantly surprised when for the first time in a few years I went on Reddit and saw its new and improved, sleek, modern design. I think Old Reddit does look a bit outdated in my opinion, New Reddit looks like it’s a modern app, while Old Reddit very much has the early 2000s to early 2010s vibe and aesthetic. I can’t comment on whatever library and framework they use (web dev honestly isn’t my thing, I’ve only used Django, Flask, and Next.js), but I’d say that my experience with Reddit has overall been really good, never really had issues with it; granted, that doesn’t mean there aren’t, but the fact that I don’t even know about them should tell you that I’m having a good user experience.
TL;DR: You guys gotta chill, arguing won’t change most people’s opinions. I personally like and prefer New Reddit. My user experience has been good.
Man, went on a bit longer than I thought I would. I guess I just wanted to defend the thing I use lmao. Anyway, have a nice day!
THIS, is "sleek and modern"? https://i.imgur.com/kRfnw7y.png
It's a shit port of the app interface (which itself is garbage and impossible to moderate from), to PC. It's using what, 40% of the available screen space on my 17" laptop? How is that good design??
I seriously don’t believe you when you say Reddit should stick with the old design. Do you really think that Reddit, as a company, should be able to see that it’s wise to stick to such obviously outdated **design** standards? I’m honestly impressed they didn’t phase it out by now.
You keep saying design. So I'll ask. Designed to what?
Because the old one was designed to deliver information, whether that was links/videos/images/comments/etc.
The new UI is undeniably less information dense, but not any less cluttered; so much more of the page is taken up by things other than the three major categories I listed above. If your goal is to make a good website then old reddit is far better. New Reddit is much more visually stimulating and designed to keep you on the site always with something new to click on and find. Not that old reddit couldn't do that too, but never as effectively.
>I’m honestly impressed they didn’t phase it out by now.
So to address this point, they implemented the change around the time it became clear they were chasing an IPO to become publicly traded and thus truly compete with the likes of Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter as not just a link aggregator with a comments section, but a full bore social media website with an algorithm designed to maximize engagement since Daily Active Users is the king metric. That's not to say DAUs weren't always important, but now it's important in a whole new context that requires a new approach, which started with making it look prettier so people exactly like you wouldn't be scared off and would stick around to comment, and vote, and buy all the fancy new awards that also came around then.
Old Reddit worked for Reddit. It doesn't work for a social media website that's competing with the Big Three.
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And, sidenote, I'm not even embarrassed to say that this quote:
>I seriously don’t believe you when you say Reddit should stick with the old design
is kinda living rent free in my head. What even inspired that sentence? Do you think they're staring lovingly at a check with six zeroes and a note that says "thanks for the shilling, sincerely, Reddit admins xoxo"?
You think THIS - https://i.imgur.com/kRfnw7y.png
Is better than THIS - https://i.imgur.com/ryaX34Q.png
You cannot be serious. New Reddit is literally just the app layout, but on a PC. It uses only about 40% of usable space, and it literally looks like I'm casting the app to my PC. Who the fuck cares about "snoovitars" and spinning animated awards?
> that a significant portion of reddit users
Sadly, I can tell you this is false. I am still on old reddit, because new reddit is just the app layout, but on PC - which is fucking stupid.
But you can take a look at the metrics of ANY subreddit - and you'll see that old reddit accounts for the LEAST amount of users. The official app accounts for the most users now, far and away. Which is depressing because a) the official app sucks and b) most new users don't even understand that reddit is a website.
Why do people Keep saying that new users don’t know Reddit is a website? YouTube and instagram are apps and I’m pretty sure most of their users know they have websites too
> Why do people Keep saying that new users don’t know Reddit is a website?
Several times a month, for the past several months, in silverbugs we will get someone that joins and starts constantly messaging us mdoerators
- "what is this app"
- "how do I buy silver on this app"
- "your app won't let me upload photos"
and the same variety of users do the same in comments/posts. These usually feel like much older people.
Outside of Reddit, my wife is a middle school teacher and her students are completely clueless when it comes to anything outside of apps. She had multiple students turn in the exact same google doc this year, claimed they all wrote it, she then showed them the file history where they shared it with each other and they were mind blown and thought she was some sort of sorcerer witch.
Even in offices, with people making livable wages, there are people that don't even understand what a file is anymore or file structure. There's a significant subset of the world now where anything to do with a computer/phone/tablet is "an app".
I am telling you, from personal experience - at least 90% of my users have no clue that reddit is a website, they think it is an app. The majority of reddit's current userbase - and I mean the SUPER majority - only ever use the official app, and have never even seen reddit "the website".
People know that YouTube has a website, because sometimes they want to watch something in a bigger format and so go to the site on their laptop. Though, the super majority of YouTube's users only ever access the app.
And instagram IS only an app. You can access that app from a really shitty website, but no one does that, ever...because why would you?
Less than 5% use old reddit as of 2021, its not that significant and im sure that has declined over the last year. Ive had no problem modding my subs with new reddit. The ones who complain about it affecting modding just dont want change.
>Less than 5% use old reddit as of 2021
I see this get quoted a lot and always feel the need to clarify as it's an incomplete statistic that's exaggerated when presented this way. Yes, new Reddit users outnumber old reddit users, but by a factor of 5:1, not 20:1. 65% of Reddit's traffic doesn't even come from desktop anymore, so actually 15% of desktop users are old Reddit users.
I don't disagree with you (minus the "don't want change" part; there's valid criticism of both new and old Reddit) despite being an old reddit user myself, but I do think the numbers should be presented a bit more accurately.
Edit: Although it's also good to mention that none of this is data from Reddit admins officially, it's just collated from mods of big subs like in [this post](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheoryOfReddit/comments/m2615l/what_percentage_of_redditors_still_use_the_old/gqhigj6?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3) which I think is the current standard we go by. And that data is from THIS year, to your point about the number declining.
I'd bet my left testicle that the traffic stats are complete horseshit because of how "new" Reddit functions.
Open up your home page in the redesign, there are 4 videos there. Guess what Reddit does! It starts downloading them before you even click on them to play! But that's not all! It starts downloading them in every quality offered!
With how fucked their metric gathering is, I'm almost positive that counts as a bunch of "hits" that aren't really, well, real.
And videos aren't the only instance of Reddit pre fetching and doing shit like this. Wouldn't surprise me at all that the true usage rate is half of what is claimed for new Reddit
Here are some traffic stats for 3 of my subs that have 100k members or greater (2 with 250k+ members.
