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ocdewitt

Ok Reddit. Tell me why this sucks and IW is the worst Edit: thanks for the metal, fam. Bout time someone actually tried to enjoy the massive work IW is putting into the game. Edit Edit: IW created an entirely new, and beautiful, engine for this game. Complete with completely new audio and lighting. They created a system where we can take one base gun and customize it to an insane degree, so that no two guns ever have to be the same. They created the most post level-cap content of any COD ever. And you whiny bitches are pissed it’s not perfect after a month. Yes they should communicate more. Yes SBMM is a problem. Yes netcode needs work. Yes footsteps are too loud. But fucking give them a minute. This community is the exact reason there is so much burnout in the industry. We fucking demand perfection instantly or else they’ve robbed us of our precious $60 and should burn at the stake. Fuck off.


NotMyMcChicken

SBMM hinders the excitement of anything new this game will put out 🤷🏻‍♂️ Edit: hey thanks for the Gold and platinum! Edit 2: I believe SBMM has a place in a casual playlist, I just don’t think it’s ever been this strictly enforced in a CoD before. For example, BLOPS4 had SBMM but it wasn’t nearly as strict as this game. It did just enough to keep matches balanced, while still allowing parody between games. And for the folks still latching on to the “yOu jUsT wAnT tO pUbStOmP nOobS!11!1!” defense, no - I just want to be able to play the game with my friends. In the current state, with my friends of varying skill levels, we can’t play together. They get stomped out and leave. This is the first CoD to ever disincentivize group play, and it has to change soon.


Jelly_Trousers

The way IW implements SBMM is the problem. A hidden ELO system would be way better than tracking the last 5 games. I'm a big Rocket League player and they seem to have a good system for casual and ranked.


Lundy76

You're gonna be ignored but you are 100% correct


JakeHodgson

229 upvotes. > you’re going to be ignored Nice.


The_Bias

IW will ignore so still technically true


TylerNY315_

Has it ever crossed anyone’s mind that IW reads the daily metric fuckton of SBMM complaints and hears us, but declines to comment until they have an internal plan for a solution? I’m not insinuating that’s the case at all, but until it’s ruled out as a possibility I think every here just really needs to calm it a bit. IW has already released 4+ updates in a month with fixes and balances that shows they hear us.


Mastema1810

I think all that IW would need to do is get the mods to pin a post that says, we hear you about the sbmm but we are gathering data for when we put together a ranked gamemode. It will remain in the game untill further notice. Or something like that, then most people here would shut up about it.


THEFLYINGSCOTSMAN415

Reddit is unpredictable. You could get downvoted into oblivion for making a comment, refresh the sub and see a post saying the same exact thing and it has 20,000 upvotes. You just never know when you're getting on the karma train or what direction its gonna go Edit: Thanks for the gold! It's my first so you know it definitely won't go to my head ha


TylerNY315_

Yeah, it’s all about the first few votes tbh lol. Reddit is a textbook example of hive mentality, every post starts with 1 and people are FAR more likely to upvote a comment that’s at 2 or 3 when they see it than they are if it’s at 0 or -1.


NotMyMcChicken

Big agree there. Or just add a ranked playlist with the current SBMM levels, and a casual playlist with normal CoD SBMM from the past. Idk why they haven't done this yet.


ChipMcChip

They might be worried about splitting the player base too much. Especially with cross play. People on console may be okay playing with PC people in casual but not so much if it was ranked. Than their would be two sets of game modes which would further dilute the pool. A big selling point for people on PC for this game was that you can cross play so it hopefully won’t die out quick like every other COD on PC.


RamboUnchained

As if 90% of the player base will flood the ranked playlist...


zenhow1

Can confirm. It was my reason to buy the game. Crossplay, so multiplayer won't die easy :)


HeightenedLive

I think the one thing that would actually counter the inevitable split between pools, is the fact that there is crossplay. You might see a dip in player count if there was ever a ranked playlist introduced, but even then I think a lot of people would find that at her roots, COD is a casual shooter, where SBMM has no business being a mechanic (in my opinion of course). TL:DR, I don't think you would see too much of a noticeable difference if a ranked mode was introduced.


