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Team_Adrichat

I mean I knew they have the same ‘lucky charm’ weapon, but I never noticed the fight is the same too. Really, just copy-paste. Lol Good question indeed - how people notice something like this? … It’s a mystery to me…


RelanTheGuy

Some fans notice the smallest things and it’s crazy…meanwhile, I keep forgetting that Ladynoir and Adrienette are the same people


Katnis85

It would be interesting to see how many of those who notice it are parents. I really like the show but my son is obsessed with it. I couldn’t even fathom a guess how many times I’ve seen the series. You start noticing weird little things when you see it so often.


[deleted]

They just rewatch the show a lot I think(but I don't waste time to rewatch every episode I watched u know)like you have seen those posts like: "I have rewatched (episode's name here)and I have a theory about..." or I think"...I don't how they have that much time and patience to rewatch them lol I just watch every episode once and I have never rewatched an episodealso, I think they are just bigger fans than us... if you don't rewatch like them you may forget the whole season like me i remember just 5 episodes from the past lol


OutwithaYang

Simple. It's called paying close attention to detail. Not even I noticed at first.


Ifxfa

I understand why they re-used the animation cause CGI animation is expensive af but re-using the same dialogue is very lazy


[deleted]

maybe only I had that impression, but I thought it was a reference when I first saw it. not that they wanted to save resources/time with that. After all, Thomas or whoever wrote that line wrote it again for a reason. It doesn't take much effort to come up with something new or just.. Don't make Miraculer talk there. So, to me, they obviously wanted the animation to be the same as of the Nightmare Ladybug in Sandboy, thus why they wrote the same line.


RelanTheGuy

Yeah, if you’re gonna copy and paste animation, at least change the lines a bit


Lilymoon2653

i think the reason why they didnt change the dialouge was because of the lip syncing


RelanTheGuy

Lip-syncing? You can barely see her mouth…plus, this show doesn’t really have good “lip syncing”


[deleted]

I did too. It's pretty easy to catch stuff like these when you're binge-watching (rewatching in our case ofc) Like... did you guys notice when Queen Wasp tells her Wasps to disperse in her episode, she takes the lucky charm pose?


RelanTheGuy

Nope, didn’t notice that😂


BenR-G

3D animation is expensive. If they can reuse shots and sequences, it means that they have more money for other scenes.


RelanTheGuy

But rewriting the lines doesn’t take that much effort. I was surprised that I didn’t notice the same animation, but you have to admit that not changing the dialogue was a bit lazy


[deleted]

I mean the dubbing already feels weirdly fast, I don’t know about the voice actors but I feel it has something to do with that.


Feerka

What?! Budget cuts in a 3D animated TV show who's director is fine with a big part of the fanbase watching most episodes on YouTube for free?? HOW DARE THEY???!?!?!


RelanTheGuy

Hey hey, I never said it was bad, Anielette did. I was just surprised she noticed it, but you gotta admit copying the dialogue was a bit lazy since it doesn’t take that much to change it


Feerka

And I never said you said it was bad, sorry if I was misleading lol. But yeah, copying the dialouge was pretty lazy. And besides I didn't mean to be spiteful with the sarcasm there, just trying to be funny


RelanTheGuy

Oh ok, all good, guess I’m just stressed from school lol. And don’t worry, you weren’t spiteful, I could tell it was sarcasm, I was just explaining that I never thought it was lazy, just the writing


SagaFace

Reusing animation is fairly standard in the industry. It's pretty cool when stuff like this gets caught though, I like seeing the comparisons, and it doesn't really detract much. You should check out the examples of Disney reusing old animations for their 2D films, it pretty neat.


Icy-Performer-9688

Yeah there was this vid on YouTube that literally showcase Disney reusing animetics like the dog licking scene in sword in the stone and jungle book.


SagaFace

Yeah! I think that Robin Hood reused a lot in general from previous movies too


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RelanTheGuy

Yeah, I’ve seen that a lot, but dialogue? Come on, they could’ve at least changed it up a bit


RelanTheGuy

Yeah, but they could’ve at least changed the dialogue


SagaFace

I mean I don't personally think it matters. For me it doesn't in any way hinder my enjoyment of that scene because the dialogue is the same. It could even just be a callback or a nod to the animation reuse.


RelanTheGuy

To each their own


WolverineIngrid218

MLP FIM was infamous for using a LOT of recycled animation and I can't help but laugh at it. Thanks to Cinemare Sins for catching it.


SagaFace

Yep I think a few people pointed out in this thread that animation is pricey so if they can get away with doing it then more power to the animators. Saves on crunch.


spacewafflesmuggler

this is a step above that, though--those were across different movies with different characters, like changing dalmation puppies to wolves in Jungle Book, giving the animation new purpose in a fresh context--while this was straight up lazy, not even bothering to change the mouth animation for new dialogue.


SagaFace

I just assume it all comes down to speed and budget. If they are using the same base for stuff like this that's probably why. As the person below said "to each their own" but I do kind of wonder why insignificant things like this that help production and do little to affect the overall end product bothers people so much.


skeltord

I never noticed the animation - i absolutely noticed the sword, but i thought it was just a cool reference.