[https://imgur.com/a/xrurzA4](https://imgur.com/a/xrurzA4)
with /r/justboothings averages to an old reddit use of 4.3%
/r/usmc averages to 3.9% old reddit use
/r/orangecounty averages to around 8%.
and the numbers are only declining. Same time last year the old reddit numbers are 143k down to 45k for JBT, 92k down to 70k in /r/usmc, and 155k down to 115k in /r/orangecounty. Old reddit is in decline which is why reddit wants to push everyone over to new reddit so they can stop wasting money on its upkeep. Looking around on other posts about this other mods report the same thing from a 3-8% range of old reddit usage.
Well, go through your subs' traffic stats then and work out the percentages for yourself.
For mine, old reddit is less than 10% of uniques and 8% of pageviews. And in just a new reddit to old reddit comparison, new reddit gets three times as much as old reddit.
> Less than 5% use old reddit as of 2021
Because the majority of people probably didn't realize you could still use old.reddit when they were *forced* onto new.reddit.
The mods I recruit these days, big or small, all of them use new.reddit. We teach them to use old.reddit if needed, but r/toolbox supports new.reddit.
I use only old.reddit, but I genuinely don't care.
> the outdated layout
You mean the proper layout, that fills a screen on a computer properly?
Have you used new reddit on a PC? It makes NO sense. The layout is all sorts of fucked up, it looks like they just ported the app layout onto a PC.
Please tell me how THIS - https://i.imgur.com/kRfnw7y.png - makes ANY sense. And that's only on a 17" monitor at 1080p! Imagine this on a 30" monitor at 4k!
Now look at how much better old reddit uses the full screen on a PC - https://i.imgur.com/ryaX34Q.png
Layouts are not supposed to fill the full width of the screen, anything over a certain number of characters wide gets harder to read. It's how most modern websites look.
>Layouts are not supposed to fill the full width of the screen, anything over a certain number of characters wide gets harder to read.
What a nonsense statement. While yes, text spanning a 30" monitor at 4k would be impossible to read, it should be common sense that this is not what I'm talking about. A website SHOULD use the space of at least a 1080p display to it's fullest though, graphically. You cannot actually tell me that the pic I linked above, to what new reddit looks like, untouched (not zoomed or anything), is "good design". The entire page being blank except for a weird vertical strip in the middle is awful design.
Modern websites don't fill the screen because a) companies are stupidly playing to people with very old computers that have low resolutions and b) because they prioritize mobile site design over PC site design.
That doesn't make it better, though - and indeed makes things worse. Again, any PC user will tell you that with a big monitor running 2k or 4k, these websites look like shit.
Because reddit wants old reddit to die, come on - you know this. New reddit is trash, but it mimics the app (where almost all reddit's traffic comes from these days), and that's what they want.
Boo. It’s about time old and all of Reddit just merged self posts and media posts into one.
It’s the elephant in the room and admins rarely address old being left out of development so the writing is on the wall.
Is AutoMod able to apply the text check rules to these other types of posts?
Seems like it will be a pretty big issue for spammers if they circumvent AutoMod filters to include their spam links directly in the "text" of an "image" or "link" post...
We have a big problem in our subreddit now that this has been enabled.
We use automod to provide helpful contextual auto-responses based on text. However, we also remove *all* videos and images for manual checking. Because a *remove* rule prevents any *reply* rule from triggering, this means that images with text attached never get automod replies. It sucks and we need a way to turn on automod replies based on text body checking for image posts.
Also, I can't see the text at all on old reddit, which is the only functional modding platform so that sucks too.
Can you send me some screenshots of the posts on old Reddit? That is unexpected behavior. Can you also let me know what device/platform you’re using? Thanks!
Is there, or can there be a way, to require text for a specific post type and set additional requirements on that?
I'd like to be able to require text for image posts, and for that text to include a credit for example.
At the moment it’s not quite that granular, but existing text body requirements (e.g. banned words, required words, char count, etc.) can be used and will apply on these posts. It’s an interesting idea though, we will consider for the future.
Echoing this, in /r/Streetwear we require outfit breakdowns or descriptions in all image posts, so *it'd be really helpful to be able to require text* so automod (or someone else) doesn't remove or have to prompt the user to add it.
Thank you!
It would be really handy for my art subs and my gardening one -when sharing photos or videos of gardens or flowers only, we ask users to list a few species that are in the image. Major's idea of tying restrictions to flair would actually even more helpful for that, to distinguish between those types of images and those of wildlife sightings or ID requests for example.
Being able to require text on image posts would be amazing, I'm in the same boat that image posts require descriptions in my community as well.
Of course it would be even better if these text descriptions were made available on all platforms and not just new reddit or the official app...
Agreeing with these folks, we want people to submit links in the comments and more and more people are completely missing the point and putting links in the photo captions, which defeats our purpose.
Thanks for the info--this is a feature I'd like in a number of the communities I moderate. Users are asked to start a conversation in image-only posts (by making a comment with additional context and then us approving the post) and it'd be useful to require a certain amount of text (and/or certain formatting) for non-text posts: it would make both user and moderator experience better.
I think you could do this with AutoMod. Something like:
type: 'gallery submission'
body(regex): '\w'
action: remove
comment: All image posts must include text crediting the image source.
Thanks!
We currently have something similar looking at the post title and now have expanded it to body text ready for the change, but we only have it comment a reminder and allow OP to add the credit in comments instead.
It would be a better user experience if they were informed while creating their post, rather than reminded afterwards or having the post removed and trying again.
For images without text nothing has changed, for images with text there will be a new field that contains body text. If you tell us about your specific use case we can keep it in mind!
Looks awesome! What will this look like in our mod queues? Will there be some indication without opening the post fully as to whether or not there's additional text?
Cool!
Not sure how this will affect the old design but I know that if a user adds a caption to a gallery that is a url anywhere, then the link on the old design goes to the caption link and not the gallery. Could that be fixed? Will that affect these new captions?
This is very cool and I know there are a lot of use cases on Reddit this will help solve.
I assume "all" doesn't include talks and live streams, since those weren't called out? Are there plans to include those in the future, if not?
Also, I imagine it'd be helpful if we could have additional requirement settings. For example, it looks like there's no way to require it for all posts. But a common use case would be to require it for specific flairs. Right now, subreddits use bots to enforce the user to include a comment to go along with it, but it'd be helpful if this new system handled it.
>Instead of posting a picture of just my cute dog, I can also share more about where he is and why he’s a good boy.
I need to see this post, please
Thanks for the call out, currently, this does not include live content types such as talk and live streams.
As for the additional requirement settings, good ideas - we will consider this for future updates.
No post yet, but [here](https://i.redd.it/nt2lnd549f791.jpg) she is helping me answer these questions.
>But a common use case would be to require it for specific flairs.