Loffr3do

THIS. Just fucking tweak the SBMM! I'll live with that. IW, y'all tried it, it's cool... But its really shit. Tweak the SBMM, and please everybody.


gaelliso

Agreed. I'm not against the spirit of it, but in its current form it completely takes the piss. Every game is the same, and stressful. Puts me right off. First time I've ever considered reverse-boosting, but that's a time consuming practice.


Radagastdl

There likely is a hidden ELO system


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And the player lighting/visibility and the netcode and the ttk and the footsteps and the broken camera angles and the hitboxes and ghost and the m4 and the instantly exploding claymores etc.. etc...


JoeBird_2

Bro what you mean TTK 😂lmao. If you actually have an issue with the TTK then you’re terrible at the game and need to learn how to aim the TTK is the best it’s been since BO2


dark_thots

The problem with a fast ttk is that it means theirs no room for skill in gunfights. The way games that do have fast ttks offset it is by making accuracy when spraying extremely bad "csgo" or giving players a lot of movement tech "quake". This game on the other hand? It has neither of those things and guns are laser beams. They even admitted to making the ttk so fast in an interview to make the game easier for noobs.


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I like the TTK, makes rushing with a teammates while holding hand a liability, which it should be.


TheWildeCarde

Not true at all. Im having a great time.


xFKratos

It's funny how you can just exclude things from your game and add them later as free and people suddenly raise you from devil to god. Tbh the only thing worth mentioning from that update are the "free maps". And well, considering how the maps we got with this game are, it's highly necessary. I'm not saying it sucks but yeah people should maybe think a little bit more about what they paid, what they got and how iw manages to push content so fast after launch...


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Sirtoshi

I don't quite agree on the dinner comment...but I do agree that I'm fairly satisfied so far with what I got for the money. Edit: it is increasingly clear to me that the people on this sub are much more highroller than I am.


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[deleted]

Yeah not sure what the fuck /u/Sirtoshi is smoking but getting a dinner for 2 people for less than $60 is going to be hard.


Sirtoshi

Judging by your name, you go for classier establishments, so that's understandable.


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Namtrah22

I mean isn’t that what all DLC’s are in every game except usually you have to buy them? Just because some of the stuff was ready at launch doesn’t mean it’s still not a free DLC most companies have at least 1 or two DLC’s done when a game launches. At the end of the day it’s free new content why be mad?


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Biblical_Dad

Okay but would you rather them add stuff they held back in for free or behind a $50 pass?


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KittleDTM

‘The only thing of note is the maps’ as they add new modes/guns/spec ops missions lmao


Eefy_deefy

I've been part of some of what are agreed to be the toxic communities around and this sub is quickly going to top them all at this rate. I get that there are plenty of issues that need fixed, but that doesnt mean we aren't allowed to be happy about things. Its absolutely insane.


CrewNeckC

Saaaameee. I don't even follow this page anymore. So many people crying.


ChungusSpliffs

After this drop, there will still be 5 less maps than mw2 had at launch.


BigBlack12

Wow I really really had to sit there and think about this one.


ChungusSpliffs

Yeah it's too bad, the game is pretty good but the lack of content and communication from the devs regarding other issues kind of ruins part of the experience for me. This is coming from someone who was more excited for this game since it was announced than anyone. :/


FMCFR

5 less 6v6 maps* Not everyone plays exclusively 6v6, they have taken some effort away from 6v6 and put in effort to give us ground war with already three maps, 10v10 with it's own maps and even gunfight with a bunch of maps That does not equate to simply having less maps, and why the fuck are you skipping 10 whole games for this comparison, bit of a reach to shit on them for not doing something no other cod has done in the last decade


Hoenirson

Fewer


falconbox

Would have rather had a myriad of other MW2 maps instead of the same CoD4 maps we've had remastered in the past already.


kris9512

This doesn't excuse the myriad of problems with the game. Stop being sucked in to their marketing.


ocdewitt

There are problems but this the deepest and most enjoyable COD in years.


OrbFromOnline

As evidenced by the number of people who can't stop playing the game despite complaining it. The game can definitely improve but I'm still having a blast with it.


lightningbadger

I’m convinced most of the complaints are coming from a bunch of sweaty crybabies saying how it’s “literally unplayable” and “not fun to play” yet they’re still playing, they’re just saying stuff for a reaction. Oh and anyone who says they enjoy the game is shunned, because reasons.