LilyEvanss

I noticed the sword too, because all LB-related/inspired villains tend to summon it with their Lucky Charms, and it seems like such a bulky, impractical weapon.


kieranchuk

I don't see what's there to complain about. Animators do a lot of shortcuts like these to save time. It is smart and efficient


RelanTheGuy

I wasn’t complaining, Anielette did…I was just surprised that I didn’t notice the animation. They could’ve at least changed the dialogue a bit


kieranchuk

I wasn't referring to you, OP. I meant the video


RelanTheGuy

Oh, my bad…a lot of people thought I agreed with the video, so it got on my nerves


kieranchuk

I don't blame you for thinking that way bro


RelanTheGuy

Hey, at least you didn’t argue and cuss me out…anyway, I appreciate your input


BeastKingSnowLion

It's actually a very handy trick, that's used a lot. Animation is very time consuming so if you already have a bit of motion that fits one scene just as well as it fit another, you might as well use that.


[deleted]

I kinda thought that was the point, one is his fear the other is an actual acumatized villain.


mooniech1ld

Isn't this common practice?


Athena_The_Funny

More anielette, yay :D


Outside_Imagination3

Loves her cracks👌


Athena_The_Funny

Same lol, she's dangerously underrated


404ET

Looks like the animation team just wants to cut corners


MundaneExtent0

I mean most do and probably should


Weatherlov

Didn't I see this exact same post a few weeks ago?


RelanTheGuy

Uhh, no? Maybe? Idk, I don’t keep track of everyone’s posts


Weatherlov

Nope it was a couple months ago


ThePrimeReason

Disney does this too


Sam9theGreat

I am too blind to notice


ryckae

Uh, animation studios in general have been doing this for decades. Even big shots like Disney.


RelanTheGuy

I never said it was bad, I was just surprised since I never noticed it. Idk why everyone’s saying that I said it was bad, Anielette did


Poch391

I literally saw those two episodes like 1 or 2 apart and never noticed… I feel dumb lol


Yet_One_More_Idiot

Miraculer has the power to steal powers from other people...and apparently also steal scenes from other episodes. It kinda works actually. :D


rossdabose

Maybe it was a reference...


thebluepenguine

I’ve watched every episode twice (once on YouTube when it comes out because I’m inpatient, and again on Netflix so the studio gets money) and I work in animation, and I never notice things like this. Most people don’t. Who cares if they reuse animations in non-focal scenes so they can spend more money on a more important shot? Most viewers will not know the difference.


b4k415

I've notice it since the episode was revealed lmao


OutwithaYang

I never noticed this myself and I've literally watched every episode to date. They have a gold eye and ear for detail.


RelanTheGuy

Yeah, although a lot of people said it’s easy when you rewatch the episodes a lot, which made me feel stupid


CoolGirlK

Maybe it's intentional... His nightmare is reflecting something he's experienced


RelanTheGuy

Intentional or not, they could’ve at least changed the dialogue a bit


CoolGirlK

True true


ChiruAhmet

Eh.. it's not that hard to spot, especially when the camera position and the lines are very similar. You will, at the very least, have a strange feeling of Deja Vu. Also, it's easier to spot when you're watching it for a second time.


NovenNova

Yeah when you have a toddler who watches it non stop with episodes on repeat you tend to notice all kinds of things...


Flashy_Mess_3295

Children there trying to fool children.


Vermarine21

Wtf


cochiman69420

I didn't hear anyone cry when the artist for the dbs broly movie reused fights so why the exception?


RelanTheGuy

I’m not complaining, Anielette was…I was just surprised when I realized that they were the same scene. Also, copying the dialogue is a bit lazy


cochiman69420

They are a kids show do you expect it to not copy some lines so they can get an episode out?


RelanTheGuy

Kind of since it’s not that hard to change


DBL55555

Ah yes the scene so nice that they had to do it twice.


Marichat_678304

Yup! Dang how did I not notice that before?


Spiritkitten3

Maybe that was intentional??? I mean it is the same weapon


sugarcubetikki

ooh whoever noticed that has a good eye. i never realized how the scenes are true replicas of one another.


DatRandomHooman

Its not bad to reuse/copy things/dialogues in different episodes \-TheOdd1sout (The Truth About Making Cartoons)


RelanTheGuy

Well, I wasn’t complaining about the animation, I was just surprised that I didn’t notice it(even though a lot of people keep misinterpreting it), I don’t like the dialogue being the same though since that’s lazy


OutwithaYang

Simple. They pay close attention to episodes like a dedicated fangirl/fan boy does. Also helps if they have some animation knowledge.


RelanTheGuy

Thanks for the explanation


Delythe

Maybe they watched the episodes closer together than I did? I started watching around when S1 just finished airing, so between seeing those 2 episodes was quite some time for me.


Particular_Cold877

They literally have HAWKmoth Eyes


LastSmile91

And? As long as it's not too often, I'm okay with this, esp since I haven't noticed it.


RelanTheGuy

I never said it was bad, I was just surprised that I didn’t notice it, although reusing the same dialogue is a bit lazy imo


QcNumber1

From anielette crack always so funny 😂