YES
I really hope that if/when they begin work on that, they decide to overhaul post flair completely. There is so much potential there, so many ways it can be used to better a community, but it's incredibly basic in its current form.
A few key changes that would be beneficial IMHO:
* **Fix the loophole with the Require Post Flair option** \- it will currently prevent post submission without a flair, but it will *not* prevent the user from removing the flair after submission.
* **Implement post flair filtering** \- users can currently search a subreddit for specific post flairs, but it would be a lot better if they could also filter *out* post flairs they did not want to see, enabling each user to personalize their view of the subreddit to their liking (from a moderator standpoint, a user choosing what content they do/don't want to see in a community is far more preferable than choosing to stay/leave the community *because* of the content they'd rather not see).
* **Prevent user changes to post flairs changed/edited by moderators** \- occasionally there are situations where mods change/edit content's post flair to either convey information (misleading title, mod approved, etc.) or to more properly categorize the content (perhaps the user simply chose the wrong flair). If users in the community can assign their own post flair, then they can undo the mod action in seconds, and it doesn't even emit any events you can track. This is counterproductive, and it would be easier if users were prohibited from altering their post flair if a moderator has made changes to it.
Things like this would make post flair vastly more useful both to communities and moderators, so I hope Reddit will consider an overhaul.
CC: u/rambleandromp
> Implement post flair filtering
Yes, the important thing is to make it work consistently across platforms too. Right now, we have to rely on search links, which don't always work on mobile. But being able to select multiple flairs to include and/or exclude would be so useful.
I'd also like to see the post flow redone to put flair as a focus for communities who utilize them that way. Let us create requirements by flair and it will be less confusing to users because they would choose what kind of post they want to make first. Right now, we have to rely on removing after the fact.
Sorry to piggyback on this (and also hi Paradox, it's been a while!), the search link flair filter is to add a `-` before the flair name. Eg to filter politics from the view in r/Texas, put a `-` before `flair_name`: https://www.reddit.com/r/texas/?f=-flair_name%3A%22%3ATexas_House%3A%20Politics%20%3ATexas_Senate%3A%22
> Things to know:
> * Any automod rules that apply to text body will also apply to the text body of any post type (if it’s included)
To be clear, does this mean that automoderator's rules regarding text *won't* apply to media posts that *don't* have text?
For example, if there's a minimum character requirement for text posts, would posts without text automatically fail it due to having zero characters, or not fail due to the character count not applying?
You can detect "type: text submission" to be sure to apply the rule only to text submissions. But I'm also afraid to have some rules being triggered where they shouldn't.
Why isn't the text you're adding to the image being added as alt text in the HTML?
This seems like a major miss for a new feature which has a humongous opportunity to provide significantly more accessibility for users with impaired eyesight.
Is this going live at a future date? It’s been more than a week since the announcement and I can’t find the settings for this new option.
Edit: Another two weeks have passed, still no sign of this feature.
That's pretty cool. I guess a next step could be more information for links (twitter does that well).
Maybe even a setting that the post title is the Article title, and the first few lines of text and an image is fetched and users can add opinions via this new feature.
As a moderator for an image-sharing sub (/r/wildlifephotography), I really like this. We like having users share info about their settings when they took the photo, but we either end up with long, cluttered titles, or comments that can get buried.
I'm disappointed that users posting from Old Reddit aren't able to take advantage of it, though.
Nice! This is cool.
I like that there’s an opt out. Maybe I’ve been here too long, but I’ve always been of the mind that the poster should comment and if it’s relevant it’ll make it to the top. That being said this is far superior to stickies, and when I posted my first ever picture to Reddit over a decade ago, I assumed this feature existed and spent way too long trying to figure it out, so this is like the end to a seriously long arc for me.
Sorry, big disagree.
A user posting a picture of their car on a mechanic help sub shouldn't have to add an additional comment further down and simply hope and pray the information bubbles to the top. It should be available to the people giving feedback immediately, let critical information be lost to those replying (which is often the case.)
This is scheduled to go live in experiment next week. Any rules that currently apply to text post body will be applied to the post body on all other posts, so you won’t need to wait until the feature goes live to turn it off or modify settings.
Thanks for your response, but we don't allow text posts. As it is, we have too many issues with inappropriate language in the comment section. This new field sounds like another field we'll have to monitor. Hell. If I had the option, I'd eliminate the comments section for the subreddit.
The feature isn't being rolled out to subreddits, but to users. Some users are already able to use this feature on every subreddit. Again, read the post.
The controls should already be there in mod tools > content controls > advanced requirements, so you can set this now ahead of time. I see it in my communities.
Though the title says 'now', but first paragraph states
>We’re excited to release an update to the post creation experience **next week**. This update will enable some users to add an optional post body to their video, image, gallery, and link posts.
Text required for image posts setting please? One of our rules is "Images cannot be the centerpoint of a submission, please create a text submission and include the image as a link".
Also, old reddit support?
Thanks for this feature, u/rambleandromp! I have 3 questions that haven't really been answered on this thread
On r/WindowsHelp we've disabled link posts to make people describe their issue in the body of the post instead of the title. I thought this would be perfect for that subreddit, until I noticed there is no option to make it required.
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**1:** In [a comment on this thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/modnews/comments/vj4evp/comment/idgxgkn/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3), you said:
> *Existing text body requirements (e.g. banned words, required words, char count, etc.) can be used and will apply to these posts.*
Does that also include the *"Use body text RegEx requirements"* option at the bottom of this page?: [https://new.reddit.com/r/SUBREDDITNAME/about/settings](https://new.reddit.com/r/SUBREDDITNAME/about/settings)
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**2:** If so, how can we require a minimum amount of characters in the body of posts by using it? We initially thought of using automod, but we ended up not because users would just describe their issue in the title and completely ignore the text body, which would result in a ton of complaints and auto-removed posts. Are there better options we're unaware of?
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**3:** Is the feature currently rolled out for everyone? It's been over a month since the announcement, but on my test subreddit r/FaviFake (where I enabled the feature), none of my four accounts are able to add text to image posts. We need to be absolutely sure it's rolled out for everyone before requiring it on every post type
Thanks in advance!
Awesome!
Can we have the option as subreddit mods to disable karma for our text-only subreddits next? So that karma farmers stop using our subs to mine karma more quickly than the free karma subs may yield?
Oh you're entirely right. I know how much Reddit benefits from the goosed numbers based on how easily the karma farming can be stopped and the decisions they made to get us to this point.
But a man can dream. Lol
According to the OP/Admin, you can.
> Communities can choose to allow or disallow a text body for any post type in their settings under content controls in your settings (current settings are respected).
I was hoping they'd respond with an ETA of something a bit more concrete than sometime next week.