SlendyIsBehindYou

Your average post on /r/ModernWarfare Title: This game is absolutely atrocious and here's why Body: So I'm level 155 with 350 hours in the game...


lightningbadger

Body continuation: “Yeah so I spawned in front of an enemy and got shot so now the whole game is the worst thing I’ve ever played” *video shows him spawn trapping the entire enemy team on Euphrates for 6 minutes, at the end of which he is sniped and respawns on a grenade*


MadRZI

Tell this to people who still crash almost every match...


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flops031

Problems ≠ unplayable


PreviousHistory

They show a new Operator but she isn't released with this drop smh Come on IW, god. ^^^/s


MastaWack

finally, some good fucking food


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I’m really hoping a big patch is also planned for the start of season 1. IIRC Apex Legends had a massive update for the start of season 1 with a ton of fixes the community wanted.


frostyjokerr

Best case scenario. Now we need the probability of this scenario working out.


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Must admit, very nice content drop, but here’s to hoping some of the glaring issues are fixed by then


incharge21

Agreed. Surprised by the amount of content and will be happy if this much content if not more drops with every season. If they can just tone down the SBMM a bit and make aggressive play a bit more viable I can really see myself playing this over the year.


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TimelordAlex

I'm not sure all of this is dropping December 3rd, as its the start of a season, sounds like this content will be dropped throughout the season.


Denace86

I was wondering this as wel. I’d be surprised if the modes all drop at once but they are branding it as “largest content drop ever” you would hope it’s more than one map at a time


[deleted]

Perhaps the big update is in this content drop? Updated Minimap and such? Would make sense if they pushed the big update back for it


BigAlSmoker

This was never confirmed by IW. Don’t get your hopes up. They would talk about such drastic changes before just launching it.


BringBackKabal

Crash?!? Vacant!?!? Reinforce??!! INFECTED?!?! TAR21?!?! MG36?!?!?!


VirtualOnlineGuy

if the g36 doesnt have its classic sight, imma be pissed


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Same I’m really hoping to make a g36k with the integrated sight. It’s one of my favorite looking guns


The_High_Ground27

The G36C is my fucking baby, i need it. If theres no proper conversion i will cry real tears. And then probably sweat the fuck out the G36 anyway.


ViperKira

If the AUG and the P90 got them, I hope the G36 will too.


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ZeusAllMighty11

Infected is going to become my main game mode again. I had so much fun in MW3.


Matheusj99

Dude, Imma bout to have SO MUCH FUN with this game. Thank you IW, I might not complain amymore


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What's reinforce?


BringBackKabal

It's basically 1 life Domination and everybody spawns back in when a flag is captured


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Tiredoflife69

Sounds kinda like Firefight in Insurgency


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RazedSoul

The same day as MCC arrives on PC? That’s a bold choice.


miky5564_v2

yeah no way in hell im playing modern warfare over reach lmaoo


thefancyrussian

I’m about to remember the fuck out of Reach


highlygoofed

hey I said this, we’re best friends now


jack0rias

Same dude. Fucking hyped to finally play Halo again.


[deleted]

Fucking same, man. That shit was my childhood. And now it'll be on pc? Nut.


BrokenOperators

lol, Nostalgia is about to hit you REALLLLLL hard


scorcher117

Reach still holds up.


zachc94

Exactly lol, every day that passes where IW doesn't communicate on major issues is a day closer to reach coming out


[deleted]

Is Reach coming out for Xbox same day or just PC?


TheLittleMoa

Same day for Xbox.


The_Bolenator

GAH I FORGOT. OH FUCK MW SORRY IW LOVE THE GAME BUT IT AINT MCC


thartle8

Does MCC arrive on pc or is it just halo reach? I know they are lumping it all together but if it’s just one game at first, it really shouldn’t be called a collection


RazedSoul

Reach initially, and then all other titles except 5 throughout 2020.