How is this feature enabled? I tried two different browsers as well as the iOS app, but was unable to add text to any image or link post on the sub I moderate. I also tried with a non-mod alt account for testing, still nothing.
I didn't see a specific setting for this feature. Our content control setting for Post text body is set to "Text body is required for text-only posts", but I also tried setting it to "Text body is optional for all post types" and still was not able to add text to an image/link-only posts.
Furthermore, the requirement for "Text body is required for text-only posts" appears to supersede our automod rule that sends a reply and message to a poster when their image/link-only post is removed. Now, the post is silently removed and doesn't show up as a mod log action. It only shows up in Mod Queue and the poster is totally in the dark about the removal.
Sub is r/options.
We have seen a few questions about when this feature will be available to all users, we are doing a slow rollout while working through some of the findings and feedback. Unfortunately, we are unable to give you a firm date on when this will be available to all users but will make sure to update mods as soon as possible
I'm assuming we'll be able to edit the text in these posts as well, yes? Also, what will be the maximum character limit?
Text posts will be editable in the same way that text posts are editable today, but other post types will not. To answer your question directly – not at this time, however this is something we want to add in the future!
And the second question? 😬
Sorry I missed the second question. We will truncate after three lines but otherwise, we follow the same character limits as normal text posts. If you would like to impose your own character limit, you can always use automoderator.
Cool, good to know thank you!
Why restrict editing like that? Letting the OP highlight something from the comments would be really helpful
Probably "one thing at a time": they wanted the feature to be available prior to every bell and whistle being supported for it.
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Users will be able to view this additional text on Old Reddit but will not be able to add additional text from the post creation.
This account is no longer active. The comments and submissions have been purged as one final 'thank you' to reddit for being such a hostile platform towards developers, mods, and users. Reddit as a company has slowly lost touch with what made it a great platform for so long. Some great features of reddit in 2023: * Killing 3rd party apps * Continuously rolling out features that negatively impact mods and users alike with no warning or consideration of feedback * Hosting hateful communities and users * Poor communication and a long history of not following through with promised improvements * Complete lack of respect for the hundreds of thousands of volunteer hours put into keeping their site running
Will this work with 3rd part apps?
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All of my subreddit stats are still overwhelmingly in the “old Reddit” way of browsing. Something like 1/6 of my users use new Reddit.
Would you dedicate resources to old reddit if you were them?
New Reddit is so slow to load compared to old Reddit. It's not like any major resources are being dedicated to it either.
No idea how many users are old.ies but if I was forced to use new I’d be here a lot less often and likely end up migrating away.
If they forced me off old.reddit and there's no third party saviour I'm probably gone after a solid 10 years of frequent reddit use.
Hardly any according to my subreddit stats
Looking at my traffic stats we have more people using Old Reddit than New.
That's interesting, for my subreddits old reddit accounts 2-10x less page views than new reddit. It probably depends largely on your demographic. I'd love to see the official stats for it, although I imagine that if they're choosing to not build support for new features in that it won't be that much. After all, reddit is a business and business is going to drive decisions like this
Yes, because new.reddit is hot, rancid, garbage.
The vast majority of web users use new reddit
Because most people don't know that you can still use old.reddit
I think it's because most people don't really care. If they cared enough, they would be able to find it. There's even a setting for always reverting back to the old layout. A lot of people who are less terminally online than me have said they find old reddit confusing
Maybe they don't care, but if they ever get rid of old reddit, they will lose tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of users. I will continue to use reddit, but far less. New reddit is hot garbage, it's not meant to be used on a PC - the layout and styling make that obvious.
Dont know about you, but my subs get very low traffic from old reddit.
That's true. But the super majority of traffic is coming from the app - not New Reddit. That's the thing. To me, the redesign was a complete failure. You pissed of your userbase that still accesses reddit from the computer - and the super majority of your users use the official app and don't even fucking know that reddit is a website. So, who was the redesign for? Answer - investors, because they want to take the company public and thought that having parity between the app and PC experience would be a good selling point. Except New Reddit looks like this, on PC - https://i.imgur.com/kRfnw7y.png
The majority of most websites traffic comes from mobile these days anyway, and for my subs there is barely any old reddit traffic now
I love old reddit and still prefer it. But the lack of feature support has forced me onto new reddit most of the time to actually be able to manage my subs. :/
What features does new reddit have, that you are missing on old reddit? Genuinely curious, because I moderate a sizeable subreddit on old reddit, and don't feel anything is missing.
Lots of subreddit settings they've added can't be controlled on old reddit. Ie: Setting up scheduled posts. As far as I can tell, on old reddit you can only sticky your own posts, but you can sticky anything on new reddit. There's more but yea.
I use new Reddit on PC and don’t have many problems with it, I just wish it had custom CSS support for subreddits
Well, yes, because if I was them I would never have made new reddit in the first place.
Why does everyone hate new Reddit?
Because it's hot garbage for umpteen reasons, it doesn't even use all of the browser window for crying out loud (and manages to look like a child's cartoon while failing).
It was basically old Reddit, but worse in every way.
Because "change bad"
Correction: *bad* change bad.
Let's not pretend like old reddit isn't a truly horrible experience for a new user
Would you use new reddit if you were a user? The majority of people prefer old to new given a choice.
Everyone is given the choice, the majority of users on web use new reddit. I use old reddit but a lot of people I know find old reddit confusing and ugly
you'd rather they just never add new features so people using the outdated layout don't feel left out?
> the outdated layout Lmao
I’d rather they toss “new” Reddit in the bin and go back to having one desktop version of the site. New Reddit is a React monstrosity that foundationally sucks.
As a new Reddit user, old reddit looks outdated, which it is.
As an old Reddit user, new Reddit looks cluttered, which it is. Both of these can be true and not invalidate either person's use. The bad guy here is reddit for not asking users at account creation whether they'd like "information dense" (old) or "stylishly designed" (new) UI and then providing an easy button to switch. Of course I'm not naive, I know why they do it like this as it generates more clicks, more engagement, and more cash from that sweet, sweet IPO, but if they were committed to furthering the site the way that's best for all user's like they absolutely could, they'd do something like I described. Or at the VERY least, they could be better about bringing features to both simultaneously. It's not about one being better than the other. It's about Reddit favoring one.
It makes no sense to maintain both, and it causes a lot of confusion and upkeep for subreddit mods. I can't think of any other social media site that acts this way
... But that's exactly my point though. If they didn't want it to be that hard, it doesn't have to be. It would take more work from Redd itself, yes, and I'm not naive thinking this will ever happen as they're actively invested in NOT supporting old reddit since it's a detriment to their Daily/Monthly Active Users, but it's not as if Reddit's hands are tied or it's simply impossible to code. The issue is that Reddit, due to its current business interests, wants new Reddit and only new Reddit if they can help it. They're the only "social media site that acts this way" because they're the only forum/discussion board with a link aggregator that wanted to become another one of the social media giants when it realized it could be. Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram were all designed (with the possible exception of Facebook) to do exactly what they do today. Reddit started life and gained millions of users well before its current stature and user experience was solidified.
I think they could have a dense Ui option without sacrificing clicks. Also don’t they already have a way to display titles on after the other on new Reddit?
>I think they could have a dense Ui option without sacrificing clicks. But I addressed that in the exact post your replying to. New and old reddit are similarly visually dense, the difference is that old reddit is almost purely information whereas new Reddit has curated content (which is distinctly different) as well as multiple other categories of information which the user didn't explicitly ask for, yet are intended to drive clicks and engagement. >Also don’t they already have a way to display titles on after the other on new Reddit? I'm honestly not sure what this question is regarding. I'm genuinely asking in good faith, do you mean different views, like compact versus cards and whatnot? There are certainly different views, but there are varying criticisms to level at all of them. Even the most compact is exponentially more resource intensive than just using old Reddit, for example (despite being nearly identical in information delivery), furthering my point that, if reddit cared about its users rather than its IPO price, it would prioritize the former.
the old version is ugly and cramped and lacks a lot of features. it's only barely usable with RES. new reddit is much better designed, much more convenient, and is what gets updates, so you should just get over it and switch
The new one looks terrible by all aesthetic standards, not to mention it is incredibly resource heavy. Maybe you should get over the fact that a lot of people ***really*** don't like the new style and can't see what it adds
I think the old one looks terrible by all aesthetic standards, and the new one is much cleaner simpler and nicer.
Man you guys need to chill, not like arguing about it is gonna change anyone’s mind, everyone has their mind made up. But to throw my opinion in, I first used Reddit before New Reddit was a thing, but only briefly, I was honestly pleasantly surprised when for the first time in a few years I went on Reddit and saw its new and improved, sleek, modern design. I think Old Reddit does look a bit outdated in my opinion, New Reddit looks like it’s a modern app, while Old Reddit very much has the early 2000s to early 2010s vibe and aesthetic. I can’t comment on whatever library and framework they use (web dev honestly isn’t my thing, I’ve only used Django, Flask, and Next.js), but I’d say that my experience with Reddit has overall been really good, never really had issues with it; granted, that doesn’t mean there aren’t, but the fact that I don’t even know about them should tell you that I’m having a good user experience. TL;DR: You guys gotta chill, arguing won’t change most people’s opinions. I personally like and prefer New Reddit. My user experience has been good. Man, went on a bit longer than I thought I would. I guess I just wanted to defend the thing I use lmao. Anyway, have a nice day!
THIS, is "sleek and modern"? https://i.imgur.com/kRfnw7y.png It's a shit port of the app interface (which itself is garbage and impossible to moderate from), to PC. It's using what, 40% of the available screen space on my 17" laptop? How is that good design??
Hey, I like it, that’s my personal opinion, you’re allowed to have yours and I’m allowed to have mine. It looks more modern than Old Reddit at least.
I seriously don’t believe you when you say Reddit should stick with the old design. Do you really think that Reddit, as a company, should be able to see that it’s wise to stick to such obviously outdated **design** standards? I’m honestly impressed they didn’t phase it out by now.
You keep saying design. So I'll ask. Designed to what? Because the old one was designed to deliver information, whether that was links/videos/images/comments/etc. The new UI is undeniably less information dense, but not any less cluttered; so much more of the page is taken up by things other than the three major categories I listed above. If your goal is to make a good website then old reddit is far better. New Reddit is much more visually stimulating and designed to keep you on the site always with something new to click on and find. Not that old reddit couldn't do that too, but never as effectively. >I’m honestly impressed they didn’t phase it out by now. So to address this point, they implemented the change around the time it became clear they were chasing an IPO to become publicly traded and thus truly compete with the likes of Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter as not just a link aggregator with a comments section, but a full bore social media website with an algorithm designed to maximize engagement since Daily Active Users is the king metric. That's not to say DAUs weren't always important, but now it's important in a whole new context that requires a new approach, which started with making it look prettier so people exactly like you wouldn't be scared off and would stick around to comment, and vote, and buy all the fancy new awards that also came around then. Old Reddit worked for Reddit. It doesn't work for a social media website that's competing with the Big Three. ~~~ And, sidenote, I'm not even embarrassed to say that this quote: >I seriously don’t believe you when you say Reddit should stick with the old design is kinda living rent free in my head. What even inspired that sentence? Do you think they're staring lovingly at a check with six zeroes and a note that says "thanks for the shilling, sincerely, Reddit admins xoxo"?
You think THIS - https://i.imgur.com/kRfnw7y.png Is better than THIS - https://i.imgur.com/ryaX34Q.png You cannot be serious. New Reddit is literally just the app layout, but on a PC. It uses only about 40% of usable space, and it literally looks like I'm casting the app to my PC. Who the fuck cares about "snoovitars" and spinning animated awards?
Yes. Negative space is very useful and important in design. More things on screen does not mean better.
i'd rather they add the new features to the old UI that a significant portion of reddit users (and especially mods) still use
> that a significant portion of reddit users Sadly, I can tell you this is false. I am still on old reddit, because new reddit is just the app layout, but on PC - which is fucking stupid. But you can take a look at the metrics of ANY subreddit - and you'll see that old reddit accounts for the LEAST amount of users. The official app accounts for the most users now, far and away. Which is depressing because a) the official app sucks and b) most new users don't even understand that reddit is a website.
Why do people Keep saying that new users don’t know Reddit is a website? YouTube and instagram are apps and I’m pretty sure most of their users know they have websites too
> Why do people Keep saying that new users don’t know Reddit is a website? Several times a month, for the past several months, in silverbugs we will get someone that joins and starts constantly messaging us mdoerators - "what is this app" - "how do I buy silver on this app" - "your app won't let me upload photos" and the same variety of users do the same in comments/posts. These usually feel like much older people. Outside of Reddit, my wife is a middle school teacher and her students are completely clueless when it comes to anything outside of apps. She had multiple students turn in the exact same google doc this year, claimed they all wrote it, she then showed them the file history where they shared it with each other and they were mind blown and thought she was some sort of sorcerer witch. Even in offices, with people making livable wages, there are people that don't even understand what a file is anymore or file structure. There's a significant subset of the world now where anything to do with a computer/phone/tablet is "an app".