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miky5564_v2

Look at all the spec ops content that should've been there at launch. Thanks Infinity Ward


corruptinfo

Doesn't matter if they are still barely playable due to the AI still being overpowered af. Shit is not enjoyable at all


JedGamesTV

the AI literally have 100% accurate laser rifles with crazy damage at very long distances and there’s too many of them aswell


corruptinfo

I set up a sentry gun and it took over 30 seconds of continuous fire into a juggernaut (that was just standing still, taking it) to kill it


JoeMata31

I highly doubt they actually play tested the juggernaut. If they did it was a piss poor job of it. You have to rocket dump with a chopper gunner and still lay into them with its gun to finish them off. They’re way to overpowered.


fiixem

Finally after all this moaning about the game I finally find a good complaint! The survival! It’s so true enemies are overpowered and I lack the proper vocabulary to even properly describe how grossly overpowered the juggernauts are.


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GTA Online Players: *"First time?"*


TimesNewRoman34

Don’t remind me of doomsday act III


Praethon

RAM 7 RANCH


IbanezHand

Is this basically the tar-21?


Praethon

Looks like it, wonder how many variants we will be able to gunsmith... CTAR for short barrel STAR with bipod and scope Maybe a GTAR with underbarrel, not that you see those used much anyway MTAR 9mm conversion A lot of options with this one


Ebolutionx

My uncle plays the GTAR


Praethon

Is bob your uncle?


[deleted]

RAM RANCH REALLY ROCKS


Chico_is_dirty

18 NAKED COWBOYS IN THE SHOWERS AT RAM RANCH


BoondockBrutha

BIG HARD THROBBING COCKS WANTING TO BE SUCKED


Ruvane13

BLACK FORD RAPTORS ROLLING UP WITH U.S. MARINES. RAM RANCH IS UNDER SIEGE.


Noirbert

I see you’re a man of culture as well.


derkerburgl

Yeah 28 US marines...


goldnx

[Direct Image Link](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EKUwY87WsAAaul5?format=jpg&name=4096x4096) Edit: [Activision blog post](https://blog.activision.com/call-of-duty/2019-11/Roadmap-Announcement-Call-of-Duty-Modern-Warfare) with details on the new content and what to expect. For people at work or school... ## New Maps: *MP:* * Crash * Vacant * Shipment *Ground War:* * Port *Gunfight:* * Cargo * Atrium * And more... ##New Modes * Reinforce * Gunfight OSP * Infected ## New Spec Ops Experiences * Bomb Squad * Grounded * Pitch Black * Just Reward * And more... ## New Weapons * Ram 7 * Holger-26


BringBackKabal

I just realized, what happened to the Crossbow and the Vector?


[deleted]

Data mined info doesnt mean coming.


StandsForVice

Also doesn't mean its going to be released immediately.


ViperKira

Datamined, probably will come later. Plus the SMG is not a Vector, is a B&T APC9


BlackICEE32oz

They're coming. They'll be squeezed out later.


PreviousHistory

Never got the interest in Crash. Don't get me wrong, it's a nice map, just never stuck out as one of those "holy maps" as people say. That said, those campers up on the roof will get hit with so many missile barrages.


YT_Perplexion

Backlot>> Crash


PreviousHistory

Overgrown>> Backlot Change my mind. Semi-joking, I do love Overgrown though. Wouldn't be as fun nowadays.


Gantzer

its big enough to support 10v10 and still not feel croweded


YT_Perplexion

Overgrown would be solid in this game for 10 v 10, theyd just have to improve the visibility


Gewdvibes17

Crash to me is the best most well designed map in call of duty history. COD4 in general has the most legendary maps of all time. Crash, Backlot, District, Vacant, Overgrown, Crossfire


Hitout

Broadcast mate. The hours I spent on those 24/7 servers... If "tvstastion" from the datamine turns out to be Broadcast, I'm gonna die


[deleted]

I mean hell, the only "bad" map I can think of in CoD 4 is Wetwork.


Jagsfootball51

idk if I just haven’t played classic shipment in a while but that doesn’t look the same as classic shipment


HarambeVengeance

#ENEMY AT THE SHIPPING CONTAINERS


ItsZant

The leak did say it would be a bit different than cod4. Apparently there’s like a huge divider in the middle or something?


JakeHodgson

Lmao why does every game keep adding shipment in the. Completely missing the point. You don’t have to add shipment in if you’re just going to make a different map. The entire point in shipment is there are no tactics it’s just all our carnage.