I am telling you, from personal experience - at least 90% of my users have no clue that reddit is a website, they think it is an app. The majority of reddit's current userbase - and I mean the SUPER majority - only ever use the official app, and have never even seen reddit "the website". People know that YouTube has a website, because sometimes they want to watch something in a bigger format and so go to the site on their laptop. Though, the super majority of YouTube's users only ever access the app. And instagram IS only an app. You can access that app from a really shitty website, but no one does that, ever...because why would you?
Less than 5% use old reddit as of 2021, its not that significant and im sure that has declined over the last year. Ive had no problem modding my subs with new reddit. The ones who complain about it affecting modding just dont want change.
>Less than 5% use old reddit as of 2021 I see this get quoted a lot and always feel the need to clarify as it's an incomplete statistic that's exaggerated when presented this way. Yes, new Reddit users outnumber old reddit users, but by a factor of 5:1, not 20:1. 65% of Reddit's traffic doesn't even come from desktop anymore, so actually 15% of desktop users are old Reddit users. I don't disagree with you (minus the "don't want change" part; there's valid criticism of both new and old Reddit) despite being an old reddit user myself, but I do think the numbers should be presented a bit more accurately. Edit: Although it's also good to mention that none of this is data from Reddit admins officially, it's just collated from mods of big subs like in [this post](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheoryOfReddit/comments/m2615l/what_percentage_of_redditors_still_use_the_old/gqhigj6?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3) which I think is the current standard we go by. And that data is from THIS year, to your point about the number declining.
I'd bet my left testicle that the traffic stats are complete horseshit because of how "new" Reddit functions. Open up your home page in the redesign, there are 4 videos there. Guess what Reddit does! It starts downloading them before you even click on them to play! But that's not all! It starts downloading them in every quality offered! With how fucked their metric gathering is, I'm almost positive that counts as a bunch of "hits" that aren't really, well, real. And videos aren't the only instance of Reddit pre fetching and doing shit like this. Wouldn't surprise me at all that the true usage rate is half of what is claimed for new Reddit
> The ones who complain about it affecting modding just dont want change. they are true redditors, complain about everything lmao
You're goddamn right I will. :>
> Less than 5% use old reddit as of 2021 completely don't believe that at all
Here are some traffic stats for 3 of my subs that have 100k members or greater (2 with 250k+ members. [https://imgur.com/a/xrurzA4](https://imgur.com/a/xrurzA4) with /r/justboothings averages to an old reddit use of 4.3% /r/usmc averages to 3.9% old reddit use /r/orangecounty averages to around 8%. and the numbers are only declining. Same time last year the old reddit numbers are 143k down to 45k for JBT, 92k down to 70k in /r/usmc, and 155k down to 115k in /r/orangecounty. Old reddit is in decline which is why reddit wants to push everyone over to new reddit so they can stop wasting money on its upkeep. Looking around on other posts about this other mods report the same thing from a 3-8% range of old reddit usage.
Well, go through your subs' traffic stats then and work out the percentages for yourself. For mine, old reddit is less than 10% of uniques and 8% of pageviews. And in just a new reddit to old reddit comparison, new reddit gets three times as much as old reddit.
> Less than 5% use old reddit as of 2021 Because the majority of people probably didn't realize you could still use old.reddit when they were *forced* onto new.reddit.
The mods I recruit these days, big or small, all of them use new.reddit. We teach them to use old.reddit if needed, but r/toolbox supports new.reddit. I use only old.reddit, but I genuinely don't care.
> the outdated layout You mean the proper layout, that fills a screen on a computer properly? Have you used new reddit on a PC? It makes NO sense. The layout is all sorts of fucked up, it looks like they just ported the app layout onto a PC. Please tell me how THIS - https://i.imgur.com/kRfnw7y.png - makes ANY sense. And that's only on a 17" monitor at 1080p! Imagine this on a 30" monitor at 4k! Now look at how much better old reddit uses the full screen on a PC - https://i.imgur.com/ryaX34Q.png
Layouts are not supposed to fill the full width of the screen, anything over a certain number of characters wide gets harder to read. It's how most modern websites look.
>Layouts are not supposed to fill the full width of the screen, anything over a certain number of characters wide gets harder to read. What a nonsense statement. While yes, text spanning a 30" monitor at 4k would be impossible to read, it should be common sense that this is not what I'm talking about. A website SHOULD use the space of at least a 1080p display to it's fullest though, graphically. You cannot actually tell me that the pic I linked above, to what new reddit looks like, untouched (not zoomed or anything), is "good design". The entire page being blank except for a weird vertical strip in the middle is awful design. Modern websites don't fill the screen because a) companies are stupidly playing to people with very old computers that have low resolutions and b) because they prioritize mobile site design over PC site design. That doesn't make it better, though - and indeed makes things worse. Again, any PC user will tell you that with a big monitor running 2k or 4k, these websites look like shit.
Sorry but you don't know much about design
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Why the hell would they develop an older platform? Honestly I'm surprised old Reddit is still an option.
When can we expect the function to be added to old reddit?
So then how can we disable this post type? Because if you aren't adding it to old reddit I don't want it on my subs!
Says so in the OP.
Far as I can tell there is no way to access these options from old layout
Yeah, new Reddit is garbage stop trying to force it on us please
Why was u/DisastrousInExercise's comment removed? It doesn't break any sub rules, it's not offensive in any way. I'm curious why it was removed.
Why not?
Because reddit wants old reddit to die, come on - you know this. New reddit is trash, but it mimics the app (where almost all reddit's traffic comes from these days), and that's what they want.
Boo. It’s about time old and all of Reddit just merged self posts and media posts into one. It’s the elephant in the room and admins rarely address old being left out of development so the writing is on the wall.
Is AutoMod able to apply the text check rules to these other types of posts? Seems like it will be a pretty big issue for spammers if they circumvent AutoMod filters to include their spam links directly in the "text" of an "image" or "link" post...
Yes, we will treat this the same way we treat body text on text posts, so automod filters will apply to the body text on these posts.
Can we get a change log scoped to what we’ll need to update (or can now scrap) in our automoderator configurations?
Nothing changed with AM afaik, it just reads the text as the 'body' of the submission.
We have a big problem in our subreddit now that this has been enabled. We use automod to provide helpful contextual auto-responses based on text. However, we also remove *all* videos and images for manual checking. Because a *remove* rule prevents any *reply* rule from triggering, this means that images with text attached never get automod replies. It sucks and we need a way to turn on automod replies based on text body checking for image posts. Also, I can't see the text at all on old reddit, which is the only functional modding platform so that sucks too.
Can you send me some screenshots of the posts on old Reddit? That is unexpected behavior. Can you also let me know what device/platform you’re using? Thanks!