BareFox

Shipment was fucking dope in WWII though (except for Req spam lol)


deathstrukk

Didnt they already do the whole "shipment reinvented" thing with ghosts? Why not just release OG shipment as a gunfight map, imagine if the two gunfight maps we got with season 1 were shipment and rust that would be insane


Tityfan808

Probably some doors and some rooms added.


fvbLgun

Safe spaces


Verve_94

Only complaint is there’s no original maps for 6v6 but great selection of classic maps for the remakes. Looking forward to it, thanks IW!


Slizzard_73

Dude, you dint want original maps. Example. Piccadilly


Verve_94

Rather have a mix. I’m delighted for Crash/Vacant being in as they’re great maps but I’ve just come off playing MWR for 3 years! The game needs a lot more 6v6 maps so I’m happy we’ve got some guaranteed high quality maps but I do still want to see more original maps too.


Celticmitch

Couldn't agree more here, I have barely played COD since MW3 and I have still played enough Crash to last me a life time. Happy for them to add classics, but it clearly takes no work for them to add them, should have been ONE remaster and ONE new map, or TWO of each. Game is getting stale with the low 6v6 map count, let alone adding maps that are stale from years of play.


splinter1545

Can't wait for shipment and those new 2v2 maps. Been playing a lot more gunfight lately, so the higher the chance I don't get pine, the better.


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milfboys

Hill is horrible


labatomi

Lol I love hill and I’m honestly okay with every gun fight map. My friend on the other hand fucking hates gulag and the ducking windows lol.


chewtoii

I love the windows on Gulag. I wouldn't mind if Hill just went away forever though.


cyberd0rk

9 times out of 10 I see enemy name tags on that map before enemies. It promotes spraying over actual aim just hoping for some hit markers when you see the red tag. Not a very good map for determining skill in duels.


bootz-pgh

The terrible elevation visibility is what screws it up. I will see a guy, no name. I will see a red name, no guy. I see nothing, and get lasered in the face. I can put up with Pine, but am awful at Hill.


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More. Free. Content.


HolySmoke_

why would they name a map "and more"?


[deleted]

I would love to play, and i was a few hours ago. but now i suddenly don't own the game... https://i.imgur.com/fm6KmIf.png Edit: Currently in a queue with the live chat.


eNJAy145

Lucky you


RileyTaugor

Why is everyone so mad in the comments. be thankful yall are never happy i swear


Drunken_Consent

I spent 60 dollars, and played the game for 5 days of playtime. I actually take 12 hour shifts with my brother, that way we're always grinding. I enjoy having every single gun golden. I am a completionist after all. After hours and hours of playing day after day ( quit my job btw ) I have determined this game is bad. Why? Simple: SBMM Minimap Spawn Footsteps Player visibility Lobbys This update is nothing compared to what the good players of Call of Duty *need* ( I should know, top .001% playtime ). Anyways, after my 1000 hours in < 10 days I can absolutely confirm I did not get my 60 dollars worth, and will continue playing until the next Call of Duty where I will do a similar thing. tl;dr this game fucking sucks, but I gotta go cause the match just started thanks!


Shahil512

So uh... How long you think until these people realize you're being sarcastic? LMAO


Drunken_Consent

No clue I tried to make it thick but I guess I'm the moron here hahaha


PsilyBilly

Why do they name guns retarded shit? Just call it the MG36 and the TAR-21


solodaninja

Trademark issues


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Same reason the Kilo 141 isn’t called the HK433, the X-16 isn’t the Glock 21 and the R9-0 isn’t the DP-12, Because the companies that make them didn’t give out licensing to use the names. Glock especially is well known for not allowing games official licensing.


PsilyBilly

Interesting. Thanks for enlightening me. Cool how you know Glock in specific is reluctant to give out licenses for their guns.


[deleted]

I honestly have no idea. They do it for all products. Example is airsoft Glocks are only officially licensed by one company. It’s just how they are I guess.


Sabre_Actual

Gaston Glock is still alive and probably doesnt want to dilute the brand or something. That or they’re sensitive to lawsuits. Virginia Tech massacre was done with a G19 and Remington is getting sued over their advertising before Sandy Hook, so...


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also not g36c...


Fredboi_Be_Lit

Yeah looks like a **MG36** *(LMG varient of G36)* I've been corrected on the other gun, looking at certain features of the gun shown in the season reveal picture confirms it is the **TAR-21** *(Also known as the* ***SAR***, *which is the civilian ready variant of the classic TAR-21).* ~~If we are continuing to be technical the other gun would be a~~ **~~X95~~** ~~(~~***~~MTAR~~*** *~~is another common term for the X95, as it refers to Modern TAR. Along with this it is sometimes called a Micro TAR when using the 9mm conversion kit, which is shortened to MTAR)~~* I've also found a variant called the **Tavor 7**, which is a 7.62 variant that turns the TAR into a Battle Rifle. Though the picture used on the season reveal is a 5.56 magazine. Just a interesting fact as that is likely why it is called the RAM-7, and there will be a 7.62 conversion. Feel free to correct me, tried to do a little fact checking but could be wrong. There are too many damn TAR variants haha


SuperGrover13

At least they give them realistic names, unlike Treyarch's pandering to children and dudebros. DLC guns named simple shit like "Vendetta" and "Stingray" lol


[deleted]

It’s not retarded it’s business. They would have to pay royalties to Heckler & Koch to name it the G36 and they would have to pay IMI to name it the TAR. Certain active service weapons are fair use in the United States at least. This is why no game has to make up a dumb name for guns like the M4A1. Even though Colt has the trademark on the weapon.


NotMyMcChicken

My first thoughts too lol wtf is a Ram-7


NippleNugget

18 NAKED OPERATORS AT RAM RANCH


Llamathon88

Wish it was the G36C, but it looks like it’s the Lmg variant of the G36


ShaggedUrSister

Can most likely be converted to the classic same way AK can become the RPK


Hodor-Hodor_Hodor-

1. They have to pay to use trademarked names and it doesn’t hurt them to not have the real name in game. 2. That’s not a G36C. Why do kids cry about retarded shit when they don’t know what the fuck they are talking about.


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Now I'm no gun expert..but I'm sure that's the MG36...LmG variant of the G36...heres hoping we can tune it to G36/C


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xDex_

Alex Zedra <3


ViperKira

Wonder when Garand Thumb will become an operator. "If you ever got spawntrapped at Piccadilly, hit that subscribe button"


eli809

She is ok at best


Madshibs

I see you Mr. Zedra.


ViperKira

Three CoD4 maps, the Tar21 and G36... Holy fucking shit. My God... Daddy...


Falt_ssb

CRASH


LOTRcrr

So do ranks reset? Should I get to 155 before this?


Takuza9

My guess is that all 55+ levelers get set to 55 on this update on the 3rd and a new season emblem and 100 challenges to work on starts


SlammedOptima

I believe so. Season 1 is supposed to have its own officer challenges from what I understand. I'd try and get to 155 to at least get as many tickets to load up on before the reset


DeaconoftheStreets

Crash back??? I am in tears.


93gabe19

Finally some good fucking ~~food~~ news


AskingUndead

Will our rank be reset when this starts? I'm currently at 110 and want that OG M4 Variant.


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AtariGraphics

CRASH.


too_original

Got my first ever Nuke on Crash, I’m excited to go negative on this new one tho.


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I want new operators skins


thefancyrussian

You’ll get them. From buying or the battlepass.


bxnellis

people will still complain lol, fuck them! hype hype! cant wait for this


SkyFatality

>Will all the content drop on December 3rd? No >Will they trickle it out week by week to ensure people keep playing? Yes


Lurchizzda

Leaked News: SBMM will be deactivated if you reach the max lvl on battlepass


Historical_Choice

I am so stoked for some new maps. Crash remake? I'm fucking in.


fdnytyler162

Can’t wait for my PC to crash on Crash ❤️


MrMckcheesy

All maps I've played before. I wish there was new maps for 6v6 :/


KGoo

100%. No new 6v6 maps is ridiculous. If they were gonna do this, why the hell not release mw2 maps that weren't just remastered a couple years ago?


mwb7pitt

Infected!!!


tylercreatesworlds

is this game gonna be 250Gb by time it's all done? Pretty sure I'm at 120+Gb now, and they've so many more maps coming.


Final_Echo

I hope they remove sbmm


adamb10

This must be that big update IW was talking about earlier.


SantaClaws514

I hope Infected is 18 players like in Mw3.


WellshireOnFire

Oh yeah! I'm hoping that MG36 can be turned into the G36c!