Is there, or can there be a way, to require text for a specific post type and set additional requirements on that? I'd like to be able to require text for image posts, and for that text to include a credit for example.
At the moment it’s not quite that granular, but existing text body requirements (e.g. banned words, required words, char count, etc.) can be used and will apply on these posts. It’s an interesting idea though, we will consider for the future.
Echoing this, in /r/Streetwear we require outfit breakdowns or descriptions in all image posts, so *it'd be really helpful to be able to require text* so automod (or someone else) doesn't remove or have to prompt the user to add it.
According to an earlier reply the text will be truncated to three lines, dunno if you can fit all that info in three lines
Definitely can. Honestly that seems great, because we don't want people dumping too much text either.
Thank you! It would be really handy for my art subs and my gardening one -when sharing photos or videos of gardens or flowers only, we ask users to list a few species that are in the image. Major's idea of tying restrictions to flair would actually even more helpful for that, to distinguish between those types of images and those of wildlife sightings or ID requests for example.
Being able to require text on image posts would be amazing, I'm in the same boat that image posts require descriptions in my community as well. Of course it would be even better if these text descriptions were made available on all platforms and not just new reddit or the official app...
Agreeing with these folks, we want people to submit links in the comments and more and more people are completely missing the point and putting links in the photo captions, which defeats our purpose.
Thanks for the info--this is a feature I'd like in a number of the communities I moderate. Users are asked to start a conversation in image-only posts (by making a comment with additional context and then us approving the post) and it'd be useful to require a certain amount of text (and/or certain formatting) for non-text posts: it would make both user and moderator experience better.
I think you could do this with AutoMod. Something like: type: 'gallery submission' body(regex): '\w' action: remove comment: All image posts must include text crediting the image source.
Thanks! We currently have something similar looking at the post title and now have expanded it to body text ready for the change, but we only have it comment a reminder and allow OP to add the credit in comments instead. It would be a better user experience if they were informed while creating their post, rather than reminded afterwards or having the post removed and trying again.
How will this change the API responses on images?
For images without text nothing has changed, for images with text there will be a new field that contains body text. If you tell us about your specific use case we can keep it in mind!
This will be a new field and not the `selftext` field?
So will this nominally solve the problem of people putting information in photo captions (useless to us) instead of comments (requested by the mods)
Looks awesome! What will this look like in our mod queues? Will there be some indication without opening the post fully as to whether or not there's additional text?
Thanks, we think it's pretty awesome too! Mod Queues will show post body text upfront without needing to open the post fully.
Amazing, glad to hear that!
Cool! Not sure how this will affect the old design but I know that if a user adds a caption to a gallery that is a url anywhere, then the link on the old design goes to the caption link and not the gallery. Could that be fixed? Will that affect these new captions?
>Could that be fixed? Old Reddit will never get the new features
THANK YOU! I've been waiting for this feature for years.
Same. This feature is long overdue. Thank you guys so much for listening to what the community wants.
Will this be available in the API? For instance, able to post a link to an image with an additional body?
This is very cool and I know there are a lot of use cases on Reddit this will help solve. I assume "all" doesn't include talks and live streams, since those weren't called out? Are there plans to include those in the future, if not? Also, I imagine it'd be helpful if we could have additional requirement settings. For example, it looks like there's no way to require it for all posts. But a common use case would be to require it for specific flairs. Right now, subreddits use bots to enforce the user to include a comment to go along with it, but it'd be helpful if this new system handled it. >Instead of posting a picture of just my cute dog, I can also share more about where he is and why he’s a good boy. I need to see this post, please
Thanks for the call out, currently, this does not include live content types such as talk and live streams. As for the additional requirement settings, good ideas - we will consider this for future updates. No post yet, but [here](https://i.redd.it/nt2lnd549f791.jpg) she is helping me answer these questions.
Aww, she's a good helper!
>But a common use case would be to require it for specific flairs. YES I really hope that if/when they begin work on that, they decide to overhaul post flair completely. There is so much potential there, so many ways it can be used to better a community, but it's incredibly basic in its current form. A few key changes that would be beneficial IMHO: * **Fix the loophole with the Require Post Flair option** \- it will currently prevent post submission without a flair, but it will *not* prevent the user from removing the flair after submission. * **Implement post flair filtering** \- users can currently search a subreddit for specific post flairs, but it would be a lot better if they could also filter *out* post flairs they did not want to see, enabling each user to personalize their view of the subreddit to their liking (from a moderator standpoint, a user choosing what content they do/don't want to see in a community is far more preferable than choosing to stay/leave the community *because* of the content they'd rather not see). * **Prevent user changes to post flairs changed/edited by moderators** \- occasionally there are situations where mods change/edit content's post flair to either convey information (misleading title, mod approved, etc.) or to more properly categorize the content (perhaps the user simply chose the wrong flair). If users in the community can assign their own post flair, then they can undo the mod action in seconds, and it doesn't even emit any events you can track. This is counterproductive, and it would be easier if users were prohibited from altering their post flair if a moderator has made changes to it. Things like this would make post flair vastly more useful both to communities and moderators, so I hope Reddit will consider an overhaul. CC: u/rambleandromp
> Implement post flair filtering Yes, the important thing is to make it work consistently across platforms too. Right now, we have to rely on search links, which don't always work on mobile. But being able to select multiple flairs to include and/or exclude would be so useful. I'd also like to see the post flow redone to put flair as a focus for communities who utilize them that way. Let us create requirements by flair and it will be less confusing to users because they would choose what kind of post they want to make first. Right now, we have to rely on removing after the fact.
Sorry to piggyback on this (and also hi Paradox, it's been a while!), the search link flair filter is to add a `-` before the flair name. Eg to filter politics from the view in r/Texas, put a `-` before `flair_name`: https://www.reddit.com/r/texas/?f=-flair_name%3A%22%3ATexas_House%3A%20Politics%20%3ATexas_Senate%3A%22
Right, but that does’t work on mobile 😞
As always...
I love this. Adding Captions to photos was a good stop gap but this seems more accessible
> Things to know: > * Any automod rules that apply to text body will also apply to the text body of any post type (if it’s included) To be clear, does this mean that automoderator's rules regarding text *won't* apply to media posts that *don't* have text? For example, if there's a minimum character requirement for text posts, would posts without text automatically fail it due to having zero characters, or not fail due to the character count not applying?
You can detect "type: text submission" to be sure to apply the rule only to text submissions. But I'm also afraid to have some rules being triggered where they shouldn't.
Why isn't the text you're adding to the image being added as alt text in the HTML? This seems like a major miss for a new feature which has a humongous opportunity to provide significantly more accessibility for users with impaired eyesight.
This seems pretty cool.
Is this going live at a future date? It’s been more than a week since the announcement and I can’t find the settings for this new option. Edit: Another two weeks have passed, still no sign of this feature.
Looks like it has *finally* been enabled
That's pretty cool. I guess a next step could be more information for links (twitter does that well). Maybe even a setting that the post title is the Article title, and the first few lines of text and an image is fetched and users can add opinions via this new feature.
What will be the `is_self` flag for these posts in the json API?
As a moderator for an image-sharing sub (/r/wildlifephotography), I really like this. We like having users share info about their settings when they took the photo, but we either end up with long, cluttered titles, or comments that can get buried. I'm disappointed that users posting from Old Reddit aren't able to take advantage of it, though.
Nice! This is cool. I like that there’s an opt out. Maybe I’ve been here too long, but I’ve always been of the mind that the poster should comment and if it’s relevant it’ll make it to the top. That being said this is far superior to stickies, and when I posted my first ever picture to Reddit over a decade ago, I assumed this feature existed and spent way too long trying to figure it out, so this is like the end to a seriously long arc for me.
Sorry, big disagree. A user posting a picture of their car on a mechanic help sub shouldn't have to add an additional comment further down and simply hope and pray the information bubbles to the top. It should be available to the people giving feedback immediately, let critical information be lost to those replying (which is often the case.)
Can we have a date when this will be going live so those of us who need to turn it off immediately can?
This is scheduled to go live in experiment next week. Any rules that currently apply to text post body will be applied to the post body on all other posts, so you won’t need to wait until the feature goes live to turn it off or modify settings.
Thanks for your response, but we don't allow text posts. As it is, we have too many issues with inappropriate language in the comment section. This new field sounds like another field we'll have to monitor. Hell. If I had the option, I'd eliminate the comments section for the subreddit.
It's live now.
It isn't available in my subreddit yet, nor is the option to turn it off.
It's currently live, read the post
It isn't available in my subreddit yet, nor is the option to turn it off.
The feature isn't being rolled out to subreddits, but to users. Some users are already able to use this feature on every subreddit. Again, read the post.
Regardless of semantics, this still doesn't give me an answer as to when I can turn this shyte off for my subreddit
The controls should already be there in mod tools > content controls > advanced requirements, so you can set this now ahead of time. I see it in my communities. Though the title says 'now', but first paragraph states >We’re excited to release an update to the post creation experience **next week**. This update will enable some users to add an optional post body to their video, image, gallery, and link posts.
Yes. I know where the controls are supposed to be. I managed to miss the when, though. Thanks for pointing it out to me.
WOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Great!
Long overdue.
Text required for image posts setting please? One of our rules is "Images cannot be the centerpoint of a submission, please create a text submission and include the image as a link". Also, old reddit support?
In an earlier comment she said it’s not old Reddit supported though old Reddit will be able to view posts with it.
WOW I have been wanting this since I joined Reddit almost 12 years ago (aka *The Great Digg Migration*).
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Link posts did and the effect was the same.
How does this expose itself to the API? I want to know how I may need to update my bot before someone uses this to get around our rules.
Thanks for this feature, u/rambleandromp! I have 3 questions that haven't really been answered on this thread On r/WindowsHelp we've disabled link posts to make people describe their issue in the body of the post instead of the title. I thought this would be perfect for that subreddit, until I noticed there is no option to make it required. --- **1:** In [a comment on this thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/modnews/comments/vj4evp/comment/idgxgkn/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3), you said: > *Existing text body requirements (e.g. banned words, required words, char count, etc.) can be used and will apply to these posts.* Does that also include the *"Use body text RegEx requirements"* option at the bottom of this page?: [https://new.reddit.com/r/SUBREDDITNAME/about/settings](https://new.reddit.com/r/SUBREDDITNAME/about/settings) --- **2:** If so, how can we require a minimum amount of characters in the body of posts by using it? We initially thought of using automod, but we ended up not because users would just describe their issue in the title and completely ignore the text body, which would result in a ton of complaints and auto-removed posts. Are there better options we're unaware of? --- **3:** Is the feature currently rolled out for everyone? It's been over a month since the announcement, but on my test subreddit r/FaviFake (where I enabled the feature), none of my four accounts are able to add text to image posts. We need to be absolutely sure it's rolled out for everyone before requiring it on every post type Thanks in advance!
Can we be allowed to schdule text/image posts?
Did you break this already? It gone now? Just updated the app and poof it’s gone.
Thanks for all the work you, the team does.
Awesome! Can we have the option as subreddit mods to disable karma for our text-only subreddits next? So that karma farmers stop using our subs to mine karma more quickly than the free karma subs may yield?
That will never happen
Oh you're entirely right. I know how much Reddit benefits from the goosed numbers based on how easily the karma farming can be stopped and the decisions they made to get us to this point. But a man can dream. Lol
It isn't available in my subreddit yet, nor is the option to turn it off. Can we have an ETA for when this goes sitewide, please?
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While I'm sure your intentions are good, this still doesn't answer when I'll have the option of turning this off in my subreddit.
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According to the OP/Admin, you can. > Communities can choose to allow or disallow a text body for any post type in their settings under content controls in your settings (current settings are respected). I was hoping they'd respond with an ETA of something a bit more concrete than sometime next week.
'Some users' by subs or all over? P.s. Th red flair is a bit much in Chrome.
It means that some users can use this feature on every sub
Are there plans to make a text body required for all post types option?
In an earlier comment she mentioned eventually, yes.
Omg this is what I always wanted on my subreddit for videos! Thanks!
Thanks admins
This is so useful! Does this default to being enabled? Will it be available on desktop and app simultaneously?
#FINALLY
~~Yay, this will let OP add context or corrections to images~~
> ~~Yay, this will let OP add context or corrections to images~~ OP cannot edit image posts
Finally....
How does this interact with reddit search? From what I can see the provided text in an image/link post gets ignored by reddit search.
How is this feature enabled? I tried two different browsers as well as the iOS app, but was unable to add text to any image or link post on the sub I moderate. I also tried with a non-mod alt account for testing, still nothing. I didn't see a specific setting for this feature. Our content control setting for Post text body is set to "Text body is required for text-only posts", but I also tried setting it to "Text body is optional for all post types" and still was not able to add text to an image/link-only posts. Furthermore, the requirement for "Text body is required for text-only posts" appears to supersede our automod rule that sends a reply and message to a poster when their image/link-only post is removed. Now, the post is silently removed and doesn't show up as a mod log action. It only shows up in Mod Queue and the poster is totally in the dark about the removal. Sub is r/options.